| Author | Message | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 681 Registered: 8-2001 |
These only appear when things start to get exciting, but do they really exist at all? I used to think so. But now I'm not so sure | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 835 Registered: 1-2007 |
Appear in reality? in your mind? are they physical? are they a legend? | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 797 Registered: 6-2007 |
exclamation point! ? are they text? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 685 Registered: 8-2001 |
Peter365: Appear in reality? yes in your mind? no are they physical? yes are they a legend? no Sixtyeight: exclamation point! ? no are they text? no | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 808 Registered: 6-2007 |
can you buy one? some? is it normal to do so? is their appearance a natural phenomenon? man made? | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 684 Registered: 11-2003 |
Location relevant? Are they tangible? Can everyone see them? And would everyone see the same? Are they natural? man made? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 687 Registered: 8-2001 |
Sixtyeight: can you buy one? some? Probably, but very misleading. Let's say no is it normal to do so? see above is their appearance a natural phenomenon? no man made? yesish | ||
| Visconti (Visconti)
New member Username: Visconti Post Number: 97 Registered: 2-2005 |
does this have to do with something a human body creates? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 715 Registered: 8-2001 |
Visconti: does this have to do with something a human body creates?no | ||
| Visconti (Visconti)
New member Username: Visconti Post Number: 100 Registered: 2-2005 |
is the reason you're doubting the existence because: you saw something you didnt expect to see? you didnt see something you expected to see? you learned something knew? someone told you something you didnt know before? you learned it over time (since you're older/wiser now)? does this have anything to do with the weather? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 719 Registered: 8-2001 |
Visconti: is the reason you're doubting the existence because: you saw something you didnt expect to see? no you didnt see something you expected to see? no you learned something knew? no someone told you something you didnt know before? no you learned it over time (since you're older/wiser now)? ouch...probably this is closest. More like I just realized it does this have anything to do with the weather? yope | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 890 Registered: 6-2007 |
are they tangible? do they always come in groups? or can one of them exist? can one appear? wen you say "appear" do these change state when things get exciting? are they created when things get exciting? are they pulled out of some kind of archive when things get exciting? is any job relevant? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 736 Registered: 8-2001 |
Sixtyeight: are they tangible? yes do they always come in groups? Mostly or can one of them exist? yes can one appear? yes wen you say "appear" do these change state when things get exciting? yesish...FA lurking are they created when things get exciting? yes are they pulled out of some kind of archive when things get exciting? no is any job relevant? no | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1546 Registered: 6-2001 |
have you ever seen one? on TV? in the news? in a science fiction programme? Is "appear" in the puzzle statement essentially synonymous with "come into existence"? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 738 Registered: 8-2001 |
Bentarm: have you ever seen one? yes on TV? yes in the news? yes in a science fiction programme? don't think so Is "appear" in the puzzle statement essentially synonymous with "come into existence"? HINT: no...more like make their presence known | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 912 Registered: 6-2007 |
would you also read about them in the paper? is sports relevant? national news? world news? when you see them on the news, do you see them.. in the newssroom? in the live feeds? in taped segments? during commercial breaks? during certain types of stories? during "breaking news"? | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1554 Registered: 6-2001 |
Are they alive? people? "experts" on obscure subjects? - they always manage to find one when the obscure subject is in the news, but what do they do the rest of the time? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 741 Registered: 8-2001 |
Sixtyeight: would you also read about them in the paper? possible is sports relevant? yes national news? unlikely world news? less likely when you see them on the news, do you see them.. in the newssroom? in the live feeds? in taped segments? during commercial breaks? during certain types of stories? during "breaking news"? all these are possible Bentarm: Are they alive? yes people? yes "experts" on obscure subjects? could be, but not required - they always manage to find one when the obscure subject is in the news, but what do they do the rest of the time? yes....-er no...perhaps if you rephrase the question | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 752 Registered: 8-2001 |
HINT: These people do not actually participate in any sport (at least they are not supposed to). But sports are very relevant. | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 995 Registered: 6-2007 |
are they H? A? M? F? are they fans? players? ex-players? broadcasters? vendors? collectors? family/relation of any of above? are they categorized by something they wear? the way they look? something they say? a place that they go? is a specific sport relevant? do they appear when a game gets exciting? or when media hype peaks? another instance of excitement? Is the moment of excitement greater than a second? minute? hour? day? week? month? year? the length of time of a match? the length of time of a league playoff? would you think they exist because you see them? read about them? hear about them? or simply because they have a name? would one of them appear of his own will? or the will another party? or both? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 757 Registered: 8-2001 |
