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Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2007 - 7:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

When Jay wrote something critical of Eleanora, she got revenge by writing something favorable about him. How come?
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humans? adults? Jay=male?; Eleanora=female? Are they real people? fictional characters? Is this a true story? fmoi?

What Jay wrote: was it written in a book? was it a magazine article? newspaper article? newspaper editorial?

What Eleanora wrote: was it written in a book? was it a magazine article? newspaper article? newspaper editorial?

did Eleanora work with Jay? was Jay Eleanora's boss? was Eleanora Jay's boss? did they know each other personally?
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Had Jay built up a bad reputation, which Eleanora knocked down? Was Eleanora speaking sarcastically?
Is it relevant where the things were written? In a newspaper? Magazine? Privately?
Was Jay's criticism accurate? Was the favourable thing about Jay accurate?
Is it relevant what exactly Jay said about Eleanora? What exactly she said about him?
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humans? adults? yes Jay=male?; yes but irrel Eleanora=female? ditto Are they real people? possibly, although it would be an odd coincidence if these were their names fictional characters? possibly Is this a true story? possibly--I'm not sure fmoi? no

What Jay wrote: was it written in a book? yope or noish was it a magazine article? no newspaper article? no newspaper editorial? no

What Eleanora wrote: was it written in a book? was it a magazine article? newspaper article? newspaper editorial? same place as what Jay wrote

did Eleanora work with Jay? yes was Jay Eleanora's boss? yes was Eleanora Jay's boss? no did they know each other personally? yes
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Had Jay built up a bad reputation, which Eleanora knocked down? no Was Eleanora speaking sarcastically? no
Is it relevant where the things were written? yes In a newspaper? no Magazine? no Privately? noish
Was Jay's criticism accurate? yes Was the favourable thing about Jay accurate? yes
Is it relevant what exactly Jay said about Eleanora? yes What exactly she said about him? yes
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as Elenora's boss, did Jay write something about her in a memo? in a review?

did Elenora write something about Jay in a review?

did Jay want Eleanora fired? did he want to humiliate her? did he want her to change something about her work habits? appearance?

was Eleanora vying for Jay's job? a raise?
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Was Eleanora's comment taken to be a compliment to Jay? Or was it more ofa backhanded compliment? Would the comments have been read by many people? Would anyone reading Eleanora's writing have thought more of Jay? Or thought less of him? Was this just a private revenge that only Eleanora understood? If so, was this because she risked being fired if she outwardly got revenge aginst her boss? Was Jay's comment written in an evaluation of Eleanora's performance? In a reference?
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as Elenora's boss, did Jay write something about her in a memo? yes in a review? see previous answer

did Elenora write something about Jay in a review? well, also in a memo

did Jay want Eleanora fired? possiibly did he want to humiliate her? possibly did he want her to change something about her work habits? yes appearance? no

was Eleanora vying for Jay's job? no a raise? no
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Was Eleanora's comment taken to be a compliment to Jay? no Or was it more ofa backhanded compliment? yope Would the comments have been read by many people? possibly Would anyone reading Eleanora's writing have thought more of Jay? no Or thought less of him? masny would; some would not Was this just a private revenge that only Eleanora understood? noIf so, was this because she risked being fired if she outwardly got revenge aginst her boss? no Was Jay's comment written in an evaluation of Eleanora's performance? yes In a reference? no
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was Eleanora addressed specifically in the memo? or was did the memo address a general "group" of people, and Eleanora knew she was the reason that the memo was written?(for example, could the memo have read, "any employee doing "x"/ not doing "x" will be reprimanded")--something along these lines?

was Jay's comment about time management--how late Eleanora arrived at work? how early she left? how often/ how long she went on breaks? how long her lunch time was?

sloppy work? computer usage? playing on the computer instead of working? internet misusage? telephone usage--using it for private calls? not turning things in on time? not being a thorough worker? messiness (like her workspace)? did Jay think Eleanora was too loud? did Jay think Eleanora was rude? to him? to clients? to fellow workers?
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was Eleanora addressed specifically in the memo? yes or was did the memo address a general "group" of people, and Eleanora knew she was the reason that the memo was written?(for example, could the memo have read, "any employee doing "x"/ not doing "x" will be reprimanded")--something along these lines? no

was Jay's comment about time management--how late Eleanora arrived at work? how early she left? how often/ how long she went on breaks? how long her lunch time was? none of these

sloppy work? computer usage? playing on the computer instead of working? internet misusage? telephone usage--using it for private calls? not turning things in on time? not being a thorough worker? messiness (like her workspace)? did Jay think Eleanora was too loud? did Jay think Eleanora was rude? to him? to clients? to fellow workers? none of these either
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Were they writing poetry?
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was Jays comment about her personal appearance? behaviour? anything to do with work? anything to do with computer skills? hand-writing? spelling?
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Is it relevant whether Jay's criticism was funded in reality or not? If so, was it?

