| Author | Message | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2539 Registered: 8-2001 |
I had only one major problem during my stay in South Korea this summer. Although I thought I was describing the problem in a literal, matter-of-fact way, several people who knew nothing about Korea correctly objected that it was impossible to have that particular problem. How come?? | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 97 Registered: 8-2007 |
a problem doing something? a problem communicating something? a problem involving other people? was it one large problem? or the same problem recurring often? was the problem ever fixed while in Korea? | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 496 Registered: 6-2007 |
does the description problem have anything to do with korean words? or customs which are difficult to translate? impossible to accurately translate? into english? do the people to whom you are trying to describe the problem know all the relevant facts? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2542 Registered: 8-2001 |
w member Username: Suido Post Number: 97 Registered: 8-2007 Posted on Friday, August 31, 2007 - 9:39 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) a problem doing something? yesish a problem communicating something? no a problem involving other people? npoish was it one large problem? yes or the same problem recurring often? yesish was the problem ever fixed while in Korea? yes Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight) New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 496 Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Friday, August 31, 2007 - 3:38 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) does the description problem have anything to do with korean words? no or customs which are difficult to translate? no impossible to accurately translate? into english? no do the people to whom you are trying to describe the problem know all the relevant facts? yes | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1433 Registered: 8-2006 |
LoL, you notice the ads on this page are about Korea? In the "Matter of fact" way, did you use hyberbole, metaphor, exaggeration? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2543 Registered: 8-2001 |
Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig) New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1433 Registered: 8-2006 Posted on Friday, August 31, 2007 - 9:28 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) LoL, you notice the ads on this page are about Korea? not till you pointed it out!! In the "Matter of fact" way, did you use hyberboleno, metaphor no, exaggeration apparently, but not intentionally? | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 500 Registered: 6-2007 |
was your problem something to do with .. a physical action? a daily need? travel process? accomodations? work? leisure? daily routine? dining? speaking a language? Korean customs? Korean law? other law? electricity? driving? transportation? money? communication? phone? email? television? clothing? shopping? hygiene? medical? did you solve the problem by yourself? did you need help to solve the problem? help from one person? was there a new situation from which a problem developed? could the situation have happened at home? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2544 Registered: 8-2001 |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight) New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 500 Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Saturday, September 01, 2007 - 4:09 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) was your problem something to do with .. a physical action? yope a daily need? yes travel process? yesish accomodations? no work? yesish leisure? yesish daily routine? yes dining? no speaking a language? no Korean customs? no Korean law? no other law? no electricity? no driving? no transportation? no money? no communication? no phone? no email? no television? no clothing? no shopping? no hygiene? no medical? noish did you solve the problem by yourself? yope did you need help to solve the problem?yope help from one person? no was there a new situation from which a problem developed? yes could the situation have happened at home? noish | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1084 Registered: 6-2001 |
Was it impossible to have this particular problem in Korea? Anywhere in the world? Did you read something which helped you solve the problem? | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 514 Registered: 6-2007 |
was it something to do with commuting? did you solve the problem by buying something? paying for something? by acquiring information? did something unexpected happen to you? expected? did you need medical attention? was your well-being relevant? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2548 Registered: 8-2001 |
Bentarm (Bentarm) New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1084 Registered: 6-2001 Posted on Monday, September 03, 2007 - 6:51 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Was it impossible to have this particular problem in Korea? yes Anywhere in the world? yes Did you read something which helped you solve the problem? no Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight) New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 514 Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 2:52 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) was it something to do with commuting? yes did you solve the problem by buying something? no paying for something? no by acquiring information? no did something unexpected happen to you? yope expected? yope did you need medical attention? no was your well-being relevant? yes | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 674 Registered: 1-2007 |
Are seat belts relevant? Something to do with identification while travelling? Was the commute by Train? Bus? Tube? Taxi? other? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2551 Registered: 8-2001 |
