| Author | Message | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 781 Registered: 3-2006 |
We all agreed not to aim at the target. | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 282 Registered: 4-2007 |
We=humans? Adults? Genders relevant? Were you shooting something? A gun? Bow and arrow? Would something bad have happened if you had aimed at the target? Was the target paintd on somewhere that it would have been unwise to hit? Was this a traditional target, in the sense of something that you are meant to aim for? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 782 Registered: 3-2006 |
We=humans? yes Adults? yes Genders relevant? Yes-ish: to save you asking, we were all male. Still are, as far as I know. Were you shooting something? no A gun? no Bow and arrow? no Would something bad have happened if you had aimed at the target? yes Was the target paintd on somewhere that it would have been unwise to hit? good thinking, but no Was this a traditional target, in the sense of something that you are meant to aim for? yes | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 969 Registered: 8-2006 |
Was the target on a shooting range? Bullseyes relevant? Was a target an animal or something? endangered? Oh, and one more thing, Would it only be unwise to HIT the target or onlt to aim at it? | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 107 Registered: 4-2007 |
Were you at the airport? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 786 Registered: 3-2006 |
Was the target on a shooting range? no Bullseyes relevant? no, the title is a vaguely cryptic affair that probably won't help Was a target an animal no or something? endangered? no Oh, and one more thing, Would it only be unwise to HIT the target or onlt to aim at it? sorry, my mistake: a bad thing would happen only if the target was hit. Were you at the airport? no | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 359 Registered: 1-2007 |
was the target an objective at work ? financial target? sales? something similar? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 788 Registered: 3-2006 |
was the target an objective at work ? financial target? sales? something similar? nothing like this | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 438 Registered: 9-2003 |
would the bad thing happen to the person who hit it? or to anyway in a certain radius? would the hit object cause the damage? is the target alive? something natural? made from a specific material? relevant? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 791 Registered: 3-2006 |
would the bad thing happen to the person who hit it? Not really or to anyway in a certain radius? Hmm ... not really. It would probably affect everyone in the scenario to some degree or other would the hit object cause the damage? yes is the target alive? no something natural? no made from a specific material? yes: usually one specific material relevant? it has nothing to do with the reason we agreed not to aim at it, no | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 440 Registered: 9-2003 |
would it cause damage by breaking up into pieces? do you not want to hit it out of fear of being hurt? or for another reason? do you want to preserve it? is it made from metal? plastic? rubber? paper? glass? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 794 Registered: 3-2006 |
would it cause damage by breaking up into pieces? no, the target would remain intact do you not want to hit it out of fear of being hurt? not this or for another reason? this do you want to preserve it? not this is it made from metal? plastic? rubber? paper? glass? the target is not made from any of these | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 293 Registered: 4-2007 |
Were you throwing something? Would the target have been physically hit if you had aimed at it (and not missed)? Was there something specific about your circumstances that meant it was unwise just then to hit the target? Would the bad consequences that occurred if the target was hit always occur if it was hit, or just at that time? Was the target painted on somewhere? Was it designed to be aimed at? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 795 Registered: 3-2006 |
Were you throwing something? yes-ish Would the target have been physically hit if you had aimed at it (and not missed)? it would, yes Was there something specific about your circumstances that meant it was unwise just then to hit the target? yes Would the bad consequences that occurred if the target was hit always occur if it was hit, or just at that time? just at that time, during those circumstances. Targets of this kind are often hit, with none of the same consequences Was the target painted on somewhere? no Was it designed to be aimed at? yes | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 135 Registered: 4-2007 |
was the target attached to something or was it a stand-alone target? total guess: don't know if this is only an American thing, but was the target part of a dunking booth, perhaps--and you were afraid of the person who would get soaked if you had hit the target? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 796 Registered: 3-2006 |
was the target attached to something yes, in the broadest sense of "something" or was it a stand-alone target? total guess: don't know if this is only an American thing, but was the target part of a dunking booth, perhaps--and you were afraid of the person who would get soaked if you had hit the target? no, but a nice idea | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 454 Registered: 9-2003 |
