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Sundowner (Sundowner)
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Posted on Wednesday, June 27, 2007 - 11:35 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

.. is a pub with no beer.

Real life still provides the best of all lateral puzzles. So here we go with one.
(You might have heard of this story, it was in the news.)


A woman takes off her clothes. Two days later the local pub experiences a shortage of beer.
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Posted on Wednesday, June 27, 2007 - 1:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does she take her clothes off in the pub? or someplace where one does not normally take off clothes?
is the shortage due to an increase in consumption? short supply?
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Posted on Wednesday, June 27, 2007 - 1:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does she take her clothes off in the pub? No.
or someplace where one does not normally take off clothes? No.
is the shortage due to an increase in consumption? short supply? This one.
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Did her taking off her clothes prevent a delivery to the pub?
Did she take off her clothes in public? In the company of one other person? 2? 3?
Is it relevant how long she was naked for after taking off her clothes?
Was she photographed without her clothes on?
Sundowner (Sundowner)
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Posted on Wednesday, June 27, 2007 - 3:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did her taking off her clothes prevent a delivery to the pub? No.
Did she take off her clothes in public? No.
In the company of one other person? No. 2? 3?
Is it relevant how long she was naked for after taking off her clothes? No.
Was she photographed without her clothes on? No.
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Posted on Wednesday, June 27, 2007 - 3:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Wild guess.. Beer delivery driver is driving along on his route when through a window of a house he observes a lady undressing. Needless to say his eyes aren't on the road so he crashes destroying his cargo causing a short term shortage of beer in the locality.
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Posted on Wednesday, June 27, 2007 - 6:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Wild guess.. Beer delivery driver is driving along on his route when through a window of a house he observes a lady undressing. Needless to say his eyes aren't on the road so he crashes destroying his cargo causing a short term shortage of beer in the locality. OK, this is the last one in a chain of events. The beer driver crashes and destroys a truck load of beer. But the reasons for the crash are completely different.
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Did the woman take off all her clothes?
Is it relevant where she was?
What she did with her clothes when she took them off?
Sundowner (Sundowner)
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Did the woman take off all her clothes? Yes.
Is it relevant where she was? Yes.
What she did with her clothes when she took them off? Yes.
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Posted on Wednesday, June 27, 2007 - 7:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did anyone see her taking her clothes off? Or after she had taken them off? Was somebody distracted by the sight? Was she at home? Is it relevant why she took her clothes off? To change? To have a bath?
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Is it relevant that after she had taken her clothes off she was naked?
Did she wash her clothes? destroy them?
Could she have achieved the same effect by taking a spare set of clothes out of her wardrobe and placing them where she placed her clothes in the actual story?
Just to clarify - was she alone when she took her clothes off?
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Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 2:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did a person in another car see the woman take off her clothes and crash? and the beer truck crashed into this car?

is she inside? in her house?
is she outside? in her yard? on the roof?

was she sunbathing? doing a striptease? had she done a load of laundry, put them to dry on a line outside and changed into new clothes in her yard?

I don't know if anyone asked, but is the woman a human? adult? female?

is it a live woman or a woman in a picture (if picture--magazine? cell phone? television? dvd player?) and if picture, was a driver looking at woman on any of these?
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Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 4:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did anyone see her taking her clothes off? No.
Or after she had taken them off? No.
Was somebody distracted by the sight? No.
Was she at home? Yes.
Is it relevant why she took her clothes off? Not really.
To change? Could be this. To have a bath? Or this.
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Is it relevant that after she had taken her clothes off she was naked? No.
Did she wash her clothes? No. destroy them? Yope.
Could she have achieved the same effect by taking a spare set of clothes out of her wardrobe and placing them where she placed her clothes in the actual story? Yes -- good question.
Just to clarify - was she alone when she took her clothes off? Yes.
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did a person in another car see the woman take off her clothes and crash? No.
and the beer truck crashed into this car? No.

is she inside? Yes. in her house? Yes.
is she outside? in her yard? on the roof?

was she sunbathing? No.
doing a striptease? Probably not.
had she done a load of laundry, put them to dry on a line outside and changed into new clothes in her yard? No.

