| Author | Message | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 852 Registered: 4-2007 |
If only John had not been sick the week before, he would have not been in jail today. | ||
| Visconti (Visconti)
New member Username: Visconti Post Number: 148 Registered: 2-2005 |
John=h?a?m? John = "he" that is in jail? how much time is John likely to serve: 1 day? 1 week? 6 months? 1 year? 10 years? more than 10 years? true story? "the week before" = before something specific? did a memo arrive when he was out sick? relevant what he was sick with? lots of negatives in the sentence, to clarify: John was out sick, a memo arrived, he did not get said memo, and now he in jail? is there a murder involved? a conspiracy? is John a criminal? is John a murderer? is John's sickness relevant? is John's job white collar? blue collar? relevant? does not receiving the memo directly relate to him being in jail? | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 854 Registered: 4-2007 |
John=h?a?m? yes to all John = "he" that is in jail? yes how much time is John likely to serve: 1 day? 1 week? 6 months? 1 year? 10 years? more than 10 years? not sure, maybe between one and ten years... true story? no, just fmoi "the week before" = before something specific? no, he just missed work that week did a memo arrive when he was out sick?yes relevant what he was sick with? no lots of negatives in the sentence, to clarify: John was out sick, a memo arrived, he did not get said memo, and now he in jail? yes indeed, you are correct is there a murder involved?this a conspiracy? is John a criminal?no is John a murderer? he is is John's sickness relevant? no is John's job white collar? blue collar?I think more like this relevant? his job is relevant does not receiving the memo directly relate to him being in jail? yes | ||
| Visconti (Visconti)
New member Username: Visconti Post Number: 151 Registered: 2-2005 |
was the memo addressed to him? only him? did the memo have specific details that made John go kill? was it a generic memo that if I had received it I would just think "oh, another boring memo"? I'm sure someone better than me can spill out a list of weapons/type of murders, but would it be relevant to go down that path? did John murder: his boss? a coworker? a family member? a human? did John try to cover up the murder? was it done at night or something so as to try and not be caught? was he caught red handed? does John think he's justified in his murder? did John ever receive the memo? was the murder committed at work? is this an instance where the memo said something like "the cleaning crew will be here early tomorrow" and they arrived, and john mistook them for thieves and opened fire? | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 857 Registered: 4-2007 |
was the memo addressed to him?no only him? nodid the memo have specific details that made John go kill?no was it a generic memo that if I had received it I would just think "oh, another boring memo"?no I'm sure someone better than me can spill out a list of weapons/type of murders, but would it be relevant to go down that path? no, it was a gun did John murder: his boss? a coworker? a family member?none of these a human? yes did John try to cover up the murder?no was it done at night or something so as to try and not be caught?no was he caught red handed? yes does John think he's justified in his murder?yesish did John ever receive the memo? no was the murder committed at work? yes is this an instance where the memo said something like "the cleaning crew will be here early tomorrow" and they arrived, and john mistook them for thieves and opened fire?no to this | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 913 Registered: 6-2007 |
is any alibi relevant? did missing the memo spoyl an alibi? | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 861 Registered: 4-2007 |
is any alibi relevant? did missing the memo spoyl an alibi? no to both | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 922 Registered: 6-2007 |
If John had seen the memo would the murder have happened? If John had not been sick, would the murder have happened? so, John is not a criminal? is any crime involved? did John murder a customer? a stranger? was the murder commited while john was out sick? During John's work hours? | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 862 Registered: 4-2007 |
If John had seen the memo would the murder have happened? no If John had not been sick, would the murder have happened? no so, John is not a criminal? sorry, hope I didn't mislead but: before the murder, no is any crime involved? other than the murder, no did John murder a customer? a stranger? this was the murder commited while john was out sick? no During John's work hours? yes | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 930 Registered: 6-2007 |
was john attacked? was John defending himself? did John bring a gun to work? Does John usually carry a gun? Does someone else at work carry a gun? Is John in law enforcement? security? Did john mistake the stranger for someone else? did he speak to the stranger before shooting? | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 864 Registered: 4-2007 |