was the target made from stone? wood? some kind of cloth/fabric? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 798 Registered: 3-2006 |
was the target made from stone? wood? this one some kind of cloth/fabric? | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 420 Registered: 11-2003 |
Paintball relevant? If not, any other type of sport? | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 456 Registered: 9-2003 |
was there anything relevant close to the target? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 804 Registered: 3-2006 |
Paintball relevant? Thankfully not. Good thinking, though. I remember playing this, and being told not to aim at the head, because it wouldn't count. It still didn't stop people aiming straight at my head. If not, any other type of sport? yes was there anything relevant close to the target? indeed there was | ||
| Foulglory (Foulglory)
New member Username: Foulglory Post Number: 244 Registered: 1-2007 |
Would hitting the target give one of you an advantage that the others would be jealous of? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 805 Registered: 3-2006 |
Would hitting the target give one of you an advantage that the others would be jealous of? nice thought, but no: we all decided not to aim for it | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 138 Registered: 4-2007 |
would someone be killed if you hit the target? would someone be injured if you hit the target? would the people who threw the object toward the target be killed or injured? was the object thrown a grenade? a dart? bowling ball? baseball? some other sort of ball? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 808 Registered: 3-2006 |
would someone be killed if you hit the target? no would someone be injured if you hit the target? very very unlikely would the people who threw the object toward the target be killed or injured? neither was the object thrown a grenade? no a dart? no bowling ball? nobaseball? no some other sort of ball? yes | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 139 Registered: 4-2007 |
was it a ball used in a sport? cannonball? were you playing a game? a sport? were points scored by hitting the target? were you playing against another team? another person? was the ball thrown made out of rubber? wood? metal? other? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 810 Registered: 3-2006 |
was it a ball used in a sport? yes cannonball? no were you playing a game? yes a sport? yes were points scored by hitting the target? no were you playing against another team? this one another person? was the ball thrown made out of rubber? wood? partly this metal? other? and partly this | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 423 Registered: 11-2003 |
Were you playing cricket? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 811 Registered: 3-2006 |
Were you playing cricket? Yes! | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 424 Registered: 11-2003 |
Then I leave it to the ones that know, lol. Even after almost 10 years in Ireland my knowledge of cricket is zilch. | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 814 Registered: 3-2006 |
Then I leave it to the ones that know, lol. Even after almost 10 years in Ireland my knowledge of cricket is zilch. Heheh. Actually, no knowledge of the game is needed, except that it involves bowling a hard ball, roughly 4cm in diameter, at three wooden stumps. On this occasion, we agreed not to aim the ball at the stumps. The puzzle is to find out why. | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 144 Registered: 4-2007 |
Was the game rigged? Was someone trying to pay you off to lose the game? Total guess--I know in the US, baseball teams with very young players (and I mean with players around six-years-old) have what is called "coach pitched" baseball, where the coach of the team pitches to his own players. Could it be something like this? Were the "batters" young players that were on your own team? | ||
| Foulglory (Foulglory)
New member Username: Foulglory Post Number: 247 Registered: 1-2007 |
Maybe the batsman was very good at hitting balls aimed at the stumps? A good square cutter or straight driver etc.?} | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 815 Registered: 3-2006 |
Was the game rigged? Unusually for the world of cricket these days, no: it was a fair contest Was someone trying to pay you off to lose the game? no Total guess--I know in the US, baseball teams with very young players (and I mean with players around six-years-old) have what is called "coach pitched" baseball, where the coach of the team pitches to his own players. Could it be something like this? Were the "batters" young players that were on your own team? Neat thought, but not this. It was an actual game. Maybe the batsman was very good at hitting balls aimed at the stumps? A good square cutter or straight driver etc.? no: a lot of bowlers prefer to bowl just outside the off-stump to induce uncertainty, but the answer is much less technical than that | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1005 Registered: 8-2006 |
Were the wooden stumps rotten? Therefore, if the hard ball hits the stumps, the course would be ruined? | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 295 Registered: 4-2007 |
