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Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 331 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 9:26 pm: |      |
Ethel is very glad that Fred is an alcoholic. Why? |
Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover
Post Number: 169 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 9:49 pm: |      |
ethel h? a? f? fred h? a? m? is their relationship: kin: brother/sister? husband/wife? aunt/nephew? uncle/niece? friends? work associates? is she glad he is an alcoholic so she can take care of him? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 332 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 9:51 pm: |      |
ethel h? a? f? fred h? a? m? Yes to all though genders are irrelevant for this puzzle is their relationship: kin: brother/sister? husband/wife? aunt/nephew? uncle/niece? friends? work associates? None is she glad he is an alcoholic so she can take care of him? No |
Sherluck_hums (Sherluck_hums)
New member Username: Sherluck_hums
Post Number: 196 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 12:05 am: |      |
Is there a crime crime or an attempted crime involved? |
Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink
Post Number: 123 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 7:47 am: |      |
Is she happy because he can remember her name ( as in "ethyl alcohol" )? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 335 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 12:45 pm: |      |
Is there a crime crime or an attempted crime involved? Yes-an actual crime Is she happy because he can remember her name ( as in "ethyl alcohol" )? No but interesting thought! |
Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli
Post Number: 473 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 12:52 pm: |      |
Are Ethyl and Fred strangers? The criminal is it Fred? Ethyl? someone else? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 336 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 12:54 pm: |      |
Are Ethyl and Fred strangers? Yesish The criminal is it Fred? Ethyl? someone else? Fred |
Lshooter3k (Lshooter3k)
New member Username: Lshooter3k
Post Number: 6 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 1:05 pm: |      |
Was Ethel the victim? If so, would what happened to her have been worse if Fred wasn't an alcoholic |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 338 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 1:09 pm: |      |
Was Ethel the victim? Noish If so, would what happened to her have been worse if Fred wasn't an alcoholic No |
Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli
Post Number: 474 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 2:34 pm: |      |
About that yes-ish to strangers. Did they know about each other, but did not know each other personally? had they ever met before this took place? did they ever meet? Location relevant? Any else relevant about Fred except being an alcholic and criminal? Anything relevant about Ethel? someone else relevant for this puzzle? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 347 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 2:48 pm: |      |
About that yes-ish to strangers. Did they know about each other, but did not know each other personally? Not this had they ever met before this took place? No did they ever meet? They met once, after the crime Location relevant? No Any else relevant about Fred except being an alcholic and criminal? It's relevant what his crime was, but other than that, no Anything relevant about Ethel? Yes someone else relevant for this puzzle? no |
Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli
Post Number: 477 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 3:17 pm: |      |
Was his crime theft? arson? assualt? murder? robbery? burglary? fraud? Did he actually manage to pull of the crime? or did it fail? if so, because he was too drunk? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 352 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 3:22 pm: |      |
Was his crime theft? arson? assualt? murder? robbery? burglary? fraud? None Did he actually manage to pull of the crime? Yes or did it fail? if so, because he was too drunk? No |
Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli
Post Number: 480 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 3:47 pm: |      |
Was anyone hurt? If so, financially? physically? emotionally? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 354 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 3:49 pm: |      |
Was anyone hurt? If so, financially? physically? emotionally? You mean by the crime? If so, then Fred was physically hurt and Ethel was probably financially hurt |
~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~
Post Number: 506 Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 4:11 pm: |      |
is his crime mugging? burglary? was he violent? did he pass out after the crime? or even during? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 355 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 4:26 pm: |      |
is his crime mugging? burglary? was he violent? No to all did he pass out after the crime? No or even during? No |
Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli
Post Number: 482 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 4:36 pm: |      |
hacking relevant? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 357 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 4:39 pm: |      |
hacking relevant? No |
Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink
Post Number: 135 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, May 17, 2007 - 5:21 am: |      |
