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| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2408 Registered: 8-2001 |
When Demelza moved to a new city, she abandoned her old hobby & kept her former involvement in it a secret, although there was nothimg shameful about it. How come?? | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1013 Registered: 6-2001 |
Was the new city in the same country as the old one? Is it relevant what country either city is in? Is it relevant what the hobby is? is it normally done outdoors? Indoors? Does it involve any equipment? expensive equipment? computers? Is it relevant why she moved to a different city? Is her job relevant? Her age? | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 202 Registered: 4-2007 |
Was it related to sports? crafts? arts? literature? socializing? science? charity? just a way to spend free time? It was not shameful, but was it unpopular? prohibited? socially unacceptable? in the new city. Or was it so popular that she though her skill level was not adequate to compete with locals? Could she continue if she wanted to? Is it important that she moved from city to city, or will "from an old place to a new one" work as well? | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 126 Registered: 5-2007 |
Demelza = human? adult? female? Was she worried that... ...someone might make a particular inference about her because of the hobby? about her personality? beliefs? skills? wealth? social status? ...someone might mistake participating in the hobby for something else? ...she would be in danger if she participated in the hobby? Were the old city and the new city different in any significant way? If so, was that way related to... ...geography? ...climate? ...size? ...demographics? ...local laws and regulations? ...crime? ...If the two cities were in different countries, laws and regulations at the country level? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2415 Registered: 8-2001 |
rm (Bentarm) New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1013 Registered: 6-2001 Posted on Saturday, June 16, 2007 - 12:15 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Was the new city in the same country as the old one? Is it relevant what country either city is in? Is it relevant what the hobby is? is it normally done outdoors? Indoors? Does it involve any equipment? expensive equipment? computers? Is it relevant why she moved to a different city? Is her job relevant? Her age? Emeraldink (Emeraldink) New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 202 Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Saturday, June 16, 2007 - 7:05 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Was it related to sports? no crafts? yes arts? yes literature?no socializing? no science? no charity? no just a way to spend free time? no It was not shameful, but was it unpopular? no prohibited? no socially unacceptable? no in the new city. Or was it so popular that she though her skill level was not adequate to compete with locals? no Could she continue if she wanted to? yes Is it important that she moved from city to city yes, or will "from an old place to a new one" work as well?no | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2416 Registered: 8-2001 |
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 126 Registered: 5-2007 Posted on Saturday, June 16, 2007 - 7:28 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Demelza = human? yes adult? yes female? yes but irrel Was she worried that... ...someone might make a particular inference about her because of the hobby? yes about her personality? no beliefs? noskills? yesish wealth? no social status? no ...someone might mistake participating in the hobby for something else?noish ...she would be in danger if she participated in the hobby? yes Were the old city and the new city different in any significant way? no If so, was that way related to... ...geography? ...climate? ...size? ...demographics? ...local laws and regulations? ...crime? ...If the two cities were in different countries, laws and regulations at the country level? Nimue (Nimue) New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2415 Registered: 8-2001 Posted on Saturday, June 16, 2007 - 11:09 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) rm (Bentarm) New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1013 Registered: 6-2001 Posted on Saturday, June 16, 2007 - 12:15 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Was the new city in the same country as the old one?yes Is it relevant what country either city is in? somewhat. This would work for the USA; I'm not sure where else, but it would probably work for many countries Is it relevant what the hobby is? yes is it normally done outdoors? noish Indoors? yes Does it involve any equipment? yes expensive equipment? yes computers? no Is it relevant why she moved to a different city? no Is her job relevant? no Her age? yesish Emeraldink (Emeraldink) New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 202 Registered: 4-2007 | ||
| Sparkplug1 (Sparkplug1)
New member Username: Sparkplug1 Post Number: 4 Registered: 6-2007 |
was there any contest for this hobby in that city? hobby: sewing baking cooking scrapbook Involves: paper cloth food if she participated could she be killed? injured? stolen from? was she well known? | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 129 Registered: 5-2007 |