I'm assuming this has been cleared up, but you were on the fielding team, right? Because if you were on the batting team and aimed at the stumps... The "We" in the statement, is that your team? Or all the players on both teams? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 818 Registered: 3-2006 |
Crazy: Were the wooden stumps rotten? no Therefore, if the hard ball hits the stumps, the course would be ruined? no Enjay: I'm assuming this has been cleared up, but you were on the fielding team, right? Right! It hadn't been asked, and one never knows Because if you were on the batting team and aimed at the stumps... Hehe ... that would be a particularly odd way of getting out The "We" in the statement, is that your team? Or all the players on both teams? this one: it would apply to any bowler from either team | ||
| Foulglory (Foulglory)
New member Username: Foulglory Post Number: 250 Registered: 1-2007 |
Were you playing with less than 11 players? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 819 Registered: 3-2006 |
Were you playing with less than 11 players? no: it was a full eleven as I remember | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 299 Registered: 4-2007 |
So was this for the whole game? Did the two teams meet before the game and agree not to aim at the stumps? Were you trying to make the game last longer? Were you making a statement of some kind? Making a protest? Could you still get the batters out in another way (by catching the ball or any other ways of getting people out in cricket)? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 820 Registered: 3-2006 |
So was this for the whole game? yes Did the two teams meet before the game and agree not to aim at the stumps? yes Were you trying to make the game last longer? no Were you making a statement of some kind? no Making a protest? no Could you still get the batters out in another way (by catching the ball or any other ways of getting people out in cricket)? yes: I think there are ten ways of getting out in cricket, so any of the other ways would still be possible | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 301 Registered: 4-2007 |
Is it relevant who won in the end? Did this agreement benefit both teams, even the team who lost? Was this an "official" decision, eg the umpire knew about it? Or did you decide this secretly? If the game officials had known about the bad thing that would have happened if you hit the stumps, would they have called off the game? Was the agreement designed to make the game more fair in some way? Is there anything relevant about any individuals on either team? Or about the teams themselves? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 821 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is it relevant who won in the end?no Did this agreement benefit both teams, even the team who lost? yes Was this an "official" decision, eg the umpire knew about it? yes Or did you decide this secretly? no If the game officials had known about the bad thing that would have happened if you hit the stumps, would they have called off the game? no Was the agreement designed to make the game more fair in some way? no Is there anything relevant about any individuals on either team? no Or about the teams themselves? no | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 150 Registered: 4-2007 |
was this a casual game? was this simply to figure out which batters could bat well (without the whole added aspect of "striking them out")--forgive me for my baseball terminology! was this a way to give the fielders practice since all the "outs" would come from them and not from the bowlers hitting the target? was this a way for the bowlers to really practice throwing well--how well they could aim by not aiming for the target? (not sure how to word this) | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 823 Registered: 3-2006 |
was this a casual game? Yes: good question was this simply to figure out which batters could bat well (without the whole added aspect of "striking them out")--forgive me for my baseball terminology! no, not this sort of thing was this a way to give the fielders practice since all the "outs" would come from them and not from the bowlers hitting the target? good idea, but not the one was this a way for the bowlers to really practice throwing well--how well they could aim by not aiming for the target? (not sure how to word this) not this either, I'm afraid | ||
| Foulglory (Foulglory)
New member Username: Foulglory Post Number: 251 Registered: 1-2007 |
Did any member of any team have a disability? Is LBW relevant? | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 305 Registered: 4-2007 |
Is there anything relevant about the equipment you were using? If so, the bat? Ball? Stumps? Or can we assume that you were using the same equipment that would be used in a formal game? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 824 Registered: 3-2006 |
Did any member of any team have a disability? no Is LBW relevant? no Is there anything relevant about the equipment you were using? no If so, the bat? Ball? Stumps? Or can we assume that you were using the same equipment that would be used in a formal game? you can,yes | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 152 Registered: 4-2007 |
