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Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido
Post Number: 78 Registered: 8-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 2:57 pm: |      |
He danced to live. |
Beroean (Beroean)
Moderator Username: Beroean
Post Number: 1231 Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 3:23 pm: |      |
Real life account? Fiction? He = human? Location relevant? Time relevant? |
Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido
Post Number: 79 Registered: 8-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 7:40 pm: |      |
Real life account? no Fiction? yes He = human? yes Location relevant? yes Time relevant? yes i fear it'll be another quick one |
Blazingphoenix (Blazingphoenix)
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Post Number: 150 Registered: 2-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 2:57 am: |      |
Footloose! ...just kidding... Was he an actor? Performer? Did he dance for food and money? Was he forced by someone to dance, or did he just do it on his own? |
Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido
Post Number: 86 Registered: 8-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 7:40 am: |      |
Footloose! lol, no ...just kidding... Was he an actor?no Performer?no Did he dance for food and money? yesWas he forced by someone to dance,no or did he just do it on his own?yes |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight
Post Number: 463 Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 4:28 pm: |      |
aw shucks.. I was hoping this was Michigan J. Frog, but alas.... he's human.;) is his occupation relevant? social conditions relevant? environment relevant? did he have exceptional dancing abilities? |
Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido
Post Number: 88 Registered: 8-2007
| | Posted on Monday, August 27, 2007 - 5:23 am: |      |
is his occupation relevant? yes social conditions relevant? yes environment relevant? clarify please did he have exceptional dancing abilities? no |
Beroean (Beroean)
Moderator Username: Beroean
Post Number: 1244 Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 10:23 pm: |      |
Did this take place in Europe? Africa? America? Somewhere in outer space? Did you make this up? A work of fiction by someone else? Famous author? |
Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido
Post Number: 90 Registered: 8-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 7:36 am: |      |
Did this take place in Europe? Africa? America? Somewhere in outer space? none of these Did you make this up? no A work of fiction by someone else? yesFamous author? yope |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight
Post Number: 485 Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 12:39 pm: |      |
did he dance to music? when he danced, did he.. move his feet? move his body? move his arms? tap his feet? jump? roll on the floor? was it in the Asias? |
Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido
Post Number: 91 Registered: 8-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 7:00 pm: |      |
did he dance to music? no when he danced, did he.. move his feet? yes move his body? yesish move his arms? yes tap his feet? no jump? no roll on the floor? no was it in the Asias? no |
Booklover (Booklover)
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Post Number: 634 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, August 30, 2007 - 2:47 am: |      |
regarding relevant location: n. america? s. america? asia? europe? antartica? africa? australia? regarding relevant location: stage? street? subway? regarding relevant time: 17th cent? 18th? 19th? 20th? 21st? regarding relevant social conditions: was it during the depression? were there hard times? did he need to dance to raise money for himself? his family? was this for an income? did he dance for a living? or was this a "side job"? if side job, did he lose his other job and did this simply to make money to survive? was he an adult? child? if child: 0-2? 3-6? 7-12? 13-18? regarding relevant occupation: artistic/musical/writer? Banking/financial/real estate? Clerical/Administrative? Computer related / Hardware ? Construction / Craftsman ? Education / Academic Research ? Entertainment / Media ? Executive / Management ? Hospitality / Travel ? Legal Services ? Manufacturing / Distributions ? Medical / Health Services ? Politics / Government / Military ? Sales / Marketing ? Technical / Science / Engineering ? Teaching / Child care? Transportation ? Food Service ? Sports? Entertainment? Jailbird / Criminal? Religion? |
Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido
Post Number: 96 Registered: 8-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, August 30, 2007 - 5:34 pm: |      |
regarding relevant location: n. america?no s. america?no asia?no europe?no antartica?no africa?no australia? yes, australia, finally ; ) regarding relevant location: stage?no street?yes for svv of street subway? no regarding relevant time: 17th cent?no 18th?no 19th?yes 20th?yes 21st?no regarding relevant social conditions: was it during the depression?yes, but not originally were there hard times? yes did he need to dance to raise money for himself? yes his family?no was this for an income?yes did he dance for a living?no or was this a "side job"?no if side job, did he lose his other job and did this simply to make money to survive? was he an adult?yes child? if child: 0-2? 3-6? 7-12? 13-18? regarding relevant occupation: artistic/musical/writer? Banking/financial/real estate? Clerical/Administrative? Computer related / Hardware ? Construction / Craftsman ? Education / Academic Research ? Entertainment / Media ? Executive / Management ? Hospitality / Travel ? Legal Services ? Manufacturing / Distributions ? Medical / Health Services ? Politics / Government / Military ? Sales / Marketing ? Technical / Science / Engineering ? Teaching / Child care? Transportation ? Food Service ? Sports? Entertainment? Jailbird / Criminal? Religion? none of these there's a substantial FA going on |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight
