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| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2959 Registered: 8-2001 |
Annabeth is not at all bigoted against gays, & she knows that her friend Hugh isn't either. Yet she was embarrassed to tell Hugh that her next door neighbors were gay. How come?? | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1169 Registered: 6-2005 |
Is she embarassed to tell Hugh HOW she knows they are gay? Does her embarassment have something to do with what she's seen through the window? Something to do with how she's previously addressed her neighbors? Something to do with how Hugh has addressed her neighbors? A comment that was made? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2960 Registered: 8-2001 |
Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet) New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1169 Registered: 6-2005 Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 10:41 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is she embarassed to tell Hugh HOW she knows they are gay?no Does her embarassment have something to do with what she's seen through the window? no Something to do with how she's previously addressed her neighbors? no Something to do with how Hugh has addressed her neighbors? noA comment that was made? yes | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1174 Registered: 6-2005 |
Had her neighbors made a comment that embarassed her? Like finding her friend Hugh cute? And wanted to invite him over for some... ahem... fun? | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2381 Registered: 2-2001 |
Is Hugh gay? Straight? Bi? Are the neighbors male? Female? Relevant? | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 1945 Registered: 6-2006 |
Was the relevant comment made by the neighbors? By Annabeth? By Hugh? Was the relevant comment made TO the neighbors? To Annabeth? To Hugh? Had she previously made a comment to the effect that her neighbors were NOT gay? So she felt embarrassed to admit that she was wrong? Would she be equally embarrassed to tell someone other than Hugh who was also not bigoted against gays? | ||
| Travis (Travis)
New member Username: Travis Post Number: 7 Registered: 12-2007 |
Does Hugh know the neighbors in some other context (coworkers, relatives, etc.)? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2962 Registered: 8-2001 |
Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet) New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1174 Registered: 6-2005 Posted on Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 11:00 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Had her neighbors made a comment that embarassed her?no Like finding her friend Hugh cute?no And wanted to invite him over for some... ahem... fun?no Bodo (Bodo) New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2381 Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 3:52 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is Hugh gay? irrel Straight? ditto Bi? ditto Are the neighbors male? irrelFemale? ditto Relevant? no Beccaann (Beccaann) New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 1945 Registered: 6-2006 Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 4:45 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Was the relevant comment made by the neighbors? no By Annabeth?yes By Hugh? yes Was the relevant comment made TO the neighbors? no To Annabeth? yes To Hugh? yes Had she previously made a comment to the effect that her neighbors were NOT gay? no So she felt embarrassed to admit that she was wrong? no Would she be equally embarrassed to tell someone other than Hugh who was also not bigoted against gays? no Travis (Travis) New member Username: Travis Post Number: 7 Registered: 12-2007 Posted on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 4:02 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Does Hugh know the neighbors in some other context (coworkers, relatives, etc.)? no | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 1982 Registered: 6-2006 |
So there is a relevant conversation between Annabeth and Hugh? Does this conversation concern the neighbors? Does it concern bigotry? Homosexuality? | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1182 Registered: 6-2005 |
Does the conversation go something along the lines of... "I'll bet they're gay." "I'll bet they're not!" "I'll bet you one night of passion that they are!" "Deal!" | ||
| Mosquito (Mosquito)
New member Username: Mosquito Post Number: 432 Registered: 4-2005 |
Did A think that her neighbours' sexual orientation was none of her business, so she didn't want to comment on it? Would she have been equally embarrassed to tell H that her neighbours were straight? Were A and H usually comfortable discussing who was sleeping with whom? Were the neighbours roommates or a couple? Is that relevant? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2967 Registered: 8-2001 |
Beccaann (Beccaann) New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 1982 Registered: 6-2006 Posted on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 6:13 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) So there is a relevant conversation between Annabeth and Hugh? yes Does this conversation concern the neighbors? yes Does it concern bigotry? yes Homosexuality? no Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet) New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1182 Registered: 6-2005 Posted on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 11:33 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Does the conversation go something along the lines of... "I'll bet they're gay." "I'll bet they're not!" "I'll bet you one night of passion that they are!" "Deal!" no Mosquito (Mosquito) New member Username: Mosquito Post Number: 432 Registered: 4-2005 Posted on Friday, December 14, 2007 - 5:18 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did A think that her neighbours' sexual orientation was none of her business, so she didn't want to comment on it? no Would she have been equally embarrassed to tell H that her neighbours were straight? noWere A and H usually comfortable discussing who was sleeping with whom?no Were the neighbours roommates or a couple? yes Is that relevant? yes | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 1989 Registered: 6-2006 |