You stated that "a bad thing would happen if you hit the target"... Did you, by chance, change any rules of the game before it started? I know that it is normally good for the bowlers to hit the target (I think this constitutes as an out). Did you make a rule up before this game that gave the batting team/batters an advantage if the bowler hit the target--maybe they got a run if the target was hit? In other words, if the target was hit, did the advantage go to the batters instead of the bowler? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 825 Registered: 3-2006 |
You stated that "a bad thing would happen if you hit the target"... yes Did you, by chance, change any rules of the game before it started? no: the rules were the same, but this was more of a sporting agreement I know that it is normally good for the bowlers to hit the target (I think this constitutes as an out). yes: if the ball hits the stumps the batsman is out Did you make a rule up before this game that gave the batting team/batters an advantage if the bowler hit the target--maybe they got a run if the target was hit? nothing like this, though such a rule might be quite an interesting way of deterring the bowler from aiming there In other words, if the target was hit, did the advantage go to the batters instead of the bowler? no: if the target was hit, both sides would be inconvenienced | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 308 Registered: 4-2007 |
Would they be inconvenienced just as far as the game went (ie according to the rules of the game)? Or something specific to your circumstances just then? Is the weather relevant? Where you are playing? Is it on a proper cricket pitch, or did you just set up the equipment somewhere else? Would you be inconvenienced by doing badly in the game? | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 153 Registered: 4-2007 |
were you afraid that if you hit the target and the wood pieces fell off, it would take some time to put them back on and the game would go on too long :o) (couldn't resist this question, because I know that cricket matches can go on for ages!) I have heard the phrase "sticky wicket" before, and I think it has to do with cricket. Not sure what this means exactly, but is it relevant? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 826 Registered: 3-2006 |
Would they be inconvenienced just as far as the game went (ie according to the rules of the game)? no Or something specific to your circumstances just then? this Is the weather relevant? no Where you are playing? no Is it on a proper cricket pitch, yes or did you just set up the equipment somewhere else? no Would you be inconvenienced by doing badly in the game? no: in another way | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 827 Registered: 3-2006 |
were you afraid that if you hit the target and the wood pieces fell off, it would take some time to put them back on and the game would go on too long :o) (couldn't resist this question, because I know that cricket matches can go on for ages!) Heheh! No .... though the long duration of cricket matches is not entirely irrelevant I have heard the phrase "sticky wicket" before, and I think it has to do with cricket. Not sure what this means exactly, but is it relevant? not sure either: I think it means a tricky pitch to bat on. In any case, it isn't relevant here | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 155 Registered: 4-2007 |
did you wanted a shorter match? was it a holiday? was something special happening that day? birthday, perhaps? did lighting have anything to do with it? like you had to finish before a certain time because it would be too dark to see? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 828 Registered: 3-2006 |
did you wanted a shorter match? no was it a holiday? perhaps, but irrel was something special happening that day? birthday, perhaps? nothing like that did lighting have anything to do with it? no like you had to finish before a certain time because it would be too dark to see? no | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 310 Registered: 4-2007 |
If you had wanted, could you have played on for as long as you wanted? There was nothing dictating how long the game could be? Did you want a more exciting match, as you thought it would be no fun if the bowler just kept getting people out that way? Anything like this? Would the game have been able to continue if you had hit the stumps? If you hit the stumps, would you be physically inconvenienced? Annoyed? Would someone else be angry with you? Would it seriously affect your life to come, or just be inconvenient at the time? Were you supposed to be playing cricket? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 831 Registered: 3-2006 |
If you had wanted, could you have played on for as long as you wanted? irrelevant ... see next There was nothing dictating how long the game could be? it was a casual afternoon game, and probably would have ended by dusk Did you want a more exciting match, as you thought it would be no fun if the bowler just kept getting people out that way? no Anything like this? no Would the game have been able to continue if you had hit the stumps? there would have been a delay, but play would probably have resumed If you hit the stumps, would you be physically inconvenienced? not physically, no Annoyed? yes Would someone else be angry with you? most likely, yes Would it seriously affect your life to come, or just be inconvenient at the time? the latter Were you supposed to be playing cricket? yes | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 311 Registered: 4-2007 |
