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The Americans thought that they must be suicidal
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They = Humans? Other animals?

Location relevant?
Asia?
N. America?
S. America?
Australia
Europe?
Africa?
Antarctica?
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They = Humans? YES Other animals?

Location relevant? YESish
Asia?
N. America?
S. America?
Australia
Europe? YES
Africa?
Antarctica?
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UK?
France?
Germany?
Italy?
Spain?
Poland?
Portugal?
Norway?
Sweden?
Republic of Ireland?
Finland?
Denmark?
B & H?
Greece?
Austria?
Hungary?
Romania?
Belarus?
Latvia?
Lithuania?
Other?
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UK? YES
France?
Germany?
Italy?
Spain?
Poland?
Portugal?
Norway?
Sweden?
Republic of Ireland?
Finland?
Denmark?
B & H?
Greece?
Austria?
Hungary?
Romania?
Belarus?
Latvia?
Lithuania?
Other?
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England?
Scotland?
N. Ireland?
Wales?
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England? YES
Scotland?
N. Ireland?
Wales?
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Is this anything to do with differences between the meanings of certain words in England and America? Or to do with how some things have different names in these two countries?
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Does it have anything to do with war?

Era relevant?
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Is this anything to do with differences between the meanings of certain words in England and America? YESish Or to do with how some things have different names in these two countries? NO

Does it have anything to do with war? NO

Era relevant? YESish
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Is there a word which is spelt the same but means different things depending on your nationality? Or a word pronounced the same but spelt differently? Or a phrase/saying? Is there some colloquial English expression which to an American would seem to be referring to suicide?
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Did the Americans feel threatened by them?

Was this word/phrase/saying recently invented?

Era:
21st century?
20th?
19?
18?
Before?
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Did the Americans feel threatened by them? NO

Was this word/phrase/saying recently invented? NO

Era:
21st century?
20th? YES
19?
18?
Before?
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I think you missed my post at 3:23...
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Is there a word which is spelt the same but means different things depending on your nationality? NO Or a word pronounced the same but spelt differently? NO Or a phrase/saying? YES Is there some colloquial English expression which to an American would seem to be referring to suicide? Not exactly
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Would the phrase refer directly to a means of suicide? If so:
Jumping off something?
Poison?
Throwing oneself in front of a vehicle?
Suffocation?
Shooting oneself?
Or does it refer to doing something dangerous?
Is this a common phrase? Does it contain a word which could have two diffferent meanings?
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Would the phrase refer directly to a means of suicide? NO If so:
Jumping off something?
Poison?
Throwing oneself in front of a vehicle?
Suffocation?
Shooting oneself?
Or does it refer to doing something dangerous? Depends
Is this a common phrase? YES Does it contain a word which could have two diffferent meanings? YES
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Is it a common phrase in use in England? In America?
Is the word with two meanings one that would mean something different to English people than to Americans? (eg the word pants means trousers in America but underwear in England)
Or would it have two different meanings without the difference between American and English?
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Is it a common phrase in use in England? YES In America? YES
Is the word with two meanings one that would mean something different to English people than to Americans? YESish (eg the word pants means trousers in America but underwear in England)
Or would it have two different meanings without the difference between American and English? NO
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HINT : Think of a song ...
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Oh dear, all the possible phrases I can think of are rude ones, I'll try and delay those until I get desperate for questions to ask!

Is the phrase a song title? A line from a song? Anything to do with national anthems?
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Is the phrase a song title? NO A line from a song? YES Anything to do with national anthems? NO
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So....the song is from the twentieth century too??
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So....the song is from the twentieth century too?? YES
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Is the song written by someone British? And performed? Was it a chart hit in the UK? and the US?
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Folk song? Hymn? Christmas Carol? Pop song? Rock? Rap? Other?
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Does 'they' of the puzzle statement, refer to a band? For some reason I'm thinking of the Rolling Stones?
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Is the song written by someone British? YES And performed? YES Was it a chart hit in the UK? YES and the US? YES

Folk song? Hymn? Christmas Carol? Pop song? Rock? Rap? Other? It's a pop song

Does 'they' of the puzzle statement, refer to a band? YES For some reason I'm thinking of the Rolling Stones? ..but not they
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Decade this song was a hit: 50's? 60's? 70's? 80's? 90's?
Beatles? The Who? Or is the song itself more famous than the actual band?
Do you mean 'suicidal' in the literal sense? Professional/musical suicide? Or more colloquially, ie. 'they must be mad'?
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Decade this song was a hit: 50's? 60's? 70's? 80's? YES 90's?
Beatles? NO The Who? NO Or is the song itself more famous than the actual band? YES
Do you mean 'suicidal' in the literal sense? YESish Professional/musical suicide? NO Or more colloquially, ie. 'they must be mad'? NO
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Love song? Comedy song? Ballad? Rock song? Sung by an all-male band? An all-female band? A duo? Trio? Four-piece? Five-piece?
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Were they a one-hit wonder? Was this a big hit? Does the line we're looking for feature in the chorus? Did Americans actually believe the song was about suicide? Was it considered controversial?
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Love song? NO Comedy song? NO Ballad? NO Rock song? NO Sung by an all-male band? YES An all-female band? A duo? Trio? Four-piece? Five-piece? NONE of these

Were they a one-hit wonder? I think so, but not 100% sure ... Was this a big hit? YES Does the line we're looking for feature in the chorus? YES Did Americans actually believe the song was about suicide? NO Was it considered controversial? NO
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So, a 6-piece band? 7? 8? 9? More??? A human band or something more akin to the Muppets etc.?