Post Number: 507 Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 3:46 pm: |      |
is the FA comment in response to the career list? or something to do with questions about the dancing? did he entertain people with his dancing? did he have any special dress to go with the dancing? relevant what style of dance? is he paid a salary from dancing? spare change? is anything he wears relevant? |
Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido
Post Number: 103 Registered: 8-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 5:52 pm: |      |
Sixtyeight is the FA comment in response to the career list?no or something to do with questions about the dancing?yes did he entertain people with his dancing? no did he have any special dress to go with the dancing? FA relevant what style of dance? FA is he paid a salary from dancing?no spare change? no is anything he wears relevant? no |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight
Post Number: 508 Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, September 02, 2007 - 8:17 pm: |      |
was there rhythm to his movement when he danced (as there is in music)? is anything supernatural relevant? relevant who, if anyone, was near him when he danced? did he receive payment for dancing? did he get money during the act of dancing? would he have died had he not danced? |
Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido
Post Number: 104 Registered: 8-2007
| | Posted on Monday, September 03, 2007 - 9:41 am: |      |
was there rhythm to his movement when he danced yes (as there is in music)? but not necessarily this, FA territory again is anything supernatural relevant? no relevant who, if anyone, was near him when he danced? nobody was near him, but explore did he receive payment for dancing? no did he get money during the act of dancing? no would he have died had he not danced? not as a direct result of not dancing, but living may have been harder. HINT IN WHITE: the title is relevent to the outcome of the scenario Blooper alert!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! relevant what style of dance? FA there is a false assumption here, but a style of dance is very relevent |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
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Post Number: 523 Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 12:14 pm: |      |
So it seems necessary to explore arelevant action for which you use the verb "to dance"? but the action is not a common definition of the word dance? is this metaphor? |
Suido (Suido)
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Post Number: 110 Registered: 8-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 2:59 pm: |      |
So it seems necessary to explore arelevant action for which you use the verb "to dance"? YES! but the action is not a common definition of the word dance? YES!! is this metaphor? YES!!! |
Obaone (Obaone)
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Post Number: 4 Registered: 9-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 8:54 pm: |      |
Was he "dancing" to avoid being bit by a snake? or some other animal? Was he dancing because some cowboy was shooting at his feet? Becasue he really had to pee? what does svv mean? |
Suido (Suido)
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Post Number: 113 Registered: 8-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 2:53 am: |      |
Was he "dancing" to avoid being bit by a snake? or some other animal? Was he dancing because some cowboy was shooting at his feet? Becasue he really had to pee? no to all what does svv mean? some vague value: so there is something relevent that could be referred to as a street, but certainly not your normal city street. If i'm wrong about what svv stands for, someone please correct me! |
Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
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Post Number: 473 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 9:37 am: |      |
"Dancing to someone else's tune"? |
Suido (Suido)
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Post Number: 115 Registered: 8-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 4:44 pm: |      |
"Dancing to someone else's tune"? No. Dancing involves another action, which is colloquially known as a type of dancing in this fictional tale. |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
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Post Number: 529 Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 6:42 pm: |      |
was there some kind of practical function to dancing? was his dancing effective? could he effectively dance with his eyes closed? was the action in cooperation with another person? object? did it serve another person? people? |
Suido (Suido)
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Post Number: 119 Registered: 8-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 6:50 pm: |      |
was there some kind of practical function to dancing? it had a purpose was his dancing effective? yes could he effectively dance with his eyes closed?no was the action in cooperation with another person? noobject?cooperation with another object? did it serve another person? people?no |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
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Post Number: 530 Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 7:20 pm: |      |
did he step on anything with his feet other than the surface he was standing on? would his eyes need to.. read? look down? look ahead? look out? look at his feet? his ams? was he avoiding anything? bullets? |
Suido (Suido)
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Post Number: 122 Registered: 8-2007
| | Posted on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 3:02 am: |      |
