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Only in America would Jose have faked a sneeze for the reason he did. How come??
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Jose=human adult male?
Are American politics relevant? American attitudes? Any specific American person relevant?
Jose's nationality relevant? His job? Gender? Where he was in America?
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Does sneeze literally mean sneeze (exhalation from nose)?
Does the time zone matter?
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Jose=human adult male?
Are American politics relevant? yes American attitudes? yesAny specific American person relevant? no
Jose's nationality relevant?No, as long as he is in America he doesn't have to be American, although he probably would be His job? no Gender? noWhere he was in America? yes
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Does sneeze literally mean sneeze (exhalation from nose)?
yesDoes the time zone matter? no
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Did he want people to think he was really sneezing? Did he want them to think he was allergic to something? To think he had a cold? Or some other illness? Was he trying to cover something up? Another sound? Could a cough have served the same purpose?
Does the area of America Jose is in have any particular religious beliefs relevant to this puzzle? Political beliefs? Any prejudices?
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Did he sneeze so he would HAVE to close his eyes? wipe his nose?
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Did he sneeze to gain something? to avoid something unpleasant? is his job relevant?
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Is there some law involved?
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did he sneeze as a reaction to something (i.e. allergies, something tickled his nose, etc)? or did he force himself to sneeze?

did he really sneeze or did he want people to think he was sneezing?
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Does America stand for: the United States? North America? North and South America?
Or is the place more restricted: one state of the US? one city?
Are animals or plants living in America relevant? or something geographical/geological?
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Did he want people to think he was really sneezing? possibly Did he want them to think he was allergic to something? no To think he had a cold? no Or some other illness? no Was he trying to cover something up? no Another sound? no Could a cough have served the same purpose? no
Does the area of America Jose is in have any particular religious beliefs relevant to this puzzle?yesish Political beliefs? yesish Any prejudices? no
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Did he sneeze so he would HAVE to close his eyes? no wipe his nose? no
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Did he sneeze to gain something? yes to avoid something unpleasant? no is his job relevant? possibly
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Is there some law involved?
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did he sneeze as a reaction to something (i.e. allergies, something tickled his nose, etc)? or did he force himself to sneeze?

did he really sneeze or did he want people to think he was sneezing?
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Does America stand for: the United States? yes North America? see previous answer North and South America? see previous answer
Or is the place more restricted yes: one state of the US? no one city? no
Are animals or plants living in America relevant? no or something geographical/geological? no
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Could this quite literally not happen anywhere but one particular area of America? Is this area smaller than a state? Smaller than a city? Are any laws relevant? If so, are these laws only in place in certain states? Did Jose gain financially from the sneeze? Gain in status? Was he trying to get people to move away from him? To disgust them? Is it relevant how many people were around him when he faked the sneeze? If so, 1? 2? 3?...? Any people relevant to this puzzle who weren't around?
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Is it to do with bowing to someone, say, in a sarcastic sense to a particular person?

Is other people/person involved?
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Could this quite literally not happen anywhere but one particular area of America? yesish Is this area smaller than a state? yes but there are many such areas Smaller than a city?ditto Are any laws relevant? yes If so, are these laws only in place in certain states? no Did Jose gain financially from the sneeze? no Gain in status? no Was he trying to get people to move away from him? no To disgust them? no Is it relevant how many people were around him when he faked the sneeze? yes If so, 1? 2? 3?...?Probably at least 100 & possibly thousands Any people relevant to this puzzle who weren't around? yes
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Is it to do with bowing to someone, say, in a sarcastic sense to a particular person? no

Is other people/person involved? yes
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The relationship between Jose and the other people involved: family? friends? colleagues? strangers?
Is a handkerchief relevant? a drug?
Did this happen inside? outside?
At a meeting? at a cultural (political? educational? sports?) event?

And I think you missed 'Booklovers' questions.
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Is the specific place a stadium? Another concert/entertainment venue? A public speaking event of some type? Is he in front of an audience? Did everyone around him notice the sneeze? If not, did anyone notice it?

Is he doing anything illegal? Could it be considered immoral? Is he uncertain what to do in this situation, so he sneezes instead?
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did he sneeze as a reaction to something (i.e. allergies, something tickled his nose, etc)? no or did he force himself to sneeze? no

did he really sneeze no or did he want people to think he was sneezing? yesish
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The relationship between Jose and the other people involved: family?possibly some but not all friends? ditto colleagues? maybe some strangers? possibly but not necessarily
Is a handkerchief relevant? no a drug? no
Did this happen inside? possibly outside? ditto
At a meeting? yope at a cultural yope (political? no educational? yes sports? no) event?