Peter365 (Peter365) New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 674 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 12:49 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Are seat belts relevant? no Something to do with identification while travelling? no Was the commute by Train? no Bus? no Tube? no Taxi? no other? yes | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 134 Registered: 8-2007 |
commuting on foot? walking? running? or using a vehicle? cycling? motorised? motorbike? car? if vehicle; were you the driver? or a passenger? | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 548 Registered: 6-2007 |
was it by ferry? rickshaw? pedicab? was your safety an issue? health at risk? initially, did something unexpected happen to you? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2554 Registered: 8-2001 |
Suido (Suido) New member Username: Suido Post Number: 134 Registered: 8-2007 Posted on Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 8:42 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) commuting on foot? no walking no running? no or using a vehicle?yes cycling? no motorised? no motorbike? no car? no if vehicle; were you the driver? no or a passenger? yes Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight) New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 548 Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Sunday, September 09, 2007 - 1:29 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) was it by ferry? no rickshaw? no pedicab? no was your safety an issue? no health at risk? no initially, did something unexpected happen to you? no | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 904 Registered: 9-2003 |
was it a tram? were there too many people in the vehicle? was the vehicle involved in an accident? | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 139 Registered: 8-2007 |
did the vehicle travel on land? it's not motorised - it doesn't use any form of electric/fuel powered motor? is it pulled by animals? humans? it it pushed by animals? humans? just saw this in your response to Sixtyeights 500th post: transportation? no is that correct? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2559 Registered: 8-2001 |
Suido (Suido) New member Username: Suido Post Number: 139 Registered: 8-2007 Posted on Monday, September 10, 2007 - 1:51 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) did the vehicle travel on land? no it's not motorised - it is motorized it doesn't use any form of electric/fuel powered motor? see above is it pulled by animals? no humans? no it it pushed by animals? no humans? no just saw this in your response to Sixtyeights 500th post: transportation? no is that correct? NO THAT WAS A BLOOOOOOOPERRRRRRR | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 173 Registered: 8-2007 |
Nimue, tut tut, revealing two bloopers in one post: or using a vehicle?yes cycling? no motorised?no it's not motorised - it is motorized does it travel on land? on water? in the air? does it have wheels? is it a truck? is it a van? do you sit while you are a passenger? stand? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2562 Registered: 8-2001 |
Suido (Suido) New member Username: Suido Post Number: 173 Registered: 8-2007 Posted on Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 11:50 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Nimue, tut tut, revealing two bloopers in one post: Why, thank you for your gracious reaction or using a vehicle?yes cycling? no motorised?no it's not motorised - it is motorized it is!! does it travel on land? noish on water? yes in the air? yes--it's an airplane!! does it have wheels? I think so is it a truck?no is it a van? no do you sit while you are a passenger? yes stand? no | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2569 Registered: 8-2001 |
HINT: Find out the particular instance of air travel I am referring to | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 148 Registered: 9-2007 |
Err, did nature call? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2572 Registered: 8-2001 |
Noobdogg (Noobdogg) New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 148 Registered: 9-2007 Posted on Saturday, September 15, 2007 - 6:58 pm: Err, did nature call? No, I did not need to go where the Queen goes alone | ||
| Suido (Suido)
New member Username: Suido Post Number: 203 Registered: 8-2007 |
were you flying to Korea? From Korea? an internal flight? to a country other than your own and Korea? it travels on water - a seaplane? did you get seasick on a plane when the plane landed on water? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2574 Registered: 8-2001 |
Suido (Suido) New member Username: Suido Post Number: 203 Registered: 8-2007 Posted on Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 2:25 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) were you flying to Korea? yes From Korea? no an internal flight? no to a country other than your own and Korea? no it travels on water - a seaplane? irrel did you get seasick on a plane when the plane landed on water? no | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1099 Registered: 6-2001 |
is your visa relevant? Your reason for going to Korea? Did you have trouble before you landed? Before you took off? Did everyone else on the plane have the same problem as you? Anyone else? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2579 Registered: 8-2001 |
Bentarm (Bentarm) New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1099 Registered: 6-2001 Posted on Monday, September 17, 2007 - 11:02 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) is your visa relevant?no Your reason for going to Korea? noish Did you have trouble before you landed? no Before you took off? no Did everyone else on the plane have the same problem as you?very unlikely Anyone else? I don't know but probably | ||
| Zenith (Zenith)
New member Username: Zenith Post Number: 452 Registered: 10-2004 |
Was your flight route relevent: did you fly over North Korea? Was an overly-enthusiastic imagination a relevent factor? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2582 Registered: 8-2001 |
Zenith (Zenith) New member Username: Zenith Post Number: 452 Registered: 10-2004 Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 2:33 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Was your flight route relevent no: did you fly over North Korea? irrel Was an overly-enthusiastic imagination a relevent factor? no | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 906 Registered: 6-2005 |
