| Author | Message | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
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Next time I think I'll have the green salad | ||
| Eli (Eli)
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Did you have something else to eat than the green salad? If so, relevant what you had? Location relevant? | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
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were you in a restaurant? if so, type of cuisine rel? di you have another kidn of salad? is this a real experience? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
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Did you have something else to eat than the green salad? no If so, relevant what you had? see previous answer Location relevant? yes | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
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were you in a restaurant? no if so, type of cuisine rel? see above di you have another kidn of salad? no is this a real experience? yesish | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
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is food relevant at all? did you drink anything? were you in your house? somewhere else inside? or outside? any relevant jobs? vehicles? crimes? other people? 1? 2? 3? 4? 5? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
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is food relevant at all? noish well only in my own strange mind did you drink anything? no were you in your house? no somewhere else inside? no or outside? yope any relevant jobs? yesvehicles? relevant in so far as i was in my car when this puzzle came to mind crimes? no other people? my wife was and children were with me but are not relevant1? 2? 3? 4? 5? my answers may seem a little cryptic but suffice to say i was in my car when i noticed something which prompted me to utter the puzzle phrase amongst other things | ||
| Eli (Eli)
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Did you notice something that put you off meat? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
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Did you notice something that put you off meat? no it would take something seismic to put me off my meat just a last clarification . I saw something which brought food to mind so to say noish for is food relevant is slightly misleading | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
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were you thinking about vegetation? would "Next time I think I'll have the Chef's salad" work in the puzzle? "Next time I think I'll have the beef stew?" work in the puzzle? were you thinking about your health? were you thinking about dining? having been in a restaurant? the "previous time" did you have something else? by "have" do you mean eat? order? is this a reference to a common salad as in food? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
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were you thinking about vegetation? no would "Next time I think I'll have the Chef's salad" work in the puzzle? yes it would "Next time I think I'll have the beef stew?" work in the puzzle? not as well as your previous example were you thinking about your health? no were you thinking about dining? not until i saw something having been in a restaurant? no the "previous time" did you have something else? no and a FA is lurking by "have" do you mean eat? order? both i guess is this a reference to a common salad as in food? yes | ||
| Haenlomal (Haenlomal)
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Did you drive by something relevant? If yes, is it a farm? A slaughterhouse? | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
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did you see someone doing something gross? preparing food? doing something with/to an animal? someone else eating? could you have had this future salad at any place? or was it a specific restaurant that you'd only have the salad at? | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
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did you see any animals that were relevant to this puzzle? farm animals? cows (perhaps eating grass)? sheep? pigs? sorry if this is a repeat, but did what you see put you off what you had eaten? or just put the desire for salads/lettuce in your mind? did you go by a garden? a field with vegetables growing? a stand with fresh vegetables? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
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Did you drive by something relevant? yes If yes, is it a farm? A slaughterhouse? neither but good thinking | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
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did you see someone doing something gross? nopreparing food? no doing something with/to an animal? sounds suggestive but no someone else eating? no could you have had this future salad at any place? Have to say no to this, my mention of a salad while a key to solving this puzzle was an attempt at humour on my part so no actual desire to eat or order one exists. That's the FA that was lurking or was it a specific restaurant that you'd only have the salad at? no. There is not a specific restuarant in question here | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
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did you see any animals that were relevant to this puzzle? nofarm animals? cows (perhaps eating grass)? sheep? pigs? so no to all of these sorry if this is a repeat, but did what you see put you off what you had eaten? FA. I had not eaten for some time before seeing this. What i saw merely made me think of food or just put the desire for salads/lettuce in your mind? not this either did you go by a garden? a field with vegetables growing? a stand with fresh vegetables? none of these i'm afraid | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
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regarding what you saw that prompted you to say that... natural? man-made? did you read something? a sign? advertisement? did you see people? 1 person? some kind of activity? a business? road work? a municipal structure? social structure? was it the state of something? is specific geographical location relevant? is the type of landscape relevant which was around you when you had this thought? city? suburb? rural? farms? industrial? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
