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Deathateaster (Deathateaster)
New member Username: Deathateaster
Post Number: 63 Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2007 - 8:10 pm: |      |
The title is only to do with the other magic trick puzzle... Being excited ruined my trick. |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight
Post Number: 625 Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, September 27, 2007 - 8:32 pm: |      |
a magic trick? or you were fooling someone? were you not calm? were your hands unsteady? |
Tanvishashikant (Tanvishashikant)
New member Username: Tanvishashikant
Post Number: 70 Registered: 9-2007
| | Posted on Friday, September 28, 2007 - 3:25 pm: |      |
Because you were excited, you performed the trick too quickly? Or you gave something away before the trick? Or did the excitement make you forget something important? |
Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm
Post Number: 1217 Registered: 6-2001
| | Posted on Friday, September 28, 2007 - 3:49 pm: |      |
were you excited? |
Deathateaster (Deathateaster)
New member Username: Deathateaster
Post Number: 64 Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Friday, September 28, 2007 - 4:12 pm: |      |
a magic trick? Yes or you were fooling someone? No were you not calm? I was calm were your hands unsteady?No. Because you were excited, you performed the trick too quickly? Or you gave something away before the trick? Or did the excitement make you forget something important?No to all. were you excited? No |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight
Post Number: 635 Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Friday, September 28, 2007 - 5:16 pm: |      |
were you excited at the time you performed the trick? |
Tanvishashikant (Tanvishashikant)
New member Username: Tanvishashikant
Post Number: 80 Registered: 9-2007
| | Posted on Friday, September 28, 2007 - 5:34 pm: |      |
Did your trick get ruined because your audience was excited? Did someone from the audience do something to ruin your trick? Is it relevant where you were? And how many people were watching? |
Deathateaster (Deathateaster)
New member Username: Deathateaster
Post Number: 66 Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Friday, September 28, 2007 - 8:35 pm: |      |
were you excited at the time you performed the trick? No Did your trick get ruined because your audience was excited? No Did someone from the audience do something to ruin your trick? Yesish/Yes Is it relevant where you were? No. And how many people were watching? No. |
Tanvishashikant (Tanvishashikant)
New member Username: Tanvishashikant
Post Number: 84 Registered: 9-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 12:18 pm: |      |
The person from the audience who ruined your trick = A Is A human? adult? male? Was A the one who was excited? Did A know the trick before-hand? Did A tell people the secret of the trick? Did A point? jump? Or do something with his body? Or did he say something that ruined your trick? Your trick got ruined purely because of someone being excited, or as a consequence of that? |
Deathateaster (Deathateaster)
New member Username: Deathateaster
Post Number: 68 Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 4:45 pm: |      |
The person from the audience who ruined your trick = A Is A human? adult? male? Irrel Was A the one who was excited? YES Did A know the trick before-hand? No. Did A tell people the secret of the trick? No. Did A point? jump? Or do something with his body? Yes, but beware of this one! Or did he say something that ruined your trick? No to else. Your trick got ruined purely because of someone being excited, or as a consequence of that? |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight
Post Number: 644 Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 11:00 pm: |      |
was a the person from the audience selected to help you with the trick? were you sawing A in half? in the trick should something magically disappear? magically appear? magically change ? magically move? is it a card trick? coin trick? do you use a handkerchief? wand? hat? smoke? animal? are there any significant properties of A? can he be considered a normal? healthy? did something about the trick excite A? did something else in the room excite A? |
Deathateaster (Deathateaster)
New member Username: Deathateaster
Post Number: 73 Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 11:32 am: |      |
was a the person from the audience selected to help you with the trick? Yes were you sawing A in half? No. in the trick should something magically disappear? magically appear? magically change ? magically move? None is it a card trick? coin trick? do you use a handkerchief? wand? hat? smoke? animal? None. are there any significant properties of A? Yes, but only when he ruined my trick. can he be considered a normal? healthy? Yes. did something about the trick excite A? No did something else in the room excite A? Yes. |
Tanvishashikant (Tanvishashikant)
New member Username: Tanvishashikant
Post Number: 90 Registered: 9-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 1:45 pm: |      |
So when A was helping you out with your trick, something in the room excited him, and his excitement ruined your trick. Right upto here? The thing that got A excited, is it a person? Many people? An animal? An object? A gas? Or some chemical? When A got excited, did he move? And did this movement spoil your trick? Or did he forget something he had to do? Did he make a sound? And you forgot this one last time :Your trick got ruined purely because of A being excited, or as a consequence of that? |
Deathateaster (Deathateaster)
New member Username: Deathateaster