Is it relevant what sort of airplane you were flying in? Commercial? Private? Is it relevant what the name of the airline was? Was your problem impossible because you weren't in any country, but international airspace? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2585 Registered: 8-2001 |
Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet) New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 906 Registered: 6-2005 Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 4:18 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is it relevant what sort of airplane you were flying in? no Commercial? irrelPrivate? irrel Is it relevant what the name of the airline was? no Was your problem impossible because you weren't in any country, but international airspace? no | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2591 Registered: 8-2001 |
Think about a frequent problem travelers face. | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 222 Registered: 9-2007 |
Lost Baggage? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2597 Registered: 8-2001 |
Noobdogg (Noobdogg) New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 222 Registered: 9-2007 Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 7:01 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Lost Baggage? no | ||
| Alanlin (Alanlin)
New member Username: Alanlin Post Number: 13 Registered: 6-2007 |
delays? | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 628 Registered: 4-2007 |
Jetlag? Are any time differences relevant? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2600 Registered: 8-2001 |
Alanlin (Alanlin) New member Username: Alanlin Post Number: 13 Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 7:23 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) delays?see below Enjay (Enjay) New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 628 Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 7:30 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Jetlag?YES!! Are any time differences relevant? YES!! SO WHAT IMPOSSIBLE CLAIM DID I MAKE??? | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2074 Registered: 2-2001 |
That you'd time-traveled? Taken a journey for a net negative amount of time? | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 629 Registered: 4-2007 |
Something like "I left two hours before I set out"? "I feel like it's yesterday morning"? Should we find out the time difference between Korea and where you live? | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 630 Registered: 4-2007 |
Sorry, in that previous post I meant to say "I arrived two hours before I left" | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2602 Registered: 8-2001 |
Bodo (Bodo) New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2074 Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 9:41 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) That you'd time-traveled? no Taken a journey for a net negative amount of time? no Enjay (Enjay) New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 629 Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 9:48 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Something like "I left two hours before I set out"? no "I feel like it's yesterday morning"? no Should we find out the time difference between Korea and where you live? Yes & it's 13 hours. Now solve the puzzle!!!!! | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 631 Registered: 4-2007 |
Relevant that that is more than 12 hours? So there is a difference of more than a day? Do you arrive the day before you set off? Or the day afetr you should arrive? Did yo feel like it was 6 in the morning when it was 6 at night? Sorry...thinking about time differences always gets me confused...maybe someone with a clearer head at this time of night could help solve this one! | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2075 Registered: 2-2001 |
This time of night?!??! It's only 14:08! (: It's 13 hours earlier than Maine, right? So youR days and nights were reversed? You wanted to sleep during the day and be awake all night? Vice-versa? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2605 Registered: 8-2001 |
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 631 Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 9:53 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Relevant that that is more than 12 hours? yes So there is a difference of more than a day? no Do you arrive the day before you set off?yes Or the day afetr you should arrive? no Did yo feel like it was 6 in the morning when it was 6 at night? yes Sorry...thinking about time differences always gets me confused...maybe someone with a clearer head at this time of night could help solve this one! Bodo (Bodo) New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2075 Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 10:09 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) This time of night?!??! It's only 14:08! (: It's 13 hours earlier than Maine, right? no, it's 13 hours later in Seoul than in Maine (or Rhode Island, where I live) So youR days and nights were reversed? yes You wanted to sleep during the day and be awake all night? yes Vice-versa? ditto HINT: You're all so near & yet so far--you keep veering away from the crucial point!! | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 633 Registered: 4-2007 |
Maybe it's 14:08 where YOU live...but here I go again, getting all confused :-) So, just to clear this up, was the impossibility in what you said thatit sounded like you had the ability to time travel? Did the people you were talking to not know about the time difference? Was the problem tyou told them about feeling jetlagged? Feeling like days and nights werwe reversed? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2607 Registered: 8-2001 |
