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Alex319 (Alex319)
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Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 4:09 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If only it were 90 seconds longer...
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Something good would have happened?
Something bad would have happened?
Something bad would have been prevented?

Is "it" a sporting event, perhaps?
Some kind of competition?

How long was "it" really: less than a minute? less than an hour? less than a day? less than a week? more than a week?
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Something good would have happened?See below
Something bad would have happened? Something would have happened, but it's hard to classify it as "good" or "bad"...
Something bad would have been prevented? No

Is "it" a sporting event, perhaps? No
Some kind of competition? No

How long was "it" really: less than a minute? less than an hour? Yes less than a day? less than a week? more than a week?
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It is a song?
Game?
Performance?
Television show?
Just a period of time?
A trip?
A movie?
A phonecall?

Are we actually measuring time here at all? Some other kind of second?
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It is a song?
Game?
Performance?
Television show?
Just a period of time?
A trip?
A movie?
A phonecall? This one

Are we actually measuring time here at all? Yes Some other kind of second?
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Did the phonecall in question fail to prevent a second phonecall (i.e. if on the phone for 90 more seconds, another caller would have gotten a busy signal)?
The persons on the phone,
You?
H?A?M?
Fictional?
From your imagination?
True story?
Someone waiting for someone else to come to the phone?
Phone line disconnected too soon?
Someone hang up?
Someone run out of money at a payphone?
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Did the phonecall in question fail to prevent a second phonecall (i.e. if on the phone for 90 more seconds, another caller would have gotten a busy signal)? No
The persons on the phone,
You? No
H?A?M? Yes to all
Fictional? No
From your imagination? No
True story? Yes
Someone waiting for someone else to come to the phone? No
Phone line disconnected too soon? No
Someone hang up? Yes, this was presumably how the phone call ended
Someone run out of money at a payphone? No
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Something relevent happen to someone after the phonecall? Within 90 sec of the phonecall?
Both parties? Or just one?
Are both parties to the phone call relevant?
Anyone die in this puzzle?
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Something relevent happen to someone after the phonecall? No Within 90 sec of the phonecall? No
Both parties? Or just one? Not sure what you mean by these
Are both parties to the phone call relevant? Yope
Anyone die in this puzzle? No
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Is the phonebill relevant?
The cost of the call relevant at all?
Is it correct to say that the only relevant activity happened during the phonecall?
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Is the phonebill relevant? No
The cost of the call relevant at all? No
Is it correct to say that the only relevant activity happened during the phonecall? No
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So something relevant happened before the phonecall involving people?
or, something relevant happened after the phonecall that did not involve people?
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So something relevant happened before the phonecall involving people? Yes
or, something relevant happened after the phonecall that did not involve people? No
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Is there a wager involved here?
A race of some kind going on?
Some type of timed event relevant?
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Is there a wager involved here? No
A race of some kind going on? No
Some type of timed event relevant? Yope
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Are both parties to the phone call relevant? Yope
Is it a conference call? 3, 4, 5, 6, 7... how many participants?
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Are both parties to the phone call relevant? Yope
Is it a conference call? 3, 4, 5, 6, 7... how many participants? There are only two participante. HINT: The most important fact about the phone call is its exact length.
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Is the length exactly 90 seconds? 90-180 seconds? More than 3 minutes?
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Is the length exactly 90 seconds? 90-180 seconds? More than 3 minutes? More than 3 minutes
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Does the call duration specifically match the length of an external event? Or, is it short of such a length by exactly 90 seconds?

Is the length relevant down to the minute? to the second? to more?

This leads to the question: was the purpose of the call actual talking between the parties? Say, like a usual phone call? or, something like a data transfer, or listening to a football game from someone's tv via phone? Is the point that one of the parties missed the last 90 seconds?
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Does the call duration specifically match the length of an external event? No Or, is it short of such a length by exactly 90 seconds? Yes

Is the length relevant down to the minute? to the second? <b.yes</b> to more?

This leads to the question: was the purpose of the call actual talking between the parties? Say, like a usual phone call? or, something like a data transfer, or listening to a football game from someone's tv via phone? Is the point that one of the parties missed the last 90 seconds? It was actual talking
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Was the call precisely three minutes and three seconds?

Assuming that's not right...

Is the location of the caller relevant? Location of the callee?
Is either party engaged in another activity at the time of the call? If so, caller? Callee?
Is either party travelling? If so, caller? Callee?

Did the caller want the call to last longer at the time?
Did the caller realise the significance of the length afterwards?
Is the desire for a longer call that of a third party?
Will the puzzlers wish the call had been longer when we know the full story?
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Was the call precisely three minutes and three seconds? No

Assuming that's not right...

Is the location of the caller relevant? No Location of the callee? No
Is either party engaged in another activity at the time of the call? If so, caller? Callee?
Is either party travelling? If so, caller? Callee?
No to all

Did the caller want the call to last longer at the time? No
Did the caller realise the significance of the length afterwards? Probably not, but if it were 90 seconds longer it would have been more likely
Is the desire for a longer call that of a third party? Yesish
Will the puzzlers wish the call had been longer when we know the full story? Perhaps
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Is the content of the call relevant?
Was there one main subject?
Or was the discussion more wide-ranging?

Is the relationship between the two people relevant?