So, Fred commits a non-violent, white-collar crime which may leave Ethel financially hurt. His being alcoholic, however, prevents a more serious and undesirable things from happening. The crime: fraud, scam, tax evasion, insider trading, other money-related crime? Intellectual property involved? Traffic incident? The bad thing that was avoided, would it have affected Fred? Ethel? Was she able to blame something on him because he was a known alcoholic? Was she investigating the crime? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 375 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, May 17, 2007 - 12:41 pm: |      |
So, Fred commits a non-violent, white-collar crime which may leave Ethel financially hurt.Well...perhaps the answer to "Was he violent" should be noish. He wasn't violent himself, but remember he as physicallyhurt after the crime...explore this His being alcoholic, however, prevents a more serious and undesirable things from happening. Not exactly The crime: fraud, scam, tax evasion, insider trading, other money-related crime? No to all these Intellectual property involved? No Traffic incident? This one is closest The bad thing that was avoided, would it have affected Fred? Ethel? I wouldn't say a bad thing was avoided, but Ethel benefited Was she able to blame something on him because he was a known alcoholic? No Was she investigating the crime? No |
~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~
Post Number: 517 Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, May 17, 2007 - 4:26 pm: |      |
does he do a hit and run? crash into someone/thing? speed? park illegally? was he pulled over for drunk driving? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 379 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, May 17, 2007 - 4:37 pm: |      |
does he do a hit and run? crash into someone/thing? This speed? park illegally? was he pulled over for drunk driving? Not pulled over but drunk driving was his crime |
~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~
Post Number: 522 Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, May 17, 2007 - 4:49 pm: |      |
did he crash into someone? something? another car? a tree? lamp post? if he hadn't crashed would he have done something to Ethel? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 383 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, May 17, 2007 - 4:51 pm: |      |
did he crash into someone? something? this another car? a tree? lamp post? none if he hadn't crashed would he have done something to Ethel? no |
~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~
Post Number: 528 Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 9:16 am: |      |
did he crash into another vehicle? a house? something belonging to Ethel? did she get insurance on it? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 392 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 11:11 am: |      |
did he crash into another vehicle? a house? No but you're getting warm something belonging to Ethel? This did she get insurance on it? No |
Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli
Post Number: 490 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 11:24 am: |      |
Did he crash in to the fence around her house? a shed? an outhouse? the porch? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 393 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 11:29 am: |      |
Did he crash in to the fence around her house? Pretty much...I was thinking of a garden wall but it doesn't matter a shed? an outhouse? the porch? |
Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli
Post Number: 491 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 11:33 am: |      |
Was she happy about him destroying the garden wall? or was she happy because by hitting the garden wall he avoided hitting something else? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 394 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 11:39 am: |      |
Was she happy about him destroying the garden wall? or was she happy because by hitting the garden wall he avoided hitting something else? Neither |
~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~
Post Number: 534 Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 11:46 am: |      |
did she get any money from him? did she sue him? did he damage anything apart from her wall? did she not like her garden wall? did she end up with a better wall? |
Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli
Post Number: 492 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 11:51 am: |      |
Just to clarify; you said once that Ethel was financially hurt. Was that because of the damage to the garden wall? or is there another reason? That something relevant about Ethel; something in her background? family? job? hobbies? where she was born? where she lives? something about her physical appearance? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 395 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 11:54 am: |      |
Just to clarify; you said once that Ethel was financially hurt. Was that because of the damage to the garden wall? Yes or is there another reason? No, that's it That something relevant about Ethel; something in her background? family? job? hobbies? where she was born? where she lives? something about her physical appearance? Yope to this, no to the rest |
Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli
Post Number: 494 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 12:12 pm: |      |
Did Ethel have a disability? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 398 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 12:14 pm: |      |
Did Ethel have a disability? Not a disability but you're on the right lines |
Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli
Post Number: 497 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 12:57 pm: |      |
Does she have a disease? if not disease, then any medical condition? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 403 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 12:58 pm: |      |
Does she have a disease? if not disease, then any medical condition? This, I don't think you would call it a disease |
Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli
Post Number: 500 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 2:00 pm: |      |
Does this medical condition affects the way she behaves? the way she walks? her appearance otherwise? if you see her in the street, would you immediately know that she had this? or a medical condition? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 407 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 2:14 pm: |      |
Does this medical condition affects the way she behaves? the way she walks? Neither her appearance otherwise? Yes if you see her in the street, would you immediately know that she had this? or a medical condition? You would know she had somethin, you might not necessarily know she had this specific condition |
Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli
Post Number: 502 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 2:19 pm: |      |
Does she have all four limbs intact? does the medical condition affect her speech? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 408 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 2:21 pm: |      |
Does she have all four limbs intact? Yes does the medical condition affect her speech? No |
Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli
Post Number: 503 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 2:38 pm: |      |
Is the medical condition something that she was born with? something that developed with age? due to an injury? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 409 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 2:41 pm: |      |
Is the medical condition something that she was born with? This something that developed with age? due to an injury? |
Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli
Post Number: 504 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 2:43 pm: |      |
A birth mark? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 411 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 2:47 pm: |      |
A birth mark? No |
Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli
Post Number: 505 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 2:51 pm: |      |
Does she have a mental handicap? is she disfigured? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 412 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 2:53 pm: |      |
Does she have a mental handicap? No is she disfigured? Yesish |
Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli
Post Number: 506 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 2:59 pm: |      |
This yesish disfigurement is it on her face? upper body? lower body? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 413 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 3:00 pm: |      |
This yesish disfigurement is it on her face? upper body? lower body? All I would think but probably most noticeable on her face |
Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli
Post Number: 507 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 3:05 pm: |      |
Does she have Down's syndrome? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 415 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 3:11 pm: |      |
Does she have Down's syndrome? No |
Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli
Post Number: 508 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 3:27 pm: |      |
A skin condition? |
Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover
Post Number: 188 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 3:35 pm: |      |
vitiligo? I believe this is the one where your skin loses pigmentation in various spots. skin cancer--melanoma? vericose veins? |
Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover
Post Number: 189 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 3:49 pm: |      |
was she embarrassed about her disfigurement? did she have any other problems because of her disfigurment? possibly mental? was she an agoraphobiac? if so, had this accident caused her to go outside and deal with the public for the first time in years? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 417 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 4:07 pm: |      |
was she embarrassed about her disfigurement? Possibly but not really relevant did she have any other problems because of her disfigurment? possibly mental? Her disfigurement was the result of another problem, but it didn't cause another problem was she an agoraphobiac? if so, had this accident caused her to go outside and deal with the public for the first time in years? No |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 418 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 4:08 pm: |      |
A skin condition? Yes vitiligo? I believe this is the one where your skin loses pigmentation in various spots. Not this skin cancer--melanoma? No vericose veins? No |
Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli
Post Number: 510 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 4:10 pm: |      |
psoriasis? ezcema? allergic reactions? or a more severe condition? like the one where skin blisters all the time? or is highly sensitive to sunlight? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 419 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 4:11 pm: |      |
psoriasis? ezcema? allergic reactions? This or a more severe condition? like the one where skin blisters all the time? or is highly sensitive to sunlight? |
Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli
Post Number: 511 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 4:13 pm: |      |
Does the condition make her skin "blush"? or does she have rashes? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 420 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 4:24 pm: |      |
Does the condition make her skin "blush"? or does she have rashes? This |
Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli
Post Number: 513 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 4:33 pm: |      |
