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Tanvishashikant (Tanvishashikant)
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Posted on Friday, September 28, 2007 - 3:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

With one toss and bend, the blue and black didn't hurt as much.

Early spoilers, PLEASE email! Thanks :-)
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some sport involved?

blue and black= bruise?

human involved?

animals involved?

didn't hurt as much= physical pain eased?

the toss and bend caused the blue and black to not hurt as moch?
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is title of puzzle relevant?

toss and bend of
an object?
body part?
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Posted on Friday, September 28, 2007 - 4:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

some sport involved? No.

blue and black= bruise? Yes!

human involved? Yes.

animals involved? No.

didn't hurt as much= physical pain eased? Not really, no.

the toss and bend caused the blue and black to not hurt as much? Well, yes, according to the puzzle statement, but not in a literal way, if thats what you meant.

is title of puzzle relevant? Yeshish.

toss and bend of
an object? Toss of an "object", yes, but the bend is of a body part.
body part?
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did someone bend their arm in order to toss something?
did the object tossed hit someone? something?

was the bruise on the person tossing?
or the person hit?
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Posted on Friday, September 28, 2007 - 4:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did someone bend their arm in order to toss something? Yes, but this is not the bending I'm referring to.
did the object tossed hit someone? Something?Not "hit", exactly. Explore.

was the bruise on the person tossing? Yes.
or the person hit? So, no.
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did the object land somewhere in particular?
was it destroyed?
was it thrown to get rid of it ?
was it caught by someone?

was the body part bent..
head
neck
stomach
waist
legs
feet
because the object was tossed, did the person not mind the pain of the bruise as much?

is the cause of the bruise relevant?
the size?
the placement?
Tanvishashikant (Tanvishashikant)
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did the object land somewhere in particular? Yes.
was it destroyed? Not "destroyed" but all of it wasn't present later.
was it thrown to get rid of it ? No.
was it caught by someone?No.

was the body part bent..
head
neck
stomach
waist
legs This one.
feet
because the object was tossed, did the person not mind the pain of the bruise as much? Not as a direct result of tossing. The act of tossing in itself isn't relevant to the pain. Its the consequence that is relevant.

is the cause of the bruise relevant? Yes, very much.
the size? Noish.
the placement? No.
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had the object earlier caused the bruise?

did the tossing of the object cause part of the object to not be present later?

did the legs bend inorder to jump and throw the object? or did ty have a much more relevant action?

was the object a bomb?

did someone pick it up?


was possessing this object illegal?
Tanvishashikant (Tanvishashikant)
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had the object earlier caused the bruise? No.

did the tossing of the object cause part of the object to not be present later? The tossing wasn't responsible for this. What happened after that is.

did the legs bend in order to jump and throw the object? No jumping involved. The legs bent in order to do something after the "object" was tossed. or did ty have a much more relevant action? As explained above.

was the object a bomb? No.

did someone pick it up? No.


was possessing this object illegal? Not at all.

I'm having fun answering so much in one day :-). Thanks for your interest!
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did another person cause the bruise?

was the bruise an accident?

did he have to run once he threw the object?

did the place where it landed have to do with part of it not being there later?

did other people know about what he was doing?

would the public look down on him for doing this?

thanks, Ive been doing this for fun while finishing my school work, but pretty soon I've got to go.
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Swimming involved? Diving?
Deep water?

When the thing was tossed, did it land on him?
Hit foot?
Was the pain of the bruise perceived to be less (even though it was not less) due to another pain? injury?
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was it horseshoes by any chance? I was hit in the knee once when someone was tossing horseshoes, and did that hurt!

were sports involved? soccer? football, american? tennis? baseball? cricket?
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did another person cause the bruise? Yes.

was the bruise an accident? No.

did he have to run once he threw the object? Yes, its not a "he" though, lol.

did the place where it landed have to do with part of it not being there later? Not really.

did other people know about what he was doing? No, not at first.

would the public look down on him for doing this? Yes.
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Swimming involved? Diving?
Deep water? None of these.

When the thing was tossed, did it land on him?
Hit foot? The thing that was tossed didn't land on the tosser at all.
Was the pain of the bruise perceived to be less (even though it was not less) This is true. due to another pain? injury? But no to these.
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don't forget my questions from sept 28th...
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would the problem work if the tosser was a male?

was the person who caused the bruise angry at the tosser?

is the objects color relevant?

was it bigger than abreadbox?
smaller?

was it made of...
cloth?
metal?
wood?
plastic?
Tanvishashikant (Tanvishashikant)
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I thought I answered these... Ah well, my unreliable connection might've acted up again.

was it horseshoes by any chance? I was hit in the knee once when someone was tossing horseshoes, and did that hurt! Haha... No, no horseshoes involved :-)

were sports involved? soccer? football, american? tennis? baseball? cricket? No to all.
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would the problem work if the tosser was a male? Yeah, it would work, but in this particular puzzle, its important that the tosser is female.

was the person who caused the bruise angry at the tosser? Yes, but thats not the only reason why the person caused the bruises

is the objects color relevant? No.