Did the conversation imply that the neighbors themselves were bigots? So upon learning that they were gay, that previous position seemed less likely? Did Annabeth know at the time of the relevant conversation that her neighbors were gay? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2970 Registered: 8-2001 |
Post Number: 1989 Registered: 6-2006 Posted on Friday, December 14, 2007 - 8:07 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did the conversation imply that the neighbors themselves were bigots? no So upon learning that they were gay, that previous position seemed less likely? no Did Annabeth know at the time of the relevant conversation that her neighbors were gay? yes | ||
| Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight)
New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 1030 Registered: 6-2007 |
During the conversation did Annabeth and Hugh share their attitudes towards bigotry? did they discuss bigotry? Did they discuss general bigotry? bigotry toward a specific race? lifestyle? Is the subject of gay marriage relevant? is a person other than the gay couple, Annabeth and Hugh relevant? any bigoted act rel? any bigoted statement? Is she embarassed to act against her beliefs? is more than 1 conversation relevant? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2973 Registered: 8-2001 |
Sixtyeight (Sixtyeight) New member Username: Sixtyeight Post Number: 1030 Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Saturday, December 15, 2007 - 1:54 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) During the conversation did Annabeth and Hugh share their attitudes towards bigotry? yes did they discuss bigotry? yesish Did they discuss general bigotry? see next answers bigotry toward a specific race? yesish lifestyle? yesish Is the subject of gay marriage relevant? no is a person other than the gay couple, Annabeth and Hugh relevant? yope any bigoted act rel? any bigoted statement? Is she embarassed to act against her beliefs? N/A is more than 1 conversation relevant? yes | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2979 Registered: 8-2001 |
HINT: Get background information about Hugh & Annabeth. | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2991 Registered: 8-2001 |
any bigoted act rel? no any bigoted statement? no ANOTHER HINT: Find out more about Hugh & Annabeth's political outlooks | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1662 Registered: 6-2001 |
Are the neighbours black? white? are Annabeth and Hugh black? white? are either Annabeth or Hugh bigotted against anyone other than gays? are they racist? is either of them? Did the neighbours do something which Annabeth and Hugh interpreted as bigotry, but is explicable by their being gay? (I can't think of anything, but I suppose it's possible...) If the neighbours were two gay men who weren't a couple, would Annabeth still be embarrassed to tell Hugh this? Is she embarrassed because it means something she said in a previous conversation is unjustified? something that Hugh said in a previous conversation is unjustified? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2997 Registered: 8-2001 |
Bentarm (Bentarm) New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1662 Registered: 6-2001 Posted on Wednesday, December 26, 2007 - 11:47 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Are the neighbours black? no white? yes are Annabeth and Hugh black?Annabeth is white; High can be any race white?See previous answer are either Annabeth or Hugh bigotted against anyone other than gays? no are they racist? no is either of them? no Did the neighbours do something which Annabeth and Hugh interpreted as bigotry, but is explicable by their being gay? no (I can't think of anything nor can I, but I suppose it's possible...) If the neighbours were two gay men who weren't a couple, would Annabeth still be embarrassed to tell Hugh this? no Is she embarrassed because it means something she said in a previous conversation is unjustified? yopesomething that Hugh said in a previous conversation is unjustified? no | ||
| Sunshine (Sunshine)
New member Username: Sunshine Post Number: 680 Registered: 1-2001 |
Had she previously seen both neighbours? Knew that they were same sex? that they were both white? Is gay marriage/civil union relevant? Were there only two neighbours? Did a woman live there (if the gay couple was male) or vice versa? A child? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3006 Registered: 8-2001 |
Sunshine (Sunshine) New member Username: Sunshine Post Number: 680 Registered: 1-2001 Posted on Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 4:01 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Had she previously seen both neighbours?yes Knew that they were same sex? yes that they were both white? yes Is gay marriage/civil union relevant? no Were there only two neighbours? irrel Did a woman live there (if the gay couple was male) or vice versa? irrel A child? irrel | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1205 Registered: 6-2005 |
Is Hugh a big civil rights activist? Hold strong equality beliefs? Meanwhile, her gay neighbors discriminate against group X? Despite being in a discriminated group themselves? Had they been discriminatory towards Hugh? And Hugh was venting about white supremicist males needing to be on the receiving end of such behavior? Annabeth was embarassed to say something because she knew Hugh just needed to vent? And because their behavior was very contradictory? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3012 Registered: 8-2001 |
Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet) New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1205 Registered: 6-2005 Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2008 - 10:59 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is Hugh a big civil rights activist? possibly but not necessarily Hold strong equality beliefs? yes Meanwhile, her gay neighbors discriminate against group X? no Despite being in a discriminated group themselves? no Had they been discriminatory towards Hugh? no And Hugh was venting about white supremicist males needing to be on the receiving end of such behavior? no Annabeth was embarassed to say something because she knew Hugh just needed to vent? no And because their behavior was very contradictory? no | ||
| Buzzard (Buzzard)
New member Username: Buzzard Post Number: 873 Registered: 6-2003 |
Is it relevant that A is female? That H is male? Does this have anything to do with gays in the military? Discrimination in employment? Discrimination in housing? Racist violence? Homophobic violence? Is A's profession relevant? H's? the neighbors'? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3016 Registered: 8-2001 |
Buzzard (Buzzard) New member Username: Buzzard Post Number: 873 Registered: 6-2003 Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 12:12 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is it relevant that A is female? no That H is male? no Does this have anything to do with gays in the military? no Discrimination in employment?\b} no} Discrimination in housing? no Racist violence? Homophobic violence? no Is A's profession relevant? H's? the neighbors'? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3017 Registered: 8-2001 |
Is A's profession relevant? no H's? the neighbors'? no | ||
| Buzzard (Buzzard)
New member Username: Buzzard Post Number: 908 Registered: 6-2003 |
Does Hugh live in Annabeth's neighborhood? Was Annabeth complaining to Hugh that her neighborhood was so boring because everyone in it was white and straight? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3024 Registered: 8-2001 |
Buzzard (Buzzard) New member Username: Buzzard Post Number: 908 Registered: 6-2003 Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 7:28 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Does Hugh live in Annabeth's neighborhood? irrel Was Annabeth complaining to Hugh that her neighborhood was so boring because everyone in it was white and straight? no | ||
| Buzzard (Buzzard)
New member Username: Buzzard Post Number: 910 Registered: 6-2003 |
Had Hugh said something that implied that he assumed that the neighbors were straight? Had Annabeth? Were H and A discussing whether the neighbors had ever experienced bigotry? whether A had ever experienced bigotry? whether H had? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3025 Registered: 8-2001 |
New member Username: Buzzard Post Number: 910 Registered: 6-2003 Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 7:39 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Had Hugh said something that implied that he assumed that the neighbors were straight?no Had Annabeth?no Were H and A discussing whether the neighbors had ever experienced bigotry?no whether A had ever experienced bigotry? no whether H had? no | ||
| Buzzard (Buzzard)
New member Username: Buzzard Post Number: 915 Registered: 6-2003 |
Do the neighbors have any other roommates? Or is it just the couple living together? Is A's living situation relevant? Is H's? Overall, is A liberal? Conservative? What about H? Are any specific political beliefs relevant here, apart from those relating to race- and sexuality-based bigotry? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3027 Registered: 8-2001 |
Buzzard (Buzzard) New member Username: Buzzard Post Number: 915 Registered: 6-2003 Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 7:51 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Do the neighbors have any other roommates? no Or is it just the couple living together? yes Is A's living situation relevant?yesish Is H's? no Overall, is A liberal? yes Conservative? no What about H?irrel Are any specific political beliefs relevant here, apart from those relating to race- and sexuality-based bigotry? no | ||
| Buzzard (Buzzard)
New member Username: Buzzard Post Number: 918 Registered: 6-2003 |
I'm surprised this hasn't been asked yet: is Annabeth gay? straight? bi? other? Is this relevant? Does A live alone? with a spouse? with a partner? with children? with other family? with roommates? Does A have a significant other she doesn't live with? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3028 Registered: 8-2001 |
Buzzard (Buzzard) New member Username: Buzzard Post Number: 918 Registered: 6-2003 Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 8:16 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) I'm surprised this hasn't been asked yet: is Annabeth gay? no straight? yes bi? no other? Is this relevant? yes Does A live alone? with a spouse? with a partner? with children? with other family? with roommates? Does A have a significant other she doesn't live with? all these are irrel | ||
| Buzzard (Buzzard)
New member Username: Buzzard Post Number: 922 Registered: 6-2003 |
Is the only relevant(ish) aspect of A's living situation the fact that she has gay neighbors? Or is some other aspect relevant? Does A live in a house? an apartment? a dormitory? Should we be finding out more about this neighborhood? (urban? suburban? rural? hippie commune?) Was A embarrassed for herself? for H? because she felt foolish? because she had done something foolish? said something foolish? because H had done something foolish? said something foolish? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3029 Registered: 8-2001 |
