| Author | Message | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 62 Registered: 5-2007 |
In this particular contest, losers are just as likely to win as winners. | ||
| Johan_gunardi (Johan_gunardi)
New member Username: Johan_gunardi Post Number: 52 Registered: 5-2007 |
Is it a sport contest? science contest? are the contestants humans? | ||
| Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member Username: Tobasi Post Number: 488 Registered: 8-2006 |
Are there several rounds of the contests? Who do you call a winner: someone who has won the same contest before? another contest? | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 66 Registered: 5-2007 |
Is it a sport contest? No science contest? No Actually, it's a sweepstakes. Calling it a "contest" might have been a little bit misleading. are the contestants humans? Yes Who do you call a winner: someone who has won the same contest before?No another contest?No | ||
| Livejackiilaugh (Livejackiilaugh)
New member Username: Livejackiilaugh Post Number: 4 Registered: 6-2007 |
is it a sweepstakes of chance? everyone has the same chance? | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 79 Registered: 5-2007 |
is it a sweepstakes of chance? everyone has the same chance? I'm not sure what you mean, but yes, every entry had an equal chance to win. | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 268 Registered: 4-2007 |
is there one prize in this sweepstakes? or other places, grand prize, first place, second place, third place...? important what the winnings are? money? trip? other tangible items--such as jewelry? should we focus on the odds of winning? is the "winner" simply the winner in this particular sweepstakes? are "losers" people who lost this particular sweepstake, or are you talking about people who generally don't win sweepstakes. have anything to do with gambling? like on horses? in the casino? is it a sweepstakes where you send in some sort of entry form? do you have to buy anything to win in the sweepstakes? (such as magazines) | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 86 Registered: 5-2007 |
is there one prize in this sweepstakes? or other places, grand prize, first place, second place, third place...? Irrelevant important what the winnings are? money? trip? other tangible items--such as jewelry? Irrelevant should we focus on the odds of winning? Not really is the "winner" simply the winner in this particular sweepstakes? In the phrase "losers are just as likely to win as winners" the person who "wins" is the person who wins this sweepstakes, but the word "winners" refers to something else. are "losers" people who lost this particular sweepstake, or are you talking about people who generally don't win sweepstakes. Neither have anything to do with gambling? like on horses? in the casino? is it a sweepstakes where you send in some sort of entry form? This last one do you have to buy anything to win in the sweepstakes? (such as magazines) Yope - explore. Focus on what you have to do to enter the sweepstakes. | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 613 Registered: 9-2003 |
do you have to buy something? a ticket? | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 92 Registered: 5-2007 |
do you have to buy something? Yes a ticket? No | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 620 Registered: 9-2003 |
do you have to buy an object? from a shop? can you buy it online? from a person in the street? is it smaller that a microwave? smaller than a book? | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 101 Registered: 5-2007 |
do you have to buy an object? Yes from a shop? for svv of "shop can you buy it online? I think so from a person in the street? no is it smaller that a microwave? yes smaller than a book? yes | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 625 Registered: 9-2003 |
is it smaller than a pen? smaller than a penny? is it made from a natural material? wood? metal? plastic? rubber? paper? glass? | ||
| Danaria789 (Danaria789)
New member Username: Danaria789 Post Number: 89 Registered: 3-2007 |
Long shot here. Would "winners" and "loosers" refer to last names or something on those lines? | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 110 Registered: 5-2007 |
is it smaller than a pen? Yes smaller than a penny? About the same size, maybe a little bit bigger is it made from a natural material? wood? metal? plastic? rubber? paper? Closest to this one, although I'm not sure if it's exactly paper glass? Long shot here. Would "winners" and "loosers" refer to last names or something on those lines? No | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 198 Registered: 4-2007 |
Are the items you buy to enter the sweepstakes as valuble as the prize? | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 114 Registered: 5-2007 |
Are the items you buy to enter the sweepstakes as valuble as the prize? No | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 640 Registered: 9-2003 |
is it some kind of token? do you have to do something with the item you buy? is a casino relevant? or something similar? | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 117 Registered: 5-2007 |
is it some kind of token? Depends on what you mean by "token". do you have to do something with the item you buy? Yes is a casino relevant? No or something similar? | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 645 Registered: 9-2003 |
well I just meant like a small disk of some sort which doesn't have value in its own right but which can be used to do something else? do you put the object into something? give it to someone? put it on something? next to something? do you swap it for something? does it have anything written on it? | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 122 Registered: 5-2007 |