Is it relevant that when the stumps are hit the bails fall off (I think that's what it's called??) The person that would most likely have been angry with you, is this another player? Someone watching the game? Would something be physically damaged if you hit the target? You said there was something relevant close to the target: would this thing be damaged? Is there a danger that hitting the target would also hit something else? Or would set in motion a chain of events leading to the bad thing happenening? Are you worried that your ball or someof your equipment might have been lost? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 832 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is it relevant that when the stumps are hit the bails fall off (I think that's what it's called??) very vaguely, I suppose The person that would most likely have been angry with you, is this another player? yes: some or all of the other players Someone watching the game? no Would something be physically damaged if you hit the target? yes You said there was something relevant close to the target: would this thing be damaged? yes Is there a danger that hitting the target would also hit something else? yes: as above Or would set in motion a chain of events leading to the bad thing happenening? only as described above Are you worried that your ball or someof your equipment might have been lost? no | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 158 Registered: 4-2007 |
Thing that was close to the target and might be damaged: building? house? car? sprinkler system? windows in a building? was the object that might be damaged made of: wood? glass? metal? paper? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 833 Registered: 3-2006 |
Thing that was close to the target and might be damaged: building? house? car? sprinkler system? windows in a building? none of those was the object that might be damaged made of: wood? glass? partly this metal? paper? no to rest | ||
| Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member Username: Tobasi Post Number: 440 Registered: 8-2006 |
The object that might be damaged was made of glass and: stone? concrete? tissue? organic material? plastic? a liquid? a gas? Was it longer than 1 cm? 10 cm? 1 m? 10 m? 100 m? Would you have preferred to remove this object? and couldn't for some reason? Or did you place the object there intentionally? Was there some kind of bet going on? Did it belong to any of the players? Has the object something to do with cricket? Did all the players (pitcher? batter? catcher?) have the usual positions in the field? Did you aim at something else instead of the target? at the catcher? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 834 Registered: 3-2006 |
The object that might be damaged was made of glass and: stone? concrete? tissue? organic material? plastic? a liquid? this a gas? Was it longer than 1 cm? 10 cm? this 1 m? 10 m? 100 m? Would you have preferred to remove this object? no and couldn't for some reason? Or did you place the object there intentionally? yes Was there some kind of bet going on? no Did it belong to any of the players? yes Has the object something to do with cricket? no Did all the players (pitcher? batter? catcher?) have the usual positions in the field? yes Did you aim at something else instead of the target? no: just wider than usual at the catcher? no | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 159 Registered: 4-2007 |
so, it was longer than 10 cm and shorter than 1m... was it shorter than 90cm? 80cm? 70cm? 60cm? 50cm? 40cm? 30cm? 20cm? 15cm? was it a container with a liquid in it? a drink? an aquarium with fish in it? was it put there to see if you could keep from hitting the target? was it put there as "safekeeping" for a team member? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 835 Registered: 3-2006 |
so, it was longer than 10 cm and shorter than 1m... was it shorter than 90cm? 80cm? 70cm? 60cm? 50cm? 40cm? 30cm? 20cm? 15cm? it was about 16cm, the usual height of a British pint glass was it a container with a liquid in it? yes a drink? YES! an aquarium with fish in it? now that would be quite surreal, even by our team standards ... was it put there as "safekeeping" for a team member? exactly this! well done So you have all the details: all that remains is the story: *** SPOILER *** True story: when I was at college, I used to play for a cricket team called the Mayflies. "Cricket team" was putting it kindly: we were a really a drinking team who played a bit of cricket on the side, and we liked to think of ourselves as the worst and silliest cricket team in England. One of the drawbacks of cricket is that there is nowhere good to put your beer while you're playing. In the "proper" game, they get drinks served on a tray every hour, but we wanted more regular refreshment than that, obviously. So someone discovered that the safest place to put your pint is actually right behind the stumps. It sounds daft, but in fact it is the only place on the field that is almost impossible to hit by the batsman. So we all lined up our beers neatly behind the wicket. Naturally, we had a "gentlemen's agreement" not to bowl at the stumps. Congrats/thanks/apologies to all who played this silly one. I was quite surprised it lasted so long. | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 836 Registered: 3-2006 |
PS "Bullseye" is a beer from New Zealand, I believe. |