Buzzard (Buzzard) New member Username: Buzzard Post Number: 922 Registered: 6-2003 Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 8:51 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is the only relevant(ish) aspect of A's living situation the fact that she has gay neighbors?\bP yes, & something else you've already established--she doesn't live with her gay lover (as she's not gay)} Or is some other aspect relevant? see previous answer Does A live in a house? irrelan apartment? irrel a dormitory? irrelShould we be finding out more about this neighborhood? (urban? suburban? rural? hippie commune?) no. it's irrel Was A embarrassed for herself? yes for H? no because she felt foolish? yes because she had done something foolish? see next answer said something foolish? yes because H had done something foolish? no said something foolish? no | ||
| Adryghi (Adryghi)
New member Username: Adryghi Post Number: 3 Registered: 1-2008 |
A was embarrassed because she said something foolish to H? To the neighbors? She said something foolish to H/the neighbors 'before' she found out the neighbors were gay? After she found out? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3034 Registered: 8-2001 |
Adryghi (Adryghi) New member Username: Adryghi Post Number: 3 Registered: 1-2008 Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 7:43 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) A was embarrassed because she said something foolish to H? yesish To the neighbors? no She said something foolish to H/the neighbors 'before' she found out the neighbors were gay? no After she found out? yes | ||
| Buzzard (Buzzard)
New member Username: Buzzard Post Number: 934 Registered: 6-2003 |
When A said the foolish thing, did she think that H already knew that the neighbors were gay? But H didn't know the neighbors were gay? So he misunderstood/didn't understand what A said? Was A trying to make a joke? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3037 Registered: 8-2001 |
Buzzard (Buzzard) New member Username: Buzzard Post Number: 934 Registered: 6-2003 Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 8:04 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) When A said the foolish thing, did she think that H already knew that the neighbors were gay? possibly But H didn't know the neighbors were gay? He did not. So he misunderstood/didn't understand what A said? no Was A trying to make a joke? no | ||
| Buzzard (Buzzard)
New member Username: Buzzard Post Number: 940 Registered: 6-2003 |
The foolish thing A said: did it mention the neighbors? did it mention gay people in general? did it mention A's neighborhood? Did A temporarily forget that the neighbors were gay? and therefore made a slip of the tongue? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3038 Registered: 8-2001 |
Buzzard (Buzzard) New member Username: Buzzard Post Number: 940 Registered: 6-2003 Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 8:41 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) The foolish thing A said: did it mention the neighbors? yes did it mention gay people in general? no did it mention A's neighborhood? no Did A temporarily forget that the neighbors were gay? and therefore made a slip of the tongue? no | ||
| Buzzard (Buzzard)
New member Username: Buzzard Post Number: 943 Registered: 6-2003 |
If H had known already that the neighbors were gay, would what A said still have been foolish? Was A telling H about something the neighbors did? something they said? some interaction she had had with them? some characteristic they had? Is it relevant that they are the next-door neighbors? Would the puzzle still work if they lived across the street from A? down the block? in another part of the neighborhood? Would the puzzle still work if A had known them in some other context? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3043 Registered: 8-2001 |
Buzzard (Buzzard) New member Username: Buzzard Post Number: 943 Registered: 6-2003 Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 8:56 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) If H had known already that the neighbors were gay, would what A said still have been foolish? yope Was A telling H about something the neighbors did? no something they said? no some interaction she had had with them? yope some characteristic they had? yes Is it relevant that they are the next-door neighbors? no Would the puzzle still work if they lived across the street from A? yes down the block? yes in another part of the neighborhood? yes Would the puzzle still work if A had known them in some other context? yes | ||
| Adryghi (Adryghi)
New member Username: Adryghi Post Number: 8 Registered: 1-2008 |
Did A say a sentence? More than a sentence? Did A say something about a physical characteristic the neighbors had? Something about their psychic? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3048 Registered: 8-2001 |
Adryghi (Adryghi) New member Username: Adryghi Post Number: 8 Registered: 1-2008 Posted on Sunday, January 13, 2008 - 10:53 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did A say a sentence? yes More than a sentence? yes Did A say something about a physical characteristic the neighbors had? no Something about their psychic? yes | ||
| Howardwoman (Howardwoman)
New member Username: Howardwoman Post Number: 10 Registered: 1-2008 |
Did she call them some slang term behind their back, which H took literally and repeated to the neighbors, not knowing about their lifestyle? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3052 Registered: 8-2001 |
