| Author | Message | ||
| Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
New member Username: Tsoram1970 Post Number: 539 Registered: 6-2001 |
The second thought the third was still going. That he wasn't is merely a coincidence | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 948 Registered: 9-2003 |
is the second h? a? m? is the third h? a? m? = he? is the first relevant? any others relevant? is this the order they finish something? start something? buy something? sell something? any jobs relevant? going = going to a country? a city? town? village? landmark? game? event? going by foot? ground vehicle? plane? boat? | ||
| Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
New member Username: Tsoram1970 Post Number: 541 Registered: 6-2001 |
~Damia~: is the second h? a? m? yes to all three is the third h? a? m? = he? Yes to all is the first relevant?No any others relevant? No is this the order they finish something?Not exactly start something?yes but not exactly buy something?No sell something?No any jobs relevant? Yes! going = going to a country? a city? town? village? landmark? game? event?No to all hmm... going by foot? ground vehicle? plane? boat?Do I FA so early??...Yes! FA! | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 951 Registered: 9-2003 |
lol ok then so going doesn't mean travelling? does it mean about to leave? that he was moving? going to be fired from the job? going as in dying? is the job artistic/musical/writer? Banking/financial/real estate? Clerical/Administrative? Computer related / Hardware ? Construction / Craftsman ? Education / Academic Research ? Entertainment / Media ? Executive / Management ? Hospitality / Travel ? Legal Services ? Manufacturing / Distributions ? Medical / Health Services ? Politics / Government / Military ? Sales / Marketing ? Technical / Science / Engineering ? Teaching / Child care? Transportation ? Food Service ? Sports? Entertainment? Jailbird / Criminal? Religion? Other? | ||
| Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
New member Username: Tsoram1970 Post Number: 544 Registered: 6-2001 |
~Damia~: lol ok then so going doesn't mean travelling?Correct! does it mean about to leave?No that he was moving?No going to be fired from the job?No going as in dying?No...but you're a lot closer to the puzzle.... is the job artistic/musical/writer? Banking/financial/real estate? Clerical/Administrative? Computer related / Hardware ? Construction / Craftsman ? Education / Academic Research ? Entertainment / Media ? Executive / Management ? Hospitality / Travel ? Legal Services ? Manufacturing / Distributions ? Medical / Health Services ? Politics / Government / Military ? This one Sales / Marketing ? Technical / Science / Engineering ? Teaching / Child care? Transportation ? Food Service ? Sports? Entertainment? Jailbird / Criminal? Religion? Other? | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 953 Registered: 9-2003 |
is it politics? government? military? if its one of the first, does going mean leaving the office? resigning? retiring? | ||
| Zenith (Zenith)
New member Username: Zenith Post Number: 458 Registered: 10-2004 |
Does 'going' refer to an action still in play? not necessarily movement per se, but perhaps an action that has a logical and chronological method to it, such as a test or a game play? Is the First relevent? if so: has they 'gone' already?, about to 'go'? No-one moves, correct? However is movement implied (i.e. virtual reality simulation?) Just checking: 'he' relates to the third? If I replace the word 'coincidence' with 'accident', would I still be describing the same situation? (My train of thought: 2 believes something about 3. However, this belief is labelled coincidental, indicating that 2 has no communication with 3 with which to verify this assumption, making it open ended. However, it IS labelled a coincidence, wich means it is coincidental that 2 is wrong, which rarely defines a coincidence! Perhaps 2 really should be right, it is just accidental that 3 is not still going and consequently 2 is wrong!) apologies for a long winded, verbose dose of crazy-logic! Or is it really a coincidence that the second is wrong? | ||
| Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
New member Username: Tsoram1970 Post Number: 548 Registered: 6-2001 |
~Damia~: is it politics? government? military? Poltics and Government if its one of the first, does going mean leaving the office? resigning? retiring?No Zenith: Does 'going' refer to an action still in play? Yesnot necessarily movement per se, but perhaps an action that has a logical and chronological method to it, such as a test or a game play?No Is the First relevent?No if so: has they 'gone' already?They had but FA, about to 'go'? No-one moves, correct?Correct However is movement implied (i.e. virtual reality simulation?) No Just checking: 'he' relates to the third? Yes If I replace the word 'coincidence' with 'accident', would I still be describing the same situation? Not really (My train of thought: 2 believes something about 3. However, this belief is labelled coincidental, indicating that 2 has no communication with 3 with which to verify this assumption, making it open ended. However, it IS labelled a coincidence, wich means it is coincidental that 2 is wrong, which rarely defines a coincidence! Perhaps 2 really should be right, it is just accidental that 3 is not still going and consequently 2 is wrong!) apologies for a long winded, verbose dose of crazy-logic! If I have followed it correctly (and I think I have) this is wrong... and became so fairly early on...with another FA... Or is it really a coincidence that the second is wrong?No...this is NOT the coincidence... | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 958 Registered: 9-2003 |
