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Because Vera had gained weight, she ordered mashed potatoes rather than a baked potato, even the mashed potatoes were more fattening & she disliked being fat & also thought the baked potato would taste better. How come??
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Did she eat the mashed potatoes? all of them?
Would she have eaten the baked potato? all of it?

She thought the baked potato would taste better - so she would have eaten it more quickly? and therefore eaten more in total?

Did she order the potatoes as a side dish to a main meal? Is it relevant what else she ordered?
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Did she order them for herself? Relevant where? Restaurant? Any relevant event going on?
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Was Vera actually fat? Or had she gained weight to go from thin to less thin, or something?
Although she disliked being fat, was the fattening quality of the mashed potatoes desirable in this particular instance?
Was she trying to gain more weight temporarily for some reason?

Does the "money" mentioned in the title come into the picture? Were the mashed potatoes cheaper?
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Did she eat the mashed potatoes? yes all of them? no
Would she have eaten the baked potato? noall of it?

She thought the baked potato would taste better - so she would have eaten it more quickly? no and therefore eaten more in total? no

Did she order the potatoes as a side dish to a main meal? irrel Is it relevant what else she ordered? no
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Did she order them for herself? yes Relevant where? yes Restaurant? yes Any relevant event going on? no
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Was Vera actually fat? irrel Or had she gained weight to go from thin to less thin, or something? irrel
Although she disliked being fat, was the fattening quality of the mashed potatoes desirable in this particular instance? no
Was she trying to gain more weight temporarily for some reason? no

Does the "money" mentioned in the title come into the picture? Yes, & the puzzle title reflects my carelessness. I was originally gpoing to use a different version, one that mentioned money in the puzzle statement. Since I stupidly changed the title without changing the puzzle, the title is a HINT Were the mashed potatoes cheaper? no
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Is Vera an adult?
Is her job relevant?
Is her family status relevant? Is she married? Does she have children?
Is it relevant how Vera gained the weight?
Was Vera actively trying to lose weight?
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Is Vera an adult? yes
Is her job relevant?yesish
Is her family status relevant? noIs she married? irrel Does she have children? irrel
Is it relevant how Vera gained the weight? no
Was Vera actively trying to lose weight? irrel
P.S. Where are you now, Buzzard? Last I heard, you were on a postdoc but that was years ago.
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I'm now a writer for a science magazine. I like it a lot more than I ever liked research. :-)

Her job is relevant-ish: does that mean that some characteristic of her job is relevant?
Has her weight gain affected her job status? her ability to do her job?
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I'm now a writer for a science magazine. I like it a lot more than I ever liked research. :-) What magazine??

Her job is relevant-ish: does that mean that some characteristic of her job is relevant? yes
Has her weight gain affected her job status?no her ability to do her job? no
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This magazine: http://www.physicstoday.org

Is V employed full time? part time? Is she self-employed?
Any of the following characteristics of the job relevant:
How much money it pays?
How much education/training it requires?
Whether it involves travel?
Whether it involves heavy physical work?
Whether it involves working with people?
Some particular skill it requires?

If V by herself when she orders the potatoes? If not, is it relevant who else is there?
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This magazine: http://www.physicstoday.org Well, I never took physics, not even in high school, although I have taken courses in meteorology & even made forecasts for a city over the university meteorology dept's phone line

Is V employed full time? irrel part time? irrel Is she self-employed? irrel
Any of the following characteristics of the job relevant:
How much money it pays? yes
How much education/training it requires? no
Whether it involves travel? no
Whether it involves heavy physical work? no
Whether it involves working with people? no
Some particular skill it requires? no

If V by herself when she orders the potatoes? yes If not, is it relevant who else is there?
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Does V's job pay a lot (like a doctor, lawyer, etc.)? a moderate amount (like a teacher)? a modest amount (like a grad student)? a minimum-wage-type amount?

Are there undiscovered relevant characteristics of this restaurant? Is it a fancy restaurant? a casual sit-down restaurant? a fast food restaurant? some other type of counter-service restaurant?

Does the restaurant serve baked potatoes?

If V had not gained the weight, would she still have gone to this particular restaurant on this occasion?
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Does V's job pay a lot (like a doctor, lawyer, etc.)? noa moderate amount (like a teacher)? no a modest amount (like a grad student)? possibly a minimum-wage-type amount? most likely

Are there undiscovered relevant characteristics of this restaurant? Is it a fancy restaurant? possibly a casual sit-down restaurant? ditto a fast food restaurant? less likelysome other type of counter-service restaurant? possibly

Does the restaurant serve baked potatoes? yes

If V had not gained the weight, would she still have gone to this particular restaurant on this occasion? yes
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Did she order the mashed potatoes in an effort to save money? otherwise improve her financial status?