Howardwoman (Howardwoman) New member Username: Howardwoman Post Number: 10 Registered: 1-2008 Posted on Friday, January 18, 2008 - 1:48 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did she call them some slang term behind their back, which H took literally and repeated to the neighbors, not knowing about their lifestyle? no | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3054 Registered: 8-2001 |
HINT: Think about why it is so important that A. is liberal | ||
| Buzzard (Buzzard)
New member Username: Buzzard Post Number: 952 Registered: 6-2003 |
Is A running for office? Is she involved in some sort of political activism? Is an election relevant? Was A talking (speculating?) about the neighbors' political position? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3057 Registered: 8-2001 |
Buzzard (Buzzard) New member Username: Buzzard Post Number: 952 Registered: 6-2003 Posted on Friday, January 18, 2008 - 7:46 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is A running for office?no Is she involved in some sort of political activism? irrel Is an election relevant? no Was A talking (speculating?) about the neighbors' political position? no | ||
| Buzzard (Buzzard)
New member Username: Buzzard Post Number: 958 Registered: 6-2003 |
Is it relevant how A. would/did react to someone falsely assuming/concluding/thinking that she is gay? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3073 Registered: 8-2001 |
Buzzard (Buzzard) New member Username: Buzzard Post Number: 958 Registered: 6-2003 Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 9:46 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is it relevant how A. would/did react to someone falsely assuming/concluding/thinking that she is gay? yes | ||
| Buzzard (Buzzard)
New member Username: Buzzard Post Number: 961 Registered: 6-2003 |
Did someone, in fact, falsely think A. was gay? If so, was it the neighbors? (one of them? both of them?) Did they say something to A. about it? Otherwise indicate their false belief to A.? Because A. is liberal, does this mean she wouldn't mind so much if someone thought she was gay? Would she politely correct them? Would she not even do that? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3076 Registered: 8-2001 |
Buzzard (Buzzard) New member Username: Buzzard Post Number: 961 Registered: 6-2003 Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 9:58 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did someone, in fact, falsely think A. was gay? no If so, was it the neighbors? n/a (one of them? n/a both of them?n/a) Did they say something to A. about it?n/a Otherwise indicate their false belief to A.?n/a Because A. is liberal, does this mean she wouldn't mind so much if someone thought she was gay? yesWould she politely correct them? possiblyWould she not even do that? possibly | ||
| Buzzard (Buzzard)
New member Username: Buzzard Post Number: 963 Registered: 6-2003 |
Was A. talking to H. about the possibility of someone falsely thinking that she is gay? When I was in college, the campus GLB group organized a "blue jeans for gay pride" day. I guess the idea was that straight people were supposed to wonder if, by wearing blue jeans, they would make people think they were gay, and to think about whether there was anything wrong with that. But I don't remember much about it. Is something like this relevant? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3080 Registered: 8-2001 |
Buzzard (Buzzard) New member Username: Buzzard Post Number: 963 Registered: 6-2003 Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 10:17 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Was A. talking to H. about the possibility of someone falsely thinking that she is gay? no When I was in college, the campus GLB group organized a "blue jeans for gay pride" day. I guess the idea was that straight people were supposed to wonder if, by wearing blue jeans, they would make people think they were gay, and to think about whether there was anything wrong with that. But I don't remember much about it. Is something like this relevant? no | ||
| Buzzard (Buzzard)
New member Username: Buzzard Post Number: 965 Registered: 6-2003 |
And here, I thought I was making progress. Had A. had any relevant conversation about how she would react if someone thought she was gay? If so, with the neighbors? with someone else not yet discovered? It is mentioned above that A. and the neighbors are all white - is it also relevant how A. would react to a false assumption about her race? how the neighbors would react to a false assumption about theirs? Is there any other relevant reason why A. must be liberal? | ||
| Oirad (Oirad)
New member Username: Oirad Post Number: 2 Registered: 1-2008 |
Are the neighbors in any kind of relationship with Hugh (family)? Did she make a comment in such way that if Hugh find out about neighbors, he will think that she isn't so liberal? Is Hugh planing to move in with neighbors like a roommate? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3081 Registered: 8-2001 |
Buzzard (Buzzard) New member Username: Buzzard Post Number: 965 Registered: 6-2003 Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 10:38 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) And here, I thought I was making progress. Had A. had any relevant conversation about how she would react if someone thought she was gay? no If so, with the neighbors? with someone else not yet discovered? It is mentioned above that A. and the neighbors are all white - is it also relevant how A. would react to a false assumption about her race? yes how the neighbors would react to a false assumption about theirs? no Is there any other relevant reason why A. must be liberal? yes Oirad (Oirad) New member Username: Oirad Post Number: 2 Registered: 1-2008 Posted on Thursday, January 24, 2008 - 10:40 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Are the neighbors in any kind of relationship with Hugh (family)?no Did she make a comment in such way that if Hugh find out about neighbors, he will think that she isn't so liberal? no Is Hugh planing to move in with neighbors like a roommate? no | ||