did he step on anything with his feet other than the surface he was standing on? would his eyes need to.. read? no look down? yes look ahead? yes look out? yes look at his feet? his ams? no was he avoiding anything? no, given that you mean things moving towards him, naturally he avoided bumping into stationary objects while dancing bullets? no |
Suido (Suido)
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Post Number: 123 Registered: 8-2007
| | Posted on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 3:10 am: |      |
When I said that he couldn't effectively dance without his eyes open, it is simply because he wouldn't normally dance with his eyes shut. He could do it with his eyes shut, but at risk of hitting stationary objects, sustaining unnecessary bruises, etc. However, blind peope do dance, and quite effectively, as would anyone if they had to do it blindfolded, and practiced enough. |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
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Post Number: 536 Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 10:42 pm: |      |
When he danced, would he need a floor space larger than 3 square meters? could he dance in asmaller space than that? would he move a greater distance than 3 meters? would he move in s straght line? move in a circular pattern? when you mention risk of collision, is there a relevant location where he danced, which had many obstacles? when you write "practiced enough" do you mean that one would practice this dance? to get better? to expect a better result? survive easier? In order to deefine the scene.. If he danced blindfolded, could he likely collide with: a vehicle? a machine? an animal? a residence? plantlife? furniture? metal? wood? are other dancers relevant? |
Suido (Suido)
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Post Number: 132 Registered: 8-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 8:11 am: |      |
When he danced, would he need a floor space larger than 3 square meters? yes could he dance in asmaller space than that? yes, but it would be completely pointless would he move a greater distance than 3 meters? yes would he move in s straght line? yopemove in a circular pattern? no when you mention risk of collision, is there a relevant location where he danced, which had many obstacles? no when you write "practiced enough" do you mean that one would practice this dance? to get better? to expect a better result? survive easier? the activity is commonplace, performed and taken for granted by any able bodied adult, including the person in this scenario. certain groups do practice this activity in order to get better at it, but apart from perhaps helping you identify the activity, they are irrelevant. In order to deefine the scene.. If he danced blindfolded, could he likely collide with: a vehicle? no a machine? no an animal? no a residence? no plantlife? yes furniture? no metal? no wood? no are other dancers relevant?no |
Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
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Post Number: 49 Registered: 9-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 2:11 pm: |      |
Since the location is Australia, is some aboroginal dance relevant, like corroboree? |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
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Post Number: 554 Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Monday, September 10, 2007 - 2:08 am: |      |
Does he dance for or about a deity? when he moved along as he danced was his direction governed by.. moving towards any relevant targets / objects / destinations? or just avoiding objects? did he move towards anything? any direction relevant? |
Suido (Suido)
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Post Number: 138 Registered: 8-2007
| | Posted on Monday, September 10, 2007 - 1:37 pm: |      |
Since the location is Australia, is some aboroginal dance relevant, like corroboree? no, but good thinking Does he dance for or about a deity? no when he moved along as he danced was his direction governed by.. moving towards any relevant targets / objects / destinations? destinations or just avoiding objects? no did he move towards anything?yes any direction relevant?no |
Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
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Post Number: 62 Registered: 9-2007
| | Posted on Monday, September 10, 2007 - 4:01 pm: |      |
Does what he's doing resemble a "Limbo" (The pole and the flexible back bending thingie) |
Suido (Suido)
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Post Number: 142 Registered: 8-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - 9:02 am: |      |
Does what he's doing resemble a "Limbo" (The pole and the flexible back bending thingie) no |
Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
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Post Number: 73 Registered: 9-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - 12:05 pm: |      |
WARNING! Wild uninformed guesses incoming---> Okay I have no clue why but when I first read your puzzle this first thing that came to my mind was "Fiddler on the roof" and "Chimneysweep". Any of these relevant? (Lol dont know why I dont just keep my mouth shut) Is he an aborogine? Martial arts? Meditation? |
Suido (Suido)
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Post Number: 149 Registered: 8-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - 7:21 pm: |      |
WARNING! Wild uninformed guesses incoming---> oh goody Okay I have no clue why but when I first read your puzzle this first thing that came to my mind was "Fiddler on the roof" and "Chimneysweep". Any of these relevant?no (Lol dont know why I dont just keep my mouth shut) keeps us entertained, keep it up Is he an aborogine? no Martial arts? no Meditation?no |
Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
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Post Number: 85 Registered: 9-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - 8:06 pm: |      |
