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Peter365 (Peter365)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 11:26 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A man was convicted of murder because of a newspaper. Please explain.
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Justly convicted? Or unjustly? A broadsheet newspaper? A tabloid?

True story?

Did he work for the newspaper at all?

Did he leave a newspaper lying around?
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Justly convicted? yes Or unjustly? A broadsheet newspaper? A tabloid? irr

True story? no

Did he work for the newspaper at all? no

Did he leave a newspaper lying around? noish
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one specific newspaper?
are any articles in the paper relevant to the conviction?
was he in the paper?
did he buy the paper?
ever posess the paper?
publication date relevant?
was the newspaper entered into evidence?
did a newspaper lead indirectly to someone's death?
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one specific newspaper? If you mean the actual name of the paper e.g The Times or Independant then this would be irrelevant. It could be any newspaper
are any articles in the paper relevant to the conviction? no
was he in the paper? no
did he buy the paper? yesish
ever posess the paper? yes
publication date relevant? to the murder yes
was the newspaper entered into evidence? yes
did a newspaper lead indirectly to someone's death? yesish
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Is there an explosion involved?
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Is there an explosion involved? no
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was it published on the day of the murder? the day before? was it left on the scene? is any article in the paper relevant? did someone leave fingerprints on it?
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was it published on the day of the murder? yesthe day before? no was it left on the scene? yes is any article in the paper relevant? no did someone leave fingerprints on it? maybe but not the murderer
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Is there a relevant single copy of the paper? are its physical properties important? or rather the information inside?
Do we have to find out more about the victim? For murderer is it a stranger? enemy? family member? ex-friend?
Do we have to find out more about the motive of the murderer? about the course of events? the place?
Are further people involved?
Are any occupations relevant?
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Is there a relevant single copy of the paper? yes are its physical properties important? yes or rather the information inside? no
Do we have to find out more about the victim? yes For murderer is it a stranger? yesish enemy? family member? ex-friend? no to rest
Do we have to find out more about the motive of the murderer? yope about the course of events? most definitely the place? Yope
Are further people involved? a clever detective i guess
Are any occupations relevant? yes
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Did the paper cover anything? was anything wrapped in the paper?
Is the ink of the paper relevant? the material paper? was the paper destroyed in any way? burned? ripped?
Did this happen in a building? vehicle? outside?
Did the murderer meet the victim before the killing? how often 1? 2? .. times?
Did he murder in course of another crime?
Has the detective an active part in this puzzle? or did he arrive after the murder?
Is the occupation of the murderer (and also of the victim please):
Artistic? Musical?
Agriculture? Hunter? Fisherman?
Banking? Financial? Real estate?
Clerical? Administrative? Receptionist?
Computer related? Hardware? Information technology?
Construction? Craftsman?
Criminal? Jailbird?
Education? Teaching?
Entertainment? Media?
Executive? Management?
Hospitality? Travel? Food Service?
Law enforcement? Police?
Legal Services?
Manufacturing? Distributions?
Medical? Health Services?
Nurse? Carer? Child care?
Politics? Government? Military?
Sales? Marketing? Tradesman?
Religion?
Retired person? Occupational disease?
Research? Academic Research? Applied Research?
Science? Mathematics? Natural science? Humanities?
Sports?
Student? Trainee?
Technical? Engineering?
Transportation?
Unemployed?
Writer? Editor? Translator? Interpreter?
Other?
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Did the paper cover anything? no was anything wrapped in the paper? no
Is the ink of the paper relevant? no the material paper? yes was the paper destroyed in any way? burned? ripped? this
Did this happen in a building? vehicle? outside? if you mean the murder it could have been inside or outside not really relevant
Did the murderer meet the victim before the killing? how often 1? 2? .. times? probably more
Did he murder in course of another crime? yes
Has the detective an active part in this puzzle? no other than the fact that he solved the case which is now your job or did he arrive after the murder? see above
Is the occupation of the murderer (and also of the victim please):
Artistic? Musical?
Agriculture? Hunter? Fisherman?
Banking? Financial? Real estate?
Clerical? Administrative? Receptionist?
Computer related? Hardware? Information technology?
Construction? Craftsman?
Criminal? Jailbird?
Education? Teaching?
Entertainment? Media?
Executive? Management?
Hospitality? Travel? Food Service?
Law enforcement? Police?
Legal Services?
Manufacturing? Distributions? yesish - victim
Medical? Health Services?
Nurse? Carer? Child care?
Politics? Government? Military?
Sales? Marketing? Tradesman?
Religion?
Retired person? Occupational disease?
Research? Academic Research? Applied Research?
Science? Mathematics? Natural science? Humanities?
Sports?
Student? victimTrainee?
Technical? Engineering?
Transportation?
Unemployed?
Writer? Editor? Translator? Interpreter?
Other? murderers occupation is irrelevant
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Is age? or gender? of victim? or murderer relevant? What about era? location?
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did the murderer tear the paper? or did the victim? is the way the victim died relevant? was he shot through the paper? like the paper was camouflage for the weapon?
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Is age? yes or gender? noish of victim? yes or murderer no relevant? What about era? irr location? irr