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regarding what you saw that prompted you to say that... natural? man-made? Man Made did you read something? yes a sign? this advertisement? no did you see people? no1 person? no some kind of activity? no a business? road work? a municipal structure? social structure? none of these was it the state of something? if you mean the condition of something then no is specific geographical location relevant? yes is the type of landscape relevant which was around you when you had this thought? no city? not a city but.... suburb? rural? farms? industrial? no to rest good questions | ||
| Eli (Eli)
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Was it a town? village? You said location is relevant. Insofar as finding out the type (urban, rural, mountains, farm, etc)? or do we actually need to pinpoint the name of the place? The sign - was it a street/village/county sign? a road sign? a sign indicating the location of a service or similar (like tourist information, some sightseeing spot, etc) | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
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Was it a town? village? It was sign directing one to a town You said location is relevant. Insofar as finding out the type (urban, rural, mountains, farm, etc)? or do we actually need to pinpoint the name of the place? finding out the name of the place is essential to solving this puzzle The sign - was it a street/village/county sign? See above a road sign? a sign indicating the location of a service or similar (like tourist information, some sightseeing spot, etc)not this the sign simply was a direction to a town i'd suggest rather than trying to guess the name of the town you try and ascertain what i meant by the salad remark | ||
| Eli (Eli)
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Was it the name itself that gave you association to food? Or was there something else about the sign that we have to determine? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
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Was it the name itself that gave you association to food? yes Or was there something else about the sign that we have to determine? no it was merely the name of the town that reminded me of food | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
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was this place in europe? england? other place in uk? france, perhaps? hamburg, germany? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
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was this place in europe? england? other place in uk? france, perhaps? this one hamburg, germany? | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
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did the name of the town have.. green? another color? salad? a name that sounds like a food other than salad? is it in a language other than English? did you make a pun? play on words? metaphor? analogy? rhyme? other literal play? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
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did the name of the town have.. green? no another color? no salad? no a name that sounds like a food other than salad? no is it in a language other than English? french surprisingly ;) did you make a pun? pun is closest play on words? metaphor? analogy? rhyme? other literal play? possibly this too | ||
| Eli (Eli)
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The name of the town is obviously in French, but the pun/literal play is it an English word? or words? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
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The name of the town is obviously in French, but the pun/literal play is it an English word? yesish or words? yesish More of a play on words than a pun but quite hard to quantify | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Is there something about the name that (punningly) suggests: that salad is good? that vegetarianism is good? that the implied alternative is bad in some way? Would you need to pronounce the name in a silly Anglicised way (eg Bar-le-Duc = barley duck) for the pun to work? Or would a bilingual speaker immediately get the joke if it were said in normal French? Is it a one-word name? Hyphenated? More than one word? Is it a seaside town? A smutty sort of name like Pussy or Condom (both lovely towns, I'm told)? | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
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ok, here are some ideas: dijon?= maybe reminded you of mustard for sandwiches, hamburgers? bordeaux?=maybe reminded you of wines to go along with great meals? limoges? maybe reminded you of lemons? paris?=pears? foix?=fois gras? macon?=rhymes with bacon? vichy?=maybe reminded you of vichyssois? I've never had this, but it is Irish, I believe. | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
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Nice? Nicoise? salade nicoise? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
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Is there something about the name that (punningly) suggests: that salad is good? no that vegetarianism is good? no that the implied alternative is bad in some way? yes Would you need to pronounce the name in a silly Anglicised way (eg Bar-le-Duc = barley duck) for the pun to work? no Or would a bilingual speaker immediately get the joke if it were said in normal French? no don't think so . The word is french but a word spelt the same exists in english Is it a one-word name? no Hyphenated? don't think so but irr. More than one word? 4 to be precise Is it a seaside town? no irr. A smutty sort of name like Pussy or Condom (both lovely towns, I'm told)? hmmmm no i'm afraid not | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
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ok, here are some ideas: dijon?= maybe reminded you of mustard for sandwiches, hamburgers? no bordeaux?=maybe reminded you of wines to go along with great meals? not this either limoges? maybe reminded you of lemons? no paris?=pears? no but 10 out of 10 for effort foix?=fois gras? fraid not macon?=rhymes with bacon? ha ha but no vichy?=maybe reminded you of vichyssois? I've never had this, but it is Irish, I believe well if it is i've never had it so no to this as well Just to save your brain cells further anquish the word is not, nor is similar to a food or drink but did make me think of eating | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
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Nice? Nicoise? salade nicoise? no to these also . See above response Bon Chance Tout Les Mondes | ||
