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Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
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Posted on Saturday, August 16, 2008 - 7:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Looking up, Bob saw a man at the window. This man was not acquainted with Bob, nor was he engaged in any activity that could be viewed as threatening. Yet, Bob was immediately filled with horror and dread. Why?
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Was Bob inside a building? Was Bob acquainted with the man (if not vice versa)? Is the name Bob relevant? Is he a hamster? adult? male?

Was it a justifiable horror/dread (such as a reasonable fear of imminent death)? Or something more akin to a phobia?

True story? Was the other man a window-cleaner?

Wild guess: would it be more accurate to call him Heinrich?
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Was it Bob's bedroom window (hence, was the man a peeping Tom)?

Was Bob on a high floor? Had the man fallen from a plane or something of that nature?
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Woodworm:
Was Bob inside a building? No Was Bob acquainted with the man (if not vice versa)? No Is the name Bob relevant? No Is he a hamster? Lol, no adult? Yes male? Yes

Was it a justifiable horror/dread Yes (such as a reasonable fear of imminent death?) Not this though Or something more akin to a phobia? No

True story? True story with some embellishment Was the other man a window-cleaner? No

Wild guess: would it be more accurate to call him Heinrich? No. What's that story about?

Howardwoman:
Was it Bob's bedroom window (hence, was the man a peeping Tom)? No

Was Bob on a high floor? No Had the man fallen from a plane or something of that nature? No
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Was the man at the window inside a building? Vehicle? Structure of some kind? Was Bob inside a vehicle? Structure?

Did the man see Bob? If so, was Bob's horror due to this? Or due to the fact that the man might see him? Is it relevant what Bob was doing at the time? Something illegal? Something he didn't want to be seen doing?

Is there something special about this particular man that filled Bob with dread? Or would any man there have had the same effect? Relevant that it was a man and not a woman?
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Was the man at the window inside a building? Yes Vehicle? No Structure of some kind? No Was Bob inside a vehicle? No Structure? No

Did the man see Bob? No If so, was Bob's horror due to this? So, no Or due to the fact that the man might see him? No Is it relevant what Bob was doing at the time? No Something illegal? No Something he didn't want to be seen doing? No

Is there something special about this particular man that filled Bob with dread? No Or would any man there have had the same effect? Yes Relevant that it was a man and not a woman? Gender irrel
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Was Bob filled with dread and horror for himself? or on behalf of the man? could he see thatthe mand was doing something? going to do something? or than something was going to happen to him?

Relevant what type of building the man was in? is there are third party involved in this puzzle? is the man's occupation relevant? Bobs?

Is the man's clothing relevant?
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Would Bob have expected the building to be vacant? the room where the man was?

Is the supernatural relevant? (for example, Bob thought the place was haunted by ghosts)
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Were there other buildings around?
Would Bob have been horrified in the same way when the man was at the window of another building? at a different window of the same building? at a door? in a doorway? outside the building?
or, if there was not a man but a cat at the window?
Did Bob expect to be the only human being in this area? the only one who survived?
Is the building a prison?
Is the building on the other side of a border?
Did Bob come across this man before?
Did Bob fear to die? to suffer physical harm? emotional harm? to be punished? ousted? financially ruined? that all he had achieved so far would become meaningless?
Wild guess: Bob's job is to demolish this house, and in particular, to make sure that nobody is left in the building before demolition .. and it is one second before the ignition when he sees the man?
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Kaori:
Was Bob filled with dread and horror for himself? Yes or on behalf of the man? No could he see that the man was doing something? He saw the man just standing there going to do something? No or than something was going to happen to him? No

Relevant what type of building the man was in? Yes is there are third party involved in this puzzle? Yes is the man's occupation relevant? No Bobs? Yope.. not really

Is the man's clothing relevant? No

Biograd:
Would Bob have expected the building to be vacant? No the room where the man was? No

Is the supernatural relevant? (for example, Bob thought the place was haunted by ghosts) No

Sundowner:
Were there other buildings around? Irrel
Would Bob have been horrified in the same way when the man was at the window of another building? No at a different window of the same building? Perhaps at a door? No in a doorway? No outside the building? No
or, if there was not a man but a cat at the window? He would have been horrified too, yes
Did Bob expect to be the only human being in this area? No the only one who survived? No
Is the building a prison? No
Is the building on the other side of a border? No
Did Bob come across this man before? No
Did Bob fear to die? No to suffer physical harm? No emotional harm? Possible to be punished? Kind of ousted? Yesish to yope financially ruined? Not really that all he had achieved so far would become meaningless? Yesish
Wild guess: Bob's job is to demolish this house, and in particular, to make sure that nobody is left in the building before demolition .. and it is one second before the ignition when he sees the man? No, but nice one!
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Is the building a hospital? a house?
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Is the building a hospital? a house? No to both
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So Bob expected someone to be in the room , but seeing someone there filled him with dread, is this correct?
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So Bob expected someone to be in the room , He didn't really have any expectations either way but seeing someone there filled him with dread, This is correct though is this correct?
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Sorry its just that when biograd asked if Bob expected the room to be vacant you said NO,

Is the building a residential building?
A business?
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Sorry its just that when biograd asked if Bob expected the room to be vacant you said NO, Yup, let's say that if we were to ask Bob before he saw the man whether or not he thought there was someone there, he would respond with a nonchalant "I don't know."