The 'suicidal' thing... was it more along the lines of, the lyric seemed to be asking for trouble? As in, 'they shouldn't say that, they'll get lynched!' or similar?
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So, a 6-piece band? 7? YES 8? 9? More??? A human band YES or something more akin to the Muppets etc.?

The 'suicidal' thing... was it more along the lines of, the lyric seemed to be asking for trouble? As in, 'they shouldn't say that, they'll get lynched!' or similar? NO
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Are we talking about America as a whole (who heard the song)? Or a more specific group of people?

Was the lyric interpreted as particularly miserable? Like wanting to be dead?

You said it was a pop song, could it fall into another category? A party song? A dance song?
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Are we talking about America as a whole (who heard the song)? Or a more specific group of people? Ehh ... not really either ... I'm just talking about a generic group of Americans

Was the lyric interpreted as particularly miserable? Like wanting to be dead? Neither, this is actually a very upbeat, happy song !

You said it was a pop song, could it fall into another category? A party song? Perhaps A dance song? Mabye, don't really picture it as such, but ...
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Does the band still exist or is it disbanded?
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Was the band itself started in the 80s or bbefore?
70s
60s
50s
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Does the band still exist or is it disbanded? It still exists

Was the band itself started in the 80s or bbefore? 70s
70s
60s
50s
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Does the name of the band consist of one word? Two words? three words? four words? more words?

Does the name of the song consist of one word? Two words? three words? four words? more words?
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Was it ABC? Shoot that poison arrow through my heart?
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Does the name of the band consist of one word? YES Two words? three words? four words? more words?

Does the name of the song consist of one word? Two words? YES three words? four words? more words?

Was it ABC? NO Shoot that poison arrow through my heart? NO
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I'm a real 80's music buff so this puzzle interests me greatly

Can i just confirm we are looking for a All Male band with 7 memebers formed in the 70's who were one hit wonders in the 80's and who are still together today. The band is british has a one word title and the song has two words in it. Is that all correct?

Was the hit in 1980? 81? 82? 83? 84? 85? 86? 87? 88? 89?
Does the band's name consist of a group of letters that don't spell a word such as OMD , ELO etc?
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I'm a real 80's music buff so this puzzle interests me greatly Moi aussi!

Can i just confirm we are looking for a All Male band with 7 memebers formed in the 70's who were one hit wonders in the 80's and who are still together today. The band is british has a one word title and the song has two words in it. Is that all correct? YES

Was the hit in 1980? 81? 82? 83? 84? 85? 86? 87? 88? 89? 1982
Does the band's name consist of a group of letters that don't spell a word such as OMD , ELO etc? NO
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How about Madness? (They tick all the boxes: 7 piece, one word, all male, big in 82, still touring, and they fit the title. Not sure about the one-hit wonder thing, though.)
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Another unlikely guess: what about

'Our house, in the middle of our street'?

Not sure about US idiom here, but to build a house literally in the middle of a street would be a pretty daft thing to do.
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Darn I bet you have it. In fact I think Our House was the only big hit madness had in the US or Canada.
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How about Madness? YES ! (They tick all the boxes: 7 piece, one word, all male, big in 82, still touring, and they fit the title. Not sure about the one-hit wonder thing, though.)

Another unlikely guess: what about

'Our house, in the middle of our street'? YES !

Not sure about US idiom here, but to build a house literally in the middle of a street would be a pretty daft thing to do. That it would, in the US the idiom for the location of a building is 'on the street' whereas 'in the street' means atop the road itself
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SPOILER : When I was quite young, I lived in the USA, where many of my friends who heard the song line 'our house ... in the middle of our street' by Madness thought (semi-jokingly), "Oh my ... building a house in the middle of the street (American idiom) ... that's suicidal !!!" not realising the idiom difference between American English and the British English of the song.
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Heheh ... come to think of it, here in the UK we wouldn't normally say "in the middle of the street" either, unless it was actually, well ... in the middle of the street. Yet in 20+ years that lyric has never struck me as particularly odd.

I love transatlantic differences. A rich seam for puzzles.

(I nearly guessed "Baggy Trousers" at first. "Loose fitting pants" just wouldn't be the same.)
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Incidentally, I grew up very near this: a house standing literally in the middle of a motorway. The owner refused to move out, so they just built around him. It has become something of a tourist attraction.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tpreece01/27102529/
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Nice puzzle . More 80's music puzzles please!!!

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