| Buzzard (Buzzard)
New member Username: Buzzard Post Number: 969 Registered: 6-2003 |
Is it relevant how someone might make a false assumption about A's race? Does she look like she might be of a different race? Or would someone make the assumption without seeing her? Is it relevant (or even true) that gay people and racial minorities are more likely than straight white people to be liberal? more likely to be involved in anti-bigotry work? Did A. have a relevant experience of being the only straight white person in a particular group? at a particular event? of being in the minority because of her race and/or sexual orientation, when she is usually in the majority? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3088 Registered: 8-2001 |
Buzzard (Buzzard) New member Username: Buzzard Post Number: 969 Registered: 6-2003 Posted on Friday, January 25, 2008 - 11:54 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is it relevant how someone might make a false assumption about A's race? no Does she look like she might be of a different race? irrel Or would someone make the assumption without seeing her? irrel Is it relevant (or even true) that gay people and racial minorities are more likely than straight white people to be liberal? it's irrel. As for truth, my impression is that gays are more likely than straights to be liberal on social issues & blacks & Latinos are more likely than whites to be liberal on economic issues. Anyway, it's irrel more likely to be involved in anti-bigotry work?irrel Did A. have a relevant experience of being the only straight white person in a particular group? irrel at a particular event? irrel of being in the minority because of her race and/or sexual orientation, when she is usually in the majority? irrel | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3093 Registered: 8-2001 |
HINT: This is a funny story. | ||
| Adryghi (Adryghi)
New member Username: Adryghi Post Number: 20 Registered: 1-2008 |
Should we learn more about Annabeth? About her body? About her habits? About her past? About her beliefs? About her family? About her friends? About her job? Is the story funny because of what Annabeth said? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3104 Registered: 8-2001 |
Adryghi (Adryghi) New member Username: Adryghi Post Number: 20 Registered: 1-2008 Posted on Thursday, January 31, 2008 - 7:37 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Should we learn more about Annabeth? yes About her body? no About her habits? yope About her past? yope About her beliefs? yes About her family no About her friends? no About her job? no Is the story funny because of what Annabeth said? yesish | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 1244 Registered: 9-2003 |
has she ever been gay? had a gay experience? does her comment suggest that she is bigoted? even if she isn't is some misunderstanding involved? does she use a word/phrase etc not understanding the relevance of it? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3110 Registered: 8-2001 |
~damia~ (~damia~) New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 1244 Registered: 9-2003 Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 11:49 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) has she ever been gay?no had a gay experience? no does her comment suggest that she is bigoted? yope or noish even if she isn't is some misunderstanding involved? no does she use a word/phrase etc not understanding the relevance of it? no | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3119 Registered: 8-2001 |
HINT: Annabeth sets great store by her liberalism. | ||
| Mosquito (Mosquito)
New member Username: Mosquito Post Number: 439 Registered: 4-2005 |
Is she one of the type who feel they deserve a medal for not being homophobic (but probably are)? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3123 Registered: 8-2001 |
Mosquito (Mosquito) New member Username: Mosquito Post Number: 439 Registered: 4-2005 Posted on Monday, February 11, 2008 - 6:32 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is she one of the type who feel they deserve a medal for not being homophobic (but probably are)?She's definitely not prejudiced against gays but she is proud of being liberal in general | ||
| Mosquito (Mosquito)
New member Username: Mosquito Post Number: 440 Registered: 4-2005 |
Is Anna politically liberal? Is she, for some strange reason, proud of her beliefs? Or is she proud of what she does to support her beliefs? | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2429 Registered: 2-2001 |
Is the political leaning of her gay neighbors relevant? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3126 Registered: 8-2001 |
Mosquito (Mosquito) New member Username: Mosquito Post Number: 440 Registered: 4-2005 Posted on Thursday, February 14, 2008 - 1:25 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is Anna politically liberal? yesIs she, for some strange reason, proud of her beliefs? She's proud of her beliefs but not necessarily for a "strange" reason Or is she proud of what she does to support her beliefs? possibly Bodo (Bodo) New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2429 Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Thursday, February 14, 2008 - 7:29 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is the political leaning of her gay neighbors relevant? yesish | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2430 Registered: 2-2001 |
Are they Log Cabin Republicans? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3130 Registered: 8-2001 |
