| Author | Message | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 791 Registered: 8-2001 |
Uncle Bill was scattered just as he requested, but no ashes could be found. | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 907 Registered: 4-2007 |
Uncle Bill: human adult male? Is it relevant that he is an uncle? Were the ashes of his body scattered? Or any other ashes? If yes, did they disappear somehow? Did they blow away? Were cleaned up? | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1054 Registered: 6-2005 |
Teleporter technology relevant here? Scattering of molecules? Absent-minded professor sort of scattered? Are funeral arrangements even relevant? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 792 Registered: 8-2001 |
Enjay: Uncle Bill: human adult male? yes Is it relevant that he is an uncle? no Were the ashes of his body scattered? no, FA Or any other ashes? no If yes, did they disappear somehow? Did they blow away? Were cleaned up? see above Dlcygnet: Teleporter technology relevant here? no Scattering of molecules? yes, but not individually Absent-minded professor sort of scattered? no Are funeral arrangements even relevant? yes | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 908 Registered: 4-2007 |
Is Bill dead? Or at last, was he dead when he was scattered? Is the reason no ashes could be found simply because there were no ashes to start with? Was Bill divided in any way in order to be scattered? Scattered as in pieces distributed in various places, or whatever the usual definition of the word is? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 794 Registered: 8-2001 |
Enjay: Is Bill dead? yes Or at last, was he dead when he was scattered? that too Is the reason no ashes could be found simply because there were no ashes to start with? yes Was Bill divided in any way in order to be scattered? yes Scattered as in pieces distributed in various places, or whatever the usual definition of the word is? yes | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1055 Registered: 6-2005 |
Was he cut up? I.e. his body was cut into X number of large pieces and set to the far corners of the earth? Sliced and diced? Was his "scattered" state an accident? Intentional? Does this take place in... North America? Europe? South America? Asia? Middle East? Africa? Austrailia? Pacific islands? Atlantic Islands? Antarctica? On earth? Is this at all similar to the story of Isis and Osiris? (Osiris was cut up into pieces by his evil brother and each piece was burried in different places). | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 795 Registered: 8-2001 |
Dlcygnet: Was he cut up? no I.e. his body was cut into X number of large pieces and set to the far corners of the earth? Sliced and diced? no Was his "scattered" state an accident? no Intentional? yes Does this take place in... North America? Europe? South America? Asia? Middle East? Africa? Austrailia? Pacific islands? Atlantic Islands? Antarctica? could be any of these....US, but not relevant On earth? yes Is this at all similar to the story of Isis and Osiris? (Osiris was cut up into pieces by his evil brother and each piece was burried in different places). no, good idea though | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1059 Registered: 6-2005 |
Is the method of Bill's "scattering" the key to this puzzle? Is it an unusual way to have one's... remains... scattered? Was Bill frozen? And then shattered? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 796 Registered: 8-2001 |
Dlcygnet: Is the method of Bill's "scattering" the key to this puzzle? no Is it an unusual way to have one's... remains... scattered? no Was Bill frozen? yes And then shattered? yesish, explore | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1060 Registered: 6-2005 |
He melted? Evaporated? Wound up as part of the rain cycle? Did somebody take a saw to him? Crushed like an ice cube? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 797 Registered: 8-2001 |
Dlcygnet: He melted? Evaporated? Wound up as part of the rain cycle? Did somebody take a saw to him? Crushed like an ice cube? no to all, keep working on it...you'll get it | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 1151 Registered: 9-2003 |
did he thaw back out? is it one of those cryogenic type things? I think the general idea of those is hoping that one day in the future he can be cured? but if he asked to be scattered not sure how that works - did he ask to be? or did he have his head frozen so one day it could be attached to a monkey body or something? | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1061 Registered: 6-2005 |
Does this have anything to do with the vacuum of space? Getting scattered accross the universe? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 799 Registered: 8-2001 |
Damia: did he thaw back out? eventually is it one of those cryogenic type things? no I think the general idea of those is hoping that one day in the future he can be cured? it is, but not relevant here but if he asked to be scattered not sure how that works - did he ask to be? let's say yes or did he have his head frozen so one day it could be attached to a monkey body or something? no Dlcygnet: Does this have anything to do with the vacuum of space? Getting scattered accross the universe? no to both | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1081 Registered: 6-2005 |