And I think you missed 'Booklovers' questions.
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Is the specific place a stadium? possible but unlikely Another concert\/entertainment venue? possibly A public speaking event of some type? yes Is he in front of an audience? yes Did everyone around him notice the sneeze? possibly If not, did anyone notice it? yes

Is he doing anything illegal? no Could it be considered immoral? by some but not all people Is he uncertain what to do in this situation, so he sneezes instead? no
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Did he want to delay something that he had to say? Was he expressing his disgust at something? Was he giving a speech? Singing a song? Performing something? Was he acting and the character in the play had to sneeze at that point?
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Did he want to delay something that he had to say? no Was he expressing his disgust at something? no Was he giving a speech? yes Singing a song? no Performing something? see previous answer but one Was he acting and the character in the play had to sneeze at that point? no
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Was the sneeze part of his speech? Did it somehow illustrate a point he was making? Would the audience have thought he had actually sneezed? Is he famous? An important person? Is it relevant at what point in his speech he sneezed? Is it relevant what the subject of the speech was?
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Was the sneeze part of his speech? yope or yesish Did it somehow illustrate a point he was making? no Would the audience have thought he had actually sneezed? Some would & some would notIs he famous? possibly but not necessarily An important person? yes or yesish Is it relevant at what point in his speech he sneezed? no Is it relevant what the subject of the speech was? yes
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would the people in the audience who knew that he didn't sneeze on purpose--would they have laughed? shook heads in agreement?
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would the people in the audience who knew that he didn't sneeze on purpose--would they have laughed?Remember, he did fake a sneeze on purpose. people in the audience who knew this would not have laughed shook heads in agreement? They would not have done this, either
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Did he write the speech himself?

Was the sneeze intended as a signal to some members of his audience?

Was the event being broadcast?
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Did he write the speech himself?{probably but not necessarily}

Was the sneeze intended as a signal to some members of his audience? yes

Was the event being broadcast? irrel
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Were those members a particular religious group? political group?
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Were those members a particular religious group? yes./ GOOOOOOOD QUESTION!! political group? yesish
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This was at an educational event?
Was the setting (not sure of the termonology here ... please correct any cultural errors..):
Pre-school?
Elementary school?
High School?
College?
University?
Adult education?

The particular religious group:
Christian?
Jewish?
Islamic?
Buddhist?
Hindu?
Sikh?
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This was at an educational event? yes
Was the setting (not sure of the termonology here ... please correct any cultural errors..):
Pre-school? no
Elementary school? possibly
High School? possibly
College? possibly
University? possibly
Adult education? unlikely