So Ethel has a medical condition that causes rashes on her skin due to allergic reactions. Her garden wall is destroyed by Fred, who crashed into it while driving under influence of alcohol. Correct so far? Is she at home when this happens? if so, relevant? Does the accident cause anything else to happen? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 421 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 4:47 pm: |      |
So Ethel has a medical condition that causes rashes on her skin due to allergic reactions. Her garden wall is destroyed by Fred, who crashed into it while driving under influence of alcohol. Correct so far? Yes-the medical condition is the allergy Is she at home when this happens? if so, relevant? Yes, and relevant Does the accident cause anything else to happen? Yope |
Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover
Post Number: 191 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 6:22 pm: |      |
Does she have allergic reactions to any of the plants/flowers in her garden? Were plants/flowers in her garden destroyed? Did she witness the crash by seeing it? by hearing it? Did the crash cause her to faint/hyperventilate? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 422 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 6:27 pm: |      |
Does she have allergic reactions to any of the plants/flowers in her garden? Were plants/flowers in her garden destroyed? Good idea but no to both Did she witness the crash by seeing it? by hearing it? Probably the latter Did the crash cause her to faint/hyperventilate? No |
Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover
Post Number: 193 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 6:45 pm: |      |
Did this crash somehow cause her allergic reactions/rash to disappear or be alleviated in any way? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 423 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 7:01 pm: |      |
Did this crash somehow cause her allergic reactions/rash to disappear or be alleviated in any way? Indirectly, yes(ish) |
Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover
Post Number: 194 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 7:09 pm: |      |
Did she have to go to the hospital for any reason because of the crash? Did she have to go to a doctor's office for any reason because of the crash? If so (to either one of the above questions), was she given anything new (medicine, shots, etc) that helped her get rid of/alleviate her allergic reactions/rash? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 424 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Friday, May 18, 2007 - 7:23 pm: |      |
Did she have to go to the hospital for any reason because of the crash? Did she have to go to a doctor's office for any reason because of the crash? no to both If so (to either one of the above questions), was she given anything new (medicine, shots, etc) that helped her get rid of/alleviate her allergic reactions/rash? So no |
Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink
Post Number: 138 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, May 19, 2007 - 7:56 am: |      |
Did the wall Fred crashed into had mould on or in it? Did her pet escape through the broken wall, so there were no more allergens? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 433 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, May 19, 2007 - 9:15 am: |      |
Did the wall Fred crashed into had mould on or in it? Did her pet escape through the broken wall, so there were no more allergens? No to both |
Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli
Post Number: 515 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 9:47 am: |      |
Is it relevant what she's allergic to? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 476 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 10:14 am: |      |
Is it relevant what she's allergic to? Yes, although a few different things might work |
Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli
Post Number: 519 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 10:39 am: |      |
Is it a food allergy? pollen? animal fur? feathers? dust? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 478 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 10:41 am: |      |
Is it a food allergy? This pollen? animal fur? feathers? dust? |
Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli
Post Number: 523 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 1:01 pm: |      |
Relevant what type of food she's allergic to? If so, is it one of the common ones, like diary? nuts? fish? gluten? eggs? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 484 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 1:20 pm: |      |
Relevant what type of food she's allergic to? Yes If so, is it one of the common ones, like diary? Yes...assuming you meant dairy :-) nuts? fish? gluten? eggs? |
~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~
Post Number: 556 Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 2:04 pm: |      |
did something about the crash somehow stop the allergy? or cause her to stop eating dairy food? did she know what food she was allergic to? |
Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli
Post Number: 524 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 2:05 pm: |      |
I did mean dairy, just a bit of fingertrouble there, too quick on the keys, lol Is she allergic to all kinds of dairy products? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 486 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 2:40 pm: |      |
~Damia~ did something about the crash somehow stop the allergy? No or cause her to stop eating dairy food? Yesishdid she know what food she was allergic to? No! Good question Eli I did mean dairy, just a bit of fingertrouble there, too quick on the keys, lol :-) Is she allergic to all kinds of dairy products? Probably but one in particular is relevant to this puzzle |