I don't know if anyone asked, but is the woman a human? Yes. adult? Yes. female? As a matter of fact, yes.

is it a live woman or a woman in a picture (if picture--magazine? A live one.
cell phone? television? dvd player?) and if picture, was a driver looking at woman on any of these? So, no.
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Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 4:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did she throw any item of her clothes away? underwear? clothes for her lower body? clothes for her upper body? did she put them in the bin? throw them out the window? give them to charity?

did the driver see the clothes? did he think there was a naked woman about?
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did she throw any item of her clothes away? Yes.
underwear? Yes.
clothes for her lower body? No.
clothes for her upper body? No.
did she put them in the bin? No.
throw them out the window? No.
give them to charity? No.

did the driver see the clothes? No.
did he think there was a naked woman about? So, no.
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Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 5:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

so, the beer truck does wreck at some point, but not because of the woman, correct?

is there a car crash at all? was the woman involved? if so, was she in the wreck? had she soiled her underwear by any chance? because of this wreck?
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Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 5:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did she put her underwear somewhere in her house? in a bag? under something? did the underwear somehow get outside? did someone other than her move her underwear?
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Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 6:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did someone else see the lingerie she disposed of?

Is it relevant how she threw it away?
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Is she related to the driver?
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Posted on Friday, June 29, 2007 - 2:32 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the beer truck driver..

collide with another vehicle?
collide with an object?
become unable to operate the truck?
get lost?
get distracted?
crash due to road conditions?
get injured? killed?
crash due to sleep?
have a relavant relationship with another person in the puzzle?

was there a malfunction of the truck?
is there a relavant item which caused the crash of the beer truck?

does the local pub play a part in the puzzle other than being the subject of a beer shortage?

was the clothing removed in her bedroom?
did the woman throw away any item of clothing other than underwear?
did the woman remove any item of clothing other than underwear?
was the underwear immediately discarded after removal?
does throw away mean actually throw?.. or place in a refuse receptacle?
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Posted on Friday, June 29, 2007 - 8:03 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

so, the beer truck does wreck at some point, Yes. but not because of the woman, correct? Because of something she did.

is there a car crash at all? Yes, the beer truck.
was the woman involved? Not directly.
if so, was she in the wreck? No.
had she soiled her underwear by any chance? No.
because of this wreck?

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did she put her underwear somewhere in her house? Yes.
in a bag? No.
under something? No(ish).
did the underwear somehow get outside? Yes.
did someone other than her move her underwear? No.
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Did someone else see the lingerie she disposed of? Eventually, yes. (but not the beer driver)

Is it relevant how she threw it away? Yes. Very much so.
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Is she related to the driver? No.

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Did the beer truck driver..

collide with another vehicle? No.
collide with an object? Yes(ish).
become unable to operate the truck? Yes, because the truck wrecked.
get lost? No.
get distracted? No.
crash due to road conditions? Yes.
get injured? Possibly.
killed? No.
crash due to sleep? No.
have a relavant relationship with another person in the puzzle? No.

was there a malfunction of the truck? No.
is there a relavant item which caused the crash of the beer truck? Yope.

does the local pub play a part in the puzzle other than being the subject of a beer shortage? No.

was the clothing removed in her bedroom? Possibly.
did the woman throw away any item of clothing other than underwear? No.
did the woman remove any item of clothing other than underwear? Yes, she undressed completely. But only what she did with the underwear is relevant.
was the underwear immediately discarded after removal? Yes.
does throw away mean actually throw? Yes (for appropriate interpretation of "throw").. or place in a refuse receptacle? Not this.
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Posted on Friday, June 29, 2007 - 9:23 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did she mean to take the underwear out of her house? was the underwear in anything? mixed up with anything?

apart from the driver and the woman is there 1 other person involved? 2? 3? 4? 5?
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Posted on Friday, June 29, 2007 - 10:27 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did she mean to take the underwear out of her house? Yope. ("take" is perhaps not the right word)
was the underwear in anything? Yes.
mixed up with anything? Yes.