Is the method of Bill's freezing relevant? Liquid Nitrogen? Stuck in a meat cooler? <insert>? Is Terminator relevant? (thinking of the bad guy in Terminator 2 who got super-cooled and shattered on the highway). Is it just his scattering that's relevant at this point? I.e. he was dropped from a high altitude and *ker-spling* ice shards everywhere? Was he put inside a box, then put inside another box, mailed to his greatest enemy, and when the package arrived, that person hit the box with a hammer??? Or did they decide to save on postage? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 800 Registered: 8-2001 |
Dlcygnet: Is the method of Bill's freezing relevant? Liquid Nitrogen? this one Stuck in a meat cooler? <insert>? final temp is -320 F or -195 C Is Terminator relevant? no (thinking of the bad guy in Terminator 2 who got super-cooled and shattered on the highway). Undestand why you would think that. Bill was a good guy Is it just his scattering that's relevant at this point? yes I.e. he was dropped from a high altitude and *ker-spling* ice shards everywhere? that would be rather messy...no not that way Was he put inside a box, probably then put inside another box, no mailed to his greatest enemy, his family would never do this and when the package arrived, that person hit the box with a hammer??? Or did they decide to save on postage? this is a more civilized process... | ||
| Lporter229 (Lporter229)
New member Username: Lporter229 Post Number: 31 Registered: 11-2007 |
Was his wish to a complete organ donor, thus his body parts were "scattered" to different recipients? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 804 Registered: 8-2001 |
Lporter229: Was his wish to a complete organ donor, thus his body parts were "scattered" to different recipients? no, but good thinking | ||
| Lporter229 (Lporter229)
New member Username: Lporter229 Post Number: 32 Registered: 11-2007 |
Was his body "in tact" when it was frozen? or was it frozen in pieces? Was there a funeral service? Was his frozen body present at his funeral service? Was he frozen into a solid block of ice and dropped to the bottom of the ocean to become "fish food"? | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1092 Registered: 6-2005 |
Is this a true story? Does it involve the head being frozen in a tub and the rest of the body being frozen elsewhere? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 805 Registered: 8-2001 |
Lporter229: Was his body "in tact" when it was frozen? yes or was it frozen in pieces? no Was there a funeral service? yes Was his frozen body present at his funeral service? yes, FA lurking Was he frozen into a solid block of ice yes and dropped to the bottom of the ocean to become "fish food"? no Dlcygnet: Is this a true story? inspired by similar stories that are going on all the time Does it involve the head being frozen in a tub and the rest of the body being frozen elsewhere? no | ||
| Lporter229 (Lporter229)
New member Username: Lporter229 Post Number: 34 Registered: 11-2007 |
Was he freeze dried and turned into a powder similar to ashes? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 809 Registered: 8-2001 |
Lporter: Was he freeze dried no and turned into a powder similar to ashes? yes He was frozen solid as one piece, then somehow, without dropping, crushing or pounding he was turned into a powder similar to ashes....put your thinking caps on! | ||
| Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
New member Username: Tsoram1970 Post Number: 953 Registered: 6-2001 |
Space burial? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 811 Registered: 8-2001 |
Tsoram1970: Space burial? No | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 1906 Registered: 1-2001 |
Longshot - Bill's frozen remains were somehow evaporated into the atmosphere and fell back to earth as snow (powder)? Was the change from a one-piece object to powder done by artificial/man-made means? Or natural means? Is geography relevant here? Bill's hobbies? Possibly instructions given by Bill to his family either while he was alive or stated in his last will? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 815 Registered: 8-2001 |
Ixoye: Longshot - Bill's frozen remains were somehow evaporated into the atmosphere and fell back to earth as snow (powder)? That would be cool....nice idea, not the case here Was the change from a one-piece object to powder done by artificial/man-made means? yes Or natural means? no Is geography relevant here? Bill's hobbies? no to both Possibly instructions given by Bill to his family either while he was alive or stated in his last will? could very well be | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 1907 Registered: 1-2001 |
Allright, another longshot then (and sort of a stomach-turning one) - was Bill turned into an ice sculpture? The carving (sick, I know) created powder and the rest of him melted away...? Is/was Bill's job relevant? Did the man-made process involve a machine? more than one? a tool? more than one? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 817 Registered: 8-2001 |
Ixoye: Allright, another longshot then (and sort of a stomach-turning one) - was Bill turned into an ice sculpture? The carving (sick, I know) created powder and the rest of him melted away...? no...that would be interesting too...I'm sure someone would say its art. Not this time Is/was Bill's job relevant? no Did the man-made process involve a machine? yes more than one? no a tool? more than one? not really a tool | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2348 Registered: 2-2001 |
Well, if he wasn't crushed, it wasn't a giant wooden badger what did for him... Trebuchet? Fired from a cannon? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 819 Registered: 8-2001 |
Bodo: Trebuchet? Fired from a cannon? nothing so grand I'm afraid, although there might just be a market for that | ||