Enjay (Enjay) New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 633 Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 10:20 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Maybe it's 14:08 where YOU live...but here I go again, getting all confused :-) So, just to clear this up, was the impossibility in what you said thatit sounded like you had the ability to time travel? no!!!!!Did the people you were talking to not know about the time difference? they knew& they were right in criticizing me Was the problem tyou told them about feeling jetlagged? yes, but I got more specific Feeling like days and nights werwe reversed? ditto | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1109 Registered: 6-2001 |
would your claim have been possible if you'd made the journey in the other direction? | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1110 Registered: 6-2001 |
(by which, of course, I mean flown from Seoul to Rhode Island, rather than just flying round the world the other way :-)) | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2608 Registered: 8-2001 |
Bentarm (Bentarm) New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1109 Registered: 6-2001 Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 10:41 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) would your claim have been possible if you'd made the journey in the other direction? yes Bentarm (Bentarm) New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1110 Registered: 6-2001 Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 10:41 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) (by which, of course, I mean flown from Seoul to Rhode Island, rather than just flying round the world the other way :-))Yes. By the way, what are you up to these days, Bentarm? I assume you graduated univ. awhile ago?? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 766 Registered: 1-2007 |
Is the date on which you arrived relevant? What i mean is maybe you left in June but arrived in May? Day of the week relevant? | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1131 Registered: 6-2001 |
I have graduated... twice in fact (A BSc and an MSc), but I'm still at university, just started a PhD in London this week Is it relevant what time of day you travelled? Overnight? through the day? (actually, I suppose these concepts are pretty meaningless....) Is it relevant what time of day you left? Morning? evening? afternoon? night? relevant what time of day you arrived? morning? evening? afternoon? night? Being 13 hours ahead is roughly equivalent to being 11 hours behind... if the international dateline was moved so that Seoul was in fact 11 hours behind, could you have the problem flying from RI to Seoul? Did you arrive the same day as you left? On the way back, you could arrive the day before you left - is this relevant? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2611 Registered: 8-2001 |
Bentarm (Bentarm) New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1131 Registered: 6-2001 Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 3:31 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) I have graduated... twice in fact (A BSc and an MSc), but I'm still at university, just started a PhD in London this week Congratulation!! What's your field?? Is it relevant what time of day you travelled? no Overnight? through the day? (actually, I suppose these concepts are pretty meaningless....) Is it relevant what time of day you left?no Morning? evening? afternoon? night? relevant what time of day you arrived? no morning? evening? afternoon? night? Being 13 hours ahead is roughly equivalent to being 11 hours behind... if the international dateline was moved so that Seoul was in fact 11 hours behind, could you have the problem flying from RI to Seoul? yes Did you arrive the same day as you left? no On the way back, you could arrive the day before you left - is this relevant? no | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2078 Registered: 2-2001 |
I'm guessing something to do with mathematics, but I could be mistaken. So your complaint was basically about the time difference and feeling like you should be asleep during the day and awake at night (at least initially), correct? And several people objected to that on logical grounds? Would it have mattered if you had gone from anywhere to anywhere else that was 13 hours ahead? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2612 Registered: 8-2001 |
Bodo (Bodo) New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2078 Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 7:17 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) I'm guessing something to do with mathematics yes, but I could be mistaken you aren't!!. So your complaint was basically about the time difference yesand feeling like you should be asleep during the day and awake at night (at least initially), correct? yesish but--you need to get more specificAnd several people objected to that on logical grounds? see previous answer Would it have mattered if you had gone from anywhere to anywhere else that was 13 hours ahead?any pairs of such places would be fine | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2081 Registered: 2-2001 |
So you weren't describing it in a "literal, matter-of-fact way"? Or were you too literal? Was there a different way of interpreting what you said when describing your problem? Your complaint, along the lines of "Because it was 13 hours ahead, the jet lag was terrible"? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2613 Registered: 8-2001 |
Bodo (Bodo) New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2081 Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 7:37 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) So you weren't describing it in a "literal, matter-of-fact way"?I thought I was., but what I was saying could not be literally true Or were you too literal? Was there a different way of interpreting what you said when describing your problem?yope Your complaint, along the lines of "Because it was 13 hours ahead, the jet lag was terrible"? You're ORT, but you need to find out more precisely what I said | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2084 Registered: 2-2001 |
That's where I'm headed, just waiting on the Aha! moment, so in the meantime I plod on... Were you somehow implying that night became day and/or vice versa? Were the objecting folks being pedantic? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2614 Registered: 8-2001 |