Is there anything relevant about her job, other than that it doesn't pay very much?
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Did she order the mashed potatoes in an effort to save money? yes--that was originally going to be ion the puzzle statement rather than the informstion about her weight. The puzzle was that the mashed potatoes were no cheaper than the baked. otherwise improve her financial status? no

Is there anything relevant about her job, other than that it doesn't pay very much? no
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Because she ordered the mashed potatoes instead of the baked potato, was she able to:
pay less for the meal as a whole?
pay less for some other meal?
pay less for something else?
avoid buying some other food item?
avoid buying some other non-food item?

I guess I should check: was her effort to save money successful? Vera isn't one of those incredibly thick puzzle characters of yours who think that babies come from infant formula or something, is she?
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Because she ordered the mashed potatoes instead of the baked potato, was she able to:
pay less for the meal as a whole? yes
pay less for some other meal?yes
pay less for something else? no
avoid buying some other food item? yes
avoid buying some other non-food item? no

I guess I should check: was her effort to save money successful? yes Vera isn't one of those incredibly thick puzzle characters of yours who think that babies come from infant formula or something, is she?You mean like the guy who thought a hearing aid would help him understans nuclear physics because they were advertised for people "who hear but do not understand" or the woman who thought having a stroke would give her a 50% chance at immortality because she read that "Half of all stroke patients eventuaslly die?" No.
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With mashed potato could she get a half portion?
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With mashed potato could she get a half portion? no
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HINT:Find out more about Vera in general.
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So because V ordered the mashed potatoes, she paid less for this particular meal, but it's not relevant what else she ordered? If she had ordered the baked potato, would she have ordered something else along with it? Is it relevant what?

Are any of the following relevant about Vera:
age?
physical characteristics? (height? appearance?)
relationships?
education?
religion (or lack thereof)?
political opinion?
other opinion?
nationality?
race?
sex? (would this puzzle work if Vera were a man?)
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So because V ordered the mashed potatoes, she paid less for this particular meal, but it's not relevant what else she ordered? yes If she had ordered the baked potato, would she have ordered something else along with it?not applicable Is it relevant what? see previous answer

Are any of the following relevant about Vera:
age?
physical characteristics? no (height? no appearance? no)
relationships? no
education? no
religion (or lack thereof)? yesish
political opinion? no
other opinion? yesish
nationality? no
race? no
sex? no (would this puzzle work if Vera were a man? yes)
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Is a charity relevant? Is Vera eating for charity? Dieting for charity? Is she the beneficiary of a charity?
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Is a charity relevant? no Is Vera eating for charity? no Dieting for charity? no Is she the beneficiary of a charity? no
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So Vera avoided having to buy another food product by buying the mashed potato rather that the baked potato? Could she physically have bought the baked, if she'd wanted?

Is it relevant that she didn't eat all the potato she bought?

Does she have any relevant religious beliefs? Or dietary needs? Non-religious beliefs or dietary needs?
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So Vera avoided having to buy another food product by buying the mashed potato rather that the baked potato? yes Could she physically have bought the baked, if she'd wanted? possibly but not necessarily

Is it relevant that she didn't eat all the potato she bought? yes

Does she have any relevant religious beliefs?noish Or dietary needs? no Non-religious beliefs yes or dietary needs no?
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Did Vera keep the uneaten portion of her mashed potatoes? Were they thrown in the trash?

Was Vera's intent to be less wasteful?
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Did Vera keep the uneaten portion of her mashed potatoes? no Were they thrown in the trash? yes

Was Vera's intent to be less wasteful? no
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Did Vera keep anything from the meal where she ordered the mashed potatoes?

