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Alex319 (Alex319)
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(Hopefully this is harder than my previous "Temporal Paradox" puzzle...)

I left home to catch a bus, but missed it. However, if I had left about 30 seconds later than I had, I would probably have caught it. Explain.
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Did something relevant happen between leaving home and arriving at the bus stop?
Alex319 (Alex319)
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Did something relevant happen between leaving home and arriving at the bus stop? No
Alex319 (Alex319)
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BLOOPER:

Did something relevant happen between leaving home and arriving at the bus stop? No, other than that the bus got there and I wasn't there
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If you had left home later, would you have decided to go to a different bus stop? try to catch a different bus?
Alex319 (Alex319)
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If you had left home later, would you have decided to go to a different bus stop? Noish try to catch a different bus? No
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Do you live close to one end of a bus route? does bus make a loop near you house?

Did you miss this bus completely, or were you able to catch it later?

Is there an elevator in your building?
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do all references to "Catching", "caught" and "missing" in your puzzle refer to a bus? and boarding/not boarding a bus?
are actual times relevant?
if you had left later you would have caught the same exact bus at the same exact stop?
destination relevant?
kind of bus relevant? public? private? school?
when you missed the bus, were you late for it?
Alex319 (Alex319)
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Do you live close to one end of a bus route? No does bus make a loop near you house? No

Did you miss this bus completely, or were you able to catch it later? Not the same exact bus, but I was able to catch the next bus that went along that route

Is there an elevator in your building? No, irrelevant

do all references to "Catching", "caught" and "missing" in your puzzle refer to a bus? and boarding/not boarding a bus? Yes to both
are actual times relevant? No
if you had left later you would have caught the same exact bus at the same exact stop? I would have caught the same bus that I missed the way I did
destination relevant? No
kind of bus relevant? Sort of public? Yes private? school?
when you missed the bus, were you late for it? Yope
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do you drive or walk to the bus stop?

if driving, did you run into any red lights that you would have missed had you gone 30 seconds later?

if walking, did you run into someone you knew that delayed you (someone you would have missed had you left 30 seconds later)?

was the bus running on time? early? late? if the bus was not running on time, could you have possibly caught the same bus at another stop closer to home had you left 30 seconds later?
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By how much did you miss the bus?

Would bus driver wait for you if he saw you coming?
Alex319 (Alex319)
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do you drive or walk to the bus stop? I bicycled but it would work just as well walking

if driving, did you run into any red lights that you would have missed had you gone 30 seconds later? N/A

if walking, did you run into someone you knew that delayed you (someone you would have missed had you left 30 seconds later)? No

was the bus running on time? Yesish early?No late?No if the bus was not running on time, could you have possibly caught the same bus at another stop closer to home had you left 30 seconds later? No

By how much did you miss the bus? About 30 seconds

Would bus driver wait for you if he saw you coming? Irrelevant
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If you had left 30 seconds later would you then have used less time from your house to the bus stop? If so, because you would have taken a short cut? not been stopped/held up by someone or something? been given a lift by someone? other?
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
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quote:

when you missed the bus, were you late for it? Yope





quote:

By how much did you miss the bus? About 30 seconds




exploring these statements...

did you arrive at the bus stop 30 seconds after the scheduled arrival of the bus?
did you arrive at the bus stop 30 seconds after the bus arrived?
is bus schedule relevant?
is change in bus schedule relevant?
is a misinterpretation of the bus schedule relevant?
anything about the roads rel? road work?
Alex319 (Alex319)
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did you arrive at the bus stop 30 seconds after the scheduled arrival of the bus? Yes
did you arrive at the bus stop 30 seconds after the bus arrived? Yes
is bus schedule relevant? Yes
is change in bus schedule relevant? Yes
is a misinterpretation of the bus schedule relevant? Noish
anything about the roads rel? Yes road work? Yes
Eli (Eli)
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You missed my questions from yesterday, but I think they might have been indirectly answered by your reply to Sixtyeight. But just to be sure, would you please answer? Thanks a million.
~damia~ (~damia~)
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did the bus take a different route than normal? because of road works? would that different route have taken it somewhere where you would then have passed it and therefore caught it if youd left 30 seconds later?
Eli (Eli)
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Just want to clarify that you left the house at time x, then walked route y, arriving at the bus stop at time z, which was too late for the bus with appr 30 seconds? But if you had left the house at time x+30 seconds, walked along route y and arrived at the exact same bus stop at time z=30 seconds, you would have caught the bus?
Alex319 (Alex319)
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Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2007 - 2:21 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did the bus take a different route than normal? because of road works? would that different route have taken it somewhere where you would then have passed it and therefore caught it if youd left 30 seconds later? This is pretty much correct. The bus stop that it was supposed to go to was blocked by road work, so it came onto the street I was riding on at a different time. I passed a bus stop, then soon heard the bus come to that stop. I rushed back but it was too late. SPOILER

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