| Author | Message | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 298 Registered: 9-2007 |
So the truth is, those may be backwards, but these must be forward. Possible Quickie... | ||
| Deathateaster (Deathateaster)
New member Username: Deathateaster Post Number: 94 Registered: 5-2007 |
Those different to these? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 302 Registered: 9-2007 |
Those different to these? Yope | ||
| Deathateaster (Deathateaster)
New member Username: Deathateaster Post Number: 102 Registered: 5-2007 |
Those related to these? Same type of thing as these? Are "these" or "Those" words? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 303 Registered: 9-2007 |
Those related to these? Sort of Same type of thing as these? Sort of Are "these" or "Those" words? Not words, explore | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1317 Registered: 6-2001 |
Can "those" also be forward? is there a fixed finite number of those? these? 2? 3? 4? 5? 10? 15? 20? 30? 100? 1000? 10000? 1000000? more? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 312 Registered: 9-2007 |
Can "those" also be forward? Yes is there a fixed finite number of those? No these? Yes 2? 3? 4? 5? 10? 15? 20? Between these two for 'these' 30? 100? 1000? 10000? 1000000? more? | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3414 Registered: 12-2000 |
Do they refer to something that moves? Something that is stationary but must appear in different directions? Signs? Is it something on the written page? Anything to do with copying something in reverse? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 332 Registered: 9-2007 |
Do they refer to something that moves? No Something that is stationary but must appear in different directions? No Signs? No Is it something on the written page? Rephrase pls Anything to do with copying something in reverse? No-ish There's an FA lurking in the first 2 questions | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3415 Registered: 12-2000 |
Is the FA that it appears that I was treating 'those' and 'these' as one and the same? They're kinda similar types of things though aren't they? Are they tangible objects? Is it something seen on a computer? | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3416 Registered: 12-2000 |
Alphabets and how things are read? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 334 Registered: 9-2007 |
Is the FA that it appears that I was treating 'those' and 'these' as one and the same? Yes, and something else They're kinda similar types of things though aren't they? They are similar types of things Are they tangible objects? No, this was the other part of the FA, good job ruling it out Is it something seen on a computer? Yup Alphabets YES! Good job... 'these' are the letters of the alphabet and how things are read? This part I need you to rephrase So now all that's left to find out is what 'those' yopishly similar to alphabets things are (should be a piece of cake) and why they can be backwards but alphabets can only be forward in this particular puzzle! | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3417 Registered: 12-2000 |
Does it depend on which language they are used for? So a lot of Arab alphabets are read from right to left. Chinese is read from bottom to top and our alphabet is read from left to right (presumably 'forwards' to our way of thinking) I'm thinking that the Russian alphabet is read in the same way as ours. | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 664 Registered: 8-2001 |
These are the letters within the alphabet that are virtically symetrical like A H I M O T U V W X Y?? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 335 Registered: 9-2007 |
Does it depend on which language they are used for? No So a lot of Arab alphabets are read from right to left. Chinese is read from bottom to top and our alphabet is read from left to right (presumably 'forwards' to our way of thinking) I'm thinking that the Russian alphabet is read in the same way as ours. Nice try, but not this These are the letters within the alphabet that are virtically symetrical like A H I M O T U V W X Y?? No You seem to have forgotten abt 'those' :-D | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 337 Registered: 9-2007 |
Bit of a BLOOPER, when I said they are things seen on a computer, I mean that you CAN see them on computer. (Like alphabets, you're looking at them right now) But computers are irrelevant to the puzzle. | ||
| Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
New member Username: Tsoram1970 Post Number: 828 Registered: 6-2001 |
Would Leonardo Da Vinci agree with you? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 340 Registered: 9-2007 |
Would Leonardo Da Vinci agree with you? An interesting thought. I suppose if I narrated the facts to him, he would simply say, "I see..." | ||
| Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
New member Username: Tsoram1970 Post Number: 840 Registered: 6-2001 |
Or would he say but I put these backwards anyway and it works for me... | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1367 Registered: 6-2001 |
Do "those" actually look any different if they're backwards? Are they symbols of some sort? numbers? tally charts? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 341 Registered: 9-2007 |
Or would he say but I put these backwards anyway and it works for me... I think he'd have more important things to do really :-D Do "those" actually look any different if they're backwards? Not really, other than the fact that they are backwards Are they symbols of some sort? numbers? This one, digits tally charts? 'These' are alphabets, and 'those' are numbers. Now where can numbers be backwards, but alphabets can't? | ||
| Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
New member Username: Tsoram1970 Post Number: 844 Registered: 6-2001 |
Darn... that's my idea out the window... I was thinking of something like hebrew written right to left instead of the latin alphabet written left to right... Hence Leonardo who wrote mirror writing ... So do we have some kind of countdown? negative numbers? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 343 Registered: 9-2007 |
Darn... that's my idea out the window... I was thinking of something like hebrew written right to left instead of the latin alphabet written left to right... Hence Leonardo who wrote mirror writing ...Nice try, but this is much less intense :-D So do we have some kind of countdown? Yes negative numbers? No | ||