Religion (or lack thereof) is relevantish, but religious beliefs are not-ish: Is Vera an atheist? an agnostic? Or is something about her religion relevant other than the beliefs?
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Did Vera keep anything from the meal where she ordered the mashed potatoes? noish

Religion (or lack thereof) is relevantish, but religious beliefs are not-ish: Is Vera an atheist? possibly an agnostic? dotto Or is something about her religion relevant other than the beliefs? yesish
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Is her religious heritage relevant, but not necessarily her current religious beliefs?
Is she (or could she be) Christian? Jewish? Muslim? Hindu? Buddhist? Other?
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Is her religious heritage relevant no, but not necessarily her current religious beliefs no, her current beliefs are relevant-ish?
Is she (or could she be) Christian? yes Jewish? yes Muslim? yes
Hindu? yes Buddhist? yes Other? yes
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Is it relevant that mashed potatoes contain dairy products and baked potatoes do not?
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Is it relevant that mashed potatoes contain dairy products and baked potatoes do not? no
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Is it because mashed potatoes come just as they are... but baked potatoes you get to add toppings to? I.e. The baked potato is healthier only if you don't add butter, sour cream, chives, bacon, cheese... etc. And if she ordered the baked potato she would have added all of that to make it taste better?
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Does Vera actually have any teeth?
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Is it because mashed potatoes come just as they are... but baked potatoes you get to add toppings to? no I.e. The baked potato is healthier only if you don't add butter, sour cream, chives, bacon, cheese... etc. And if she ordered the baked potato she would have added all of that to make it taste better?no
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Does Vera actually have any teeth? yes
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Is there a particular religious belief that it's relevant that Vera doesn't hold?

Are holidays relevant? Religious customs?
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Would buying a baked potato force Vera to pay a hidden cost that buying mashed potatoes would not?
(Were the mashed potatoes included with a combo meal sort of thing? would a baked potato have to be substituted? at an extra cost?)
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Is there a particular religious belief that it's relevant that Vera doesn't hold? yope or maybe noish

Are holidays relevant?no Religious customs? yope
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Would buying a baked potato force Vera to pay a hidden cost that buying mashed potatoes would not? no
(Were the mashed potatoes included with a combo meal sort of thing? no would a baked potato have to be substituted? at an extra cost?) no
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HINT: Although Vera could be any religion or no religion, something about her relation to religion is relevant. Find out precisely what.
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Lent relevant?
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Lent relevant? no
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does she observe a holiday? go to a religious place? do something in her home relevant to the religion? is her belief that there is a god relevant? or belief in fate/karma or similar?
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does she observe a holiday?irrel go to a religious place? irrel do something in her home relevant to the religion? irrel is her belief that there is a god relevant? yope or belief in fate/karma or similar? yope
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HINT: Since Vera can have any or no religion but her something about her religion is relevant, it's not the content of her religious beliefs. Find out what it is.
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Is anyone else's religion relevant? Someone who doesn't have the same religiosu beliefs as Vera?
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Is anyone else's religion relevant? no Someone who doesn't have the same religiosu beliefs as Vera? no
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Please correct me if this is wrong: she ate part of her mashed potatoes; what was left was thrown into the garbage and nothing relevant happened to the potatoes in between.

Also, did the portion of mashed potatoes cost the same as the portion of baked potatoes? I'm not sure I got this from the other posts.

Is she pretending to have religious beliefs? To justify her choice of meal?

Tipping relevant?
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Please correct me if this is wrong: she ate part of her mashed potatoes;yes what was left was thrown into the garbage yesand nothing relevant happened to the potatoes in between no.

Also, did the portion of mashed potatoes cost the or yesish not sure I got this from the other posts.

Is she pretending to have religious beliefs? no To justify her choice of meal? no

Tipping relevant? no
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Aha. Did anyone eat more of the mashed potatoes before they were thrown away? Did she do something more with them? Did the waiter/waitress? Did anyone else?
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Aha. Did anyone eat more of the mashed potatoes before they were thrown away? no Did she do something more with them? yes Did the waiter/waitress? yes Did anyone else? possibly but unlikely
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Aha. Did anyone eat more of the mashed potatoes before they were thrown away? no Did she do something more with them? yes Did the waiter/waitress? yes Did anyone else? possibly but unlikely
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Did the baked potatoes have extras like bacon bits and sour cream?
Did the mashed potatoes?