sorry above might be confusing . Age of victim is relevant. Age of murderer isn't suffice to say he was an adult. Gender of victim is not especially relevant . In this version it's a girl. Era is yopishly relevant in that this happened in the last 20 years. Location not relevant . Could have happened in lots of places.
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did the murderer tear the paper? yes or did the victim? so no is the way the victim died relevant? no other than that she was murdered was he shot through the paper? no like the paper was camouflage for the weapon? no but nice thought
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Age of victim;
0-5?
5-10?
10-18?
Adult?
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Age of victim;
0-5?
5-10?
10-18? this one
Adult?
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age 11? 12? 13? 4? 15? 16? 17? 18?

is the only thing relevant about the paper that it was ripped? is the size of the rip important? the location on the paper? was it ripped by accident? or on purpose? was it ripped by something like scissors? a knife? is where exactly the paper was left important? something it was used for? was it used during the murder?

did the murderer target that victim specifically? or did the victim happen to be in the wrong place?
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that was meant to be 14
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age 11? 12? 13? 4? 15? 16? 17? 18? only relevant that they're in their early double digits

is the only thing relevant about the paper that it was ripped? yes is the size of the rip important? yopee the location on the paper? yes was it ripped by accident? this or on purpose? was it ripped by something like scissors? no a knife? no is where exactly the paper was left important? yes something it was used for? no was it used during the murder? not during

did the murderer target that victim specifically? probably or did the victim happen to be in the wrong place? you could argue that too. NOt clear whether this was permeditated or a spontaneous act
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is any text within the paper, other than the date, relevant to the puzzle?
was an article torn out? picture? anything relevant torn out?
Did the paper hold any relevant forensic evidence?

was the paper at the crime scene?
do we need to know anything more about the crime scene (I know indoor/outdoor is irrel...)?
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Lemme see... Is it relevant that the day it was published was what the murderer tried to use as an alibi? Such as that at the time, he was reading the newpaper?
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Is the victim a student with a part time job? If so, does it matter what she studies? or what the job is?
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Is the student a newspaper delivery girl?
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Sorry for posting two in a row.. posted the last one too quickly

If the victim is a newspaper delivery girl, did the murderer kill her on her delivery route, and no more newspapers were delivered that day? His house was the last to receive a paper?
Did the murderer realize part of the paper was torn? Perhaps it was torn in a struggle, and a torn piece of it was found on the murderer's property, revealing that he had in fact received a newspaper the day of the murder?
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Is the student a newspaper delivery girl?
If so, was she on her delivery route when she was murdered?
Is the date of the newspaper relevant because on the day of her murder, she never finished her route? And the murderer was the last to receive a newspaper?
Did the murderer know the newspaper was torn?
Perhaps a piece of that day's newspaper was found on his property, demonstrating that he did in fact receive a newspaper that day?
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is any text within the paper, other than the date, relevant to the puzzle? no
was an article torn out? picture? anything relevant torn out? no
Did the paper hold any relevant forensic evidence? yes