Eli (Eli)
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Post Number: 526 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 2:45 pm: |      |
Is she allergic to something unusual? something that you may not eat that often? like goat's cheese? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 488 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 3:00 pm: |      |
Is she allergic to something unusual? no something that you may not eat that often? No like goat's cheese? No |
Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli
Post Number: 528 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 3:17 pm: |      |
Was she aware that she was allergic to dairy? If so, was she about to eat something she knew contained dairy? something she didn't knew contained dairy? |
Lshooter3k (Lshooter3k)
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Post Number: 11 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 3:18 pm: |      |
Milk? Eggs? Butter? Cheese? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 491 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 3:21 pm: |      |
Eli Was she aware that she was allergic to dairy? Before the crash, no If so, was she about to eat something she knew contained dairy? Yes, because she didn't know she was allergic to it something she didn't knew contained dairy? Lshooter3k Milk? This Eggs? Butter? Cheese? |
Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli
Post Number: 529 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 3:30 pm: |      |
Is it relevant WHY she didn't know she was allergic to milk beforehand? She's an adult, right? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 493 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 3:33 pm: |      |
Is it relevant WHY she didn't know she was allergic to milk beforehand? She's an adult, right? Yes, she is an adult, but it's not relevant why she didn't know. |
Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
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Post Number: 486 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 3:52 pm: |      |
parachuting in here but .. is Fred's job relevant? I have an idea that would work... but only if Fred was in a particular line of work... or I suppose also suffered from a similar allergy... |
Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli
Post Number: 530 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 3:55 pm: |      |
Just my very logical mind that got confused, how an adult can not know she's allergic to milk, lol? So she's about to eat or drink something with milk? But the accidents stops her from doing so? Is this only because she gets startled (or similar)? Or does something else happen as well? |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 495 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 4:08 pm: |      |
parachuting in here but .. is Fred's job relevant? No, sorry I have an idea that would work... but only if Fred was in a particular line of work... or I suppose also suffered from a similar allergy... Just my very logical mind that got confused, how an adult can not know she's allergic to milk, lol? I don't know, but this is apparently a true story... So she's about to eat or drink something with milk? Well, not that very minute, but yes But the accidents stops her from doing so? Yes Is this only because she gets startled (or similar)? Or does something else happen as well? A little more |
Eli (Eli)
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Post Number: 531 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 4:12 pm: |      |
Does the accident cause her to realize she's allergic to milk somehow? If so, the accident itself? something about Fred? Something else? |
Enjay (Enjay)
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Post Number: 496 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 4:14 pm: |      |
Does the accident cause her to realize she's allergic to milk somehow? Indirectly If so, the accident itself? something about Fred? Something else? This |
Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
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Post Number: 488 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 4:37 pm: |      |
hm... my idea could still work... with a tweak! Fred has crashed into Ethel's fence. Police and ambulance are called. When the medics arrive and it is obvious that Fred is not seriously hurt, Ethel grabs the opportunity to ask about her own health (feeling rundown or some such thing). Medical investigations show her to be intolerant to milk and dairy products (allergies can develop in later life so no mystery there) Ethel is glad that Fred is an alcoholic since if he wasn't he wouldn't have crashed into her fence, the medics wouldn't have been there and she would have ate that welsh rarebit she was planning for supper. |
Enjay (Enjay)
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Post Number: 498 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 4:39 pm: |      |
hm... my idea could still work... with a tweak! Fred has crashed into Ethel's fence. Police and ambulance are called. When the medics arrive and it is obvious that Fred is not seriously hurt, Ethel grabs the opportunity to ask about her own health (feeling rundown or some such thing). Medical investigations show her to be intolerant to milk and dairy products (allergies can develop in later life so no mystery there) Ethel is glad that Fred is an alcoholic since if he wasn't he wouldn't have crashed into her fence, the medics wouldn't have been there and she would have ate that welsh rarebit she was planning for supper. Very clever but no...my solution is more boring I'm afraid! |
Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
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Post Number: 490 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 4:50 pm: |      |