Bodo (Bodo) New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2430 Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Friday, February 15, 2008 - 6:38 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Are they Log Cabin Republicans?no | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3144 Registered: 8-2001 |
HINT: Previously in the conversation at issue,Hugh said something to Annabeth that offended her. | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1236 Registered: 6-2005 |
Does this story have anything to do with farting? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3147 Registered: 8-2001 |
Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet) New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1236 Registered: 6-2005 Posted on Friday, February 29, 2008 - 10:57 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Does this story have anything to do with farting? no | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3155 Registered: 8-2001 |
Hint: Annabeth is in away embarrassed about her attitude toward gays, but in no way is her attitude negative. | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 1016 Registered: 4-2007 |
Please excuse me if I repeat anything that's already been covered...I'd like to get this puzzle going again! Presumable we need to discover Annabeth's precise attitude? Does she believe that gay people are totally equal to others? Does she accept them but not activel approve of them? Ia she fine with other people being gay, but wouldn't want others to think that she herself was? Is she embarrassed because she feels her attitude should be more positive? More negative? Because her attitude is uncommon? Because she shares the attitude witha group of people with whom she would rather not be associated? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3173 Registered: 8-2001 |
Enjay (Enjay) New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 1016 Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 6:55 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Please excuse me if I repeat anything that's already been covered...I'd like to get this puzzle going again! Presumable we need to discover Annabeth's precise attitude? not really--it's enough to know that she's very liberal about gays & everythingh else & proud of it Does she believe that gay people are totally equal to others? yes Does she accept them yes but not activel approve of them no--she approvers of them just fine? Ia she fine with other people being gay yes, but wouldn't want others to think that she herself was no--she wouldn't mind if other people thought she was gay? Is she embarrassed because she feels her attitude should be more positive? no More negative? no Because her attitude is uncommon? no Because she shares the attitude witha group of people with whom she would rather not be associated? no | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 18 Registered: 5-2003 |
Is A's, H's, or the neighbors' professions relevant? Is AIDS, promiscuity, adoption or some other political handball involved (for example, the bigoted assumption that only gays get AIDS, or that they deserve it)? Does the liberal-political aspect have to do with a specific law being or having been passed (like Don't Ask Don't Tell or something) Has H met the gay couple? Has A (in the sense that they know each other well and have not just introduced themselves and nothing else)? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3176 Registered: 8-2001 |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo) New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 18 Registered: 5-2003 Posted on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 1:34 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is A's, H's, or the neighbors' professions relevant? no Is AIDS, promiscuity, adoption or some other political handball involved (for example, the bigoted assumption that only gays get AIDS, or that they deserve it)? no Does the liberal-political aspect have to do with a specific law being or having been passed (like Don't Ask Don't Tell or something) no Has H met the gay couple? no Has A (in the sense that they know each other well and have not just introduced themselves and nothing else)? yes | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1676 Registered: 6-2001 |
I'm not quite sure how the assumption that only gays get AIDS would qualify as bigoted, so far as I can see it would just qualify as obviously incorrect... anyway Does she have any belief whatever of the form "gay people are more likely to believe X"? Or "gay people are more likely to do X"? Where "X" is not directly related to being attracted to members of the same gender? eg, she thinks gay people are more likely to be liberal? Or more likely to like eating peanut butter? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3182 Registered: 8-2001 |
Bentarm (Bentarm) New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 1676 Registered: 6-2001 Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - 9:53 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) I'm not quite sure how the assumption that only gays get AIDS would qualify as bigoted, so far as I can see it would just qualify as obviously incorrect... anywaySome people might believe this as a result of bigotry, but others may be just misinformed Does she have any belief whatever of the form "gay people are more likely to believe X"? no Or "gay people are more likely to do X"? no Where "X" is not directly related to being attracted to members of the same gender? no eg, she thinks gay people are more likely to be liberal? irrel Or more likely to like eating peanut butter? no | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3189 Registered: 8-2001 |
HINT: Keep in mind that Annabeth's attitude toward gays is ENTIRELY FAVORABLE | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3202 Registered: 8-2001 |