was the paper at the crime scene? yes
do we need to know anything more about the crime scene (I know indoor/outdoor is irrel...)? yes. BTW it was outdoor
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Lemme see... Is it relevant that the day it was published was what the murderer tried to use as an alibi? yesish Such as that at the time, he was reading the newpaper? but not this
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Is the victim a student with a part time job? yes If so, does it matter what she studies? no or what the job is? yes
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Is the student a newspaper delivery girl? yes
Is the student a newspaper delivery girl?
If so, was she on her delivery route when she was murdered? yes
Is the date of the newspaper relevant because on the day of her murder, she never finished her route? yes And the murderer was the last to receive a newspaper? yes but your task is to work out how this was proved
Did the murderer know the newspaper was torn? no
Perhaps a piece of that day's newspaper was found on his property, demonstrating that he did in fact receive a newspaper that day? no
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was the murderer a person who regularly received a paper on the route? or did they kill her inbetween 2 deliveries? did the person who was next on the route complain? or just tell police they never received theirs? did the police just work out who had received theirs and who hadn't? and I guess maybe the murderer said he hadn't had his? but it was found in his house? or near his house?
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was the murderer a person who regularly received a paper on the route? yes or did they kill her inbetween 2 deliveries? yesish did the person who was next on the route complain? yes or just tell police they never received theirs? this also did the police just work out who had received theirs and who hadn't? eventually and I guess maybe the murderer said he hadn't had his? yes but it was found in his house? no or near his house? no
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was any relevant forensic evidence left on the paper?
were paper fibers or other forensics found on the murderer?
murder weapon?
relevant how the paper was torn?
did the murderer attempt to hide any evidence? destroy any evidence?
was she murdered after delivering the murderer's paper?
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was any relevant forensic evidence left on the paper? yes
were paper fibers or other forensics found on the murderer? no
murder weapon? no
relevant how the paper was torn? yes
did the murderer attempt to hide any evidence? noish destroy any evidence? yope
was she murdered after delivering the murderer's paper? yes
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was the paper ripped by hand?
or by an object?
do forensics reveal what ripped the paper?
is there forensic evidence of the murderer's body/clothing on the paper?
is a weapon relevant? forensics from a weapon?
did a weapon rip the paper?
anything else relevant at the crime scene? evidence?
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did he clean the weapon with the paper?

did he dispose of the paper afterwards? leave it by the body? put it in a bin? try to hide it?
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was the paper ripped by hand? no
or by an object? yes
do forensics reveal what ripped the paper? well it confirmed it
is there forensic evidence of the murderer's body/clothing on the paper? no
is a weapon relevant? no forensics from a weapon? no
did a weapon rip the paper? no
anything else relevant at the crime scene? evidence? yes
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did he clean the weapon with the paper? no./ There is no weapon. Lets say the victim was strangled

did he dispose of the paper afterwards? no leave it by the body? yes put it in a bin? try to hide it? no to rest
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Is the other evidence microscopic?
a common object?
more than one relevant item?
large object containing forensic evidence?
clothing?
some kind of hand-held item?
a possession of the murderer's?
a possession of the victim's?
something that was origianallly a part of the scene?
relevant where the body was found? how the body was found?
is an alibi involved at all?
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Is the other evidence microscopic? yes
a common object? if you mean the object that ripped the paper then yes but it was not found at the crime scene
more than one relevant item? no just the newspaper and the object
large object containing forensic evidence? wouldn't be considered large
clothing? no
some kind of hand-held item? no
a possession of the murderer's? yes
a possession of the victim's? no
something that was origianallly a part of the scene? emm not sure what you mean. It wasn't part of the crime scene
relevant where the body was found? not really how the body was Well it was dead :o)

I'm going to post a recap here to avoid any confusion


A 12 year old girl is found murdered by strangulation in a ditch. She was last seen doing her paper round. In her possession is her delivary bag with some undelivered newspapers one of which is torn. After a clever deduction a detective is then able to order a forensic test of an object belonging to the suspect which strongly points to his guilt and ultimately leads to his confession and conviction. The object is not hand held or considered large.