Oh well it was worth a try... basic question not asked... any other people involved? consider list of numbers asked and male/female for each if relevant |
Enjay (Enjay)
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Post Number: 500 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 4:54 pm: |      |
Oh well it was worth a try... and a very good try too...wait a few months and make it into you own puzzle! :-) basic question not asked... any other people involved? no, just Fred and Ethel consider list of numbers asked and male/female for each if relevant |
Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
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Post Number: 492 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 5:06 pm: |      |
Deos she drop the pan containing the milk on the floor? No more milk left so she goes without, and realises that she feels better than she has for some time... investigates further and realises that she is lactose intolerant? |
Enjay (Enjay)
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Post Number: 501 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 5:18 pm: |      |
Deos she drop the pan containing the milk on the floor? No more milk left so she goes without, and realises that she feels better than she has for some time... investigates further and realises that she is lactose intolerant? This last bit (feeling better then investigating etc) is right, but she doesn't drop the pan |
Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
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Post Number: 493 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 5:33 pm: |      |
Ok is the milk ruined somehow? does a cat drink it? |
Enjay (Enjay)
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Post Number: 502 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 5:36 pm: |      |
Ok is the milk ruined somehow? does a cat drink it? Neither |
Booklover (Booklover)
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Post Number: 206 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 12:37 am: |      |
does she drink milk right before the crash? does she develop a rash right before/during/ soon after the crash? do the medics investigate her at all? do the medics investigate her rash? do the medics tell her that she is allergic to milk? does the crash keep her from drinking milk? |
~damia~ (~damia~)
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Post Number: 565 Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 9:15 am: |      |
does she just not drink milk because she is so busy clearing up after the crash? or getting someone to fix the wall? |
Eli (Eli)
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Post Number: 533 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 11:46 am: |      |
Does she not drink milk because there is none left? Was the milk used for something else related to the crash? Did she give it to Fred to sober up? |
Enjay (Enjay)
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Post Number: 509 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 1:12 pm: |      |
Booklover does she drink milk right before the crash? No does she develop a rash right before/during/ soon after the crash? She already had the rash; remember she has been drinking milk all her life as she didn't know she was allergic do the medics investigate her at all? do the medics investigate her rash? No to both do the medics tell her that she is allergic to milk? No does the crash keep her from drinking milk? Yes ~Damia~ does she just not drink milk because she is so busy clearing up after the crash? Yesish or getting someone to fix the wall? No Eli Does she not drink milk because there is none left? Was the milk used for something else related to the crash? Did she give it to Fred to sober up? No to all |
Booklover (Booklover)
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Post Number: 213 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 3:10 pm: |      |
So, because she is kept from drinking milk, does her rash disappear? if so, does she relate the disappearance of the rash to not drinking milk? is it relevant just that she doesn't drink the milk or do we need to find out exactly why she is stopped from drinking the milk? |
Enjay (Enjay)
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Post Number: 510 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 4:28 pm: |      |
So, because she is kept from drinking milk, does her rash disappear? Yes if so, does she relate the disappearance of the rash to not drinking milk? Yes is it relevant just that she doesn't drink the milk or do we need to find out exactly why she is stopped from drinking the milk? You need to find out why |
Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
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Post Number: 494 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 4:32 pm: |      |
So she is too busy and something else? is the milk itself affected by something? to do with the accident? to do with something else? caused by the delay in using it? is the fact that Fred is an alcoholic in any way related to the milk? ie is this a detail we are working out or the crux of the puzzle? |
Eli (Eli)
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Post Number: 535 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 4:36 pm: |      |
Does she leave the milk on the table or work top and something falls into it and thus makes her not drink it? if so, is something related to the crash? |
Enjay (Enjay)
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Post Number: 511 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 4:50 pm: |      |
So she is too busy and something else? Yes, well you nedc toknow why she was too busy is the milk itself affected by something? No to do with the accident? to do with something else? caused by the delay in using it? is the fact that Fred is an alcoholic in any way related to the milk? ie is this a detail we are working out or the crux of the puzzle? The only relevance of him being an alcoholic is that that was why he crashed |