Bodo (Bodo) New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2084 Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 7:51 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) That's where I'm headed, just waiting on the Aha! moment, so in the meantime I plod on... Were you somehow implying that night became day and/or vice versa? noWere the objecting folks being pedantic? no | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1139 Registered: 6-2001 |
So you arrived the day after you left? Is this relevant? Did you say anything about morning? evening? Is it relevant how long the flight took? Did you land at about the same time as you set off, but a day later? Did you say something that implied the flight had taken no time at all? | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1140 Registered: 6-2001 |
Oh - the title of my research grant is "Approximate Counting in Constraint Satisfaction Problems". It's an area which sort of combines combinatorics, logic and computability, if that is in any way enlightening | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2615 Registered: 8-2001 |
Bentarm (Bentarm) New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1139 Registered: 6-2001 Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 9:00 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) So you arrived the day after you left? no Is this relevant? yope Did you say anything about morning? no evening? no Is it relevant how long the flight took? noishDid you land at about the same time as you set off, but a day later? no Did you say something that implied the flight had taken no time at all? no Bentarm (Bentarm) New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1140 Registered: 6-2001 Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 9:01 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Oh - the title of my research grant is "Approximate Counting in Constraint Satisfaction Problems". It's an area which sort of combines combinatorics, logic and computability, if that is in any way enlightening To me?? You're kidding, right?? | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1142 Registered: 6-2001 |
If you didn't arrive the same day as you left, and you didn't arrive the day after you left, you must have arrive two days later right? relevant? (you can't arrive in Korea the day before you left Rhode Island - in Korea now it's Tuesday morning (about 5, I think) and in Rhode Island now it's still Monday afternoon. (about 4?)) | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2617 Registered: 8-2001 |
Bentarm (Bentarm) New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1142 Registered: 6-2001 Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 9:20 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) If you didn't arrive the same day as you left, and you didn't arrive the day after you left, you must have arrive two days later right? yes relevant? yope (you can't arrive in Korea the day before you left Rhode Island - in Korea now it's Tuesday morning (about 5, I think) and in Rhode Island now it's still Monday afternoon. (about 4?)) That's right | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1166 Registered: 6-2001 |
So presumably you left just before midnight and arrived just after midnight... Did you sleep on the plane? relevant? If you left Seoul just before midnight and arrived in RI just after midnight the day after (ie, the journey had ostensibly taken about 10 minutes or so) could you have had the problem you claimed to have? If you'd made that journey but leaving at midday and landing just after midday? In your statement, did you mention the length of the journey? The time it had seemingly taken? Did you mention what time it was when you left? what time it was when you landed? What day it was when you left? What day it was when you landed? I can't remember if this has been asked... was the length of the journey relevant? presumably something more than 11 hours... | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2619 Registered: 8-2001 |
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1166 Registered: 6-2001 Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 6:02 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) So presumably you left just before midnight and arrived just after midnight... Did you sleep on the plane? relevant? If you left Seoul just before midnight and arrived in RI just after midnight the day after (ie, the journey had ostensibly taken about 10 minutes or so) could you have had the problem you claimed to have? If you'd made that journey but leaving at midday and landing just after midday? In your statement, did you mention the length of the journey?noish The time it had seemingly taken? no Did you mention what time it was when you left? no what time it was when you landed? no What day it was when you left? no What day it was when you landed? no I can't remember if this has been asked... was the length of the journey relevant?only the time difference is relevant presumably something more than 11 hours | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 631 Registered: 6-2007 |
If you were "beamed up" instead of flown, would the same "impossible problem" exist? If you had used "military time" in your problem description, would that have affected the clarity of the statement? did your statement contain.. "I was 13 hours ahead?" "but.."? "I gained" "I lost" anything like the statement "it was tomorrow"? a mix of tenses? mathematical inequality? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2621 Registered: 8-2001 |
Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 631 Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Friday, September 28, 2007 - 1:29 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) If you were "beamed up" instead of flown, would the same "impossible problem" exist? If you had used "military time" in your problem description, would that have affected the clarity of the statement? no did your statement contain.. "I was 13 hours ahead?" "but.."? No, buit it dids contain '13'--HINT!!!!!!"I gained" no"I lost" no anything like the statement "it was tomorrow"? no a mix of tenses? no mathematical inequality? no | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 647 Registered: 6-2007 |
