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Eli (Eli)
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Posted on Monday, February 18, 2008 - 10:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Timmy is a nice and generous person; he's willing to stretch far to help his friends, family and neighbours. But on one account his helpful attitude could have landed him in big trouble. Explore.
~damia~ (~damia~)
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generous with time? money? help? is one of these more relevant?
Eli (Eli)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 2:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

generous with time? money? help? is one of these more relevant? For this puzzle, help would be closest of these three.
~damia~ (~damia~)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 4:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did the one account involve a friend? family member? neighbour? more than one person? 2? 3? 4? 5? any relevant jobs?

Timmy - HAM?
Eli (Eli)
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Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 10:02 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did the one account involve a friend? family member? neighbour? all is possible more than one person? Yes, but exact number is irrelevant and not known either 2? 3? 4? 5? any relevant jobs? No

Timmy - HAM? Yes
Howardwoman (Howardwoman)
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Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 7:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Would he have helped to do something illegal?
Eli (Eli)
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Would he have helped to do something illegal? No, not willingly and consciously. But.....
~damia~ (~damia~)
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Posted on Friday, February 22, 2008 - 9:17 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did he think he was doing something legal? but it wasn't?

did someone specifically ask him to help them? or did he see something happening and try to help? and accidentally gave help to the wrong person? like calling a cab for a burglar sturggling with his loot or something
Eli (Eli)
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Posted on Friday, February 22, 2008 - 9:22 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did he think he was doing something legal? but it wasn't? What he did was totally legal.

did someone specifically ask him to help them? or did he see something happening and try to help? and accidentally gave help to the wrong person? like calling a cab for a burglar sturggling with his loot or something No to all
Eli (Eli)
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Posted on Monday, February 25, 2008 - 3:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Will try to breath life back into this puzzle

Timmy is doing something to help others. The thing he's doing is helping his friends, family and neighbours in one spesific way. What he's doing is saving them money, if they are using his "offer". He's not doing something actively and repeatedly, but he did something once and that keeps on "working" (yes, I know it's cryptic, but you'll soon understand, lol).

Era is relevant. This could not have been done before the 21st century.
Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
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Posted on Monday, February 25, 2008 - 5:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the thing only invented this century? A phone?
Eli (Eli)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2008 - 10:41 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the thing only invented this century? This spesific thing was, or maybe the first attempts were made in the late 90's, but it has only become a common thing in the last few years. However the technology behind it has been around for a while. Explore. A phone? Not a phone, but.....
Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2008 - 4:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

iPod? Did he give music to others without them paying for it?
Eli (Eli)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2008 - 10:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

iPod? Did he give music to others without them paying for it? No to both
Gourami (Gourami)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2008 - 10:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Banks involved? The internet? Computers in general? Is he helping someone use a piece of technology? Does he give them bad advice of any kind?
Eli (Eli)
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Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2008 - 4:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Banks involved? Hmm, difficult to answer. As such, no. But if worst case scenario HAD happened, it would most likely involve banks or financial institutions. The internet? Yes Computers in general? Just in the sense it has to do with the Internet Is he helping someone use a piece of technology? Yope. Explore. Does he give them bad advice of any kind? Not at all
Gourami (Gourami)
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Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2008 - 6:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was he helping someone physically present? Was he helping someone over the internet? Neither?

Is a certain website involved? If so, chatting/networking? Informational? E-commerce? Is he showing someone how to navigate the internet? Showing them a certain site? Doing something for them online?
Eli (Eli)
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Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2008 - 10:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was he helping someone physically present? Was he helping someone over the internet? Neither?

Is a certain website involved? If so, chatting/networking? Informational? E-commerce? Is he showing someone how to navigate the internet? Showing them a certain site? Doing something for them online? None of these actually
Gourami (Gourami)
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Was he helping any person in particular? Was the act that could have gotten him in trouble performed on/over the internet?

Does this have anything to do with his personal computer settings? Security? Viruses?

"big trouble"= losing money? going to jail? being embarassed? Making an enemy? Losing respect/honor?
Eli (Eli)
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Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2008 - 10:38 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was he helping any person in particular? No Was the act that could have gotten him in trouble performed on/over the internet? Yes-ish

Does this have anything to do with his personal computer settings? Yope Security? Yes Viruses? No

"big trouble"= losing money? going to jail? In worst case scenario, yes being embarassed? Making an enemy? Losing respect/honor? and bit of this I suppose, as he lives in a small community
Gourami (Gourami)
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Posted on Friday, February 29, 2008 - 10:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is there a password involved? Does he give someone his password? Does he know someone else's password?
Eli (Eli)
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Posted on Sunday, March 02, 2008 - 8:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is there a password involved? Yope Does he give someone his password? No Does he know someone else's password? and No
Alex319 (Alex319)
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Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 3:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ROT13 to read:

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Eli (Eli)
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Posted on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 2:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Alex, you're spot on.
Grainbeer (Grainbeer)
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Is there anything more to explore here? Alex has now given the answer to this puzzle, hasnīt he?
Eli (Eli)
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Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - 11:24 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is there anything more to explore here? Alex has now given the answer to this puzzle, hasnīt he? He has given the answer to what Timmy did to be helpful, but in what way could he have landed in trouble for this?
Alex319 (Alex319)
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Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - 11:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ROT13 to read:

Vs n unpxre pbaarpgrq gb gur Vagrearg ivn Gvzzl'f pbaarpgvba naq cresbezrq znyvpvbhf npgf, gurl pbhyq or genprq onpx gb Gvzzl'f VC nqqerff naq Gvzzl pbhyq or oynzrq.
Eli (Eli)
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Posted on Thursday, March 20, 2008 - 5:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)



*********** SPOILER *****************
Alex is perfectly right. "Timmy" is my nephew, who has let his wireless connection open for friends in the neighbourhood to use as they wish. But he got a shock when I told him about an incident in Finland. Police knocked on the toor to a family and almost arrested a man because his open wireless connection had been used by a neighbour when fraudently transferring money from a client account to an overseas account. But the same would be if a hacker tried or a person downloading child porn. It is the access point they trace.

I told him to rather give his password to friends and not leave it open, but whether or not he has done so, I do not know, lol... Youths never listen to adults, do they??

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