Would she be in danger of... ...physical harm? ...monetary loss? loss of property? ...identity theft? ...being arrested? ...being fired from her job? Would she be in danger if she participated in the hobby because... ...she could become the victim of a crime? ...in participating in the hobby, she would be committing a crime? ...in participating in the hobby, she could do something that would make it appear she was committing a crime? ...an accident could occur while she was participating in the hobby? ...someone else might expect her to do something that she can't actually do? ...someone else might feel in danger from her, and harm her in self-defense? You said that the hobby was related to arts and crafts. Does it entail producing a finished product from raw materials? (e.g. producing a painting from a canvas and paint.) ...Are the raw materials dangerous? illegal? something undesirable to have? ...Are the finished products dangerous? illegal? something undesirable to have? ...Are the tools and equipment needed dangerous? illegal? something undesirable to have? ...Does it matter what she does with the finished products after producing them? Does she sell them? Put them on display? In a public place? Is weaponry of any kind relevant? Swords? Knives? Guns? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2418 Registered: 8-2001 |
Sparkplug1 (Sparkplug1) New member Username: Sparkplug1 Post Number: 4 Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Sunday, June 17, 2007 - 1:06 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) was there any contest for this hobby in that city? irrel hobby: sewing baking cooking scrapbook none of those Involves: paper cloth food none of those if she participated could she be killed? yes injured? yes stolen from? yes was she well known? no | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2419 Registered: 8-2001 |
Alex319 (Alex319) New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 129 Registered: 5-2007 Posted on Sunday, June 17, 2007 - 1:14 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Would she be in danger of... ...physical harm? yes ...monetary loss? yes loss of property? yes ...identity theft? no ...being arrested? yes ...being fired from her job? yes Would she be in danger if she participated in the hobby because... ...she could become the victim of a crime? noish ...in participating in the hobby, she would be committing a crime? no ...in participating in the hobby, she could do something that would make it appear she was committing a crime? yes ...an accident could occur while she was participating in the hobby?irrel ...someone else might expect her to do something that she can't actually do? no ...someone else might feel in danger from her, and harm her in self-defense? no You said that the hobby was related to arts and crafts. Does it entail producing a finished product from raw materials? yes (e.g. producing a painting from a canvas and paint.) ...Are the raw materials dangerous? no illegal? no something undesirable to have? ...Are the finished products dangerous? illegal? something undesirable to have? no ...Are the tools and equipment needed dangerous? yesish illegal? no something undesirable to have? yope ...Does it matter what she does with the finished products after producing them? yes Does she sell them? yes Put them on display? yes In a public place? yes Is weaponry of any kind relevant? noish Swords? no Knives? noGuns? no | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 133 Registered: 5-2007 |
Is the crime that she could appear to be committing: assault? battery? black market? blackmail? extortion? breach of contract? burglary? trespass? computer crime? destroying property? vandalism? arson? eco-crime? poacher? cruelty to animals? forgery? counterfeiting? fraud? cardsharper? embezzlement? homicide? murder? manslaughter? accidental killing? identity theft? illegal gambling? illegal possesion or trade of objects or substances (weapons, drugs, ...)? inchoate offense? kidnapping? libel? menace? negligence? failure to render assistance? perjury? sexual offenses? sexual assault? smuggling? stealing? pickpocketing? looting? robbery? larceny? piracy? subversive activities? dissident? incitement of the people? terrorism? traffic offence? treason? disertion? espionage? unfair competition? violation of intellectual property rights or copyrights? violation of privacy? stalking? disrupting the peace? harassment? war crime? white-collar crime? evasion? | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 206 Registered: 4-2007 |
Does her hobby involve ironworks? religious artifacts? occult? astrology? native ( pre-Christian ) crafts? animals? Is one historic period more likely for this to happen? | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1024 Registered: 6-2001 |
Is it likely that she would be arrested for the crime that people would think she'd committed? Convicted of it? That people would take some sort of vigilante revenge? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2421 Registered: 8-2001 |
Alex319 (Alex319) New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 133 Registered: 5-2007 Posted on Sunday, June 17, 2007 - 2:00 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is the crime that she could appear to be committing: It's murder assault? battery? black market? blackmail? extortion? breach of contract? burglary? trespass? computer crime? destroying property? vandalism? arson? eco-crime? poacher? cruelty to animals? forgery? counterfeiting? fraud? cardsharper? embezzlement? homicide? murder? manslaughter? accidental killing? identity theft? illegal gambling? illegal possesion or trade of objects or substances (weapons, drugs, ...)? inchoate offense? kidnapping? libel? menace? negligence? failure to render assistance? perjury? sexual offenses? sexual assault? smuggling? stealing? pickpocketing? looting? robbery? larceny? piracy? subversive activities? dissident? incitement of the people? terrorism? traffic offence? treason? disertion? espionage? unfair competition? violation of intellectual property rights or copyrights? violation of privacy? stalking? disrupting the peace? harassment? war crime? white-collar crime? evasion? Emeraldink (Emeraldink) New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 206 Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Sunday, June 17, 2007 - 4:20 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Does her hobby involve ironworks? no religious artifacts? no occult? no astrology? no native ( pre-Christian ) crafts?yesish or yope animals? no Is one historic period more likely for this to happen?I'm not sure how far back this could go, but no doubt pretty far Bentarm (Bentarm) New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1024 Registered: 6-2001 Posted on Monday, June 18, 2007 - 1:12 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is it likely that she would be arrested for the crime that people would think she'd committed? yes Convicted of it? Quite possibly That people would take some sort of vigilante revenge? not especially | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 141 Registered: 5-2007 |