was john attacked?yesish or yope was John defending himself? yes did John bring a gun to work?yes (he probably brought it with him, but doesn't usually carry it while he works) Does John usually carry a gun?yes Does someone else at work carry a gun? not sure, but irr. Is John in law enforcement? security? none of these Did john mistake the stranger for someone else?no did he speak to the stranger before shooting? no | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 967 Registered: 6-2007 |
any of these fields of work relevant? Artistic/musical/writer? Banking/financial/real estate? Clerical/Administrative? Computer related / Hardware ? Construction / Craftsman ? Education / Academic Research ? Entertainment / Media ? Executive / Management ? Hospitality / Travel ? Legal Services ? Manufacturing / Distributions ? Medical / Health Services ? Politics / Government / Military ? Security / Law Enforcemant? Sales / Marketing ? Technical / Science / Engineering ? Teaching / Child care? Transportation /Livery / Trucking ? Food Service ? Sports? Entertainment? Jailbird / Criminal? Religion? Other? | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 887 Registered: 4-2007 |
any of these fields of work relevant? Artistic/musical/writer? Banking/financial/real estate? Clerical/Administrative? Computer related / Hardware ? Construction / Craftsman ? Education / Academic Research ? Entertainment / Media ? Executive / Management ? Hospitality / Travel ? Legal Services ? Manufacturing / Distributions ? Medical / Health Services ? this, looking for specific job Politics / Government / Military ? Security / Law Enforcemant? Sales / Marketing ? Technical / Science / Engineering ? Teaching / Child care? Transportation /Livery / Trucking ? Food Service ? Sports? Entertainment? Jailbird / Criminal? Religion? Other? | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2277 Registered: 2-2001 |
Morgue attendant? Mortician? Pathologist? Nurse? Doctor? Pharmacist? If he'd received the memo he would have understood what was going on and reacted differently? Any sort of drill/test/audit going on? Prank? | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 888 Registered: 4-2007 |
Morgue attendant? Mortician? Pathologist? Nurse?this Doctor? Pharmacist? If he'd received the memo he would have understood what was going on and reacted differently?yes, exactly Any sort of drill/this, a drilltest/audit going on? Prank? | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2279 Registered: 2-2001 |
Relevant the type of patients with which he dealt? Does (well, did) he work at a regular hospital? Clinic? Retirement home? Mental hospital/sanitarium? Was the person he killed pretending to be a patient? An addict? Did the person have a weapon? | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 889 Registered: 4-2007 |
Relevant the type of patients with which he dealt?the patients themselves aren't important, but it is important which department in the hospital he used to work Does (well, did) he work at a regular hospital?yes Clinic? Retirement home? Mental hospital/sanitarium?no to these Was the person he killed pretending to be a patient?no An addict?no Did the person have a weapon?noish or yope | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2280 Registered: 2-2001 |
Was the victim another hospital employee? Was the victim helping to put on the drill? Did he work with patients? Physical therapy? Children? | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 890 Registered: 4-2007 |
Was the victim another hospital employee?no Was the victim helping to put on the drill?yes Did he work with patients? Physical therapy? Children?john worked with patients including children, but not in physical therapy | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2281 Registered: 2-2001 |
Was the victim employed by (some level of) the government? Was it an emergency drill? Fire drill? Was the victim an actor? John works in: Cardiac? Critical Care? Surgery? Imaging? Radiology? Emergency? HBO? ICU? Laboratory? Pediatric? Respiratory? Pharmacy? Trauma center? | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 891 Registered: 4-2007 |
Was the victim employed by (some level of) the government? possibly Was it an emergency drill? yesish or yope Fire drill?no Was the victim an actor? possibly John works in: Cardiac? Critical Care? Surgery? Imaging? Radiology? Emergency?this HBO? ICU? Laboratory? Pediatric? Respiratory? Pharmacy? Trauma center? | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2286 Registered: 2-2001 |
The victim was coming into the ER as a patient? As a relative/friend/companion of a patient? | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 897 Registered: 4-2007 |
The victim was coming into the ER as a patient? As a relative/friend/companion of a patient?sorry, but none of these | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2287 Registered: 2-2001 |
Was he (she?) got up as an ax-wielding maniac? Chainsaw-waving killer? Giant spider? Shark? Ninja? Pirate? Suicide bomber? You did say he felt threatened/acted in self-defense, right? | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 898 Registered: 4-2007 |
