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Loneliness caused it. (With the right questions, this could be over quickly.)
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Did domeone actually physically lose his head ?
French Revolution relevant ?
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Did domeone actually physically lose his head ?Yes
French Revolution relevant ?No
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So did loneliness cause him to lose his head? Did he lose his head 'officially', ie was he legally sentenced to death by beheading?
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Was the beheading:

carried out by a government?
by another organization?
by an individual?

a man-made accident?
an act of nature?
a deliberate act of man?

Was loneliness the cause because:
he could not get an alibi?
there was no one to defend him?
it was against social norm?
it was against someone's interest?
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So did loneliness cause him to lose his head?Yes Did he lose his head 'officially', ie was he legally sentenced to death by beheading?No


Was the beheading:

carried out by a government? No

by another organization? No
by an individual?Yes

a man-made accident? No
an act of nature? No
a deliberate act of man? Yes

Was loneliness the cause because:
he could not get an alibi?
there was no one to defend him?
it was against social norm?
it was against someone's interest?
It was not this person who was lonely.
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The murderer was lonely, so he beheaded someone, right?

Was victim a human?
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The murderer was lonely, so he beheaded someone, right?No

Was victim a human?Yes
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HINT:Guillotine is not relevant. This is a true story.
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Is anyone else relevant? If so, how many people? Was it one of these who was lonely?
Is everyone involved in this puzzle human? (we've asked about the victim, but not about the murderer or any of the other involved people)
Do we need to know exactly how he was beheaded?
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Is anyone else relevant?Yes If so, how many people?2 other people Was it one of these who was lonely?Yes
Is everyone involved in this puzzle human?Yes (we've asked about the victim, but not about the murderer or any of the other involved people)
Do we need to know exactly how he was beheaded?No but if you want to know, it was an axe.
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Did the two other people know the murderer? The victim? Each other? Were they related? Friends?
Did the victim know the murderer?
Was the motive for the murder:
Financial?
Jealousy?
Anger?
Revenge?
Insanity?
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Did the two other people know the murderer?Yes The victim?Yes Each other?Yes Were they related?Yes Friends? Yes
Did the victim know the murderer? Yes
Was the motive for the murder:
Financial?
Jealousy?
Anger? Yes
Revenge? Yes
Insanity?Yes

By the way, I'm sorry if anyone is confused but there are only three people in this puzzle:
1)Murderer
2)Victim
3Third Person
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Right, so there are three friends: A,the murderer, B, the victim and C, another friend. Are their genders relevant? If so:
A:M?F?
B:M/F?
C:M/F?
C is lonely, and this somehow leads to A (who is insane) chopping off B's head from anger and revenge. Right?
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Right, so there are three friends: A,the murderer, B, the victim and C, another friend. Are their genders relevant?Very Relevant If so:
A:M?F? Male
B:M/F? Male
C:M/F? Female
C is lonely, and this somehow leads to A (who is insane)he goes insane chopping off B's head from anger and revenge.Yes Right?Right
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Were A or B lovers of C at any time? If so, A? B? are either of them still with her at the time of the murder? Does A believe that C and B are lovers? Or have been lovers? Does the victim go to comfort C because she is lonely? Is she lonely because one of the men has just left her?
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Were A or B lovers of C at any time?Yes If so, A? B? are either of them still with her at the time of the murder?Both Does A believe that C and B are lovers?Yes Or have been lovers? Does the victim go to comfort C because she is lonely?Yes Is she lonely because one of the men has just left her?
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So C is with both men? Do they know that she has another boyfriend? Does A come round to C's house and see her with B (who is comforting her as she feels lonely), realise she is cheating on him and kill her other lover out of anger?
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So C is with both men?Yes Do they know that she has another boyfriend?A is her husband Does A come round to C's house and see her with B (who is comforting her as she feels lonely), realise she is cheating on him and kill her other lover out of anger?No
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Do A and B know about each other? Is C lonely just because A is insane? or because he's not around, ie in an asylum, travelling, etc?
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Do A and B know about each other?Yes Is C lonely just because A is insane?He's not insane at the time and when I say insane I don't mean the typical insanity. or because he's not around,Yes ie in an asylum,He's not that insane travelling,In a way. etc?

Just for the sake of reducing FAs, let's assume he's not insane.
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does A only find out about B on the day of the murder? does As job matter?

just to be clear, C is lonely because her husband A is often away, so she has an affair with B, then when A finds out he goes mad and chops off Bs head with an axe?

do we need more details on the affair? how A found out? did he come home unexpectedly?
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Just to clarify my first question. You say that A and B know about each other. But do they know about each other as C's husband/lover?
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does A only find out about B on the day of the murder?No does As job matter?Yes

just to be clear, C is lonely because her husband A is often away, so she has an affair with B, then when A finds out he goes mad and chops off Bs head with an axe? Yes. Correct.

do we need more details on the affair?Slightly how A found out?Yes did he come home unexpectedly?No
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Just to clarify my first question. You say that A and B know about each other. But do they know about each other as C's husband/lover?Yes
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Do we need to find out more about A's 'in-a-way' travelling?

