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Gourami (Gourami)
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Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 3:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

She saw that her boyfriend was wearing a Radiohead t-shirt and immediately dumped him, even though she had no strong feelings about the band and had never seen the shirt before.
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Was the t-shirt referring to the band Radiohead?
Was the boyfriend a fan of Radiohead? Is it relevant that it was Radiohead or could it have been another band?
Had she been expecting him to be wearing something else? Were they maybe attending a formal dinner or something and he showed up underdressed? Did she have a good readson to dump him? Did she suspect him of cheating on her?

Oh...everyone involved human/adult (you never know)? Anyone else involved than the couple? 1 other person? 2? more?
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Was there some graphic, image or picture on the t-shirt, and was that what caused her to dump him?

Did the t-shirt cause her to think something about him that she would not have thought otherwise? If so, was her belief correct? Did it cause her to be angry with him? Saddened? Disappointed?
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Enjay (Enjay)

Was the t-shirt referring to the band Radiohead? Yes.
Was the boyfriend a fan of Radiohead? No. Is it relevant that it was Radiohead or could it have been another band? The story could be changed so that it was a different band...
Had she been expecting him to be wearing something else? Nothing in particular. Were they maybe attending a formal dinner or something and he showed up underdressed? No, good idea though. Did she have a good readson to dump him? Yes. Did she suspect him of cheating on her? No.

Oh...everyone involved human/adult (you never know)? Yes. =) Anyone else involved than the couple? 1 other person? Yes, a bit. 2? more?

Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)

Was there some graphic, image or picture on the t-shirt, and was that what caused her to dump him? No.

Did the t-shirt cause her to think something about him that she would not have thought otherwise? Yes. If so, was her belief correct? Yes. Did it cause her to be angry with him? Yes. Saddened? Disappointed? Probably these too.
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Did the T shirt belong to him? To a friend of hers? Did she suspect that he had stolen it? Did he profess to disliking Radiohead, so that she dumped him for hypocrisy?

Did she suspect him of doing anything illegal? Were they strapped for cash, so that she was angry that he had bought it?

Did she want one herself?

Did the T-shirt feature various tour dates? Was it associated with any particular tour? Did it come from a rock festival? Perhaps it indicated that he had been at a festival or gig on, say, Valentine's day, when he had made an excuse not to take her out?

Did the shirt lead her, even indirectly, to think:

that he was interested in someone else?
that he was married?
that he was gay?
that he was a liar?
that he was untrustworthy?
that he was a hypocrite?
that he was a weirdo?
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Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 6:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Woodworm (Woodworm) Look at all the lovely questions!

Did the T shirt belong to him? Yes. To a friend of hers? Did she suspect that he had stolen it? No. Did he profess to disliking Radiohead, so that she dumped him for hypocrisy? lol Nope.

Did she suspect him of doing anything illegal? Yes. Were they strapped for cash, so that she was angry that he had bought it? No.

Did she want one herself? No.

Did the T-shirt feature various tour dates? No to all. Was it associated with any particular tour? Did it come from a rock festival? Perhaps it indicated that he had been at a festival or gig on, say, Valentine's day, when he had made an excuse not to take her out?

Did the shirt lead her, even indirectly, to think:

that he was interested in someone else?
that he was married?
that he was gay?
that he was a liar? This.
that he was untrustworthy? This.
that he was a hypocrite?
that he was a weirdo? And probably this.
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Is it relevant how he obtained the shirt? Where they were when she saw him in it? Is it relevant that she had never seen the shirt before? Did this tip her off that it was new, which led to her realising he had done something illegal?
If it had been a friend, rather than a boyfriend, could she have stoped seeing the friend for the same reason? If it had been her husband, could the t-shirt have led her to seek a divorce, or would that be going a bit far?

The other person who is a bit relevant: related to either member of the couple? A friend? Stanger?

Had the couple had a relevant conversation prior to this event? If so, about Radiohead? About bands in general? T-shirts? The slightly relevant person?