apart from the driver and the woman is there 1 other person involved? 2? 3? 4? 5? Nobody else was involved in the events that led to the crash. Several people were involved in cleaning up the road after the crash (but this is not really relevant for the puzzle).
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Posted on Friday, June 29, 2007 - 11:53 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ok hmm she undressed in the house? decided she didn't like her underwear any more and needed to throw them out? but she didn't put them in any rubbish bin? or any bin bag? did she put them in with her laundry still? did she mean to put them in a bin? or bin bag? did she put them back on at any point?
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Posted on Friday, June 29, 2007 - 12:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did a bird pick up and item of the underwear and try and fly off with it to line her nest but dropped it on the windscreen of the beer truck?
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Posted on Friday, June 29, 2007 - 12:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

when she removed the item was she in the:
bedroom?
living room?
office?
kitchen?
bathroom?
garage?
laundry room?

is it relavant where in her house the underwear
landed after it was thrown?

did it land in the:
bedroom?
living room?
office?
kitchen?
bathroom?
garage?
laundry room?


what it landed on?
did she intend to never see it again?
does she have any relevant pets?
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Did she threw her underwear on the street? Were there any sharp parts in the underwear which could've punctured the wheels of the beer truck? Did she threw her underwear out of the window, and accidently fell out of it? Is the woman hurt? Dead?
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ok hmm she undressed in the house? Yes.
decided she didn't like her underwear any more and needed to throw them out? Yes.
but she didn't put them in any rubbish bin? She did not.
or any bin bag? Neither in a bin bag.
did she put them in with her laundry still? No.
did she mean to put them in a bin? No.
or bin bag? Neither.
did she put them back on at any point? No.

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Did a bird pick up and item of the underwear and try and fly off with it to line her nest but dropped it on the windscreen of the beer truck? Good thought, but no.

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when she removed the item was she in the:
bedroom? Could be this one.
living room? Or this one.
office? Not this one.
kitchen? Possibly, but unlikely.
bathroom? Most likely.
garage? Unlikely.
laundry room? Equally unlikely.

is it relavant where in her house the underwear
landed after it was thrown? Yes, very much so.

did it land in the:
bedroom?
living room?
office?
kitchen?
bathroom? here, explore.
garage?
laundry room?


what it landed on? This is relevant, too.
did she intend to never see it again? Yes.
does she have any relevant pets? No.

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Did she threw her underwear on the street? No.
Were there any sharp parts in the underwear which could've punctured the wheels of the beer truck? No.
Did she threw her underwear out of the window, and accidently fell out of it? No.
Is the woman hurt? No.
Dead? No.
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did she stuff them down the toilet? and flush?
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Did the underwear ( I do prefer "lingerie" :-) land on some object and obscure driver's vision? on a traffic sign? traffic light? roadside marking? pothole?

Incidentally, was it a top or a bottom that got entangled into this story?
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Posted on Thursday, July 05, 2007 - 8:33 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did she stuff them down the toilet? Yes. and flush? Yes.
(why ... only women can have an idea like this ... ;))

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Did the underwear ( I do prefer "lingerie" :-) land on some object and obscure driver's vision? No.
on a traffic sign? No.
traffic light? No.
roadside marking? No.
pothole? No.

Incidentally, was it a top or a bottom that got entangled into this story? Both, actually. But probably irrelevant.
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does the underwear cause a blockage? does the road flood? does her house flood?
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Does the underwear exit the house via plumbing?
was the underwear somehow the cause of the crash?
is the woman at all relevant after the disposal of the underwear?
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does the underwear cause a blockage? Yes.
does the road flood? Yes.
does her house flood? Yes.

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Does the underwear exit the house via plumbing? Yes.
was the underwear somehow the cause of the crash? Yes, indirectly.
is the woman at all relevant after the disposal of the underwear? No.
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Posted on Monday, July 09, 2007 - 7:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

That's worth a ...
SPOILER

A woman takes off her clothes. Two days later the local pub experiences a shortage of beer.

The woman undressed to take a shower, and for reasons that will perhaps remain a secret to all sensible people, she flushed her underwear down the toilet. The lingerie went the way designed for this case and eventually clogged a sewage pipe some yards away from the house, just under the main road of the village. Heavy rain the other day led the pipe to bursting and the water washed away the ground under the road. And the road, now lacking support from beneath, finally collapsed under the weight of the beer truck.

12 days for this puzzle .. that's a quickie!
Thanks for bringing it to the deserved end.

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