was it bigger than abreadbox?
smaller?
Well, the "object" can't be compared with a breadbox easily... But the object can be bigger or smaller. Explore more on what the "object" is. One hint is that though its inanimate, it's misleading to consider it an object.
was it made of...
cloth?
metal?
wood?
plastic? None of these.
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was it...
an idea?
thought?

is there more than one bruise?

is the placement of the bruises relevant?
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Posting my guess in ROT13:

Lbh jrer qernzvat, naq gur gbff naq oraq jbxr lbh hc?
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was it...
an idea?
thought? None of these.
is there more than one bruise? Yes. It's enough to know that the bruises were pretty severe. Doesn't matter how many of them there are.

is the placement of the bruises relevant? No.
Tanvishashikant (Tanvishashikant)
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@Noobdogg

You were dreaming, and the toss and bend woke you up? Haha... Nice guess, but no.
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I can't believe I forgot to ask this, but is the tosser an adult?

the victim of abuse?

was it something that had played an important role in her life?

was the running the "bend"?

is this a true story?
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I can't believe I forgot to ask this, but is the tosser an adult? Finally!:-). Yes, the tosser is an adult.

the victim of abuse? YES!

was it something that had played an important role in her life? If by "it" you mean the object, it played an important role in her life only because she did what she did with it at that time. It isn't relevant why it had been used earlier.

was the running the "bend"? No.

is this a true story? Yes.
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was the abuse from her father?
mother?
someone else?

by tossing it, was she able to escape the abuse?

was the object some sort of legal document?
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was the abuse from her father?
mother?
someone else? This one.
by tossing it, was she able to escape the abuse? Yes.

was the object some sort of legal document? No.
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was she related to the abuser?

was it her boyfriend?
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was she related to the abuser? Yes.

was it her boyfriend? Close.
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was it a "lover"? Was it someone with whom she was having an affair? was it her husband?

did she toss divorce papers at him? summons to court?
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brother?
cousin?
male?

did she escape the abuse because...
the abuser died?
she was able to hide from the abuser?
the abuser couldn't come near her?
she was moving on in her life?
other?
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brother?
cousin?
male? This one.

did she escape the abuse because...
the abuser died? YES! This one.
she was able to hide from the abuser?
the abuser couldn't come near her?
she was moving on in her life?
other?
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was it a "lover"? Was it someone with whom she was having an affair? was it her husband? Yes, it was her husband.

did she toss divorce papers at him? summons to court? None of these.
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did the tossing of the object directly cause her husband to die?

was it some sort of poisonous gas?

a match?

did she bend her knees to crawl?
jump?

would she be prosecuted for what she did?

was she near her husband when she tossed it?
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did the tossing of the object directly cause her husband to die? No. Something had to be done after the tossing.

was it some sort of poisonous gas? No.

a match? A match wasn't tossed.

did she bend her knees to crawl?
jump?
None of these.

would she be prosecuted for what she did? Yes, she was.

was she near her husband when she tossed it? Yes.
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was it...
liquid?
gas?
solid?

were they inside? outside?


was the bend ...
kicking?
did the bend get her away from the scene?
did it somehow activate what she had tossed?

is the prosecution relevant to the story?

did she get...
the death sentence?
life?
murder..
1?
2?
3?
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longshot guess: did she toss him? into the road? an open grave?
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was it...
liquid? YES! Finally :-). Now I don't have to keep putting "object" in inverted commas, lol.
gas?
solid?

were they inside? This one. outside?


was the bend ...
kicking?
did the bend get her away from the scene?
did it somehow activate what she had tossed? Not activate, exactly. Explore.

is the prosecution relevant to the story? Yesish.
did she get...
the death sentence?
life? This one.
murder..
1? Yup, bang on. She was prosecuted for 1st degree murder, and given a life sentence.
2?
3?
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longshot guess: did she toss him? into the road? an open grave? Lol, no. It would have been really hilarious if she'd done that, though :-D
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was the liquid flammable?
did she step on something?
was he asleep?
was she in the same room as him?
is it relevant what room they were in?
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gasoline? kerosene? lighter fluid?
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was the liquid flammable? YES!
did she step on something? No.
was he asleep? YES!
was she in the same room as him? Yes.
is it relevant what room they were in? Yesish.
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gasoline? kerosene? EXACTLY! This one. lighter fluid?

Now the only thing left to find out is what she did when she bent!
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did the bend light the kerosene?
did it help her get away?
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did the bend light the kerosene? YES!
did it help her get away? Yes-ish.

That qualifies for a spoiler, which will be here soon. Great job Sparplug1 and Booklover!! I had fun on this one :-)
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Alrighty, it's now time for the
***************SPOILER!!!****************

The woman referred to in the puzzle is the victim of physical abuse from her husband. She had been on the receiving end for years now, and she finally decided to put an end to it by burning her husband alive. So, one night when her husband was sleeping, she tossed some kerosene over him, and bent to set the bedspread on fire, using a candle. Her husband died, and she was charged with murder. It was in jail that she found freedom from her vengeful mother-in-law and a chance to re-claim her life. (Thats why her "bruises" or the scars from her past life, didn't hurt as much.)

This is, actually, a true story which has been made into a movie called "Provoked", which released last year. For more info: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0458072/

Thanks again everyone!

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