so you were describing your jet lag problem using the word 13 which represents the hours of time difference between your home and Korea. did you say 13 hours? 13 hour difference? would you have had the same problem if the difference was 12 hours? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2626 Registered: 8-2001 |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight) New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 647 Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 1:52 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) so you were describing your jet lag problem using the word 13 which represents the hours of time difference between your home and Korea. yes did you say 13 hours? yes 13 hour difference? no would you have had the same problem if the difference was 12 hours? no | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 266 Registered: 9-2007 |
Anything to do with the number 13 being unlucky? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2628 Registered: 8-2001 |
Noobdogg (Noobdogg) New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 266 Registered: 9-2007 Posted on Monday, October 01, 2007 - 6:03 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Anything to do with the number 13 being unlucky? no. By the way, 13 is not unlucky in Korea. 4 is | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 275 Registered: 9-2007 |
Was the problem only related to the sleep cycle alteration aspect of jetlag? OR some other symptoms? would you have had the same problem if the difference was 12 hours? no But you still maintain that it was impossible to have that problem in the first place. Correct? Could you also answer the following questions that I have found you have missed of other users in previous posts pls: If you were "beamed up" instead of flown, would the same "impossible problem" exist? Did you sleep on the plane? relevant? If you left Seoul just before midnight and arrived in RI just after midnight the day after (ie, the journey had ostensibly taken about 10 minutes or so) could you have had the problem you claimed to have? If you'd made that journey but leaving at midday and landing just after midday? In your statement, did you mention the length of the journey?noish Is the -ish because you could have only had the problem if you had travelled there by plane? Was it to do with problems you were facing in your own sleep cycle, such as sleep deprivation or tiredness during the day? Or something related to sleep? Say an alarm clock? Maybe you made a claim about your watch? This is a stupid guess, but maybe you have a standard 12 hour watch, and you claimed it was annoying to twist the dial 13 whole cycles, when all you needed to do was twist it once. | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2633 Registered: 8-2001 |
Noobdogg (Noobdogg) New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 275 Registered: 9-2007 Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 8:03 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Was the problem only related to the sleep cycle alteration aspect of jetlag? irrel OR some other symptoms? irrel as long as it's jetlag would you have had the same problem if the difference was 12 hours? no But you still maintain that it was impossible to have that problem in the first place. Correct? yes. THe point is that the puzzle wouldn't work if the time difference were 12 hours} Could you also answer the following questions that I have found you have missed of other users in previous posts pls: If you were "beamed up" instead of flown, would the same "impossible problem" exist? yes Did you sleep on the plane? irrel relevant? no If you left Seoul just before midnight and arrived in RI just after midnight the day after (ie, the journey had ostensibly taken about 10 minutes or so) could you have had the problem you claimed to have? no If you'd made that journey but leaving at midday and landing just after midday? no In your statement, did you mention the length of the journey?noish Is the -ish because you could have only had the problem if you had travelled there by plane? No--it's because I mentioned the time difference, which is related to the distance & hence to the lenght of the journey Was it to do with problems you were facing in your own sleep cycle, such as sleep deprivation or tiredness during the day? irrel Or something related to sleep? ditto Say an alarm clock? no Maybe you made a claim about your watch? no This is a stupid guess, but maybe you have a standard 12 hour watch, and you claimed it was annoying to twist the dial 13 whole cycles, when all you needed to do was twist it once. no | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 652 Registered: 4-2007 |
Would the puzzle work if the time difference was 14 hours? 20 hours? 13 hours and 1 minute (hypothetically)? 12 hours and 59 minutes? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2634 Registered: 8-2001 |
Enjay (Enjay) New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 652 Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 10:03 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Would the puzzle work if the time difference was 14 hours? yes 20 hours? no 13 hours and 1 minute (hypothetically)? yes 12 hours and 59 minutes? yes | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1265 Registered: 6-2001 |
Is it relevant that 13 hours is over half a day? That it's only just over half a day? That if you wait 13 hours you've gone from day to night? (in most places) | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2636 Registered: 8-2001 |
Bentarm (Bentarm) New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1265 Registered: 6-2001 Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 12:13 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is it relevant that 13 hours is over half a day? yes That it's only just over half a day? yes That if you wait 13 hours you've gone from day to night? (in most places) noish | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 696 Registered: 6-2007 |