The title---> does it refer to tears from the eyes, or tears, like tears in cloth? Is he skipping? cycling? hopping? |
Suido (Suido)
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Post Number: 152 Registered: 8-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 8:13 am: |      |
The title---> does it refer to tears from the eyes, or tears, like tears in cloth? tears from the eyes Is he skipping? cycling? hopping? none of these |
Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
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Post Number: 96 Registered: 9-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 9:25 am: |      |
Does it end in tears if he stops dancing, or is it inevitably going to end in tears? When you say end in tears, do you mean that he is going to cry, or is this abstract? |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
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Post Number: 562 Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 12:29 pm: |      |
so when he danced he had a destination or destinations in mind? did he realize the destination himself? did he get the destination from an outside source? did dancing resemble running? walking? would he carry anything when dancing? in this fiction, is dancing.. professional? occupational? personal? recreational? institutional? educational? part of a greater action? part of a more significant action? |
Suido (Suido)
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Post Number: 154 Registered: 8-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 3:28 pm: |      |
Does it end in tears if he stops dancing,no or is it inevitably going to end in tears? yes When you say end in tears, do you mean that he is going to cry,no or is this abstract? yes so when he danced he had a destination or destinations in mind? yope did he realize the destination himself? yes did he get the destination from an outside source? often yes, other times no did dancing resemble running? no walking? yes, dancing is simply walking would he carry anything when dancing? yes in this fiction, is dancing.. professional? no occupational? this is closest personal? no recreational? no institutional? no educational? no part of a greater action? yes part of a more significant action? no |
Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
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Post Number: 101 Registered: 9-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 7:14 pm: |      |
Is he part of a funeral service of some kind? Something to do with death? |
Suido (Suido)
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Post Number: 163 Registered: 8-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 3:14 am: |      |
Is he part of a funeral service of some kind? Something to do with death? no |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
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Post Number: 566 Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 3:18 am: |      |
so the liquid coming from a tear gland is not relevant to the title? is any crying relevant? sadness? liquid? saline? is tear another metaphor? would you literally say "it only ends in sadness"? is it relevant what he carried? would he carry anything in his hands when dancing? in a bag? his pocket? more than 1 place? was he delivering what he carried? transporting it? would someone dance without an item? was it money? was it roughly larger? smaller? than a soccer ball? is there a difference between dancing and walking? |
Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
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Post Number: 110 Registered: 9-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 9:00 am: |      |
Is he crushing something under his feet? Like those grapecrushers in vineyards? Is he barefoot? If not is he wearing a particular kind of footwear? Is his occupation no longer relevant in today's world? |
Suido (Suido)
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Post Number: 164 Registered: 8-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 10:28 am: |      |
so the liquid coming from a tear gland is not relevant to the title? no is any crying relevant? yes sadness? yes liquid?no saline? no is tear another metaphor? no would you literally say "it only ends in sadness"? yes is it relevant what he carried? yes would he carry anything in his hands when dancing? nothing relevant in a bag? yesish his pocket? no more than 1 place? no was he delivering what he carried?no transporting it? yesish would someone dance without an item? yes, but i feel this has been badly worded was it money? no was it roughly larger? smaller? than a soccer ball?larger is there a difference between dancing and walking?not physically, but there needs to be another element to walking for it to be referred to as dancing Is he crushing something under his feet?no Like those grapecrushers in vineyards? no Is he barefoot?no If not is he wearing a particular kind of footwear? IRR Is his occupation no longer relevant in today's world? yes, it is no longer relevant |
Suido (Suido)
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Post Number: 165 Registered: 8-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 10:32 am: |      |
Clarification: Is he part of a funeral service of some kind? noSomething to do with death? yes. sorry I was focussing on the dancing. The dancing has nothing to do with death. But death is relevant |
Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
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Post Number: 121 Registered: 9-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 1:13 pm: |      |
Is he in the army? |
Suido (Suido)
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Post Number: 180 Registered: 8-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 4:03 pm: |      |
Is he in the army?no |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
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Post Number: 574 Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 4:15 pm: |      |
