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Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
New member Username: Tsoram1970
Post Number: 564 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 12:25 pm: |      |
I often find myself making a comment pointing out the quite obvious fact that two particular dissimilar entities are not, in fact, the same. Why would I do this so often? inspired by Beccaann's puzzle...normally I give these away and then have to wait ages, but I held myself back this time...Enjoy! |
Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard
Post Number: 529 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 5:53 pm: |      |
Are the entities living? And they, in fact, words? That sound alike? or look alike? Are you pointing it out to other people? Are you a teacher? |
Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
New member Username: Tsoram1970
Post Number: 588 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 5:55 pm: |      |
Are the entities living? made up of living things yes And they, in fact, words?Not words That sound alike?no or look alike?No Are you pointing it out to other people?Comment is made in general Are you a teacher?No |
Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard
Post Number: 531 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 6:02 pm: |      |
The entities made up of people? Political groups? Companies? Military organizations? Social groups? Minority groups? Religious groups? Economic stratifications? |
Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
New member Username: Tsoram1970
Post Number: 590 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 6:30 pm: |      |
Wildcard: The entities made up of people? Political groups? Companies? Military organizations? Social groups? Minority groups? Religious groups? Economic stratifications?None of these |
Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard
Post Number: 532 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 6:39 pm: |      |
Entities are living? Programs/software? Food? Buildings? Entities are used by people? Mode of transportation? Man made? Naturally occuring? |
Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
New member Username: Tsoram1970
Post Number: 592 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 7:13 pm: |      |
WildCard: Entities are living? Sorry Wildcard... my previous answer (None of These) refered only to the groups you mentionned -Made up of people should have been a yes. Programs/software? Food? Buildings? Entities are used by people? Mode of transportation? Man made? Naturally occuring?no to rest *****BLOOPER ALERT******* The entities made up of people? answer should be Yes |
Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard
Post Number: 534 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 7:26 pm: |      |
Relevant how many people make up each entity? Only one in each entity? Are sterotypes relevant? Minorities? Gender bias? Political parties? Professions on these entities relevant? Difference relevant to physical features? Beliefs? Clothing? Social status? |
Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
New member Username: Tsoram1970
Post Number: 594 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 7:30 pm: |      |
Wildcard: Relevant how many people make up each entity?Might help Only one in each entity?no Are sterotypes relevant? yessish Minorities? No Gender bias? No Political parties? No Professions on these entities relevant?Yes Difference relevant to physical features? No Beliefs? No Clothing? No Social status?No |
Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
New member Username: Tsoram1970
Post Number: 595 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 7:31 pm: |      |
Be careful though..pursuing stereotypes will probably lead down a false avenue. |
Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard
Post Number: 536 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 7:40 pm: |      |
Entities are labor unions? Some other professional organization? Sports teams? You explaining to non-fan that teams are different? |
Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
New member Username: Tsoram1970
Post Number: 597 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 8:07 pm: |      |
Wildcard: Entities are labor unions? no Some other professional organization?No Sports teams? YES! You explaining to non-fan that teams are different?Not exactly |
Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann
Post Number: 1672 Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 8:54 pm: |      |
Football (Soccer) vs. Football (American)? |
Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
New member Username: Tsoram1970
Post Number: 603 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 8:58 pm: |      |
Beccaann: Football (Soccer) vs. Football (American)?Football (Soccer) |
Obaone (Obaone)
New member Username: Obaone
Post Number: 11 Registered: 9-2007
| | Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 9:14 pm: |      |
Do you have to explain something about team names? League names? Players? Jerseys? Rules of the game? Cultural differences relevant? Language differences? |
Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
New member Username: Tsoram1970
Post Number: 605 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 9:51 pm: |      |
Obaone: Do you have to explain something about team names?No League names?No Players?No Jerseys?No Rules of the game?No Cultural differences relevant?No Language differences?No The differences are many and obvious... |
Obaone (Obaone)
New member Username: Obaone
Post Number: 13 Registered: 9-2007
| | Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 9:59 pm: |      |
the difference between football and some other sport? or non-sport activity? Are the two entities two teams? |
Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
New member Username: Tsoram1970
Post Number: 607 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 10:01 pm: |      |
Obaone: the difference between football and some other sport?Only one sport involved or non-sport activity?no Are the two entities two teams?Yes...explore... |
Obaone (Obaone)
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Post Number: 14 Registered: 9-2007
| | Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 10:15 pm: |      |
they are obviously different in gender? country? colors? age? League? Level of play? Any of the above particualrly relevant even if they aren't different? |
Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
New member Username: Tsoram1970
Post Number: 609 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 11:07 pm: |      |
they are obviously different in gender?no both male country?YES! colors?probably but irr age?no League?No Level of play?There's a slight difference here yes Any of the above particualrly relevant even if they aren't different?on one hand the level of play isn't different...on the other hand there is a heck of a difference! |
Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard
Post Number: 538 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 11:40 pm: |      |
Is one of the teams a school team? Is one team professional? One team is paid? Is there something different about the fans that is relevant? Are the rules different between the two teams? Is one of the countries not European? Australian? |
Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
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Post Number: 614 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 11:49 pm: |      |
Wildcard: Is one of the teams a school team?No Is one team professional? Both are but ... One team is paid? I think they are all paid Is there something different about the fans that is relevant? Not really fans are fans... Are the rules different between the two teams?No Is one of the countries not European?Correct Yes! Australian?No |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 1036 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2007 - 11:27 am: |      |
Do the teams wear the same strip? Do they have the same name? |
Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
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Post Number: 616 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2007 - 12:12 pm: |      |
Do the teams wear the same strip?no Do they have the same name?No |
Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
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Post Number: 218 Registered: 9-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 6:18 am: |      |
Similar names? (Say like Man U and Man City) Is one of the teams South American? |
Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
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Post Number: 637 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 11:51 am: |      |
Noobdogg: Similar names?No (Say like Man U and Man City) Is one of the teams South American?Yes |
Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo
Post Number: 2072 Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 7:30 pm: |      |
Spanish vs. Portuguese relevant? |
Obaone (Obaone)
New member Username: Obaone
Post Number: 18 Registered: 9-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 9:57 pm: |      |
Club teams or national teams? |
Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
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Post Number: 649 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 11:24 am: |      |
Bodo: Spanish vs. Portuguese relevant?Not at all! Obaone: Club teams or national teams?National! I was waiting for this question ... might go fast now.... |
Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm
Post Number: 1112 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 1:37 pm: |      |
You have to point out that two national teams aren't one and the same... I'm sure I should be able to get this now, but I can't figure it out, so let's go for the traditional LTPF method... Is the South American team Argentina? Brazil? Chile? Ecuador? Bolivia? British Guyana? Dutch Guyana? Colombia? Peru? Paraguay? Uruguay? French Guyana? (I think that's all of them...) Is the European team England? Ireland? Northern Ireland? Wales? Scotland? Spain? France? Italy? Germany? Sweden? Denmark? Norway? Switzerland? Eastern Europe? Western Europe? Are the team kits relevant? Brazil's and Sweden's are similar-ish. |
Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
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Post Number: 661 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 1:41 pm: |      |
Bentarm: You have to point out that two national teams aren't one and the same... I'm sure I should be able to get this now, but I can't figure it out, so let's go for the traditional LTPF method...You're nearly there... Is the South American team Argentina? Brazil?Yes Chile? Ecuador? Bolivia? British Guyana? Dutch Guyana? Colombia? Peru? Paraguay? Uruguay? French Guyana? (I think that's all of them...) Is the European team England? Ireland? Northern Ireland?Yes Wales? Scotland? Spain? France? Italy? Germany? Sweden? Denmark? Norway? Switzerland? Eastern Europe? Western Europe? Are the team kits relevant? Brazil's and Sweden's are similar-ish.Nope Kits are irrelevant |
Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm
Post Number: 1113 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 1:46 pm: |      |
Do you make this comment in jest? Are people ever actually in danger of confusing the Northern Ireland and Brazil football teams? Might you similarly have felt the need to point out that Northern Ireland were not, say, The Netherlands had you been making this comment in the early 70s? |
Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
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Post Number: 663 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 2:02 pm: |      |
Bentarm: Do you make this comment in jest?Yope Are people ever actually in danger of confusing the Northern Ireland and Brazil football teams?Now come on... Might you similarly have felt the need to point out that Northern Ireland were not, say, The Netherlands had you been making this comment in the early 70s?no, but you're along the right lines |
Bentarm (Bentarm)
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Post Number: 1118 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 2:08 pm: |      |
Would you make this comment when Northern Ireland were playing? When Brazil were playing? Would you make this comment after NI lost a match? won a match? Would the comment be in defence of the NI team? eg "Come on, we did pretty well, we're not Brazil you know!" |
Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
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Post Number: 666 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 2:14 pm: |      |