Did Eleonora write ONLY good things about him, or does she mention the fact that he as criticised her? (was thinking something like 'even though he gave be a bad review, he is a good boss/nice person/etc') The good things she wrote about him, would it still have a possible negative effect for him even if he hadn't written the bad things about her?
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Was Jay's and Eleanora's professions relevant? If so [LTPF list of professions]?

Is the fact that Jay noticed the negative fact that she wrote about Eleanora proof that Jay had done something wrong? (For example, they were construction workers, and Jay said that Eleanora wasn't as attractive as most of the pedestrians, and that meant that Jay was ogling pedestrians rather than doing his job.)

Is the fact that Eleanora was able to notice the positive fact that she wrote about Jay proof that Jay had done something wrong?

Did Eleanora want Jay to get promoted? So he wouldn't be her boss anymore?
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Were they writing poetry?
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was Jays comment about her personal appearance? no behaviour? yes anything to do with work? yesish anything to do with computer skills? nohand-writing? no spelling? no
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Is it relevant whether Jay's criticism was funded in reality or not? no If so, was it?

Did Eleonora write ONLY good things about him yes, or does she mention the fact that he as criticised her? (was thinking something like 'even though he gave be a bad review, he is a good boss/nice person/etc') no The good things she wrote about him, would it still have a possible negative effect for him even if he hadn't written the bad things about her? yes
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Was Jay's and Eleanora's professions relevant? yes If so [LTPF list of professions]? Where is this list??

Is the fact that Jay noticed the negative fact that she wrote about Eleanora proof that Jay had done something wrong? no (For example, they were construction workers, and Jay said that Eleanora wasn't as attractive as most of the pedestrians, and that meant that Jay was ogling pedestrians rather than doing his job.) nothing like this

Is the fact that Eleanora was able to notice the positive fact that she wrote about Jay proof that Jay had done something wrong? noish

Did Eleanora want Jay to get promoted? irrel So he wouldn't be her boss anymore? ditto
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are their jobs:

artistic/musical/writer?
Banking/financial/real estate?
Clerical/Administrative?
Computer related / Hardware ?
Construction / Craftsman ?
Education / Academic Research ?
Entertainment / Media ?
Executive / Management ?
Hospitality / Travel ?
Legal Services ?
Manufacturing / Distributions ?
Medical / Health Services ?
Politics / Government / Military ?
Sales / Marketing ?
Technical / Science / Engineering ?
Teaching / Child care?
Transportation ?
Food Service ?
Sports?
Entertainment?
Jailbird / Criminal?
Religion?
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are their jobs:

artistic/musical/writer?
Banking/financial/real estate?
Clerical/Administrative?
Computer related / Hardware ?
Construction / Craftsman ?
Education / Academic Research ?
Entertainment / Media ?
Executive / Management ?
Hospitality / Travel ?
Legal Services ?
Manufacturing / Distributions ?
Medical / Health Services ?
Politics / Government / Military ?
Sales / Marketing ?
Technical / Science / Engineering ?
Teaching / Child care?
Transportation ?
Food Service ?
Sports?
Entertainment?
Jailbird / Criminal?
Religion? The answer is military
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Was Jay...
...wounded in battle?
...killed in battle?
...someone who did something particularly heroic?

Was Eleanora...
...wounded in battle?
...killed in battle?
...someone who did something particularly heroic?
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Was Jay...
...wounded in battle?no
...killed in battle? no
...someone who did something particularly heroic? no

Was Eleanora...
...wounded in battle?no
...killed in battle? no
...someone who did something particularly heroic? no
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I think I know this one. Is the ships log relevant?
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I think I know this one. Is the ships log relevant? Yes. THis is a famous joke--I bet you do know it. Feel free to spoil it so I can post a new one!!
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OK here goes!
Eleanora was a first mate of some ship. One day, the captain(Jay} put in the ship's log "First mate was drunk today". The mate pleaded for him to take out the entry from the book but Jay was adament, saying that only the truth would be written. So how did Eleanora get revenge? When it was her time to write the log, she put,"Captain is sober today" to imply that the Captain usually is drunk!
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Was that a sp01ler?
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OK here goes!
Eleanora was a first mate of some ship. One day, the captain(Jay} put in the ship's log "First mate was drunk today". The mate pleaded for him to take out the entry from the book but Jay was adament, saying that only the truth would be written. So how did Eleanora get revenge? When it was her time to write the log, she put,"Captain is sober today" to imply that the Captain usually is drunk!
Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig) YES!!!!
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Was that a sp01ler?YES!! THat's the risk with using a famous joke. But please check out my new puzzle
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OK here goes!
Eleanora was a first mate of some ship. One day, the captain(Jay} put in the ship's log "First mate was drunk today". The mate pleaded for him to take out the entry from the book but Jay was adament, saying that only the truth would be written. So how did Eleanora get revenge? When it was her time to write the log, she put,"Captain is sober today" to imply that the Captain usually is drunk!
Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig) YES!!!!
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Was that a sp01ler?YES!! THat's the risk with using a famous joke. But please check out my new puzzle

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