| Eli (Eli)
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So the word is not similar to food or drink but it made you think of eating. So is it similar to a verb that has to do with eating? kitchen utensils? cooking procedures? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
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So the word is not similar to food or drink but it made you think of eating.`correct So is it similar to a verb that has to do with eating? not a verb kitchen utensils? no cooking procedures? this is closest | ||
| Eli (Eli)
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Does it have to do with food preparations? serving? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
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Does it have to do with food preparations? yes serving? no | ||
| Eli (Eli)
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Hmmm, let's see then: Cutting? Frying? Boiling? Roasting? Stirring? Anything to do with spices? Cooling down? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
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Hmmm, let's see then: Cutting? Frying? Boiling? Roasting? Stirring? Anything to do with spices? Cooling down? No to all don't forget it's not a verb | ||
| Eli (Eli)
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I see, when I asked if it was a verb, I was thinking of a verb for eating, like chewing, swallowing or similar. But then I have to re-think. Is the name similar to an ingredient? something you use when cooking? being hungry? or getting hungry while cooking? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
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I see, when I asked if it was a verb, I was thinking of a verb for eating, like chewing, swallowing or similar. But then I have to re-think. Is the name similar to an ingredient? no something you use when cooking? no being hungry? no or getting hungry while cooking? no | ||
| Eli (Eli)
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Is the word similar to a type of meal? If so, breakfast? dinner? supper? lunch? starter? dessert? other? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Does the town's name begin with "Saint"? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
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Is the word similar to a type of meal? If so, breakfast? dinner? supper? lunch? starter? dessert? other? no but to qoute Woubit help is at hand Does the town's name begin with "Saint"? it certainly does. Do you know it | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
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of the 4 words which make up the name of the town, how many are relevant to your subsequent pun .. (ish)(lol)? 1? 2? 3? 4? the significant word(s) which is not a verb, is it a noun? plural noun? can we look for a noun that would be found in a kitchen? having to do with food preparations... like fork? knife? bowl? peeler parer? does the word have an accent grave? accent aigu? sautée? fillet? should we search for an English noun relating to food preparations of which the same spelling exists in French? If so, does the word have the same meaning in French and Eng? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
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of the 4 words which make up the name of the town, how many are relevant to your subsequent pun .. (ish)(lol)? 1? 2? 3? 4? 2 the significant word(s) which is not a verb, is it a noun? plural noun? noun can we look for a noun that would be found in a kitchen? yes with a small ish having to do with food preparations... like fork? knife? bowl? peeler parer? no to all it's not a utensil does the word have an accent grave? accent aigu? sautée? fillet? i don't believe so and not relevant should we search for an English noun relating to food preparations of which the same spelling exists in French? that's the way forward If so, does the word have the same meaning in French and Eng? to be honest i don't know. I could look it up but i think you are getting close enough to get it yourself. | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
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[Don't think I do know it. I can think of the splendidly named Saint-Michel-Chef-Chef, which fits the kitchen theme but not necessarily the salad/alternative to salad. Unless I am missing something really obvious.] | ||
| Eli (Eli)
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The noun is it an item? an animal? a person? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
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Don't think I do know it.you shouldn't doubt yourself I can think of the splendidly named Saint-Michel-Chef-Chef, which fits the kitchen theme but not necessarily the salad/alternative to salad. Unless I am missing something really obvious.]bingo that's it. Now can you guess what this brought to my funny mind | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
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The noun is it an item? an animal? a person? this. See above | ||
| Eli (Eli)
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This is a long shot, but was just thinking chef-chef sounds a bit similar to chop-chop. Did you get the image of a chef being chopped in 2?? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
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This is a long shot, but was just thinking chef-chef sounds a bit similar to chop-chop. Did you get the image of a chef being chopped in 2?? nice idea but no | ||
| Eli (Eli)
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Did chef-chef give you associations to a chef/cook/someone making meals? Or did chef-chef make you think of something else related to food and so started a train of thought that led to the salad conclusion? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Anything to do with cannibalism? Eg a chef who cooks chefs? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
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Did chef-chef give you associations to a chef/cook/someone making meals? yes Or did chef-chef make you think of something else related to food and so started a train of thought that led to the salad conclusion? no | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
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Anything to do with cannibalism? Eg a chef who cooks chefs? no | ||
| Sleepingbeaver (Sleepingbeaver)