is death in masses relevant? a select few? an individual? did he carry the item on his back? was it larger than an office chair? was it alive? a person? consumable? food? did it belong to him? was it for sale? |
Suido (Suido)
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Post Number: 182 Registered: 8-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 4:29 pm: |      |
is death in masses relevant? no a select few? noan individual? yes did he carry the item on his back? yes was it larger than an office chair? yope was it alive? no a person? no consumable? no food? no did it belong to him? yes was it for sale? no |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
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Post Number: 577 Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 11:32 pm: |      |
do vehicles exist? if no, could a vehicle make dancing obsolete? does this fiction borrow any actual history? actual location? could anyone recognize this use of the word dance outside of this fiction? is farming or agriculture relevant? |
Suido (Suido)
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Post Number: 184 Registered: 8-2007
| | Posted on Friday, September 14, 2007 - 1:32 am: |      |
do vehicles exist? yes if no, could a vehicle make dancing obsolete? they have, i suppose does this fiction borrow any actual history? yesactual location? yes could anyone recognize this use of the word dance outside of this fiction? FA is farming or agriculture relevant?yes |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
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Post Number: 584 Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Friday, September 14, 2007 - 7:13 pm: |      |
Is "he " a farmer? does he work on a farm? is the dancing done strictly on a farm? is it done on a farm at all? anything to do with the gold rush? troubles of the indigenous Australians relevant? |
Suido (Suido)
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Post Number: 197 Registered: 8-2007
| | Posted on Friday, September 14, 2007 - 9:29 pm: |      |
Is "he " a farmer? no does he work on a farm? yesish is the dancing done strictly on a farm? no is it done on a farm at all? no anything to do with the gold rush? no troubles of the indigenous Australians relevant? no |
Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
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Post Number: 144 Registered: 9-2007
| | Posted on Friday, September 14, 2007 - 11:57 pm: |      |
Is he burning farms down? |
Suido (Suido)
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Post Number: 199 Registered: 8-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, September 15, 2007 - 5:08 am: |      |
Is he burning farms down? no |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
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Post Number: 586 Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 2:33 pm: |      |
is he a slave? |
Suido (Suido)
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Post Number: 209 Registered: 8-2007
| | Posted on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 2:33 am: |      |
is he a slave? no |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
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Post Number: 594 Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 8:00 pm: |      |
does he carry.. equipment? materials? something man-made? tools? implements? |
Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
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Post Number: 184 Registered: 9-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 6:01 am: |      |
Did he 'march' with others carrying a protesting banner or something-like, since he was unemployed? Think he would have been called a 'swagman' or a 'swaggie' in australian lingo :-) Was he an otherwise wandering swaggie looking for work for his particular line of farm-work? So the dancing is what he does to travel from place to place? |
Suido (Suido)
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Post Number: 211 Registered: 8-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 6:30 am: |      |
does he carry.. equipment? yes materials? depends on what materials you mean something man-made? yes tools? yes implements? yes Did he 'march' with others carrying a protesting banner or something-like, since he was unemployed? no Think he would have been called a 'swagman' or a 'swaggie' in australian lingo :-) YES!!! Was he an otherwise wandering swaggie looking for work for his particular line of farm-work? yes he is. A swaggie wanders across Australia, getting work at farms, sheep stations and anywhere else he can find it So the dancing is what he does to travel from place to place? YES, this is almost complete. Why do I refer to it as dancing in this puzzle? |
Woubit (Woubit)
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Post Number: 101 Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 10:40 am: |      |
Once a jolly swagman camped by a billabong Under the shade of a coolibah tree, And he sang as he watched and waited till his billy boiled "Who'll come a-waltzing Matilda with me?" Down came a jumbuck to drink at the billabong, Up jumped the swagman and seized him with glee, And he sang as he stowed that jumbuck in his tucker bag, "You'll come a-waltzing Matilda with me". Down came the squatter, mounted on his thoroughbred, Up rode the troopers - one, two and three. "Whose is that jumbuck you've got in your tucker bag? "You'll come a-waltzing Matilda with me". Up jumped the swagman, leapt into the billabong, "You'll never take me alive!" said he, And his ghost may be heard as you pass by the billabong, "Who'll come a-waltzing Matilda with me?" Andrew "Banjo" Paterson This song, the "unofficial national anthem" of Australia, tells the story of an itinerant farm worker, or "swagman". It is perhaps not as well known as it should be that many of the early European immigrants to Australia were not British convicts but German labourers, and the practice of going from settlement to settlement looking for work was known as being "auf der Walz". Such people carried all their belongings, or "swag", with them in a rolled-up blanket. A tradition in the German army (many of these people were ex-soldiers) was to give the standard issue Army blanket a woman's name, and the most frequently chosen was Matilda. Thus, "waltzing Matilda" meant the practice of wandering the outback as I have described. Further glosses: a "billabong" is a water hole, and a "coolibah" is a eucalyptus tree. A "billy" is a metal can used to hold water. A "jumbuck" is a sheep. A "tucker bag" is a bag for holding food. The "squatter" is the man who owned the land, and therefore the sheep, appropriated by the swagman, and the "troopers" were his personal enforcers (not state officials). |