The particular religious group:
Christian? possibly
Jewish? possibly-- it was probably Christians &/or Jews
Islamic? unlikely
Buddhist? no
Hindu? no
Sikh?I don't klnow enough about this religion to say
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Monotheism relevant? Jesus Christ relevant? Angels relevant? Demons relevant? Any political issue (abortion, gay rights etc.) relevant?
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Monotheism relevant? yope Jesus Christ relevant? no--it would work as well with Jews--see above Angels relevant? no Demons relevant? no Any political issue (abortion, gay rights etc.) relevant? any political issue? yes. abortion or gay rights? no
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ten commandments?
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ten commandments?no. "Thou shalt not sneeze?"
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I was thinking more along the lines of "thou shalt not covet my sneezing abilities" :0)
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I was thinking more along the lines of "thou shalt not covet my sneezing abilities" :0) Sorry, but noooooooooo
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Is the bible relevant? any citation of the bible?
The political issue: is it specific to America? to the western world? to modern times (say the last decade)?
Which department of the US-government would the political issue mostly concern: State (foreign ministry)? Treasury? Defense? Justice? Interior?
Agriculture? Commerce? Labor? Health and Human Services? Housing and Urban Development? Transportation? Energy? Education? Veterans Affairs? Homeland Security?
Could this have happened: 1? 2? 5? 10? 20? 50? 100? 200? 500? 1000? 1000? years ago?
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Did he sneeze to avoid saying something? to switch the topics?
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Is the bible relevant? no any citation of the bible? no
The political issue: is it specific to America? yes to the western world? to modern times (say the last decade)?
Which department of the US-government would the political issue mostly concern: State (foreign ministry)? Treasury? Defense? Justice? Interior?
Agriculture? Commerce? Labor? Health and Human Services? Housing and Urban Development? Transportation? Energy? Education? Veterans Affairs? Homeland Security? justice is closest
Could this have happened: 1? 2? 5? 10? 20? 50? 100? 200? 500? 1000? 1000? years ago? It could have hasppened anytime after America became a country
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Did he sneeze to avoid saying something? no to switch the topics? yesish
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Was the sneeze a signal for the religious group to do something? Had Jose arranged with them beforehand that the sneeze meant this? Did the religious group know that Jose would sneeze? If so, did they know exactly when? Or did they just know that he would sneeze but didn't know at what point in the speech?
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Is the bible relevant? no any citation of the bible? no
The political issue: is it specific to America? yes to the western world? to modern times (say the last decade)?
Which department of the US-government would the political issue mostly concern: State (foreign ministry)? Treasury? Defense? Justice? Interior?
Agriculture? Commerce? Labor? Health and Human Services? Housing and Urban Development? Transportation? Energy? Education? Veterans Affairs? Homeland Security? justice is closest
Could this have happened: 1? 2? 5? 10? 20? 50? 100? 200? 500? 1000? 1000? years ago? It could have hasppened anytime after America became a country
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Did he sneeze to avoid saying something? no to switch the topics? yesish
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Was the sneeze a signal for the religious group to do something? yes Had Jose arranged with them beforehand that the sneeze meant this? Did the religious group know that Jose would sneeze? yesIf so, did they know exactly when? no Or did they just know that he would sneeze but didn't know at what point in the speech? yes
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Did they walk out? Make a noise? Interrupt his speech? Start applauding? Would what they did have shown support for the speech? Shown disagreement? Was this plan designed to show others that the religious group held particular views?
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Did they walk out? no Make a noise? yesish Interrupt his speech? yesish Start applauding? no Would what they did have shown support for the speech? no Shown disagreement? no Was this plan designed to show others that the religious group held particular views? yesish
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Did they issue a sneeze in response to Jose's?
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Did they issue a sneeze in response to Jose's? no
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Did this sneezing event happen on more than one occasion?

Was Jose a teacher? Lecturer? Priest? Politician?

How many minutes (in total) did Jose's speech last? Less than 5? 10? 15? 20? 25? 30? 35? ...

How many minutes into the speech was he when he sneezed? Less than 5? 10? 15? 20? 25? 30? 35? ...
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Did this sneezing event happen on more than one occasion?There would probably be only one sneeze per occasion but there could be more than one occasion

Was Jose a teacher?possibly Lecturer?
yesish Priest? possibly Politician? possibly

How many minutes (in total) did Jose's speech last? Less than 5? 10? 15? 20? 25? 30? 35? ... It could vary, but probably around 20

How many minutes into the speech was he when he sneezed? Less than 5? 10? 15? 20? 25? 30? 35? irrel
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Is he speaking entirely to members of this religion? Is he being broadcast in any way?

A guess: Is he hoping that they say God Bless You or any derivitave thereof? Is he trying to identify members of that religion in his audience?

The action they are supposed to take in response: is it to stand? To boo him? To say something specifically? If the latter, would they all be saying it at the same time? "Amen"?
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Ooh, ooh! As I follow my own winding train of thought to it's sensible conclusion...

Is it the case that in America, people are so inattentive in church (possibly during Superbowl Sunday?) that the pastor actually has to sneeze at the end of his sermon to make them look up and say Amen?
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Oh! I heard a story that in some American university they said the students couldn't thank God on their graduation speeches in case they offended members of other religions, but one guy sneezed and all his friends cried "God bless you"-following on from Antropofaga's idea, is this it?
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Is he speaking entirely to members of this religion? no Is he being broadcast in any way? irrel

A guess: Is he hoping that they say God Bless You or any derivitave thereof? yes!!!!! Is he trying to identify members of that religion in his audience no

The action they are supposed to take in response: is it to stand? no To boo him? noTo say something specifically? yes If the latter, would they all be saying it at the same time? yes "Amen"? no. It's "God bless you." See above.
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Ooh, ooh! As I follow my own winding train of thought to it's sensible conclusion...

