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Tsoram1970 (Tsoram1970)
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Al spoke to Bob and gave him explicit clear instructions. Bob followed these and told Al that he had done so. Al then realised that he should have told Charlie instead.
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Anything to do with their initials? A tells B who should tell C?
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Anything to do with their initials?no A tells B who should tell C?no
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Is there a relevant difference between Bob and Charlie? For example, is Bob color-blind? Very tall? Very short?
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did he follow some instruction literally? when Al was maybe using a figure of speech? something similar?

jobs relevant?

all of them h? a? m?

Bob = him? = first he?
Al = second he?
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Is Charlie responsible for a portion of the process that undid everything that Bob did? Vice versa? Would the problem work if Al had told both of them? Are these instructions that more than one person can follow? At the same time?
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Is there a relevant difference between Bob and Charlie?yes For example, is Bob color-blind? Very tall? Very short?but not like any of these
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~damia~:

did he follow some instruction literally?Yes when Al was maybe using a figure of speech?no something similar? no

jobs relevant? Yes

all of them h? a? m?yes to all three

Bob = him? = first he? yes
Al = second he?yes

Dlcygnet:

Is Charlie responsible for a portion of the process that undid everything that Bob did?no Vice versa?no Would the problem work if Al had told both of them?No. Phrasing this carefully... Al would still have had a problem, but a much lesser one, and a very different one Are these instructions that more than one person can follow?yessish At the same time?Yessish

think there might be a slight FA here, but I'll wait before calling it...
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could the statement be put as Al wished he had told Charlie to do it, because Charlie would have done it differently? better? correctly? would he have done something extra? is he more experienced?

is the job:

artistic/musical/writer?
Banking/financial/real estate?
Clerical/Administrative?
Computer related / Hardware ?
Construction / Craftsman ?
Education / Academic Research ?
Entertainment / Media ?
Executive / Management ?
Hospitality / Travel ?
Legal Services ?
Manufacturing / Distributions ?
Medical / Health Services ?
Politics / Government / Military ?
Sales / Marketing ?
Technical / Science / Engineering ?
Teaching / Child care?
Transportation ?
Food Service ?
Sports?
Jailbird / Criminal?
Religion?
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could the statement be put as Al wished he had told Charlie to do it, because Charlie would have done it differently?no better?No correctly?No would he have done something extra?No is he more experienced?No

is the job:

artistic/musical/writer?
Banking/financial/real estate?
Clerical/Administrative?
Computer related / Hardware ?
Construction / Craftsman ?
Education / Academic Research ?
Entertainment / Media ?
Executive / Management ?
Hospitality / Travel ?
Legal Services ? probably this one...but don't go thinking lawyers and such
Manufacturing / Distributions ?
Medical / Health Services ?
Politics / Government / Military ? could also be this one
Sales / Marketing ?
Technical / Science / Engineering ?
Teaching / Child care?
Transportation ?
Food Service ?
Sports?
Jailbird / Criminal?
Religion?
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police? fbi? some kind of security guard?
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Is there a relevant fourth party involved? Relevant how Bob told Al he'd followed the instructions? Did one or more problems result from the way Bob carried out the instructions? Did he follow them properly?
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~damia~:

police?This one fbi? some kind of security guard?

Bodo:

Is there a relevant fourth party involved? noRelevant how Bob told Al he'd followed the instructions?yessish Did one or more problems result from the way Bob carried out the instructions?No Did he follow them properly?Yes
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did Bob do something that Al hadn't wanted him to do? did he do something too well?

did the instructions involve going somewhere? dealing with criminals? arresting someone? any firearms involved? other weapons?
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~damia~:

did Bob do something that Al hadn't wanted him to do?No- that is to say that Bob followed the instructions given to him to the letter and Al did not leave any out etc did he do something too well? No

did the instructions involve going somewhere?yes dealing with criminals?no arresting someone?No any firearms involved?Yes! other weapons?No
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Would Charlie also have followed the instructions to the letter? The difference, is it physical? would any person looking at Bob and Charlie be able to detect the difference?
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Is Charlie more intelligenter than Bob?
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Eli:

Would Charlie also have followed the instructions to the letter?Perhaps The difference, is it physical?yes...but this may mislead would any person looking at Bob and Charlie be able to detect the difference?Yes

Bentarm:

Is Charlie more intelligenter than Bob?no... and neither is he more intelligent.
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Just to clarify that answer to Eli... AL would have certainly wanted Charlie to carry out the instructions to the letter... whether he would have is a different question, and ultimately not relevant here.
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Did Al get shot by Bob? Relevant what kind of firearm was used? What kind Charlie would have used?
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Bodo:

Did Al get shot by Bob?no Relevant what kind of firearm was used?no What kind Charlie would have used?No
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Was the firearm actually used? Or just available? If it was used, is it relevant who? or what was shot?
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Was the firearm actually used?was a shot fired? no Or just available?Yes If it was used, is it relevant who? or what was shot?