so can this be spoyled with a single sentence? did the statement start with "13 hours"? did it contain "13 hours is"? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2637 Registered: 8-2001 |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight) New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 696 Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 1:47 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) so can this be spoyled with a single sentence? yes did the statement start with "13 hours"?It could be phrased that way, but that would be an awkward phrasing) did it contain "13 hours is" ditto | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 748 Registered: 6-2007 |
so then it would sound natural to end with "13 hours"? in the statement did you mention something about jet lag? is it a complaint? did you say "I had"? "I was"? when you describe the problem, does the listener "do math"? | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 1028 Registered: 9-2003 |
haven't really been checking previous answers, so sorry if I repeat anything, but is there something about arriving before you left? i.e. if you left at 2 and arrived at 1? | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1327 Registered: 6-2001 |
Did you mention the fact that the time difference was more than half a day? Did you mention something about it seeming to take more than half a day to get there? Just to clarify, it would have been possible to have this particular problem going from Seoul to RI, right? So that means it's relevant not just that you moved the clock 13 hours, but that you had to move it 13 hours forward? Did what you say involve the concept of "losing" those 13 hours? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2675 Registered: 8-2001 |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight) New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 748 Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Monday, October 08, 2007 - 4:14 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) so then it would sound natural to end with "13 hours"? That's possible, but there's an even more natural phrasing that uses'13 hours' but doesn't end with it in the statement did you mention something about jet lag? yes is it a complaint? yes did you say "I had"? no "I was"? no when you describe the problem, does the listener "do math"? yesish ~damia~ (~damia~) New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 1028 Registered: 9-2003 Posted on Monday, October 08, 2007 - 9:35 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) haven't really been checking previous answers, so sorry if I repeat anything, but is there something about arriving before you left? no i.e. if you left at 2 and arrived at 1? no Bentarm (Bentarm) New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1327 Registered: 6-2001 Posted on Monday, October 08, 2007 - 4:17 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did you mention the fact that the time difference was more than half a day?yope Did you mention something about it seeming to take more than half a day to get there?no Just to clarify, it would have been possible to have this particular problem going from Seoul to RI, right?no. No one could EVER have this partticular problem So that means it's relevant not just that you moved the clock 13 hours, but that you had to move it 13 hours forward?no Did what you say involve the concept of "losing" those 13 hours? no | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1341 Registered: 6-2001 |
So if you'd had to move the clock back 13 hours, might you still have phrased your complaint in broadly the same way? and would it have been wrong for approximately the same reason? When it is pointed out, is it immediately obvious that this problem is impossible to have? Or might it take some working out? Might you have accidentally said what you said replacing "13 hours" with "11 hours" (if you'd been going to somewhere with an 11 hour time difference)? Did you somehow imply that you'd actually lost a whole day? which is impossible because it would involve going all the way around the world, which would of course result in no jet lag at all? | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 911 Registered: 6-2005 |
Did you even have to reset your clock? Did you fly for 13 hours and not even have to reset your clock? (the time your clock moved forward balanced with the time you moved backward? Do you have an analog watch?) Is the more natural phrase "over half a day?" Half a day? Something else? Is it relevant? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2690 Registered: 8-2001 |
Bentarm (Bentarm) New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1341 Registered: 6-2001 Posted on Monday, October 08, 2007 - 10:27 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) So if you'd had to move the clock back 13 hours, might you still have phrased your complaint in broadly the same way? yes and would it have been wrong for approximately the same reason? yes When it is pointed out, is it immediately obvious that this problem is impossible to have? yes Or might it take some working out? no Might you have accidentally said what you said replacing "13 hours" with "11 hours" (if you'd been going to somewhere with an 11 hour time difference)? the puzzle wouldn't work if I said '11 hours' Did you somehow imply that you'd actually lost a whole day? no which is impossible because it would involve going all the way around the world, which would of course result in no jet lag at all? no Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet) New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 911 Registered: 6-2005 Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2007 - 6:56 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did you even have to reset your clock? yes Did you fly for 13 hours and not even have to reset your clock? no(the time your clock moved forward balanced with the time you moved backward? no Do you have an analog watch?irrel Is the more natural phrase "over half a day?" no Half a day? no Something else? yes Is it relevant? yes | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 929 Registered: 6-2005 |