Did either of them have a relevant experience with Radiohead prior to this puzzle?
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Enjay (Enjay)

Is it relevant how he obtained the shirt? No.Where they were when she saw him in it? No. Is it relevant that she had never seen the shirt before? Yesish; if she had seen it before she would have dumped him before. Did this tip her off that it was new, which led to her realising he had done something illegal? Noish.
If it had been a friend, rather than a boyfriend, could she have stopped seeing the friend for the same reason? Yes, probably. If it had been her husband, could the t-shirt have led her to seek a divorce, or would that be going a bit far? Heh. It would at least lead to argument and accusation.

The other person who is a bit relevant: related to either member of the couple? A friend? This. Stanger?

Had the couple had a relevant conversation prior to this event? Yesish. If so, about Radiohead? About bands in general? T-shirts? The slightly relevant person? No to rest.

Did either of them have a relevant experience with Radiohead prior to this puzzle? Him, no. Her, slightly.
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Did she have reason to believe he had stolen it? Had he, in fact, stolen it? Was there anything unusual about it? A limited edition, or such? Some indication that somebody else had previously worn it? Was it some arty design that made it look bloodstained or something equally sinister?
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Did she have reason to believe he had stolen it? No. Had he, in fact, stolen it? No. Was there anything unusual about it? No.A limited edition, or such? Some indication that somebody else had previously worn it? Was it some arty design that made it look bloodstained or something equally sinister? No to rest.
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Anyhting to do with where the T-Shirt was made? Had he expressed a dislike of products made in Sweatshops and then contradicted this by buying the T-Shirt? If not this is there any element of hypocritical behaviour in his wearing the T-Shirt.

Any political beliefs relevant? environmental causes?
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The "slight" experience she had with radiohead before, is it relevant?

Was the t-shirt given to him by someone he wasn't supposed to see? By an ex-girlfriend? Does he have an ex who is a fan of Radiohead? did he buy it himself? Where he lives? Somewhere else? Somewhere he was not supposed to have been? Through the Internet? Relevant?
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Is there something special about the shirt? I.e. it's been signed by the band and is worth more than most people can afford? Had she seen the T-shirt in a store or on display somewhere?
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Was it something about the way he wore the shirt?
Had she ever seen anyone else wearing he same shirt?
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Anyhting to do with where the T-Shirt was made? No. Had he expressed a dislike of products made in Sweatshops and then contradicted this by buying the T-Shirt? No. If not this is there any element of hypocritical behaviour in his wearing the T-Shirt. No hypocrisy involved, I promise. =)

Any political beliefs relevant? environmental causes? Nope.

Ezhonok (Ezhonok)

The "slight" experience she had with radiohead before, is it relevant? Yes.

Was the t-shirt given to him by someone he wasn't supposed to see? No. By an ex-girlfriend? Does he have an ex who is a fan of Radiohead? Irr. did he buy it himself? Yes. Where he lives? Somewhere else? Somewhere he was not supposed to have been? Through the Internet? Relevant? Irr. to rest.

Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)

Is there something special about the shirt? No. I.e. it's been signed by the band and is worth more than most people can afford? Had she seen the T-shirt in a store or on display somewhere? Never seen it before.

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Was it something about the way he wore the shirt? No.
Had she ever seen anyone else wearing he same shirt? Irr.
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Had she previously slept with Thom Yorke? And she thought her new bloke was making an unfair allusion to this by wearing the shirt?
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Had she previously slept with Thom Yorke? And she thought her new bloke was making an unfair allusion to this by wearing the shirt? =) No.
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Near the beginning, it said that she suspected her of doing something illegal. Was the illegal thing...


assault? battery?
black market?
blackmail? extortion?
breach of contract?
burglary? trespass?
computer crime?
destroying property? vandalism? arson?
eco-crime? poacher? cruelty to animals?
forgery? counterfeiting?
fraud? cardsharper? embezzlement?
homicide? murder? manslaughter? accidental killing?
identity theft?
illegal gambling?
illegal possesion or trade of objects or substances (weapons, drugs, ...)?
inchoate offense?
kidnapping?
libel? menace?
negligence? failure to render assistance?
perjury?
sexual offenses? sexual assault?
smuggling?
stealing? pickpocketing? looting? robbery? larceny? piracy?
subversive activities? dissident? incitement of the people?
terrorism?
traffic offence?
treason? desertion? espionage?
unfair competition?
violation of intellectual property rights or copyrights?
violation of privacy? stalking? disrupting the peace? harassment?
war crime?
white-collar crime? evasion?
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Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 3:37 pm:

