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Enjay (Enjay)
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Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2008 - 6:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I gave him one. He thought I was going to give him two.
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one item? two items? two of the same items? if so are the two items of the same sort as the one?

him = he = him? h? a? m?

I = actually you? so h? a? f?

any relevant job? any crime?
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one item? yes
two items? yes
two of the same items? if so are the two items of the same sort as the one? yes and yes

him = he = him? yes
h? no a? m? yes to other two, but irrel

I = actually you? so h? a? f?

any relevant job? any crime?
Enjay (Enjay)
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Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2008 - 9:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oops, sorry...

I = actually you? Yes to all so h? a? f? well technically not a...but irrel

any relevant job? any crime? Neither
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Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2008 - 3:50 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is it a body organ?
is it something you can hold in your hand?
is it alive?
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He is not human. Is he an animal? fish? reptile?
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Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2008 - 5:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I assume for the next three questions you are referring to the object I gave him one of?
is it a body organ? No
is it something you can hold in your hand? Yes
is it alive? No

He is not human. Is he an animal? Yes
fish? No
reptile? No
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Does it involve mirrors? some kind of trick? purposeful deception? accidental?

mammal? bird? pet?

did you give him food? toy?

is his gender relevant?
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Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 7:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does it involve mirrors? no
some kind of trick? no
purposeful deception? accidental? this

mammal? yes bird? pet? yes

did you give him food? this toy?

is his gender relevant? no
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cat? dog? rabbit? gerbil? hamster?
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Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 9:43 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

cat? this dog? rabbit? gerbil? hamster?
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Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 2:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did you give him fish? Meat? Milk? Dry food (like those small "biscuits", in lack of a better word for them...)?

Mirrors involved?
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Did you give him fish? Meat? This is closest, explore...
Milk? Dry food (like those small "biscuits", in lack of a better word for them...)?

Mirrors involved? No
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Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 8:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Would you feed the same thing to a dog? A duck? A human being? Would a dog be fooled (into thinking that you would give him two)? A duck? A human being?

Did you feed him eggs?
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Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 9:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Would you feed the same thing to a dog? A similar thing, though not exactly the same
A duck? Very unlikely
A human being? Ditto
Would a dog be fooled (into thinking that you would give him two)? Quite possibly
A duck? This seems less likely to m, though I don't really know enough about the intelligence of ducks
A human being? A human in a similar situation could certainly be excused for thinking I would give him two.

Did you feed him eggs? No
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Could we say that animals that are at least as intelligent as cats would be fooled, too?

Did you feed him canned food? Homemade food? Raw food? Cooked food? Food of animal origin? Does it contain any vegetables?

Was the cat fooled because of what you said? Did? Before you fed him? During? After?
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Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 10:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Could we say that animals that are at least as intelligent as cats would be fooled, too? Yes

Did you feed him canned food? No
Homemade food? Raw food? Cooked food? Food of animal origin? Does it contain any vegetables? To save unnecessary elaboration on this point (and because I'm not entirely sure of the food's composition), I'll just say that it was regular pre-packaged catfood. It contains meat and vegetables, but that's not really relevant.

Was the cat fooled because of what you said? Did? This
Before you fed him? This During? After?
Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
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Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 11:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I was really sure I had asked if it was regular cat food...

Did you take two food packages? Did you open two? Was it the usual type of cat food package you feed your cat?

Any other cat/pet involved?
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Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 - 5:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I was really sure I had asked if it was regular cat food... Well you asked if it was dry food...if I missed or misunderstood anything then I'm sorry

Did you take two food packages? Yes
Did you open two? No
Was it the usual type of cat food package you feed your cat? Yes

Any other cat/pet involved? No
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Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 - 8:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

No no, I was definitely the one who was thinking backwards...

I guess we have to figure out why you took two food packages. Right? Or did you do anything special that fooled the cat, besides taking two packages?
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Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 - 9:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

No no, I was definitely the one who was thinking backwards...

I guess we have to figure out why you took two food packages. Right? Not really...I just grabbed two by accident.
Or did you do anything special that fooled the cat, besides taking two packages? Yes, I did.
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Posted on Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 7:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are we talking tin cans here? Maybe the kind with a pull tab? Or was the cat food packaged in plastic bags? Other? Is the type of packaging relevant?

Any other objects involved?
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Posted on Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 7:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are we talking tin cans here? No Maybe the kind with a pull tab?
Or was the cat food packaged in plastic bags? It was in foil sachets, but plastic bags would work
Other? Is the type of packaging relevant? Only in that it would be harder to take two cans by accident

Any other objects involved? Yes
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The other objects... how many? 1? 2? 3? more? Scissors? The cat's food bowl? Spoons? Forks? Knives? Other kitchenware? Does it contain metal? Plastic? Wood? Tissue? Glass? Other?
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The other objects... how many? 1? This 2? 3? more?
Scissors? The cat's food bowl? Spoons? Forks? Knives? Other kitchenware? No to all (some of these were involved, but irrelevant)
Does it contain metal? Plastic? Wood? This Tissue? Glass? Other?
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A door? A table? A chair? Something you find in a kitchen? Something larger than bean? Than a book? Than a chair?
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A door? This, kind of, but not the door to the kitchen A table? A chair?
Something you find in a kitchen? Yes
Something larger than bean? Yes Than a book? Yes Than a chair? I would say not
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Posted on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 10:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sounds like the cupboard door. Right?

I guess you opened the cupboard, grabbed two food packages, closed the door and opened one of the packages. Did things take place in this order? Did you open the door once? Twice? Did anything relevant happen before you opened the door? After you opened it the first time? Before you opened the food package? After?
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Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - 7:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sounds like the cupboard door. Right? Right

I guess you opened the cupboard, grabbed two food packages, closed the door and opened one of the packages. Did things take place in this order? Yes, but something else happened as well
Did you open the door once? Twice? This
Did anything relevant happen before you opened the door? After you opened it the first time? Yes Before you opened the food package? And yes After?
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Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - 8:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did you realise you had grabbed two packages after closing the cupboard the first time? Did you open the cupboard again to put back the unused package? Was the cat fooled by the fact that you opened the cupboard twice (doesn't sound very convincing, I know...)?
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Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - 11:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did you realise you had grabbed two packages after closing the cupboard the first time? Did you open the cupboard again to put back the unused package? Was the cat fooled by the fact that you opened the cupboard twice (doesn't sound very convincing, I know...)? Yes to all...why didn't it sound convincing? :-)

***** SPOILER *****
My cat has learned where I keep the catfood, so when I open the cupboard door he knows it's feeding time. One time, though, I grabbed two sachets of cat food instead of one...when I opened the door to put the other one back, my cat came running back thinking I'd decided to feed him again. He was disappointed.

Thanks for playing...it was fairly simple in the end :-)
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Posted on Friday, March 21, 2008 - 1:03 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oh, right. I was stuck with the idea that you had put away the other sachets immediately, so I couldn't see how the cat could be fooled. Nice puzzle, anyway!
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Posted on Saturday, March 22, 2008 - 10:20 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks!

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