| Tanvishashikant (Tanvishashikant)
New member Username: Tanvishashikant Post Number: 112 Registered: 9-2007 |
In ROT13:- Uzzz... Fb qb lbh zrna fbzrguvat yvxr jura gurer'f n pbhagqbja, ahzoref pna or onpxjneqf, ohg jura gurer ner nycunorgf vaibyirq, vg nyjnlf fgnegf jvgu "n"? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 348 Registered: 9-2007 |
Hmmm... So do you mean something like when there's a countdown, numbers can be backwards, but when there are alphabets involved, it always starts with "a"? No | ||
| Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
New member Username: Tsoram1970 Post Number: 849 Registered: 6-2001 |
Does forward mean left to right? up ? Down? or simply in the correct direction? Would this work for any alphabet? Nothing to do with sign language? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 350 Registered: 9-2007 |
Does forward mean left to right? up ? Down? FA to all or simply in the correct direction? Correct is debatable. I prefer Usual Would this work for any alphabet? FA, I'll even let it out, it only works for all the alphabets. Nothing to do with sign language? No | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 355 Registered: 9-2007 |
In retrospect, Tanvi was OTRT with her ROT13'd question... | ||
| Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
New member Username: Tsoram1970 Post Number: 852 Registered: 6-2001 |
Love to know the definition of all the alphabets! So we are talking about a collection of alphabets? that have ever existed? even those that have been lost? including those that have yet to be invented? What about the phonetic alphabet? or the BSL manual alphabet? braille? morse code alphabet? semaphore alphabet? or are we just talking about written ones? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 359 Registered: 9-2007 |
Love to know the definition of all the alphabets! So we are talking about a collection of alphabets? that have ever existed? even those that have been lost? including those that have yet to be invented? What about the phonetic alphabet? or the BSL manual alphabet? braille? morse code alphabet? semaphore alphabet? or are we just talking about written ones? A to Z all together, the entire english alphabet, as simple as that :-) | ||
| Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
New member Username: Tsoram1970 Post Number: 859 Registered: 6-2001 |
Would it work for other alphabets? forward is a then b then c etc? until we reach z? or can it break before that? Are the numbers in the traditional number symbols? or written as words? are we talking simply the digits from 1 to 9? 0? is 0 before (after)1 or after(before)9? Are we talking real numbers? rational? integers? cardinal? ordinal? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 364 Registered: 9-2007 |
Would it work for other alphabets? forward is a then b then c etc? until we reach z? or can it break before that? I'll lay it down, coz its tougher to answer the questions. In this situation that the puzzle refers to, numbers may be counted up or down, but alphabets are only allowed to be like this: a, b, c, d, e, ...,y,z. Not the other way around. What is the situation? Are the numbers in the traditional number symbols? or written as words? are we talking simply the digits from 1 to 9? 0? is 0 before (after)1 or after(before)9? Are we talking real numbers? rational? integers? cardinal? ordinal? Just numbers 1 to w/e in sequence or back | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 374 Registered: 9-2007 |
Feeling grossly neglected within the lateral flood, so gonna post a .... HINT: The situation involves a person speaking "these" and "those" out loud. Now come on, what's the situation? | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 805 Registered: 4-2007 |
Is it to do with people using letters and numbers as lists? Eg a)..., b)..., c)... whereas you can say either 1, 2, 3 or 3, 2, 1? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 378 Registered: 9-2007 |
Is it to do with people using letters and numbers as lists? Eg a)..., b)..., c)... whereas you can say either 1, 2, 3 or 3, 2, 1? No, this isn't something a person habitually does. I'm speaking of a particular situation where this is how it is done. What situation would a person only say a,b,c,...,z but not z,y,x,...,a and 1,2,3,... and also 100,99,98 (any of these 3 may be required)? Another hint, this is something the person is MADE to do | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 807 Registered: 4-2007 |
When first learning the alphabet/numbers? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 379 Registered: 9-2007 |
When first learning the alphabet/numbers? No, nice try. It's raining hints: The concerned individuals would likely (hopefully) be a adults. | ||
| Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
New member Username: Tsoram1970 Post Number: 868 Registered: 6-2001 |
I've thought of a situation however I would have thought that the alphabet backwards would also be suitable.. however just in case and to clear my mind... is this one of those drunk driver tests? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 380 Registered: 9-2007 |
I've thought of a situation however I would have thought that the alphabet backwards would also be suitable.. however just in case and to clear my mind... is this one of those drunk driver tests? Brilliant as usual Tom! But you will find you are the victim of a common myth :-D ************ SPOILER *************** Field sobriety tests: Note the subtle initialization of the puzzle title ;-) A common myth is that the alphabet must be recited backwards, however, this is never done during an FST, as many sober people are unable to do this. Try it, it isn't as easy as it may seem, takes quite a bit of concentration! | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1642 Registered: 8-2006 |
My sister and I used to compete reciting the alphabit backwards. Not so hard for me anymore :-) | ||
| Tanvishashikant (Tanvishashikant)
New member Username: Tanvishashikant Post Number: 128 Registered: 9-2007 |
Haha... Nice one! We were made to say the alphabet backwards in school a LOT... Can't do it anymore now though, strangely. | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 1801 Registered: 6-2006 |
I can actually recite the alphabet backwards, to the ABC song tune, in 2 seconds flat. |