well I just meant like a small disk of some sort which doesn't have value in its own right but which can be used to do something else? Not a small disk, but the rest of this is correct do you put the object into something? give it to someone? put it on something? Yes next to something? do you swap it for something? does it have anything written on it? Yes | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 296 Registered: 4-2007 |
is it an entry form where you actually are signing up to win something or a form where you are buying something (maybe for a low price). guess--is it one of these forms where you maybe buy something (lets say a certain amount of books for a very low price) and if you paste the token, sticker, stamp (whatever they give you) in a specified circle on the form, you can get a prize/gift of some sort (bookbag, mug, etc). important what the "token" has written on it? if so--does it say" extra prize? winner? | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 124 Registered: 5-2007 |
is it an entry form where you actually are signing up to win something or a form where you are buying something (maybe for a low price). No guess--is it one of these forms where you maybe buy something (lets say a certain amount of books for a very low price) and if you paste the token, sticker, stamp (whatever they give you) in a specified circle on the form, you can get a prize/gift of some sort (bookbag, mug, etc). No important what the "token" has written on it? Yes if so--does it say "extra prize? winner? No | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 648 Registered: 9-2003 |
does it have a word written on it? a number? symbol? a monetary value? a letter? 2? 3? 4? 5? | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 128 Registered: 5-2007 |
does it have a word written on it? Not usually a number?No symbol?No a monetary value?Yes a letter? 2? 3?Yes. It has 3 letters written on it, at least in the United States. It might be different in other countries. 4? 5? | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 204 Registered: 4-2007 |
Are "winers" and "loosers" depicted on postage stamps? | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 135 Registered: 5-2007 |
Are "winers" and "loosers" depicted on postage stamps? Yes, the item you have to buy to enter the contest is a postage stamp, but "winners" and "losers" are not depicted on them. | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 650 Registered: 9-2003 |
do you have to post something? or is the stamp itself special? can it be sold for a high amount of money on its own? | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1032 Registered: 6-2001 |
Could I enter the contest merely by buying a postage stamp? Would I have to affix the stamp to something to enter the contest? Does "winners" and "losers" refer to the people depicted on the postage stamp? (I'm thinking maybe there's some old Civil War generals on postage stamps or something, and stamps from either side are just as likely to win the sweepstake) The people entering the contest? | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 140 Registered: 5-2007 |
Could I enter the contest merely by buying a postage stamp? No Would I have to affix the stamp to something to enter the contest? Yes Does "winners" and "losers" refer to the people depicted on the postage stamp? No (I'm thinking maybe there's some old Civil War generals on postage stamps or something, and stamps from either side are just as likely to win the sweepstake) The people entering the contest? Yes Just to save time, I will reveal that all you ave to do to enter the contest is to buy a postage stamp, affix it to an envelope, and mail it in. Now you just have to figure out what "losers" and "winners" are. | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 579 Registered: 11-2003 |
Do you have to put anything at all inside the envelope? | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 9 Registered: 6-2007 |
are "losers" losers of weight? money? something else? is a "loser" the exact opposite of a "winner" does one need to be a "winner or a "loser" in order to enter the sweep? | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 144 Registered: 5-2007 |
Do you have to put anything at all inside the envelope? Just a note saying you want to enter the sweepstakes are "losers" losers of weight? money? something else? Something else is a "loser" the exact opposite of a "winner" Yes does one need to be a "winner or a "loser" in order to enter the sweep? No | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 20 Registered: 6-2007 |
is "the person who wins" randomly drawn? is winner and loser defined by this sweepstake? winners / losers are entrants? can one be a winner / loser before entering? winners and losers are people? who win/lose something of value? something tangible? property? do the winners gain the same object that the losers lose? | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 153 Registered: 5-2007 |
is "the person who wins" randomly drawn? Yes is winner and loser defined by this sweepstake? Not clear what you mean winners / losers are entrants? Most entrants are probably winners or losers, but it's possible to enter without being either, and it's possible to be a winner or a loser and never enter the sweepstakes. can one be a winner / loser before entering? Yes winners and losers are people? Yes who win/lose something of value? No something tangible? No property? No do the winners gain the same object that the losers lose?FA | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 27 Registered: 6-2007 |