Is it the case that in America, people are so inattentive in church (possibly during Superbowl Sunday?) that the pastor actually has to sneeze at the end of his sermon to make them look up and say Amen? irrel
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Oh! I heard a story that in some American university they said the students couldn't thank God on their graduation speeches yes in case they offended members of other religions no, but one guy sneezed and all his friends cried "God bless you"-following on from Antropofaga's idea, is this it? You're VERY ORT (on the right track), but you haven't identified what's distinctively American about this situation. After all, there are many countries in which mention of God at a graduation might offend someone. But Jose's particular reason is distinctively American
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Hrm...because the diversity of America ensures that not everyone in his audience believes in a single benevolent God? Is his own religion relevant? Any specific law involved? US history? Pop culture?
Athiesm/agnosticism relevant in any way? If so, is he athiest? Is his audience?
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Hrm...because the diversity of America ensures that not everyone in his audience believes in a single benevolent God? Thsat's not it--many bother societies are diverse in this way, but Jose's specific reason wouldn't apply to them Is his own religion relevant? As I mentioned, he's probably a Christian or a Jew (More likely a CCHristian--that's a HINT Any specific law involved? US history? yes Pop culture? no
Athiesm/agnosticism relevant in any way? noish If so, is he athiest? no Is his audience? not all but maybe some
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Is there a historical precedent that decides that the word "God" shouldn't be said in speeches? Only in this specific type of speech? Only at this school? If so, did something bad happen as a result of God being mentioned in the past? Is he quoting or paraphrasing a past speech?
Any famous American relevant? If so, colonial? Civil war? 20th century?
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Is there a historical precedent that decides that the word "God" shouldn't be said in speeches?see next answer Only in this specific type of speech? yesish Only at this school? no If so, did something bad happen as a result of God being mentioned in the past? no Is he quoting or paraphrasing a past speech? no
Any famous American relevant? noish If so, colonial? noish Civil war? no 20th century? no
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Is separation of Church and State relevant?
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I seem to recall vaguely that in some (if not all) parts of the United States, graduation speeches are actually vetted to make sure that they do not contain any references to God that are considered to be "proselytizing". Indeed, if memory serves, officials actually switched off the microphone during one graduation speech before the student could utter the word "Christ".

Is the idea that Joe faked his sneeze in order not to utter the name of his God and incur the wrath of his school authorities (and possibly the American Civil Liberties Union)? If that is the case, then God help America, although it is not immediately clear to me why He would bother.
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Is separation of Church and State relevant? YES!!!
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I seem to recall vaguely that in some (if not all) parts of the United States, graduation speeches are actually vetted to make sure that they do not contain any references to God that are considered to be "proselytizing". Indeed, if memory serves, officials actually switched off the microphone during one graduation speech before the student could utter the word "Christ".

Is the idea that Joe faked his sneeze in order not to utter the name of his God and incur the wrath of his school authorities (and possibly the American Civil Liberties Union)? It's not just the ACLU (of which I am a card-carrying member, although not much of an activist. (Like Oscar Wilde, I prefer to keep my evenings free.) America's separation of church & stare precludes prayer in public schools If that is the case, then God help America, although it is not immediately clear to me why He would bother. I disagree--I'm all for separating church & state & keeping proselytizing out of the public schools

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America's separation of church & state means you can't invoke God at a graduatioin speech in the public schools. So Jose, the speaker, & some confederates in the audience planned that he would fake a sneeze & they would yell,"God Bless You." N.B. The only public school I attended was high school. I appreciated being guaranteed no religious indoctrination.
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Oh, the separation of church and state is a splendid notion, and I wish we had it in England to some extent. But there is such a thing as going too far. It seems to me bizarre that a graduate, on an important occasion for him personally, should be able publicly to thank his teachers, his parents, his cocaine dealer and so forth - but not his God. I don't say that he should be allowed to preach a sermon, but a simple acknowledgement is surely perfectly in order.

Still, this is [part of] the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech[...]

and even today, more than two hundred years after Jefferson first used the term "wall of separation" between church and state, no one has a clue what the First Amendment means.
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Sorry, I'm all for telling the speaker to thank his God on his own time & not inflict his religion on the audience. And lots of people have much more than a clue about what the First Amendment means, although it is true that America does not apply the "wall of separation" consistently, even in the public schools. The Pledge of Allegience includes the words "under God" & it is legal to have an optional recitation of the pledge in the public schools, although it is illegal to require any student to recite the pledge.

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