Was he (she?) got up as an ax-wielding maniac? Chainsaw-waving killer? Giant spider? Shark? Ninja? Pirate? Suicide bomber? You did say he felt threatened/acted in self-defense, right?john did feel threatened and acted in self defense, but the victim was none of the above (though that was an impressive list!) | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2297 Registered: 2-2001 |
Any of the villainous types what appeared in Blazing Saddles (Nazis, klansmen, banditos etc.)? And I left out T-rex or velociraptor...either of them? Guy in a hockey mask? Vampire? Zombie? Animated skellington? Barry Manilow? Penguins with machetes? Any relevant third parties involved? Oooh, forgot this one too: Disgruntled Postal Worker? | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 902 Registered: 4-2007 |
Any of the villainous types what appeared in Blazing Saddles (Nazis, klansmen, banditos etc.)? And I left out T-rex or velociraptor...either of them? Guy in a hockey mask? Vampire? Zombie? Animated skellington? Barry Manilow? Penguins with machetes?another colorful list! but alas, no Any relevant third parties involved? yes Oooh, forgot this one too: Disgruntled Postal Worker?good one! but no again | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1699 Registered: 8-2006 |
Gangster? Did the victim "threaten" him? | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 903 Registered: 4-2007 |
Gangster?no Did the victim "threaten" him?yesish, but beware of fa | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1700 Registered: 8-2006 |
OK, the victim said something? Was carrying something? Wearing a certain thing? | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 904 Registered: 4-2007 |
OK, the victim said something?yes Was carrying something?possibly Wearing a certain thing?no | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2304 Registered: 2-2001 |
The relevant third party - someone being threatened by the victim? And you're sure it wasn't a ninja-pirate-zombie-penguin, right? I mean, those are really scary...and kind of cute, all at the same time. | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 906 Registered: 4-2007 |
The relevant third party - someone being threatened by the victim? yesish And you're sure it wasn't a ninja-pirate-zombie-penguin, right? I mean, those are really scary...and kind of cute, all at the same time.oh wait...maybe it was! : ) just kidding! | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 908 Registered: 4-2007 |
hint in white below Check out my response to your "Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2007 - 6:56 pm" question regarding the victim and his relation to the drill... | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 909 Registered: 4-2007 |
ooops, maybe I should have posted my hint in gray! | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1702 Registered: 8-2006 |
Not is physical therapy? OH!!! Physcology relevant? Was the victim acting like he was a maniac ? | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 912 Registered: 4-2007 |
Not is physical therapy? OH!!! nope, john works as a nurse in the ER Physcology relevant?no Was the victim acting like he was a maniac ?possibly | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2309 Registered: 2-2001 |
The victim was trying to force John to do something specific by threatening someone else (well, pretending to, and all)? Was the third party also a non-horsepistol employee? Was the third party a single individual? Known to John? | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 913 Registered: 4-2007 |
The victim was trying to force John to do something specificno to this by threatening someone else (well, pretending to, and all)?but yes to this Was the third party also a non-horsepistol employee?yes, the 3rd party had no guns Was the third party a single individual?no Known to John?yes | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2313 Registered: 2-2001 |
Well, at least I know what I'm going to be for Halloween next year - I wonder how hard it is to find ninja-pirate-zombie-penguin costumes? Did the victim seem rational? Threatening others in the ER? Patients? Staff? All of the above? Specific articulated threats? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 1707 Registered: 8-2006 |
What, no rogue albatross that dressed like a penguin and 3 legs? Did the 3rd party talk to John? Did the 3rd person(Let's call him... Tim!) "warn" John of the person? Were the victim's actions relevant? | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 914 Registered: 4-2007 |
Well, at least I know what I'm going to be for Halloween next year - I wonder how hard it is to find ninja-pirate-zombie-penguin costumes? i think party city has a few... Did the victim seem rational?possibly Threatening others in the ER?yes, he was threatening others in the ER Patients?no Staff?this All of the above? no Specific articulated threats?yes What, no rogue albatross that dressed like a penguin and 3 legs? would be nice, but no... Did the 3rd party talk to John?no Did the 3rd person(Let's call him... Tim!) "warn" John of the person?how about third parties...we can assume Tim was part of them....no they did not warn john about the victim Were the victim's actions relevant?yes | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2320 Registered: 2-2001 |