You said that it matters that the place she moved from and the place he moved to were cities and that just "from one place to another" wouldn't do, but that there were no significant differences between the two cities. Correct? Would the puzzle work is she moved... ...from a rural area to a rural area? ...from a rural area to a city? ...from a city to a rural area? If the answer to any of the above is "no", the relevant difference between cities and rural areas: ...geography? ...climate? ...size? ...demographics? ...local laws and regulations? ...crime? Would others think she would have committed murder because of something they would... ,,,see? ...hear? ...smell? ...taste? ...touch? Would others thing she would have committed murder by observing... ...the raw materials? ...the finished products? ...the tools and equipment? ...her in the process of doing it? | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 215 Registered: 4-2007 |
Is witchcraft ( in any of it's reincarnations ) relevant? healing? assisted suicide? carving of human bones? Would there be direct evidence of murder? indirect evidence? "missing people"? How old is she? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2426 Registered: 8-2001 |
Alex319 (Alex319) New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 141 Registered: 5-2007 Posted on Tuesday, June 19, 2007 - 3:45 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) You said that it matters that the place she moved from and the place he moved to were cities and that just "from one place to another" wouldn't do, but that there were no significant differences between the two cities. Correct? yes Would the puzzle work is she moved... ...from a rural area to a rural area? yes ...from a rural area to a city? yes ...from a city to a rural area? yes If the answer to any of the above is "no", the relevant difference between cities and rural areas: ...geography? ...climate? ...size? ...demographics? ...local laws and regulations? ...crime? Would others think she would have committed murder because of something they would... ,,,see? yes ...hear?possibly ...smell? no ...taste? no ...touch? possibly Would others thing she would have committed murder by observing... ...the raw materials? no ...the finished products? possibly ...the tools and equipment? yes ...her in the process of doing it? yes Emeraldink (Emeraldink) New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 215 Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Tuesday, June 19, 2007 - 6:25 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is witchcraft ( in any of it's reincarnations ) relevant? no healing? no assisted suicide? no carving of human bones? no Would there be direct evidence of murder? no indirect evidence? yes "missing people"? yope How old is she?over 17-18 & probably an adult. No upper age limit | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 15 Registered: 6-2007 |
was Demelza in danger in the old city? was her hobby a known hobby? did she apply this hobby in an unusual way? could she practice her hobby alone ir did it require other people? could all the basic materials for her hobby be purchased at a common craft store? is it likely that anyone would admire her work? | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 147 Registered: 5-2007 |
Were the tools and equipment she used... ...something designed to be used as a weapon? ...something commonly used as a murder weapon? ...something that could easily be mistaken for something commonly used as a murder weapon? Does she destroy anything in the process of performing her hobby? Are explosives relevant? Demolitions? Terrorism? | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 220 Registered: 4-2007 |
Does she help people change their appearance? | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 594 Registered: 4-2007 |
Is the name of either city relevant? Its history? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2431 Registered: 8-2001 |
tyeight (Sixtyeight) New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 15 Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2007 - 12:09 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) was Demelza in danger in the old city?no was her hobby a known hobby? yes did she apply this hobby in an unusual way? no could she practice her hobby alone no ir did it require other people? no could all the basic materials for her hobby be purchased at a common craft store?I doubt it is it likely that anyone would admire her work? yes Alex319 (Alex319) New member Username: Alex319 Post Number: 147 Registered: 5-2007 Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2007 - 1:15 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Were the tools and equipment she used... ...something designed to be used as a weapon? no ...something commonly used as a murder weapon? no ...something that could easily be mistaken for something commonly used as a murder weapon? no Does she destroy anything in the process of performing her hobby? no Are explosives relevant? no Demolitions? no Terrorism? no Emeraldink (Emeraldink) New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 220 Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2007 - 4:56 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Does she help people change their appearance? no Enjay (Enjay) New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 594 Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2007 - 5:14 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is the name of either city relevant? no Its history? no | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 60 Registered: 6-2007 |