did someone tell second that third was still going? do second and third communicate at all? | ||
| Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
New member Username: Tsoram1970 Post Number: 563 Registered: 6-2001 |
did someone tell second that third was still going?No do second and third communicate at all?I'm sure they did, after a fashion...but not in this case... | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 964 Registered: 9-2003 |
is second a politician? is third? are they second and third in terms of importance? i.e. like second in importance in their particular part of government? is the country they are politicians in relevant? | ||
| Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
New member Username: Tsoram1970 Post Number: 572 Registered: 6-2001 |
is second a politician?Yes is third?Yes are they second and third in terms of importance?No i.e. like second in importance in their particular part of government?No is the country they are politicians in relevant?Yes | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 966 Registered: 9-2003 |
ok is it America? Europe? would second take over thirds work if he left? are their jobs similar? are there any relevant deaths here? injuries? illness? | ||
| Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
New member Username: Tsoram1970 Post Number: 581 Registered: 6-2001 |
~Damia~: ok is it America?Yes...USA Europe?No would second take over thirds work if he left?No are their jobs similar?Yes, but may mislead are there any relevant deaths here?YES! injuries?No illness?probably but not really relevant | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 972 Registered: 9-2003 |
does second die? does third? | ||
| Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
New member Username: Tsoram1970 Post Number: 615 Registered: 6-2001 |
does second die?yes does third?Yes...be careful | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 975 Registered: 9-2003 |
hmm ok does second die by murder? accident? suicide? old age? natural causes? same questions for third | ||
| Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
New member Username: Tsoram1970 Post Number: 622 Registered: 6-2001 |
~Damia~: hmm ok does second die by murder? accident? suicide? old age? natural causes?Old age same questions for third The same...Old Age | ||
| Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
New member Username: Tsoram1970 Post Number: 623 Registered: 6-2001 |
~Damia~: hmm ok does second die by murder? accident? suicide? old age? natural causes?Old age same questions for third The same...Old Age | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 764 Registered: 1-2007 |
Wopuld this have to do with John Adams and Thomas jefferson who both died on the 4th July in the same year. I believe Adams last words were something like "Thomas Jefferson lives " unaware that Jefferson had died earlier that day. My only doubt is whether they were the 2nd & 3rd presidents. | ||
| Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
New member Username: Tsoram1970 Post Number: 644 Registered: 6-2001 |
Wopuld this have to do with John Adams and Thomas jefferson who both died on the 4th July in the same year. I believe Adams last words were something like "Thomas Jefferson lives " unaware that Jefferson had died earlier that day. My only doubt is whether they were the 2nd & 3rd presidents. And of course they were... You have it exactly... the only thing remains to say... **********Spoiler************* John Adams the Second President of the US died on the same day as Thomas Jefferson the Third president of the US. John Adams died expresssing the belief that Jefferson lives... even though Jefferson had died some hours before him. Not just was it July 4th but it was July 4th 1826... 50 years since each had signed the declaration of independence So The Second died thinking the third was going... and that he wasn't was a co-incidence | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 765 Registered: 1-2007 |
A nice puzzle Tom. I've always been struck by the "timeliness" of their deaths given the historical day they chose to shake of the mortal coil. Lots of good websites out there with the last words of the great and not so great. Tons of potential puzzles there no doubt. BTW i'm sure you'll return the favour and shortly spoyle my "Something for the weekend" | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 978 Registered: 9-2003 |
well I'd never have gotten that!! funny coincidence tho!! | ||
| Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
New member Username: Tsoram1970 Post Number: 648 Registered: 6-2001 |
That's the fun of these puzzles though init... by asking questions and chipping away you get to the truth....OK Peter got there in one fell swoop, but you were on the way there... I was waiting for you to start asking about the job... and then you'd have been well on the way! Well done BTW on great groundwork. |