Post Number: 75 Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 2:03 pm: |      |
So when A was helping you out with your trick, something in the room excited him, and his excitement ruined your trick. Right upto here? Yes, but somethingS The thing that got A excited, is it a person? Many people? This one An animal? An object? A gas? Or some chemical? When A got excited, did he move? And did this movement spoil your trick? Or did he forget something he had to do? Did he make a sound? None of these And you forgot this one last time :Your trick got ruined purely because of A being excited, or as a consequence of that? As a consequence, I suppose. I myself don't see any difference. |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight
Post Number: 656 Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 3:40 pm: |      |
was A supposed to hold something? say something? wear a blindfold? did his excitement cause a lack of action? did he not do something? did he freeze? did his excitement reveal how you did your trick? did it prevent you from completing your trick? was the crowd heckling? did anyone say anything relevant? |
Deathateaster (Deathateaster)
New member Username: Deathateaster
Post Number: 76 Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 4:19 pm: |      |
was A supposed to hold something? say something? wear a blindfold? Hold something did his excitement cause a lack of action? did he not do something? did he freeze? None did his excitement reveal how you did your trick? did it prevent you from completing your trick? was the crowd heckling? did anyone say anything relevant? None |
Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg
Post Number: 264 Registered: 9-2007
| | Posted on Monday, October 01, 2007 - 5:25 am: |      |
Was there a relevant 'symptom' of being excited that caused the blooper? If so, any of these?: Sweaty hands Jittery fingers / Unsteady grip Stuttering / Stammering Increased / Decreased body temperature If someone more calm had volunteered instead, would the trick have worked? Did you need the volunteer to look scared or serious instead of excited? |
Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg
Post Number: 265 Registered: 9-2007
| | Posted on Monday, October 01, 2007 - 5:26 am: |      |
In retrospect, what I described was more nervousness than excitement... but I'll wait for your answers. |
Deathateaster (Deathateaster)
New member Username: Deathateaster
Post Number: 77 Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Monday, October 01, 2007 - 4:41 pm: |      |
Was there a relevant 'symptom' of being excited that caused the blooper? You're on the right track. If so, any of these?: Sweaty hands Jittery fingers / Unsteady grip Stuttering / Stammering Increased / Decreased body temperature Close. Not exactly, but close. If someone more calm had volunteered instead, would the trick have worked? Yes, most likely. Did you need the volunteer to look scared or serious instead of excited? NO. In retrospect, what I described was more nervousness than excitement... but I'll wait for your answers. One was close, but hey. |
Redgirl (Redgirl)
New member Username: Redgirl
Post Number: 9 Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 11:10 pm: |      |
Did A start blushing? Pee his pants? Got a heart attack? Was the fact that he was on stage making him so excited? Was the audience clapping? Is it relevant how big the audience is? Or where the performance is taking place? Is it important what A was supposed to hold? Did he drop that object? |
Deathateaster (Deathateaster)
New member Username: Deathateaster
Post Number: 81 Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 4:26 pm: |      |
Did A start blushing? Pee his pants? Got a heart attack? None of these. Was the fact that he was on stage making him so excited? YES. Was the audience clapping? Is it relevant how big the audience is? Or where the performance is taking place? No. However, a big audience would get him excited... Is it important what A was supposed to hold? No, but it IS relevant why... Did he drop that object? No. |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight
Post Number: 718 Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 3:29 pm: |      |
is the kind of trick relevant to the subject's nervous condition? would he have been as nervous for any participation type trick? |
Deathateaster (Deathateaster)
New member Username: Deathateaster
Post Number: 91 Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 6:15 pm: |      |
is the kind of trick relevant to the subject's nervous condition? It is a certin trick that this applies to, yes. would he have been as nervous for any participation type trick? EXCITEMENT, and yes. |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight
Post Number: 720 Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 9:27 pm: |      |
is there any significant difference between nervousness and excitement for this siutation? was there a specific physical attribute of the excited one that ruined the trick? sweat? hyperactivity? hypersensitivity? increased heart rate? increased breathing? dialated pupils? delerium? dry mouth? |
Deathateaster (Deathateaster)
New member Username: Deathateaster
Post Number: 99 Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 9:49 pm: |      |
is there any significant difference between nervousness and excitement for this siutation? There may have been a mix up here. A was excited, however, one of the attributes of nervousness was close to, and would do the same job as, excitedness. was there a specific physical attribute of the excited one that ruined the trick? Rephrase? sweat? hyperactivity? hypersensitivity? increased heart rate? THIS ONE. increased breathing? dialated pupils? delerium? dry mouth? |
Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg
Post Number: 321 Registered: 9-2007
| | Posted on Monday, October 08, 2007 - 9:37 am: |      |
I remember a science experiment where you could measure the pulse of a person by placing a thumbtack on a rubber band on their upturned wrist or something like that... Did the joke depend on the person's heart / pulse rate being normal? Or was the failure an indirect result of this individual's tachycardia? A morbid possibility is that the volunteer was not very healthy (old / heart patient) and had a heart attack while assisting you... :'( |
Deathateaster (Deathateaster)
New member Username: Deathateaster
Post Number: 107 Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Monday, October 08, 2007 - 4:28 pm: |      |
I remember a science experiment where you could measure the pulse of a person by placing a thumbtack on a rubber band on their upturned wrist or something like that... No. Nice try, but no. Did the joke Magic trick... depend on the person's heart / pulse rate being normal? Yes, but no. Or was the failure an indirect result of this individual's tachycardia? Rephrase. A morbid possibility is that the volunteer was not very healthy (old / heart patient) and had a heart attack while assisting you... :'( No. |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight
Post Number: 801 Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2007 - 4:34 pm: |      |
The magic trick was dependent on heart rate? pulse? blood pressure? are there any props in the trick that display heart rate? calculate heart rate? could any person have ruined the trick? or is there something about that one individual? |
Deathateaster (Deathateaster)
New member Username: Deathateaster
Post Number: 118 Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2007 - 11:42 am: |      |
The magic trick was dependent on heart rate? pulse? blood pressure? All of these, but not in the way you'd expect. are there any props in the trick that display heart rate? calculate heart rate? No. could any person have ruined the trick? or is there something about that one individual? As long as they were excited. |
Deathateaster (Deathateaster)
New member Username: Deathateaster
Post Number: 126 Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 6:38 pm: |      |
Would you like me to spoil? |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight
Post Number: 831 Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 1:54 am: |      |
I'd rather you post a recap and/or a hint.. is it a known magic trick from classic magician routines? is it relevant which trick? would knowing which trick reveal how it was ruined? did the cardiovascular symptoms lead to other relevant physical symptoms? |
Tanvishashikant (Tanvishashikant)
New member Username: Tanvishashikant
Post Number: 116 Registered: 9-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 3:19 pm: |      |
Is a lie-detector or any such similar instrument relevant? |
Deathateaster (Deathateaster)
New member Username: Deathateaster
Post Number: 129 Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 5:27 pm: |      |
I'd rather you post a recap and/or a hint.. Ok, look down the post. is it a known magic trick from classic magician routines? No. However, it's a well known trick, and many variations have been made. is it relevant which trick? Yes. would knowing which trick reveal how it was ruined? Yes, and you can figure out the trick due to why it was ruined. did the cardiovascular symptoms lead to other relevant physical symptoms? Rephrase a little, can't answer in it's current state. Is a lie-detector or any such similar instrument relevant? No. RECAP. 1. A member of the audience, a volunteer, ruined the trick because he was excited. 2. The audience made him excited. 3. One of the attributes given to excitedness ruined the trick, to be more precise raised blood pressure. 4. It is a particular trick that depends on the blood pressure being normal. HINT: IT IS A COIN TRICK, AND THE VOLUNTEER DID NOT KNOW HE WAS RUINING IT. |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 768 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 7:14 pm: |      |
Is the trick the one where you get a volunteer to hold a coin up to his head while your back is turned, then you can tell which hand it was in because the blood has drained out leaving it paler? But his raised blood pressure meant this dodn't work? |
Deathateaster (Deathateaster)
New member Username: Deathateaster
Post Number: 132 Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 8:58 pm: |      |
Is the trick the one where you get a volunteer to hold a coin up to his head while your back is turned, then you can tell which hand it was in because the blood has drained out leaving it paler? But his raised blood pressure meant this dIdn't work? <<<<****----spoiler----****>>>> Yup, he got it SPOT ON! Fantastic! |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 773 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 9:49 pm: |      |
I learnt that trick from a movie...never tried it, though I've been informed it really does work. Is this a real life event, or did you get the idea from the same place I did (I'd never heard of it before)? Great puzzle! |
~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~
Post Number: 1066 Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Friday, October 19, 2007 - 2:25 pm: |      |
just a little note to remind you to leave spaces around the word spoiler so that the search engine picks it up for admin |
Deathateaster (Deathateaster)
New member Username: Deathateaster
Post Number: 133 Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Friday, October 19, 2007 - 4:26 pm: |      |
Sorry. SPOILER By the way, It's in all of my 5 magic trick books, so I thought it was pretty common. |