Near the beginning, it said that she suspected her him?of doing something illegal. Was the illegal thing...


assault? battery?
black market?
blackmail? extortion?
breach of contract?
burglary? This.trespass?
computer crime?
destroying property? vandalism? arson?
eco-crime? poacher? cruelty to animals?
forgery? counterfeiting?
fraud? cardsharper? embezzlement?
homicide? murder? manslaughter? accidental killing?
identity theft?
illegal gambling?
illegal possesion or trade of objects or substances (weapons, drugs, ...)?
inchoate offense?
kidnapping?
libel? menace?
negligence? failure to render assistance?
perjury?
sexual offenses? sexual assault?
smuggling?
stealing? pickpocketing? looting? robbery? larceny? piracy?
subversive activities? dissident? incitement of the people?
terrorism?
traffic offence?
treason? desertion? espionage?
unfair competition?
violation of intellectual property rights or copyrights?
violation of privacy? Thisish. stalking? And this, I'd say. disrupting the peace? harassment?
war crime?
white-collar crime? evasion?

Good questions.
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Her previous "slight experience" with Radiohead: does it involve
a particular song of theirs?
a particular concert? (concerts?)
a particular venue? (venues?)
some part of their reputation?
buying or listening to their music?

Was it a positive experience? a negative one? one she doesn't like being reminded of?


Because of the t-shirt, she suspected him of burglary, violation of privacy-ish, and stalking. Did she suspect that he'd done all of these things to the same person? (persons?)
To more than one person?
to a member of Radiohead?
to more than one member of Radiohead?
to someone (or several people?) connected with, but not in, Radiohead?
To herself?


Did she know about the t-shirt before she saw him wearing it? (frex, she had bought one like it herself, and when she saw him wearing it, she believed that he'd gone through her drawers?)

Was her suspicion about him correct?
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Her previous "slight experience" with Radiohead: does it involve
a particular song of theirs?
a particular concert? (concerts?)
a particular venue? (venues?)
some part of their reputation?
buying or listening to their music? This, but avoid an FA.

Was it a positive experience? This, or neutral. a negative one? one she doesn't like being reminded of?


Because of the t-shirt, she suspected him of burglary, violation of privacy-ish, and stalking. Did she suspect that he'd done all of these things to the same person? (persons?) Yesish. Let's just say yes.
To more than one person?
to a member of Radiohead?
to more than one member of Radiohead?
to someone (or several people?) connected with, but not in, Radiohead?
To herself? This.


Did she know about the t-shirt before she saw him wearing it? (frex, she had bought one like it herself, and when she saw him wearing it, she believed that he'd gone through her drawers?) No, but good thought.

Was her suspicion about him correct? Yes.
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Did someone, at some earlier time, break into her home and/or stalk her? And was this the creep of the puzzle, aka our hero? Had she ever talked about Radiohead to him? Did a burglar or stalker leave behind another piece of Radiohead merchandise?
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Did someone, at some earlier time, break into her home No and/or stalk her? Somewhat, keep thinking along those lines. And was this the creep of the puzzle, aka our hero? Yes.Had she ever talked about Radiohead to him? No. Did a burglar or stalker leave behind another piece of Radiohead merchandise? No.
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If "stalking" is not the best term to describe the crime in question, please answer the below questions as if I had used the right word

Did his wearing the shirt suggest that he knew she liked Radiohead? And she had never told him that so she realised he must have been stalking her? Had she known somebody had been stalking her, but not realised it was her boyfriend until she saw the shirt? Or did the shirt make her realise for the first time that she was being stalked?
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Along the lines of stalking:
was she receiving prank? or harassing? phone calls?
harassment rather than stalking?


Was her "previous experience" with Radiohead that the person doing the "somewhat" stalking had been listening to Radiohead and she could hear it?
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Enjay (Enjay)

If "stalking" is not the best term to describe the crime in question, please answer the below questions as if I had used the right word Gotcha.