Pleaase note that these questions are getting difficult to answer without misleading due to an FA!
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Was the firearm used in an 'non-traditional' way? like using it to hit someone? or not as a weapon at all?
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Eli: Was the firearm used in an 'non-traditional' way?no like using it to hit someone?no or not as a weapon at all?no
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Did Al ask Bob to do something with the firearm? Deliver it to soembody? put it someplace? test it? clean it? check it into eveidence? purchase it?

Are all three men police officers? Is Al? Bob? Charlie?

What Al asked of Bob...was it illegal? immoral?
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Did Al ask Bob to do something with the firearm?no Deliver it to soembody?no put it someplace?no test it?no clean it?no check it into eveidence?no purchase it?No

Are all three men police officers?NO! Is Al?Yes! Bob?No Charlie?no

What Al asked of Bob...was it illegal?no immoral?no
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Is Bob a criminal? Charlie? Did Al ask Bob to drop his firearm? And Bob did? But Charlie also had a firearm? and used it?

Was there a hostage situation? robbery?
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Is Bob a criminal?no... Charlie?Yes Did Al ask Bob to drop his firearm?No And Bob did?N/A But Charlie also had a firearm?Posssibly and used it?no

Was there a hostage situation?Yope robbery?no
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Had Al taken Charlie into custody?
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Had Al taken Charlie into custody?no...
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Was he attempting to?
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Did Al think that Bob was the criminal instead of Charlie?
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Was he attempting to?Yes!

Did Al think that Bob was the criminal instead of Charlie?Yope... why?

I'll give a wee hint here... methinks there is a massive assumption being made that might clear this up in a jiffy if resolved
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Are Bob and Charlie the same person-split personality?

Were Bob and Charlie involved in any activity before Al arrived on the scene?

Was Al called to the scene by either Bob or Charlie?
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Are Bob and Charlie the same person-split personality? no

Were Bob and Charlie involved in any activity before Al arrived on the scene? Not together no... and 'ware FA

Was Al called to the scene by either Bob or Charlie? No
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Al thought they were both criminals? Were they standing somewhere? Riding in something? On something? Smuggling penguins?
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Was Charlie present when Al gave the instructions to Bob? Did he give the instructions in person? over the phone? via e-mail? text? over a PA?

Were Al, Bob and Charlie present at the same location?
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Bodo:

Al thought they were both criminals?noish Were they standing somewhere?No Riding in something?no On something?No Smuggling penguins?LOL No

Lporter229:

Was Charlie present when Al gave the instructions to Bob?No Did he give the instructions in person?no... over the phone?YES! via e-mail? text? over a PA?no to all

Were Al, Bob and Charlie present at the same location?No!
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Were Bob and Charlie in the same place? Is there a relevant relationship between Bob and Charlie? Did they know each other?

Did Al mitakenly call the wrong number?
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Were Bob and Charlie in the same place?no Is there a relevant relationship between Bob and Charlie?no Did they know each other?no

Did Al mitakenly call the wrong number?YES!... Now all I need is what the situation is and we're done... No more relevant facts need be got... you do have enough by now to work it out in one answer...
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My guess is this...

Al was attempting to arrest a criminal from outside of the building, over the phone. He said something along the lines of "come out with your hands up" and when the person on the other end said that he was doing so, yet nobody came out of the building, Al realized he had the wrong #?
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My guess is this...

Al was attempting to arrest a criminal from outside of the building, over the phone. He said something along the lines of "come out with your hands up" and when the person on the other end said that he was doing so, yet nobody came out of the building, Al realized he had the wrong #?That's it!


************** SPOILER *****************

Al is a police officer organising a armed siege of Charlie's house. He rings the number and tells Bob (who answers the phone) that his house is surrounded and to come out with his hands up etc etc. Bob does so, but seeing nobody about comes back in and tells Al. Al then realises that he has dialled the wrong number!

One of these great stories you find on the net ... and then lose the link to when it comes time for the spoiler!

Well done to all who took part, but especially to Lori who stuck with it and completed the puzzle!
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These stroies just keep getting better and better. Can you imagine being Bob in this scenerio???

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