Enjay (Enjay)
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Post Number: 512 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 4:51 pm: |      |
Does she leave the milk on the table or work top and something falls into it and thus makes her not drink it? if so, is something related to the crash? No to all |
Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
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Post Number: 496 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 5:07 pm: |      |
So her fence/wall has just been damaged? destroyed? by a drunk driver... you said no to a questiopn about pets and allergens, can we take it that no pets escaped during the making of this puzzle? so besides the usual businesss in this kinda situation (swapping insurance details , phoning the police etc etc) was she busy with an object? herself only? with Fred? with the car? with the fence? with the garden? with plants? trees? |
Enjay (Enjay)
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Post Number: 513 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 5:15 pm: |      |
So her fence/wall has just been damaged? Yesdestroyed? Possibly by a drunk driver... Yes you said no to a questiopn about pets and allergens, can we take it that no pets escaped during the making of this puzzle? You can...the only thing she's allergic to is dairy so besides the usual businesss in this kinda situation (swapping insurance details , phoning the police etc etc) was she busy with an object? herself only? with Fred? Yes with the car? with the fence? with the garden? with plants? trees? All these are possible |
Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
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Post Number: 498 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 5:42 pm: |      |
I wasn't thinking of allergies there, just the gathering back in of the escaped chickens or summat like that. So Fred desroys her fence.. she goes to see if he is OK, what damage has occurred and then...? something else? |
Enjay (Enjay)
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Post Number: 515 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 6:31 pm: |      |
I wasn't thinking of allergies there, just the gathering back in of the escaped chickens or summat like that. Ah sorry, but no, nothing like that So Fred desroys her fence.. Yes she goes to see if he is OK, what damage has occurred Yes and then...? something else? Yes |
Booklover (Booklover)
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Post Number: 215 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 6:44 pm: |      |
On May 16, in response to Enjay, you stated that Fred was physically hurt. Was he trapped in the car? under the rubble of the wall? Was he conscious when Ethel came outside? Is it relevant how hurt he was or just that he was physically hurt by the crash? If so, did he suffer a concussion? broken bones? Did they need to wait for an ambulance? Did he have to be checked out at the scene of the accident (which took a lot of time)? Did he have to go to the hospital? Did her dealing with the accident (once she heard the crash) take less than an hour? 1-2 hours, 3-4 hours? more? I am assuming that she is busy with these distractions, her rash disappears (and maybe she doesn't even think about it, what with everything going on), she goes inside and sees a glass of milk (which is probably very warm and probably spoiled), and she thinks, "I forgot to drink my milk," and then she realizes she doesn't have a rash which she has dealt with for a long time, and puts two and two together...." |
Enjay (Enjay)
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Post Number: 516 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 6:51 pm: |      |
On May 16, in response to Enjay, you stated that Fred was physically hurt. He was Was he trapped in the car? under the rubble of the wall? Both are possible Was he conscious when Ethel came outside? Yes Is it relevant how hurt he was or just that he was physically hurt by the crash? This If so, did he suffer a concussion? broken bones? Irrel Did they need to wait for an ambulance? Yes Did he have to be checked out at the scene of the accident (which took a lot of time)? Did he have to go to the hospital? Could be either Did her dealing with the accident (once she heard the crash) take less than an hour? Probably this 1-2 hours Maybe, 3-4 hours? more? The last two are very unlikely I am assuming that she is busy with these distractions, her rash disappears \b {Not straight away} (and maybe she doesn't even think about it, what with everything going on), she goes inside and sees a glass of milk (which is probably very warm and probably spoiled), and she thinks, "I forgot to drink my milk," Not exactly, but everything after this is right and then she realizes she doesn't have a rash which she has dealt with for a long time, and puts two and two together...." |
Booklover (Booklover)
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Post Number: 217 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 8:01 pm: |      |
had she even poured milk at all? if so, did the poured milk get spoiled at all? was it the last of the milk? if so, could she get no more milk and just had to drink something else? if she hadn't poured milk, had she already run out of milk and didn't have time to go to the store? was the store far away/ closed for the weekend? did she lose access to a car (or could she even drive)? |
Archerof5arrows (Archerof5arrows)
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Post Number: 20 Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 5:30 am: |      |