Did his wearing the shirt suggest that he knew she liked Radiohead? Yesish. And she had never told him that so she realised he must have been stalking her? Yesish. Had she known somebody had been stalking her, but not realised it was her boyfriend until she saw the shirt? Yes, replacing "stalking" with "theft". Or did the shirt make her realise for the first time that she was being stalked?

Rabrab (Rabrab)

Along the lines of stalking:
was she receiving prank? or harassing? phone calls?
harassment rather than stalking? No to all. Remember, the main crime committed was theft.


Was her "previous experience" with Radiohead that the person doing the "somewhat" stalking had been listening to Radiohead and she could hear it? No.
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Had he stolen something from her? Something connected to Radiohead? A CD?
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had he stolen the shirt from her?
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Had he stolen something from her? Yes.Something connected to Radiohead? A CD? Yesish.

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had he stolen the shirt from her? No.
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Had she previously asked him whether he took the thing? And he replied "No, I don't even like Radiohead"? And the shirt proved he had been lying?

Was it a vinyl record? A cassette? A music DVD?
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Had she previously asked him whether he took the thing? And he replied "No, I don't even like Radiohead"? And the shirt proved he had been lying? No.

Was it a vinyl record? A cassette? A music DVD? He did steal a CD. There's just more to it than that.
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Did he break the CD? Did he do something that was embarassing to her with the CD?
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Did he break the CD? Did he do something that was embarassing to her with the CD? No.
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Did the shirt make it clear to her beyond doubt that he had stolen the CD? Was the CD 'Hail To The Thief'?

In order to acquire the shirt, did he send off for it using some sort of coupon on the CD?
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Did he wear the shirt with an ulterior motive? if so: an attempt to impress her? communicate an idea/thought/concept? provoke the reaction it obtained?

the friend = his friend? her friend?


Was the stolen CD a Radiohead CD?
Did he steal more than a CD?

Were all his crimes against her?
Were any of his crimes against the friend?
Were any of his crimes against strangers?
Had he committed other crimes before? after? relevent?

Had he been invited into her home when he committed the thievery?
Had he been in her home before? some time between the theft and the wearing of the shirt?

She was aware of the theft before she saw him in the shirt?
She'd previously formulated suspicions/had made an accusation against another person regarding the theft? if so: the friend?

The relevent conversation she had had with him occured before the theft? after the theft but before the wearing of the shirt? regarded the theft?
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As I said on my other puzzles, very sorry for the long absence.
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Did the shirt make it clear to her beyond doubt that he had stolen the CD? Yes, in a roundabout way. Was the CD 'Hail To The Thief'? Irr.

In order to acquire the shirt, did he send off for it using some sort of coupon on the CD? No. Good thought!

Liquizt (Liquizt)

Did he wear the shirt with an ulterior motive? YES. if so: an attempt to impress her? Yes. communicate an idea/thought/concept? Yesish. provoke the reaction it obtained? No.

the friend = his friend? her friend? This.


Was the stolen CD a Radiohead CD? Yes.
Did he steal more than a CD? Yes.
Were all his crimes against her? Yes...
Were any of his crimes against the friend? And yesish.
Were any of his crimes against strangers? No.
Had he committed other crimes before? after? relevent? Irr.

Had he been invited into her home when he committed the thievery? No.
Had he been in her home before? some time between the theft and the wearing of the shirt? No, possible FA.

She was aware of the theft before she saw him in the shirt? Yes.
She'd previously formulated suspicions/had made an accusation against another person regarding the theft? No, irr. if so: the friend?

The relevent conversation she had had with him occured before the theft? after the theft but before the wearing of the shirt? This.regarded the theft? No.
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Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 4:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he think wearing the shirt would give him away as a thief?
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Is it at all relevant what exactly is on the shirt? Or just that it's a shirt about Radiohead? Or not even this?

Was he wearing the shirt when he committed the theft? These other two periphery crimes you mentioned, invasion of privacy and stalking, were they committed in concurrence with - and because of - the theft? (e.g he invaded her privacy by entering her home, and had stalked her to find out where she lived) Or should we find out more about these crimes?

Was the relevant conversation that they had about the theft? About the CD? About the shirt?