are winners/losers defined by god? science? society? philosophy? self-evaluation? would the winners/losers have the same chance of winning any sweepstakes? is there any prerequisite to enter this sweepstakes? is it possible for the winner of the sweepstakes to be neither "winner" nor "loser"? | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 156 Registered: 5-2007 |
are winners/losers defined by god? science? society? philosophy? self-evaluation? No to all would the winners/losers have the same chance of winning any sweepstakes? Being a "winner" or a "loser" wouldn't affect any other sweepstakes is there any prerequisite to enter this sweepstakes? Noish is it possible for the winner of the sweepstakes to be neither "winner" nor "loser"? Yes | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 44 Registered: 6-2007 |
are the entrant's qualifications for this Sweepstakes in some way different from any garden variety sweepstakes? Does being a "winner" or a "loser" affect this sweepstakes? is there a name for this sweepstkaes? is it from yoi? you advised not to focus on any prizes.. is this sweepstakes some kind of metaphor for something else? does it differ from the Sweepstakes I know where you enter and your name is randomly drawn and the person who wins is awarded cash or goodies? do winners / loser win & lose... something? | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 159 Registered: 5-2007 |
are the entrant's qualifications for this Sweepstakes in some way different from any garden variety sweepstakes? No relevant qualifications are necessary to enter other than sending in the entry for. Does being a "winner" or a "loser" affect this sweepstakes? Noish is there a name for this sweepstakes? Irrelevant is it from yoi? ??? you advised not to focus on any prizes.. is this sweepstakes some kind of metaphor for something else? No. I just said it doesn't really matter what the prizes are. This was a while ago but I think the prizes were free T-shirts does it differ from the Sweepstakes I know where you enter and your name is randomly drawn and the person who wins is awarded cash or goodies? No do winners / loser win & lose... something? Not as in "gain possession of" and "lose possession of", but they do "win" and "lose" something | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 318 Registered: 4-2007 |
in this sweepstakes do the "winners" lose something and the "losers" gain something? | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 51 Registered: 6-2007 |
"win" as in "To achieve victory"? sports? war? contest? competition? do winners gain a title? status? bragging rights? | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 160 Registered: 5-2007 |
n this sweepstakes do the "winners" lose something and the "losers" gain something? No "win" as in "To achieve victory"? Yes sports? No war? No contest? No competition? Yes, for svv of "competition" do winners gain a title? status? bragging rights? Mostly the last one | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 665 Registered: 9-2003 |
and you don't have to send something in? or do anything? like maybe a poem? or just a line? just thinking maybe if you had to do something you could have some people doing it really well, and some people doing it so badly, the first get good prizes, the bad ones get a bad prize for being so bad? ones in between get nothing | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 169 Registered: 5-2007 |
and you don't have to send something in? You have to sned something in to be eligible for the sweepstakes, but not to beome a "winner" or "loser" or do anything? See previous answer like maybe a poem? No or just a line? No just thinking maybe if you had to do something you could have some people doing it really well, and some people doing it so badly, the first get good prizes, the bad ones get a bad prize for being so bad? ones in between get nothing Nothing like that | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 75 Registered: 6-2007 |
is one born winner or loser? Once one has become a winner or loser can the status change? If your sweepstakes was substituted with "publisher's clearinghouse" sweepstakes would the puzzle be the same? | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 172 Registered: 5-2007 |
is one born winner or loser? No Once one has become a winner or loser can the status change? Yesish If your sweepstakes was substituted with "publisher's clearinghouse" sweepstakes would the puzzle be the same? For the definitions of "winner" and "loser" in the puzzle statement, the statement that "losers are just as likely to win as winners" is true in any sweepstakes. But only in this particular sweepstakes is that fact at all notable. | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 183 Registered: 5-2007 |
Okay, since this puzzle seems to have dried up, I will post the SPOILER: In the United States, companies running sweepstakes must make the sweepstakes open to anyone who wishes to enter: they may not require you to purchase a product as a condition for entry (because if you had to, it would be considered gambling). Generally, this restriction is circumvented by requiring each request for an entry to be sent in a separate envelop. Since the expected value of one entry is usually far less than the cost of an envelope and postage, few bother. This particular sweepstakes was a sweepstakes on a video arcade machine where if you beat the game (became a "winner") you would be given a code which you could mail in to be entered in the sweepstakes. But in order to comply with the above mentioned law, you could also enter by sending a plain envelope with a request for entry, and no code. Hence "losers" of the game could enter the sweepstakes, and win, just as easily as "winners". |