Did you say something along the lines of... "I made time."? "I lost time."? "I chased the sun."? "I spent..." ? "...x hours on a plane..."? "...set my watch back 13 hours..."? "...and all I got was this lousy T-shirt."? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2695 Registered: 8-2001 |
Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet) New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 929 Registered: 6-2005 Posted on Wednesday, October 10, 2007 - 5:25 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did you say something along the lines of... "I made time."? "I lost time."? "I chased the sun."? "I spent..." ? "...x hours on a plane..."? "...set my watch back 13 hours..."? "...and all I got was this lousy T-shirt."? None of the above!! | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1001 Registered: 6-2005 |
Why not finish this one? Because I'm lost! Maybe a recap would help? Did you fly across the international dateline into yesterday? Did that make the 13 hour time difference much more significant? I.e. I got on a plane and before I knew it, it was last week? | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1377 Registered: 6-2001 |
Did you somehow imply that 13 hours was shorter than half a day? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2713 Registered: 8-2001 |
Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet) New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1001 Registered: 6-2005 Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2007 - 11:12 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Why not finish this one? Because I'm lost! Maybe a recap would help? Did you fly across the international dateline into yesterday? no Did that make the 13 hour time difference much more significant? I.e. I got on a plane and before I knew it, it was last week? no Bentarm (Bentarm) New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1377 Registered: 6-2001 Posted on Thursday, October 11, 2007 - 11:39 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did you somehow imply that 13 hours was shorter than half a day? no | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1010 Registered: 6-2005 |
Ok... rereading comments... You had jetlag... did you have some sort of whirlwind tour of Korea?... did something occur that made it impossible for you to sleep for several days on end? Did you claim you had stayed awake for 4 days straight and didn't hallucinate? Did the impossible claim involve... amount of time you were awake? Something to do with your eating cycle? Amount of time you traveled? The time you got somewhere? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2720 Registered: 8-2001 |
Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet) New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1010 Registered: 6-2005 Posted on Friday, October 12, 2007 - 12:12 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Ok... rereading comments... You had jetlag... did you have some sort of whirlwind tour of Korea? No. I flew there, sprend 6 1/2 weeks there & flew back... did something occur that made it impossible for you to sleep for several days on end? no Did you claim you had stayed awake for 4 days straight and didn't hallucinate? no Did the impossible claim involve... amount of time you were awake? no Something to do with your eating cycle? no Amount of time you traveled? no The time you got somewhere? no | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1013 Registered: 6-2005 |
Did you experience no jetlag AT ALL??? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1595 Registered: 8-2006 |
Would other people expect the jetlag to be only be 11 hours if you went around the world, the opposite way? Did you travel east-west or vice versa, or N-S? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2728 Registered: 8-2001 |
Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet) New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1013 Registered: 6-2005 Posted on Friday, October 12, 2007 - 12:28 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did you experience no jetlag AT ALL??? Unfortunately, no (tpo put it mildly!! Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig) New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1595 Registered: 8-2006 Posted on Friday, October 12, 2007 - 12:46 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Would other people expect the jetlag to be only be 11 hours if you went around the world, the opposite way? yes Did you travel east-west or vice versawest-east, or N-S? no | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1392 Registered: 6-2001 |
Is it relevant that you travelled west-east? Oh - presumably you can't actually experience "13 hours worth" of jetlag, as you've actually only moved 11 hours away from whatever time you started off on, is this relevant? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2731 Registered: 8-2001 |
Bentarm (Bentarm) New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1392 Registered: 6-2001 Posted on Friday, October 12, 2007 - 1:09 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is it relevant that you travelled west-east? see below Oh - presumably you can't actually experience "13 hours worth" of jetlag, as you've actually only moved 11 hours away from whatever time you started off on, is this relevant? YES!!! FINALLY!!!!!! The time difference bewteen Rhode Island & Seoul is 13 hours & I had a terrible problem with jet lag, lasting over 2 weeks. I complained continually that i was suffering from 13 hours jet lag until, of course, someone pointed out that there's no such thing as more than 12 hours jet lag. THanks for sticking with it, everyone, & for solving it, Bentarm, but why on earth did it take so much longer than many of my puzzles I considered much harder? Anyone, there's a new one awaiting you--guess where. | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2733 Registered: 8-2001 |
***********SPOILER *********** SEE PREVIOUS POSTING | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1401 Registered: 6-2001 |
Finally! I too have no idea why that took so long... I guess we were all looking for something more complicated when the answer was right there in just about every post! |