You said that she hadn't seen the shirt before - did she, however, know of its existence, even if she'd never seen it?
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Had she since told all her friends that she disliked Radiohead, or never implied to anyone else that she liked them, so the only way he would believe that she liked the band was by seeing her CD somehow?
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Did she say something like "if you find out my favourite band i will love you forever," so he broke into her house and found her collection of radiohead, thus betraying himself as a wierdo stalker.?
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Martinfg (Martinfg)

Did he think wearing the shirt would give him away as a thief? No.

Logician (Logician)

Is it at all relevant what exactly is on the shirt? No.Or just that it's a shirt about Radiohead? This. Or not even this?

Was he wearing the shirt when he committed the theft? No. These other two periphery crimes you mentioned, invasion of privacy and stalking, were they committed in concurrence with - and because of - the theft? Yes.(e.g he invaded her privacy by entering her home, and had stalked her to find out where she lived)But not this. Or should we find out more about these crimes? Not necessarily.

Was the relevant conversation that they had about the theft? About the CD? About the shirt? No to all.

You said that she hadn't seen the shirt before - did she, however, know of its existence, even if she'd never seen it? No.

Biograd (Biograd)

Had she since told all her friends that she disliked Radiohead, or never implied to anyone else that she liked them, so the only way he would believe that she liked the band was by seeing her CD (FA here) somehow? Yope.

Martinfg (Martinfg)

Did she say something like "if you find out my favourite band i will love you forever," so he broke into her house and found her collection of radiohead, thus betraying himself as a wierdo stalker.? No, and as a sort of recap...
He didn't enter her house, and she doesn't own any Radiohead.
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Posted on Friday, August 29, 2008 - 8:36 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he steal a CD player that had the radiohead CD in it at the time?
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Did he steal a CD player that had the radiohead CD in it at the time? Not exactly, but keep thinking along these lines.
Hint below if you want it.
How they became boyfriend and girlfriend in the first place is relevant, and related to his crime.
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Did he retreive something stolen from her?
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Did he retreive something stolen from her? Unsure of your meaning...you mean, did he give back what he stole? No.
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Did she have something stolen before they met?
Is his proffession relevant?
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Did she have something stolen before they met? Yes indeed.
Is his proffession relevant? No.
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Did he steal a car?
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No. (I suppose it could be, for all relevant purposes...)
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So he stole something that the cd was in?
Was the t-shirt also in it?
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There's lots of clues suggesting this so I don't know how it has been overlooked this long (would be suprised if this is wrong :P);
Did the Radiohead CD belong to her friend? who had let her borrow it? was encouraging her to listen to it? had mistakenly left it at her place?
And then the boyfriend stole the CD? believing it to belong to his girlfriend? and revealed himself as the thief by wearing the Radiohead t-shirt? believing for some reason this would not reveal him as the thief?
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Martinfg (Martinfg)

So he stole something that the cd was in? YES.
Was the t-shirt also in it? No.

Liquizt (Liquizt)

There's lots of clues suggesting this so I don't know how it has been overlooked this long (would be suprised if this is wrong :P);
Did the Radiohead CD belong to her friend? Yes. who had let her borrow it? was encouraging her to listen to it? Yes, something like this. had mistakenly left it at her place?
And then the boyfriend stole the CD? Yes!believing it to belong to his girlfriend? and revealed himself as the thief by wearing the Radiohead t-shirt? YES! Close enough for a spoiler. believing for some reason this would not reveal him as the thief?

SPOILER***********************

Nice thinking and putting stuff together, Liquizt. I was getting so tired of this one...

Let's say the guy works with her. He steals her purse before even meeting her, goes through all her stuff, and finds out her interests. Then he starts talking to her, and, amazingly, has a tremendous amount in common with her. He likes the same music, goes to the same places, has seen the same movies (because, of course, there were ticket stubs in the purse), etc. So she starts dating him.
One day he wears a Radiohead t-shirt, which surprises her because, although they have so much in common, she doesn't really like the band at all. Then she remembers. In the bag that was stolen, she had been carrying a friend's collection of Radiohead (or some had been on her iPod), along with artifacts from everything else he has talked about with her. She realizes that he stole her bag to get to know her, and dumps him immediately.

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