Suido (Suido)
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Post Number: 213 Registered: 8-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 2:15 pm: |      |
And Woubit finishes it off with exemplary googling skills. *************SPOILER************** Exactly as Woubit has described, with a few other details: Though now generally credited to Banjo Paterson (Australia's most prolific and well known bush poet, also authored 'The man from Snowy River'), Waltzing Matilda is recognised as a folk/trad song from the 1800's, and Banjo formally recorded it in it's modern guise. Despite this, the words are still somewhat arbitrarily and haphazardly bawled out at all international sporting events, ably aided by mid-strength Carlton Draught, Bundy rum or whatever the local brew is. As such, it still retains its status as a traditional Aussie ballad, and variations in wording are the norm. The swag itself was indeed the whole bundle, but in modern parlance it refers only to a single person tent which is basically a canvas, waterproof sleeping bag that can be rolled up for convenient carrying, and is still quite commonly used on camping trips in the bush. Good work Sixtyeight for sticking with this one all the way through, and Woubit for the wrapping up. |
Woubit (Woubit)
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Post Number: 102 Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 9:59 pm: |      |
The words I have quoted may be regarded as the definitive version of "Waltzing Matilda", since they are those used by Australia's greatest singer, painter, and exponent of the didgeridoo. I refer of course to the immortal (so far) Rolf Harris, whose performance of "Waltzing Matilda" and such other classics as "Tie me kangaroo down sport" can be heard here. |
Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
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Post Number: 193 Registered: 9-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 10:57 pm: |      |
zomg Waltzing Matilda has been playing in my head throughout this whole puzzle! lateral thinker needs to become a lateral poster lol! but loved the song as a kid :-D |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
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Post Number: 596 Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 1:37 am: |      |
was there a relevant fiction title that you were referring to or does the "fiction" refer to the song/poem? |
Suido (Suido)
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Post Number: 215 Registered: 8-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 3:58 am: |      |
Yes, the fiction refers to the song. While based on real swaggies, who waltzed Matilda, brewed billy tea and cooked bush tucker over open fires, quite probably camped under the shade of eucalypt trees near billabongs, the story told in the song is regarded as entirely fictional. Woubit, the point is a very pedantic one, as it refers only to minor wording changes such as 'while/till his billy boiled'. I personally have never sung the word till, and was surprised to see it when I checked my facts before posting this puzzle. I find it hard to subscribe to a definitive version, as I've seen numerous different wordings, all credited to Banjo Paterson. I think it's a shame that Rolf Harris is still considered around the world as the definitive Australian artist. While I have full respect for his talents (except for that despicable song you mentioned, the bane of every aussie kid in primary school), I feel he is not the greatest Australian singer or exponent of the didgeridoo. Wobble board yes, didgeridoo no. His talents as a painter I do not know, but there are far better singer/songwriters out there, from Yothu Yindi's aboriginal music to Keith Urban's dominance of the US country music scene, from Midnight Oil's political protest songs to Peter Allen's flamboyant performances, and so on. Con the Fruiterer and Kylie Minogue notwithstanding, Australian music has a little more depth to it than the contribution of Rolf Harris. |
Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
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Post Number: 551 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 5:58 pm: |      |
While not a native of Oz I feel you need also to mention in your list of great Aussie artists a certain Eric Bogle. To those who know his music 'nuff said...to the rest you've probably heard it! One of his best known ones is indeed "The Band Played Waltzing Matilda"... |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
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Post Number: 601 Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 7:10 pm: |      |
While we're on Great Aussie artists I'll throw in guitarist Tommy Emmanuel. (though born in Wales) (; |
Booklover (Booklover)
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Post Number: 662 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 9:04 pm: |      |
Good puzzle! Since you mentioned Banjo Paterson, I just have to say that Man From Snowy River is one of my favorite movies! |