Sixtyeight: are they H? A? M? F? all of these are they fans? yope...explore...some would say they are players? ex-players? broadcasters? vendors? collectors? family/relation of any of above? can be any of these are they categorized by something they wear? the way they look? something they say? could be this, but not necessary a place that they go? this is one that is most common is a specific sport relevant? lets say spectator sports do they appear when a game gets exciting? noish or when media hype peaks? yes another instance of excitement? can be Is the moment of excitement greater than a second? minute? hour? day? week? month? year? around these last two usually the length of time of a match? the length of time of a league playoff? this last one can be true would you think they exist because you see them? yes read about them? that too hear about them? yes or simply because they have a name? no would one of them appear of his own will? yes or the will another party? yes or both? all are possible | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 997 Registered: 6-2007 |
to be one of "these".. does one need to be at a sporting event? could one of these humans be watching a sporting event on tv? must one buy a ticket to an event? must one show enthusiasm for a team or player? must one interfere with game play? would you confirm their existence by.. talking to them? reading their minds? revealing personal information about them ?seeing them? or some kind of visual confirmation? is it relevant how you became "not so sure"? was a single revelation relevant? or more of a slow learning? Or perhaps just challenging classic perceptions? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 763 Registered: 8-2001 |
Sixtyeight: to be one of "these".. does one need to be at a sporting event? no could one of these humans be watching a sporting event on tv? yes must one buy a ticket to an event? no must one show enthusiasm for a team or player? yes must one interfere with game play? no would you confirm their existence by.. talking to them? yes reading their minds? yes revealing personal information about them ? probably not seeing them? probably not just that or some kind of visual confirmation? knowing them would help is it relevant how you became "not so sure"? HINT: By being literal was a single revelation relevant? see above or more of a slow learning? Or perhaps just challenging classic perceptions? certainly true | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 999 Registered: 6-2007 |
would they all call themselves fans? are they fans that switch teams? switch sports? so there is a word for them that when taken literally makes you doubt they exist? does someone find them? one of them? groups of them? do broadcasters find them? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 765 Registered: 8-2001 |
Sixtyeight: would they all call themselves fans? yes are they fans that switch teams? could be, but not required switch sports? also could be, but not necessary so there is a word for them that when taken literally makes you doubt they exist? yes, exactly does someone find them? no one of them? no groups of them? no do broadcasters find them? no FA lurking...they are not sought by anyone | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 1003 Registered: 6-2007 |
would you call them fans? would the media call them fans? is another word for fans relevant? is a subcategory of fans relevant? Does there need to be a game in play for them to exist? Would these people call themselves this relevant word? If you assigned a new name to them would this change your feeling about their existence? so, location can be used to categorize them? is there something in common about where they are when they watch a game? are they all TV viewers? can a relevant location be named for the period of excitement? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 783 Registered: 8-2001 |
Sixtyeight: would you call them fans? yope would the media call them fans? probably is another word for fans relevant? yesish...not another word exactly is a subcategory of fans relevant? you might say that, yes Does there need to be a game in play for them to exist? no Would these people call themselves this relevant word? if they are honest, yes If you assigned a new name to them would this change your feeling about their existence? yes so, location can be used to categorize them? in the sense that it might dictate which team the prefer is there something in common about where they are when they watch a game? no are they all TV viewers? no can a relevant location be named for the period of excitement? no | ||
| Shira (Shira)
New member Username: Shira Post Number: 8 Registered: 11-2007 |
Does it have to do with making bets? Collecting autographs? Photos? Stalking? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 785 Registered: 8-2001 |
Shira: Does it have to do with making bets? Collecting autographs? Photos? Stalking? no to all, sorry | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 1909 Registered: 6-2006 |
ok, so they are yopish fans, and it yopishly has to to with the weather...fair-weather fans? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 789 Registered: 8-2001 |
Beccaan: ok, so they are yopish fans, and it yopishly has to to with the weather...fair-weather fans? Exactly! Spoyler to follow | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 790 Registered: 8-2001 |
*********** SPOILER ************ It just occurred to me one day that the term "fair weather fan" is an oxymoron. A fan is defined as an enthusiastic devotee, follower, or admirer of a sport, pastime, celebrity, etc.: a baseball fan; short for fanatic. A fanatic is a person with an extreme and uncritical enthusiasm or zeal, as in religion or politics. How can one have extreme and uncritical enthusiam or zeal only once in a while? So a "fair weather fan" cannot be a fan at all, but more like a sympathizer or advocate. Not that I expect the world to change based on what I think. The English language is full of things like this. Thanks everyone. I enjoyed this one. |