| Lporter229 (Lporter229)
New member Username: Lporter229 Post Number: 35 Registered: 11-2007 |
Was a plane(as in the tool) involved? or a pick? Was the process an instananeous thing (like "poof")? or is it something that happened over time? seconds? minutes? hours? days? weeks? months? years? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 821 Registered: 8-2001 |
Lporter: Was a plane(as in the tool) involved? or a pick? no to both Was the process an instananeous thing (like "poof")? no or is it something that happened over time? yes seconds? minutes? minutes to hours hours? days? weeks? months? years? | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 1004 Registered: 6-2007 |
Was his entire body turned to powder? of equal granule size? was any part left whole? did he donate his body for some research? was it necessary to freeze his body in order to turn it into powder? was his body prepared in another way other than freezing? drying? a chemical added? was water removed from the body? | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2352 Registered: 2-2001 |
Er, wood chippers relevant? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 822 Registered: 8-2001 |
Sixtyeight: Was his entire body turned to powder? yes of equal granule size? yes was any part left whole? no did he donate his body for some research? no was it necessary to freeze his body in order to turn it into powder? yes was his body prepared in another way other than freezing? drying? a chemical added? was water removed from the body? no to all Bobo: Er, wood chippers relevant?ewww....no | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 823 Registered: 8-2001 |
Weak hint: The intent of this process was to be more environmentally friendly | ||
| Lporter229 (Lporter229)
New member Username: Lporter229 Post Number: 39 Registered: 11-2007 |
Relevant how his remains are scattered after they become a powder? Is that the environmentally friendly part? Or just that he was turned to a powder by freezing rather than incineration? In which case, the means by which he is turned into a powder required little or no energy? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 827 Registered: 8-2001 |
Lporter: Relevant how his remains are scattered after they become a powder? no Is that the environmentally friendly part? no Or just that he was turned to a powder by freezing rather than incineration? yes In which case, the means by which he is turned into a powder required little or no energy? no, its not about the energy used | ||
| Lporter229 (Lporter229)
New member Username: Lporter229 Post Number: 44 Registered: 11-2007 |
Does it require energy from an external source? Is an electric current passed through the ice and since it is so cold it turns to a powder from the vibration of the current? | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 1005 Registered: 6-2007 |
was he used for compost? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 829 Registered: 8-2001 |
Lporter: Does it require energy from an external source? yes Is an electric current passed through the ice no and since it is so cold it turns to a powder from the vibration of the current? no, but explore Sixtyeight: was he used for compost? no | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 1158 Registered: 9-2003 |
is the powder he was turned into used for anything? i.e. did he kind of recycle his body? is vibration relevant at all? electricity? | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1111 Registered: 6-2005 |
Did they coat him in salt and let animals lick him to itty bitty pieces? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 831 Registered: 8-2001 |
Damia: is the powder he was turned into used for anything? no...scattered i.e. did he kind of recycle his body? no is vibration relevant at all? yes electricity? indirectly Dlcygnet: Did they coat him in salt and let animals lick him to itty bitty pieces? no, you people are crazy...I love it! | ||
| Lporter229 (Lporter229)
New member Username: Lporter229 Post Number: 49 Registered: 11-2007 |
Do they just put him onto some type of vibrating platform that turns him into dust from the vibrations? | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 1924 Registered: 6-2006 |
Did they use a jackhammer? | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 834 Registered: 8-2001 |
Lporter: Do they just put him onto some type of vibrating platform that turns him into dust from the vibrations? yes Spoyler to follow | ||
| Wildcard (Wildcard)
New member Username: Wildcard Post Number: 835 Registered: 8-2001 |
********* SPOILER ************ As an alternative to burial, cremation is no longer green enough, say environmentalists, because it releases smoke and mercury, and thus the industry is considering "promession," in which the body is frozen in liquid nitrogen to minus-320 degrees (F) and then shaken until it disintegrates into powder. For green burials, the United States has at least six cemeteries that require biodegradable casings and for bodies to be free of embalming chemicals. The Forever Fernwood cemetery in Mill Valley, Calif., goes even further, according to an October Los Angeles Times story, banning grave markers, but, said the owner, "We issue the family a Google map with the GPS coordinates" so they can find their loved one. [Los Angeles Times, 10-28-07; Evening Standard (London), 10-10-07] Thanks so much guys! Lots of good work on this one! | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 1911 Registered: 1-2001 |
And we're the crazy ones (per your post on 11/29)??? Cool puzzle! What is the world coming to? |