Did she visit Fred during his recovery? Help care for him? Form a friendly, time-consuming relationship with him? Or become so active in an anti-drunk-driving organization she had no time for a swig of milk? Or perhaps did her cow (not a pet but livestock!) escape from her garden after the crash? :] If she did have the aforementioned cow, was it her only source of milk? Because she was poor? |
Enjay (Enjay)
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Post Number: 519 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 10:30 am: |      |
had she even poured milk at all? No if so, did the poured milk get spoiled at all? was it the last of the milk? if so, could she get no more milk and just had to drink something else? No to all if she hadn't poured milk, had she already run out of milk and didn't have time to go to the store? No was the store far away/ closed for the weekend? No did she lose access to a car (or could she even drive)? She didn't lose access to a car and she could drive Did she visit Fred during his recovery? Help care for him? Form a friendly, time-consuming relationship with him? No to all these...the important thing is what happened directly after the crash Or become so active in an anti-drunk-driving organization she had no time for a swig of milk? No Or perhaps did her cow (not a pet but livestock!) escape from her garden after the crash? :] No...sadly she had no cow If she did have the aforementioned cow, was it her only source of milk? N/A Because she was poor? No |
Eli (Eli)
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Post Number: 537 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 11:37 am: |      |
Just for clarification; the reason why she didn't drink milk after the crash was it because she didn't have access to milk (ie the crash caused her milk to spill/spoil/or similar)? Or simply because she was so busy she didn't have time to drink it? Would she usually have milk that time of day? |
Enjay (Enjay)
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Post Number: 521 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 11:42 am: |      |
Just for clarification; the reason why she didn't drink milk after the crash was it because she didn't have access to milk (ie the crash caused her milk to spill/spoil/or similar)? Not this Or simply because she was so busy she didn't have time to drink it? Yes Would she usually have milk that time of day? Yes and it would help to know what time of day it was |
Lshooter3k (Lshooter3k)
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Post Number: 17 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 11:57 am: |      |
Do we need a specific time, or a general time? Morning? Noon? Afternoon? Evening? Night? |
Enjay (Enjay)
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Post Number: 522 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 12:00 pm: |      |
Do we need a specific time, or a general time? General Morning? This Noon? Afternoon? Evening? Night? |
Lshooter3k (Lshooter3k)
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Post Number: 18 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 12:02 pm: |      |
Did she always have a glass of milk with/for her breakfast? |
~damia~ (~damia~)
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Post Number: 576 Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 12:16 pm: |      |
did she normally go and buy milk in the morning? did she not have time to go to the shops? |
Eli (Eli)
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Post Number: 539 Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 12:29 pm: |      |
Did she go and do something else after the accident? like go to work, and because she was late she didn't have time to drink her usual glass of milk? |
Enjay (Enjay)
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Post Number: 523 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 5:06 pm: |      |
Did she always have a glass of milk with/for her breakfast? Not a glass, but... did she normally go and buy milk in the morning? No did she not have time to go to the shops? Did she go and do something else after the accident? Yes like go to work, Yes! and because she was late she didn't have time to drink her usual glass of milk? But not exactly |
Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
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Post Number: 501 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 5:08 pm: |      |
So the poor dear had no time to eat her cornflakes? or muesli or other breakfast cereal like that... or was it the porridge? |
Lshooter3k (Lshooter3k)
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Post Number: 23 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 5:08 pm: |      |
does she have cereal? but did not in this case? |
Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
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Post Number: 504 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 5:18 pm: |      |
Lshooter3k... looks like great minds think alike! Just remember that fools seldom differ! |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 527 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 6:03 pm: |      |
So the poor dear had no time to eat her cornflakes? Yup or muesli or other breakfast cereal like that... or was it the porridge? does she have cereal? but did not in this case? And yup Lshooter3k... looks like great minds think alike! Just remember that fools seldom differ! Indeed they do... ***************************SPOILER****************************** Ethel was minding her own business one morning when Fred, who'd been out on the town last night, drove his car into her wall. She rushed out, surveyed the damage, tended to Fred's wounds, waited for the ambulance...by which time she was very late for work. She rushed out, no time for her daily bowl of cornflakes (with milk), stopping only to grab a quick snack from the fridge. The next day she notices that that pesky skin condition she's had for a while is starting to clear up, puts two and two together and... Thanks to everyone who worked on this puzzle! |