Could Demelza have found another city ot live in where her hobby was would be more accepted? did her hobby give the false impression that she was murdering people? animals? if I observed her doing her hobby, I would see her with another person? she would appear to be murdering another person? did she practice the hobby in her home? does she work with cadavers? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2435 Registered: 8-2001 |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight) New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 60 Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 3:00 am: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Could Demelza have found another city ot live in where her hobby was would be more accepted? did her hobby give the false impression that she was murdering people?no animals?no if I observed her doing her hobby, I would see her with another person?no she would appear to be murdering another person?no did she practice the hobby in her home?yes does she work with cadavers no | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 125 Registered: 6-2007 |
Her hobby is an ancient one? or it has ancient elements? Explore geographical region? She was creating art? if so Is it the kind that would shock general audiences? is the art painted? does it invlove any biological materials (body parts, blood, hair)? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2445 Registered: 8-2001 |
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Her hobby is an ancient one? I think it goes back to ancient times or it has ancient elements?see previous answer Explore geographical region?\b{no} She was creating art? yesif so Is it the kind that would shock general audiences? no is the art painted? no does it invlove any biological materials (body parts, blood, hair)? no}Explore geographical region? She was creating art? yes if so Is it the kind that would shock general audiences? no is the art painted? no does it invlove any biological materials (body parts, blood, hair)? no | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 133 Registered: 6-2007 |
So the art was not macabre? would the art be one dimensional.. like a painting? 3 dimensional.. like a sculpture? larger? smaller? ...than a common door? would her tools fit in a common oven? does she use heat? glue? clay? salt? a chisel? a hammer? thread? leather? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2448 Registered: 8-2001 |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight) New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 133 Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 3:36 am: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So the art was not macabre? yes, it's not would the art be one dimensional.. like a painting? no 3 dimensional.. like a sculpture? yes larger? smaller? ...than a common door? most likely smaller would her tools fit in a common oven? no does she use heat? yes glue? no clay? yessalt? a chisel? possibly a hammer? nothread? no leather? no | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 153 Registered: 6-2007 |
wood materials? Does she make things out of clay? pottery? figurines? does she use a kiln? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2453 Registered: 8-2001 |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight) New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 153 Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2007 - 2:23 pm: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- wood materials? no Does she make things out of clay? yes pottery?possibly figurines? ditto does she use a kiln? yes | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
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You now have all the information you need to solve the puzzle! | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
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not sure if it was asked.. is time period critical? would the story work today? If she moved to New York City would the puzzle work? does she use a pottery wheel? just to clarify previous questions: could she practice her hobby alone? did it require other people? could someone looking through her window as she made her craft mistake her for murdering a person? could someone looking through her window as she made her craft mistake her for murdering a person? are there any other people relevant in her hobby? any relevant culture? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
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By Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight) on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 4:21 am: Edit Post not sure if it was asked.. is time period critical? no would the story work today? yes If she moved to New York City would the puzzle work? yes does she use a pottery wheel? irrel just to clarify previous questions: could she practice her hobby alone? yes did it require other people? no could someone looking through her window as she made her craft mistake her for murdering a person? no could someone looking through her window as she made her craft mistake her for murdering a person? no are there any other people relevant in her hobby? no any relevant culture? no | ||
| Alex319 (Alex319)
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Is it that it would look like the kiln was used to cremate bodies of murder victims? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
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By Alex319 (Alex319) on Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 4:41 am: Edit Post Is it that it would look like the kiln was used to cremate bodies of murder victims? Yes!! ****************** SPOILER ***************** When Demelza moved to a new city, she was planning to murder someone there. So she stopped exhibiting her pottery, because she didn't want people to know she had a kiln...since she was planning to creamte her victim there. Thanks for solving it & please check out my new puzzle at the bottom of the page |