Hope this makes sense
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thanks for the recap!

is the object electronic? does it have writing on it? is it made of plastic? metal? wood? stone? rubber? is it larger than a book? larger than a computer?
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thanks for the recap! welcome

is the object electronic? no does it have writing on it? no is it made of plastic? metal? this wood? stone? rubber? is it larger than a book? hmm- No but would depend on the book larger than a computer? no
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is it larger than a credit card? larger than A5? larger than A4?

is it shaped approximately (or exactly) like a cube? cuboid? cylinder? sphere? pyramid?

is the type of metal relevant? made of iron? steel? alum? bronze? copper? gold? silver?
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is it larger than a credit card? yes larger than A5? about this size maybe a little smallerlarger than A4? no

is it shaped approximately (or exactly) like a cube? cuboid? cylinder? sphere? pyramid? none of these

is the type of metal relevant? noish i.e. it won't help you guess what it is made of iron? steel? alum? bronze? copper? gold? silver? it could be made of many different metals
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I'm sure I posted more questions here yesterday hmmmm

is it a solid object? can you put things inside it? is it some kind of toy? or game? does it have movable parts? is it some kind of statue/sculpture?

is the object found by the body? on the body? with the murderer? on his person? in his house? somewhere in the vicinity of the murder?
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I'm sure I posted more questions here yesterday hmmmm

is it a solid object? yes can you put things inside it? yesish is it some kind of toy? no or game? no does it have movable parts? yes is it some kind of statue/sculpture? no

is the object found by the body? no on the body? no with the murderer? yesish on his person? no in his house? yes somewhere in the vicinity of the murder? no
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Would you typically find this object in a household? In the kitchen? working room? dining room? living room? bathroom? workshop?
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Would you typically find this object in a household? yes In the kitchen? working room? dining room? living room? bathroom? workshop? but in none of these. The object is not portable
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is it a piece of office equipment? some kind of tool? would it be found in the garage?
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Is the item found on the interior of the house? exterior?
Was the item removed or did it remain where it was during the crime?
is it fixed to a wall? floor? ceiling?
normally concealed? exposed? ornate? decorative?
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is it a piece of office equipment? no some kind of tool? no would it be found in the garage? no
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Is the item found on the interior of the house? exterior? sort of exterior but a bit yopish
Was the item removed or did it remain where it was during the crime? it remained where it was
is it fixed to a wall? no floor? no ceiling? no
normally concealed? no exposed? yes ornate? they can be but not usually decorative? some might be
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door? part of a door?
window? part of a window?
something associated with one of the above?
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door? no part of a door? YES
window? part of a window? so no
something associated with one of the above? yes
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Doorknob? Keyhole? Peephole?
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is it the letterbox? were her fingerprints found on it? was the piece of torn paper in it?
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Doorknob? Keyhole? Peephole? none of these but see below
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is it the letterbox? yes. Well done were her fingerprints found on it? no was the piece of torn paper in it? yes

you're very close. Do you want to try and post a $poiler
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A 12 year old girl is found murdered by strangulation in a ditch. She was last seen doing her paper round. In her possession is her delivary bag with some undelivered newspapers one of which is torn. After a clever deduction a detective is then able to order a forensic test of the letterbox of the suspect, in which is found the corresponding torn piece of the newspaper, despite the fact the suspect claims to not have received the paper?
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Close enough to declare a
*****************SPOILER********************
The case hinged on the fact that the as there were 2 newspapers left in her bag the police initially assumed she had not made it to the 2nd last house on her route. In fact she had and the man living there raped and murdered her and dumped her body. To cover his tracks he removed the paper from his letterbox and put it back in her bag to throw the police of the scent. Unfortunately for him in his haste he tore the newspaper while removing it from the letterbox. Our detective correctly deduced that the rip happened in this way and forensics were able to match tiny paint fragments on the paper with the suspects letter box. Faced with this the suspect confessed. Well done Damia for solving and thanks to Detective Inspector Jack Frost for the story. Please divert your minds to my Close Call puzzle on which i'm going to post a hint as you all seem to have a very limited knowledge of bomb making!!

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