Was the drill intended for the hospital staff? Did John come upon the victim threatening his cow-orkers? | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 917 Registered: 4-2007 |
Was the drill intended for the hospital staff?YES Did John come upon the victim threatening his cow-orkers?YES | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 983 Registered: 6-2007 |
Is someone really threatening cow workers with a horse pistol??? | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2321 Registered: 2-2001 |
That's cow-orkers, not cow-workers. Sheesh. (: | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2333 Registered: 2-2001 |
So not realizing it was a drill, John came upon someone threatening his cow-orkers and shot the guy, right? This was in the ER? Were they being threatened with imminent bodily harm or even death? Were they supposed to comply with some kind of instructions? Did he want something from them? | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 922 Registered: 4-2007 |
So not realizing it was a drill, John came upon someone threatening his cow-orkers and shot the guy, right?yes, exactly! This was in the ER?yes Were they being threatened with imminent bodily harm or even death? Were they supposed to comply with some kind of instructions? Did he want something from them?yes to these...you are sooooo close to the answer! | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2336 Registered: 2-2001 |
What he wanted - drugs? Gurneys? Wheelchairs? Splints? Defibrillators? Bedpans? To not have to fill out insurance forms? | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 925 Registered: 4-2007 |
What he wanted - drugs? Gurneys? Wheelchairs? Splints? Defibrillators? Bedpans? To not have to fill out insurance forms?none of these | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2338 Registered: 2-2001 |
Did he want access to something? To some place? To destroy something? To kidnap someone? Medical attention? | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 927 Registered: 4-2007 |
Did he want access to something? To some place? To destroy something? To kidnap someone? Medical attention?none of these | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2340 Registered: 2-2001 |
Money? Valuables? Tongue depressors? Cotton balls? Hypodermics? Sphygmomanometers? Thermometers? Germs? Viruses? Blood? | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 928 Registered: 4-2007 |
Money? Valuables? Tongue depressors? Cotton balls? Hypodermics? Sphygmomanometers? Thermometers? Germs? Viruses? Blood?none of these...you're on the wrong track with his motive... | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2341 Registered: 2-2001 |
He didn't want something physical? | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 929 Registered: 4-2007 |
He didn't want something physical?he really didn't want anything.... hint in graysame hint--Check out my response to your "Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2007 - 6:56 pm" question regarding the victim and his relation to the drill... | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2342 Registered: 2-2001 |
Ok, the victim was acting out a part in a drill, right? And John came upon him threatening his cow-orkers and shot him, right? John believed they were in physical danger and the "actor" was armed? He didn't know it was a drill because he was out sick the week before? And the only piece we don't have is how/with what the victim was threatening them? | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 930 Registered: 4-2007 |
Ok, the victim was acting out a part in a drill, right? And John came upon him threatening his cow-orkers and shot him, right? John believed they were in physical danger and the "actor" was armed? He didn't know it was a drill because he was out sick the week before? And the only piece we don't have is how/with what the victim was threatening them?you've basically got it all, so I'll make that a spoiler-- (I don't think I even had in mind with what the victim was threatening them). ************ SPOILER ***************** John was out the week before with something (let's say flu) and missed a memo which stated that the ER was going to partake in a "hostage crisis drill"--basically train them what to do in case somebody came in and threatened them (let's say with a gun or something). John thought it was a real crisis situation, pulled out his gun (he lives in some state which allows someone to carry a registered concealed weapon) and shot the man, thinking he would be hailed a hero. Instead, he was jailed for murder. Thanks to Bodo for sticking with the puzzle and spoiling--though his ninja-pirate-zombie-penguin would have been a sight to see! I came up with this idea after remembering that a friend of mine years ago had to participate in these hostage crisis situations as an ER nurse. I thought, hmmm, what would happen if she came in and thought it was the real thing instead of a drill. Thanks for playing! |