Bentarm: Would you make this comment when Northern Ireland were playing?YES!!!! When Brazil were playing?No Would you make this comment after NI lost a match?Doubtful won a match?Oh certainly! Would the comment be in defence of the NI team? eg "Come on, we did pretty well, we're not Brazil you know!"Not really no Bentarm you are so so close... all I need is why I would be saying it...I am linging up the $poiler now... |
Bentarm (Bentarm)
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Post Number: 1123 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 2:41 pm: |      |
Would you say it after Northern Ireland scored? Would you be making a favourable comparison with Brazil? "Brazil haven't just beaten Sweden 2-1" Would you compare their style of football to Brazil's? Might this work if you compared them to a different country which is famous for being good at football? |
Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
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Post Number: 671 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 2:49 pm: |      |
Bentarm: Would you say it after Northern Ireland scored?without a shadow of a doubt! mind you... "say" it... Would you be making a favourable comparison with Brazil?yes "Brazil haven't just beaten Sweden 2-1" \bNo} Would you compare their style of football to Brazil's? No Might this work if you compared them to a different country which is famous for being good at football?I suppose it might but not every country... Don't focus on what "say" more on why I "say" it! |
Obaone (Obaone)
New member Username: Obaone
Post Number: 24 Registered: 9-2007
| | Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 2:59 pm: |      |
"say"= Shout? Exclaim? Sing? Growl? Whisper? Mime? Communicate via sign language? Say it with a meaningful look? Relay through interprative dance? |
Bentarm (Bentarm)
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Post Number: 1127 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 3:00 pm: |      |
Is it a short phrase? Is the exact wording relevant? Always the same? Might you express the same sentiment in different words? Might it be possible for me to say the same thing having just seen England score (substituting NI for Brazil)? Do you imply that NI are better than Brazil? That certain players are better than certain Brazilian players? Is it relevant that Brazil have won the world cup? that NI haven't? |
Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
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Post Number: 674 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 3:09 pm: |      |
"say"= Shout?This one and... Exclaim?this and... Sing?This one Growl? Whisper? Mime? Communicate via sign language? Say it with a meaningful look? Relay through interprative dance?No to rest Is it a short phrase?not that short Is the exact wording relevant?Yes Always the same?Yes Might you express the same sentiment in different words?Possibly but who would? Might it be possible for me to say the same thing having just seen England score (substituting NI for Brazil)? Dream on! Do you imply that NI are better than Brazil?No That certain players are better than certain Brazilian players?No Is it relevant that Brazil have won the world cup? that NI haven't?Not really |
Obaone (Obaone)
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Post Number: 25 Registered: 9-2007
| | Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 3:17 pm: |      |
Hahaha, OK I know it now...though, I've cheated and looked it up so, perhaps I should let someone else be the spoiler? |
Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
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Post Number: 677 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 3:18 pm: |      |
you may as well...it's so close.... |
Bentarm (Bentarm)
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Post Number: 1128 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 3:18 pm: |      |
Is there some particular song that you regularly sing? Oh - I've heard Sheffield Wednesday fans sing "we're not Brazil, we're Sheffield Wednesday..." (to the tune of Battle Hymn of the Republic). Have they pinched this song off you? (Or vice versa?) |
Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
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Post Number: 678 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 3:23 pm: |      |
I think you just beat Obaone to it.... ************Spoiler************** One of the more recent chants to be heard at Northern Ireland matches... To the battle hymn of the Republic. http://www.irishleagueforums.net/Not_Brazi...ern_Ireland.mp3 We're not Brazil, We're Northern Ireland Mine eyes have seen the glory of Espana "82 When little Northern Ireland Showed the world what we can do Now Lawrie is our leader and we're coming after you And this is what we sing......... (what do we sing?) We're not Brazil, We're Northern Ireland We're not Brazil, We're Northern Ireland We're not Brazil, We're Northern Ireland But it's all the same to me (Ulster) We've beat the Turks, the I'ties and the mighty Germans too The French, The Dutch,our Southern friends all know what we can do and if you know your history, you'll know it could be you and this is what we sing.... (what do we sing?) We're not Brazil, We're Northern Ireland We're not Brazil, We're Northern Ireland We're not Brazil, We're Northern Ireland But it's all the same to me (Ulster) Oh I was only little when my father said to me C'mon we'll go to Windsor to cheer the boys in emerald green The greatest little country that the world has ever seen and this is what he said..... (what did he say?) We're not Brazil, We're Northern Ireland We're not Brazil, We're Northern Ireland We're not Brazil, We're Northern Ireland But it's all the same to me (Ulster) The English boys came over in the year two thousand and five But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise Sir David scored the winner and Windsor Park went wild And this is what we sang..... (what did we sing?) We're not Brazil, We're Northern Ireland We're not Brazil, We're Northern Ireland We're not Brazil, We're Northern Ireland But it's all the same to me
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Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
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Post Number: 679 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 3:24 pm: |      |
thanks to all for playing Good work there! |