Is it relevant how long it took from A found out about C having an affair with B to A killing B?
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Do we need to find out more about A's 'in-a-way' travelling? Yes

Is it relevant how long it took from A found out about C having an affair with B to A killing B?Yes
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A's travelling:
Does he travel through his work? is he trekking? does he go away for long stretches at a time? relevant where he goes?

Time frame;
less than one month?
1-3 months?
3-6 months?
6-12 months?
more than a year?
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A's travelling: Not all the time but yes.
Does he travel through his work?Yes is he trekking?No does he go away for long stretches at a time?Yes relevant where he goes? Yes

Time frame;
less than one month?
1-3 months?
3-6 months?
6-12 months?
more than a year?Can be any actually
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Does he go to the same place every time he travels? Relevant what his job is?
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Does he go to the same place every time he travels?Depends on the country's stand Relevant what his job is?Well, just know that she's lonely and you'll be fine.
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between A finding out and killing B is there less than a day? less than a week? less than a month? less than a year?
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So A goes travelling on irregular basis through his job. He might be away for a few days or more than a year. But there is nothing relevant about his job or length of time he's absent, just to know his wife gets lonely. Right? Or is there something else to discover?

Is it relevant what means of transport he uses when he travels?

How he found out;
he was told?
he came home unexpectantly?
he found something that belonged to B somewhere "privat"?
he saw the lover leaving the house?
he found a mail/sms?
he found a love note?
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between A finding out and killing B is there less than a day?This less than a week? less than a month? less than a year?

So A goes travelling on irregular basis through his job. He might be away for a few days or more than a year. But there is nothing relevant about his job or length of time he's absent, just to know his wife gets lonely.Yes Right? Or is there something else to discover?Not really

Is it relevant what means of transport he uses when he travels? No

How he found out;
he was told? Yes
he came home unexpectantly?
he found something that belonged to B somewhere "privat"? In a horribly roundabout way....but beware, this might lead to FAs.
he saw the lover leaving the house?
he found a mail/sms?
he found a love note?
Nothing else
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Is it relevant who told him? relevant if they told him face to face or not?

Did he find something belonging to B?
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Is it relevant who told him?Yes relevant if they told him face to face or not? Yes

Did he find something belonging to B?He was told about that too
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Did someone else find something belonging to B?

Was A told face to face? If not, over the phone? fax? text? mail? other?

The one that told A;
one of the children?
a member of A's family?
of C's family?
one of their friends?
a stranger?
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Did someone else find something belonging to B?C did

Was A told face to face?Yes If not, over the phone? fax? text? mail? other?

The one that told A;
one of the children?FA
a member of A's family? Yes
of C's family?
one of their friends?
a strangerNo
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so C found something belonging to B? did she assume it was her husbands? did she give it to him? did he then realise she must have been with another man? did she confess to him?
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so C found something belonging to B?Well....in a way did she assume it was her husbands?No did she give it to him?No she told him it was B's did he then realise she must have been with another man?Yes did she confess to him?Yes
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Did they have children? If so, relevant?

When she told A what she had found, did she know that her husband would understand she had an affair with B?

Just to clarify regarding who told him about the affair. Did C (I know she told about the thing she "found", but did she tell him directly that she had a affair)? or someone else in A's family?
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Did they have children? If so, relevant? A & C? No. B & C? Yes> Relevant

When she told A what she had found, did she know that her husband would understand she had an affair with B?Yes, though 'found' isn't the best word.

Just to clarify regarding who told him about the affair. Did C (I know she told about the thing she "found", but did she tell him directly that she had a affair)?Yes or someone else in A's family?No
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Is C pregnant with B's child? Is A unable to get C pregnant?
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Is C pregnant with B's child?Yes Is A unable to get C pregnant?No
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Did B get C pregnant when A was away? and A knows that the baby cannot be his?
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Did B get C pregnant when A was away?Yes. and A knows that the baby cannot be his?Yes, this about sums it up.

********SPOILER********
A was in the military and had to go to Germany. B was his friend. The 'something' that belonged to B was the foetus growing in C's uterus. When she realised that she was pregnant, she knew that her husband would eventually find out and also realise that the baby couldn't have been his. Thus, she decided to confess to A and when she was in the hospital, A ran away to find B, who was speaking to C from a telephone booth. When he eventually found B, he chopped of his head with an axe he had brought, and when he went to the hospital, he took the head with him and shoved it into the face of his crying wife.
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