ANOTHER HINT: The relevant conversation went as follows: A: Remark about the couple next door that does not mention that they're gay H: Question A: Why, no. Why do you ask? H: Answer A: That's a very insulting thing to say H: Apology & another question A: Larry & Steve | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 1038 Registered: 4-2007 |
Sorry, but I'm confused...is this a conversation that took place before Anna told Hugh that the neighbours were gay, or is that fact revealed during this conversation? Is Hugh's third question "What are their names"? Is it relevant what Annabeth's first remark is? Was it to do with the neighbours? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3206 Registered: 8-2001 |
Enjay (Enjay) New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 1038 Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 11:07 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Sorry, but I'm confused...is this a conversation that took place before Anna told Hugh that the neighbours were gay, or is that fact revealed during this conversation? It's revealed at the end Is Hugh's third question "What are their names"? He asks only 2 questions, & it's the second Is it relevant what Annabeth's first remark is? yes Was it to do with the neighbours? yes | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 1042 Registered: 4-2007 |
Is it Annabeth's response of "Larry and Steve" te thing that reveals the neighbours to be gay? Is the "Larry and Steve" part the first time that Hugh realises that both the neighbours are men? Prior to this, had he known that the neighbours were a couple but assumed they were a man and a woman? Was Annabeth's first remark connected to the neighbours being a couple? Could Hugh have had a perfectly innocent, non-insulting reason for asking his first question? Was Annabeth surprised at him asking him this question? If so, becuase she thought the answer should be obvious? Because the question seemed irrelevant? Was the first question asking something about the neighbours? About Annabeth? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3208 Registered: 8-2001 |
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 1042 Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Sunday, March 30, 2008 - 7:18 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is it Annabeth's response of "Larry and Steve" te thing that reveals the neighbours to be gay yes Is the "Larry and Steve" part the first time that Hugh realises that both the neighbours are men? yes Prior to this, had he known that the neighbours were a couple but assumed they were a man and a woman? yes Was Annabeth's first remark connected to the neighbours being a couple? yes Could Hugh have had a perfectly innocent, non-insulting reason for asking his first question? noish Was Annabeth surprised at him asking him this question? yes If so, becuase she thought the answer should be obvious? no Because the question seemed irrelevant? yes Was the first question asking something about the neighbours? yes About Annabeth? no | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 1044 Registered: 4-2007 |
So Annabeth was embarrassed to say "Larry and Steve"? Was her first comment something like "My neighbours make such a great couple", "Have you met the couple next door"? Was Hugh's insulting question insulting to the neighbours? To Annabeth? Was it mocking or challenging her liberal attitude? A guess...did the conversation go anything like this: Annabeth: I really like the couple next door Hugh: Are they black? (Or other minority group) A: Why no, why do you ask? H: Because I know you always love the minority groups Then Annabeth was angry that he was mocking her liberal beliefs, and embarrassed to admit they were gay because it suggested Hugh was right and she only liked them because they were a minority? (Sorry, I haven't explained this very well) | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3209 Registered: 8-2001 |
Enjay (Enjay) New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 1044 Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Sunday, March 30, 2008 - 8:40 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) So Annabeth was embarrassed to say "Larry and Steve"?yes Was her first comment something like "My neighbours make such a great couple", "Have you met the couple next door"? It was very close to the first, actually just a reference to "the lovely couple who moved in next door" Was Hugh's insulting question insulting to the neighbours? no To Annabeth? yesWas it mocking yes or challenging no her liberal attitude? A guess...did the conversation go anything like this: Annabeth: I really like the couple next door see above Hugh: Are they black? (Or other minority group) yesish A: Why no, why do you ask? yes H: Because I know you always love the minority groups yesish Then Annabeth was angry that he was mocking her liberal beliefs, and embarrassed to admit they were gay because it suggested Hugh was right and she only liked them because they were a minority? yesish (Sorry, I haven't explained this very well) Yes, you have!! At last, it's time for a ******SPOILER****************** Annabel: I got this recipe from the lovely couple who moved in next door. Hugh: Is at least one of them not white? Annabel: Why on earth are you asking? What difference would it make? Hugh: You have your "I'm a good liberal" voice. Annabel: That's a very insulting thing to say. Hugh: Sorry. By the way, what are their names? Annabel (softly) Larry & Steve. Thanks for sticking with it, everyone & for solving it, Enjay, & please check out my new puzzle you-know-where. | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 1048 Registered: 4-2007 |
Great puzzle! It was confusing right up to the very end :-) | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3211 Registered: 8-2001 |
Thanks!! Please solve my others!! |