Did she have company while eating?
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Did the baked potatoes have extras like bacon bits and sour cream? irrel
Did the mashed potatoes? ditto

Did she have company while eating? no
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Were there baked potatoes in stock?
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Were there baked potatoes in stock? yes
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Seeing as how she left some mashed potatoes... Would she have finished all of the baked potato had she ordered it?
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Using the money hint, did she use her money faster, making her eat less later?
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Seeing as how she left some mashed potatoes... Would she have finished all of the baked potato had she ordered it? yes
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Using the money hint, did she use her money faster, making her eat less later? no
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Did she order mashed potatoes because she knew she'd eat less of the mashed potatoes?
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Did she order mashed potatoes because she knew she'd eat less of the mashed potatoes?
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Did she order mashed potatoes because she knew she'd eat less of the mashed potatoes? yope
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HINT: THERE'S A VERY IMPORTANT ASPECT OF VERA THAT NO ONE HAS INQUIRED ABOUT YET, EVEN THOUGH IT'S THE SORT OF THING THAT USUALLY GETS ASKED ABOUT IN THESE PUZZLES.
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Is Vera... human? Adult? Female?
Age: 0-5? 5-10? 10-15? 15-20? 20-25? 25-30? 30+
This takes place... pre 1980? 1980-1990 1990-2000? 2000+?
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Is Vera... human? yes Adult?see below Female? yes
Age: 0-5? no 5-10? no 10-15? possibly 15-20? ditto 20-25? ditto 25-30?ditto 30+ditto
This takes place... pre 1980? 1980-1990 1990-2000? 2000+? All these times are possible
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Lame question: did Vera lose weight because she was able to pay for the mashed potatoes with a lot of coins in her pocket, while this was not an option paying for baked potatoes? LOL
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Is Vera... human? yes Adult?see below Female? yes
Age: 0-5? no 5-10? no 10-15? possibly 15-20? ditto 20-25? ditto 25-30?ditto 30+ditto
This takes place... pre 1980? 1980-1990 1990-2000? 2000+? All these times are possible
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Lame question: did Vera lose weight because she was able to pay for the mashed potatoes with a lot of coins in her pocket, while this was not an option paying for baked potatoes? no LOL
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Was Vera a vegetarian? Like, if she had ordered the baked potatoes, this came with some non-vegetarian food? Kosher food involved here? Is Vera influenced by any sort of spiritual ideology of belief?

Did the fact that she ate less of the mashed potatoes than she would have if she ordered baked potato have anything to do with her ideological or religious beliefs?

Is the fact that she ate a potato dish without peel relevant? The color of the dish?
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Was Vera a vegetarian?no Like, if she had ordered the baked potatoes, this came with some non-vegetarian food? irrel Kosher food involved here? no Is Vera influenced by any sort of spiritual ideology of belief? no

Did the fact that she ate less of the mashed potatoes than she would have if she ordered baked potato have anything to do with her ideological or religious beliefs? no

Is the fact that she ate a potato dish without peel relevant? no The color of the dish? no
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HINT: Keep in mind that the only relevance of Vera's weight gain is that it left her with a shortage of money--because she had to buy a whole new wardrobe, but that's irrel. What is relevant is that, although I've been strapped for funds, I've never done what Vera did--& I bet none of you has, either (although of course, I don't really know this.)
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Relevant what she was paying with? Coins? Bills? Was there more of the baked potato or mashed potatoes? Over all, if she ordered mashed potatoes would she gain weight? More than a baked potato? Did they serve baked potatoes in smaller portions?
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Did she claim to have found something in the mashed potatoes that made her not want to eat them? And thus, she still got some food but the restaurant gave her her money back?
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Relevant what she was paying with? no Coins? irrel Bills? irrel Was there more of the baked potato or mashed potatoes? irrel Over all, if she ordered mashed potatoes would she gain weight? no More than a baked potato? no Did they serve baked potatoes in smaller portions? no
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Did she claim to have found something in the mashed potatoes that made her not want to eat them? YES!! And thus, she still got some food but the restaurant gave her her money back? yes

******SPOILER**********
Because Vera gained weight, she had to buy a whole new wardrobe & so didn't have much money. But she wanted to eat in a restaurant. So she ordered a meal with mashed potatoes, ate most of the meal & then snuck some broken glass (which she had brought with her) into the mashed potatoes & made a fuss. As a result, the restaurant didn't charge her for the meal. The relevance of her religion, by the way, is that she could not have been a devout follower of any religion I've ever heard of, as none would allow such behavior. Thanks for sticking with it, everyone, & for dolving it,Travis, & please direct your laserlike minds to my new puzzle at the bottom of the page, as well as at my two ongoing ones, for which I've posted HINTS
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Thanks for the compliment, Nimue! I'll definitely take a look...
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BY THE WAY, THIS PUZZLE COMES FROM A SITUATION IN A MYSTERY I READ

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