Was the call longer than half an hour?
Did the call last an exact number of minutes?
Did the call end exactly halfway through a minute?
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Is the content of the call relevant? Somewhat
Was there one main subject? Yes
Or was the discussion more wide-ranging? No

Is the relationship between the two people relevant? Yes

Was the call longer than half an hour? No
Did the call last an exact number of minutes? Yes
Did the call end exactly halfway through a minute? No
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Did the two people know each other before the call?
Did they work together?
Were they related? by blood? by marriage?
Were they in a relationship?

Is one of them describing an event to the other?
Are they talking about a specific event? events of a particular kind?

Did the call last longer than fifteen minutes?
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Did the two people know each other before the call? Yes
Did they work together? Noish
Were they related? by blood? by marriage? No
Were they in a relationship? Business relationship, yes; Personal relationship, no

Is one of them describing an event to the other? No
Are they talking about a specific event? No events of a particular kind? Yesish

Did the call last longer than fifteen minutes? Yes
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Is one person a customer/client of the other?
Is one person an employee of the other?

Did the call last longer than twenty minutes?
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Is one person a customer/client of the other? Yes
Is one person an employee of the other? No

Did the call last longer than twenty minutes? No
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Was the phone call setting up a transaction? discussing a previous transaction?
Was the call to a customer support line? a complaints line? a sales department? a billing/credit control department?

Is the longer event another telephone call? between the same parties? involving one of the same parties?
Is a competition involved? a record of some sort?
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Did the call last 16? 17? 18? 19? 20? minutes?
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Was the phone call setting up a transaction? Yes discussing a previous transaction?
And this too Was the call to a customer support line? a complaints line? a sales department? a billing/credit control department?
None of the above
Is the longer event another telephone call? Yope between the same parties? No involving one of the same parties? No
Is a competition involved? Yes, but may mislead a record of some sort? Not "record" as in "world record", but a different kind of "record" is relevant

Did the call last 16? 17?Yes 18? 19? 20? minutes?
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So we're looking for something that lasted eighteen-and-a-half minutes? Is half-past-six relevant?

This different kind of record. Does the company record its calls? for training purposes?
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So we're looking for something that lasted eighteen-and-a-half minutes? Yes Is half-past-six relevant? No

This different kind of record. Does the company FA record its calls? Yes, a call was recorded, but... for training purposes? No
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Is the eighteen-and-a-half minute event a recording of a phone call?
If so, did it involve the customer/client? the seller/provider? both? neither?
Was it recorded by the customer/client? the seller/provider? both? a third party?

Is the seller/provider a sole trader? a professional like a lawyer?
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So the phone call was between two individuals, and not a company per se?

Was this specific call recorded?
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Is the eighteen-and-a-half minute event a recording of a phone call? Yope
If so, did it involve the customer/client? the seller/provider? both? neither? Neither
Was it recorded by the customer/client? the seller/provider? both? a third party? A third party


Is the seller/provider a sole trader? a professional like a lawyer? This one

So the phone call was between two individuals, and not a company per se? Yes

Was this specific call recorded? Irrelevant
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Is the professional a lawyer? doctor? accountant? architect? librarian?

Is the person who made the recording the police? other law enforcement? competitor to the professional? journalist?

Are the two people having the seventeen minute conversation worried about being recorded? Would they have been recorded if they had carried on talking?
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Is the professional a lawyer? doctor? No, but this is closest accountant? architect? librarian?

Is the person who made the recording the police? other law enforcement? competitor to the professional? journalist? None of the above

Are the two people having the seventeen minute conversation worried about being recorded? Would they have been recorded if they had carried on talking? No to both
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Is the professional a dentist? optician? vet?
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Is the professional a dentist? optician? vet? None
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Does the professional belong to a medical field I haven't guessed yet? (for example nurse)
Or is the similarity to a doctor slightly misleading? (for example an administrative role in a hospital)

Was the recorded phone call also between two people? neither of whom was recording it themselves?
Was it on the same topic as the seventeen minute call? a similar topic?
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Does the professional belong to a medical field I haven't guessed yet? Noish (for example nurse)
Or is the similarity to a doctor slightly misleading? This is closest (for example an administrative role in a hospital) But not this

Was the recorded phone call also between two people? Yes neither of whom was recording it themselves? Yes
Was it on the same topic as the seventeen minute call? No a similar topic? Yes, for a sufficiently broad definition of "topic"
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Does that mean that the recorded call was also between a professional and a client?
If so, were the two professionals in the same line of work?
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Does that mean that the recorded call was also between a professional and a client? No
If so, were the two professionals in the same line of work? No
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By "doctor" is this referring to a person with a different sort of doctorate? PhD? PsyD? DDS? EdD? Other?
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By "doctor" is this referring to a person with a different sort of doctorate? PhD? PsyD? DDS? EdD? Other? Medical doctor

HINT: You are going in completely the wrong direction.
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Another Hint: You have been a simple Google search away from the answer for several weeks now.
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Eighteen and a half minutes...

Watergate tapes relevant? Nixon?
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Watergate tapes relevant? Yes Nixon?

Spoiler:

The 17-minute phone call referred to is the phone call between Brian McNamee and Roger Clemens that provided key evidence in the illegal steroid investigations. If it were 90 seconds longer it would be the same length as the deleted sections of the Watergate tapes, leading to a barrage of humorous comparisons.
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Wow... I didn't know that. Thanks for the puzzle, Alex!

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