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Vesica (Vesica)
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Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2007 - 2:24 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'd forgotten how addicting working on these puzzles is!

Trei never listened to Elenna. She'd been after him for years and he knew she was right. But when Doris showed up one night, Elenna was glad Trei hadn't listened. Why?
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Trei - h/a/m?
Elenna - h/a/f?
Doris - h/a/f?

'never listened to' = 'heard, but didn't take heed'?
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Suido
Trei - h/a/m? Yes
Elenna - h/a/f? Yes
Doris - h/a/f? No

'never listened to' = 'heard, but didn't take heed'? Yes
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Doris: h? a? f?

Trei and Elenna's relationship relevant?
Are they a couple?
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Suido
Doris: h? a? f? No, no, and no

Trei and Elenna's relationship relevant? Not terribly
Are they a couple? No...Let's say mother and son for this one
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Doris - animal? alive? organic?
juvenile? doesn't have an age?
male? doesn't have a gender?

Elenna was 'after him' = telling Trei something over and over?
Advice of some kind?
A warning?

Is an action of Trei's relevant?
Or a non-action?
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Did Doris materialize?
was Doris delivered?
was Doris on TV?
is Doris any kind of humanoid?
was Doris' name given by Trei? Elenna?
Vesica (Vesica)
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Suido
Doris - animal? alive? No to both
organic? Yes
juvenile? No
doesn't have an age? Yesish
male? No
doesn't have a gender? Yesish

Elenna was 'after him' = telling Trei something over and over? Yes
Advice of some kind? Yes
A warning? Yes, this too

Is an action of Trei's relevant? Yes
Or a non-action? Yes, but rather misleading...focus on the action

Sixtyeight
Did Doris materialize? No
was Doris delivered? No
was Doris on TV? Definitely...but this might be misleading
is Doris any kind of humanoid? NO
was Doris' name given by Trei? Elenna? As in did they name Doris? No.
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Weather phenom...phmenomo...phemo...kind of thing (e. g. hurricane) relevant?
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Bodo
Oh, Bodo...you know me so well.

Weather phenom...phmenomo...phemo...kind of thing (e. g. hurricane) relevant? YES
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Was she nagging him for years about a particular behavior? Or not doing something? Watching too much TV? Spending too much time on the www? Ham radio? Not going out in the fresh air?
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Bodo
Was she nagging him for years about a particular behavior? Yes
Or not doing something? No
Watching too much TV? Spending too much time on the www? Ham radio? Not going out in the fresh air? None of these
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If he had listened would he now be dead? poorer? richer? homeless? injured?
Would elena now be dead? poorer? richer? homeless? injured?
Is Trei's relationship to Elena relevant? Do they live together? Was she his girlfriend? Mother? would be suitor?
Was Trei also glad he hadn't listened?
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I wonder why I didn't put spouse on that list... was she his spouse?
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So Doris is a hurricane? tropical storm?
Did Doris do any damge to E & T's surrounding area? their house? property?
is wind relevant? rain? tides? trees? windows? vehicles?
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I also wonder why I didn't notice that we'd already decided they were mother and son.. oh well
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Bentarm
If he had listened would he now be dead? poorer? richer? homeless? injured? Perhaps richer, but no to the rest
Would elena now be dead? poorer? richer? homeless? injured? None of the above

Is Trei's relationship to Elena relevant? Not terribly. We went with Mother and Son.

Was Trei also glad he hadn't listened? I'd say Yope

I wonder why I didn't put spouse on that list... was she his spouse? No, as you noticed

Sixtyeight
So Doris is a hurricane? YES

tropical storm? No.

Did Doris do any damge to E & T's surrounding area? their house? property? All of the above

is wind relevant? rain? tides? trees? windows? vehicles? Wind and trees most relevant, though the others were probably being affected too

Bentarm
I also wonder why I didn't notice that we'd already decided they were mother and son.. oh well
We are all allowed off moments. *pat pat* I still think you're brilliant.
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Is insurance relevant?
Is moving house relevant?
Do the mother and son live together? relevant?
So Trei did something and his mother kept nagging him not to do it?
Did he do it on the night that Doris arrived?
Did any relevant trees fall over? Was trei in a tree that fell over?
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Bentarm
Is insurance relevant? Nope
Is moving house relevant? No
Do the mother and son live together? relevant? Let's say yes and yes
So Trei did something and his mother kept nagging him not to do it? Yes
Did he do it on the night that Doris arrived? Yes
Did any relevant trees fall over? Was trei in a tree that fell over? No to both
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Is the part of the house in which Trei habitually did the naggable thing relevant?
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regarding the action that Elena nagged Trei about..
did it keep them away from danger?
did it lead them out of the house?
did it help reduce any negative impacts of the hurricane?
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Bodo
Is the part of the house in which Trei habitually did the naggable thing relevant? No

Sixtyeight
regarding the action that Elena nagged Trei about..
did it keep them away from danger?
did it lead them out of the house? No to both
did it help reduce any negative impacts of the hurricane? Yes
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Did a tree fall on their house? on their power lines?
did they lose power?
did their house get flooded?
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Did a tree fall on their house? on their power lines? Perhaps
did they lose power? YES
did their house get flooded? No
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In losing power did the freezer shut down?
Did lots of things defrost?
Did the clocks reset themselves?
any of these things relevant?
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Bentarm

In losing power did the freezer shut down?
Did lots of things defrost?
Did the clocks reset themselves? Probably all of these things...
any of these things relevant? ...but none of them are relevant.
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did Trei often leave something electrical on?
did he leave the toilet seat up?
smoke cigarretes?
did his neglect help them communicate? eat? get water? illuminate in the dark? stay warm? stay cool? travel? avoid electrocution? stay dry?
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I'm likin' the smoking idea...
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Sorry I vanished - got struck down with some galloping crud and finally managed to do something other than work, collapse, sleep, repeat. Here we go...

Sixtyeight
did Trei often leave something electrical on?
did he leave the toilet seat up? No to both
smoke cigarretes? Cigarettes - and YES!!

did his neglect help them communicate? eat? get water?
illuminate in the dark? YES
stay warm? stay cool? travel? avoid electrocution? stay dry? No to the rest

Bodo
I'm likin' the smoking idea...
Yeah, it's a good call
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So because Trei couldn't quit smoking, he was sure to have matches or a lighter in his pocket. When they lost power she used that to light candles, oil lamps, etc...or....something more?
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So, E nagged about T's smoking only to find it helpful at the most unexpected but opportune moment?

Did illumination allow split second evasion of danger or impact? to pick their way around? locate some important object, tool or needed item?
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Sixtyeight

So because Trei couldn't quit smoking, he was sure to have matches or a lighter in his pocket. When they lost power she used that to light candles, oil lamps, etc...or....something more? That's it!!

Petjan

So, E nagged about T's smoking only to find it helpful at the most unexpected but opportune moment? Indeed

Did illumination allow split second evasion of danger or impact? to pick their way around? locate some important object, tool or needed item? Nope - too complicated

****** SPOILER ******

Elena had been nagging her son Trei to stop smoking for years. He knew she was right; it would kill him someday.

But the night Hurricane Doris blew through and the power went out, Elena was almost glad he had never listened to her.

Say what you will about smokers and what a dirty habit it is, but a smoker will always know where the nearest lighter or matches are. Usually, they are in their pocket!

Trei fished out his lighter and soon he and his mother had plenty of candles lit.


Thanks everyone for playing!!

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