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Another guess: Did you have in mind a chef who has his own chef (that would be a chef's chef, or chef-chef)? Because he know's what's in his meals and won't eat them himself? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 545 Registered: 1-2007 |
Another guess: Did you have in mind a chef who has his own chef (that would be a chef's chef, or chef-chef)? Because he know's what's in his meals and won't eat them himself? not this either i'm afraid | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 978 Registered: 3-2006 |
Quick recap: you were driving along with your wife and kids, when you saw a sign saying "St Michel Chef-Chef". Is this right? Did you see anything else of relevance? Did your wife or kids say anything about the name which led indirectly to the salad remark? Another thought: was it one of those signs (common in France) where the name of the town is crossed out as you leave it? In that case, you might joke that Michel the Chef had knocked off and that only a salad was available. Is this close? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 546 Registered: 1-2007 |
Quick recap: you were driving along with your wife and kids, when you saw a sign saying "St Michel Chef-Chef". Is this right? spot on Did you see anything else of relevance? noDid your wife or kids say anything about the name which led indirectly to the salad remark? yes my 8 year old daughter said something which triggered the salad joke or pun Another thought: was it one of those signs (common in France) where the name of the town is crossed out as you leave it? In that case, you might joke that Michel the Chef had knocked off and that only a salad was available. Is this close? a most excellent idea but not the solution. There must be a new puzzle lurking in that notion | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 599 Registered: 11-2003 |
The thing your daughter said, was it something that would be typical child-straigh-forward-thinking? (am thinking in the way that children sometimes interpret things literally, like I ran a puzzle once where a boy's answer to his mother's question 'has that stomach of yours seen any food today' was 'but mum, my tummy doesn't have any eyes') | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 548 Registered: 1-2007 |
The thing your daughter said, was it something that would be typical child-straigh-forward-thinking? (am thinking in the way that children sometimes interpret things literally, like I ran a puzzle once where a boy's answer to his mother's question 'has that stomach of yours seen any food today' was 'but mum, my tummy doesn't have any eyes')No it was a reasonably straight forward remark | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 549 Registered: 1-2007 |
just to clarify my earlier answer. I guess my daughter thought the sign was a mistake | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 981 Registered: 3-2006 |
Would the puzzle work for just Saint-Michel-Chef? For Saint-Martin-Chef-Chef? Did your daughter think that the signwriter had mistakenly duplicated the word "chef"? Or did she think that "chef" was a misspelling of another word? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 550 Registered: 1-2007 |
Would the puzzle work for just Saint-Michel-Chef? For Saint-Martin-Chef-Chef? only for the latter Did your daughter think that the signwriter had mistakenly duplicated the word "chef"? that's correct Or did she think that "chef" was a misspelling of another word? no | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 601 Registered: 11-2003 |
So your daughter thought the correct sigh should read Saint-Michel-Chef? And than someone has made a mistake when writing the sign? Is her comment related directly to the word chef/chef-chef? Did she think someone had hickups? | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 982 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is the expression "too many cooks spoil the broth" relevant? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 551 Registered: 1-2007 |
So your daughter thought the correct sigh should read Saint-Michel-Chef? yep And than someone has made a mistake when writing the sign? yes Is her comment related directly to the word chef/chef-chef? the fact that the word chef is repeated Did she think someone had hickups? a nice idea and i could see where you were going with that but alas no | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 552 Registered: 1-2007 |
Is the expression "too many cooks spoil the broth" relevant? Absolutely. Well done. You're next post should be the dreaded $poiler | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 983 Registered: 3-2006 |
So you drove through Saint-Michel-Chef-Chef, and your daughter said, "Oh look: too many chefs on that sign". And you replied something like: "Well, they say too many cooks spoil the broth, so I'd better just have a green salad". Close enough? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 553 Registered: 1-2007 |
So you drove through Saint-Michel-Chef-Chef, and your daughter said, "Oh look: too many chefs on that sign". And you replied something like: "Well, they say too many cooks spoil the broth, so I'd better just have a green salad". Close enough? certainly close enough to declare ***************SPOILER***************** Driving through the Vendee region of France recently we came across a road sign for the beautifully named St Michel Chef Chef. My daughter on seeing the sign exclaimed that there is too many chef's on that sign. This triggered me to state that I had eaten there once but the soup was terrible so next time i'll have the green salad starter. I thought the joke was fairly obvious but my wife's puzzled expression led me to think it might work as a puzzle. Well done to all who participated and top marks to Woodworm for getting the name of the town and the solution. BTW St Michel is located close to a town called Pornic which to my mind is spelt PORN I SEE. Now that might have been an even better puzzle!!! | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 984 Registered: 3-2006 |
Great puzzle. As it happens, I have just got back from a little tour of Western France myself. French place-names can be a rich seam of silliness. There are two neighbouring towns called St Agnant and St-Jean d'Angle, which of course we call Stagnant and Dangle. :-) | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 554 Registered: 1-2007 |
Excellent. I've been in St Jean D'Angle myself. Guess we moved on from schoolboy giggling at the mention of the port of Brest!! |