Is the building a residential building? Noish
A business? Noish to yope
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Had Bob hoped at some point to be in the room himself? Had he ever been in there?


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if we were to ask Bob before he saw the man whether or not he thought there was someone there, he would respond with a nonchalant "I don't know."


Does this mean that right up until he saw the man there, he was not aware that seeing a person would cause him such dread? Did something change which meant that a man in the room would fill him with dread? Did he suddenly realise something?
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Had Bob hoped at some point to be in the room himself? No Had he ever been in there? No, but...

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if we were to ask Bob before he saw the man whether or not he thought there was someone there, he would respond with a nonchalant "I don't know."

Does this mean that right up until he saw the man there, he was not aware that seeing a person would cause him such dread? Incorrect Did something change which meant that a man in the room would fill him with dread? No Did he suddenly realise something? Yes
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Was bob intending to enter the building? the room?
Is the time of day relevant? if so morning? afternoon? evening? night?
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Was bob intending to enter the building? Yes, but careful of FA the room? No
Is the time of day relevant? Not really if so morning? afternoon? Let's say afternoon evening? night?
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Was the man in the building in danger?
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Was the man in the building in danger? No
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Had Bob been in the room before? had he been in the building before?
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Was it the mans presence? or possible actions? in the room that caused dread
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Was the building residential? Flats? Hotel? Is any criminal activity relevant? Is it relevant that the man was by the window, other than because it would have been harder for Bob to see him if he weren't?
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Martin:
Had Bob been in the room before? No had he been in the building before? Yes
Was it the mans presence? No or possible actions? No in the room that caused dread

Enjay:
Was the building residential? Flats? Hotel? This Is any criminal activity relevant? No..ish Is it relevant that the man was by the window, other than because it would have been harder for Bob to see him if he weren't? Indeed, it's relevant!
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can we call the man harry?

if someone had told bob that harry was in the room would bob still be filled with dread?
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can we call the man harry? Sure!

if someone had told bob that harry was in the room would bob still be filled with dread? No
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if bob had seen a dog at the window would he have the same reaction?

if someone else had been with bob at the time and seen hary would they too be filled with dread?

is anyone else involved?
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if bob had seen a dog at the window would he have the same reaction? Yes

if someone else had been with bob at the time and seen hary would they too be filled with dread? No, very unlikely.

is anyone else involved? Yes
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Relevant what floor Harry was on? Which room he was in? Had Bob stayed in the hotel? Worked there? Was he currently a guest there?

Was Bob right to be filled with dread? Or is a misunderstanding involved?
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Others involved 1? more han 1? more than 5? more than 10?
Did Bob know the other/s involved? Did Harry?
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Was the window intact (i.e. not broken, missing, etc)? Was there a reflection visible in the window? If so, was there anything unusual about it? Did the man appear distorted in any matter when viewed through the window?

The other person involved--male? female? At the moment Harry saw the man in the window, was he/she in the building? in the room? visible to Harry (assuming he was looking in the right direction)?
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Enjay:
Relevant what floor Harry was on? No Which room he was in? No Had Bob stayed in the hotel? Yes Worked there? Was he currently a guest there? Yes

Was Bob right to be filled with dread? Yes Or is a misunderstanding involved? No...ish

Martin:
Others involved 1? more han 1? About 2 to 3 more than 5? more than 10?
Did Bob know the other/s involved? Yope Did Harry? No

Biograd:
Was the window intact (i.e. not broken, missing, etc)? Yes Was there a reflection visible in the window? No If so, was there anything unusual about it? No Did the man appear distorted in any matter when viewed through the window? No

The other person involved--male? female? Irrel. Let's just say they were male At the moment Harry I assume you mean Bob? =) saw the man in the window, was he/she in the building? Irrel in the room? No visible to Harry (assuming he was looking in the right direction)? Irrel
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If Bob had seen Harry at a different window in the hotel would he still be filled with dread?
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If Bob had seen Harry at a different window in the hotel would he still be filled with dread? Yope. Possibly.
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Is there something relevant about the room we need to find out?
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Is there something relevant about the room we need to find out? Yope to yesish!
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Were the other relevant parties in the room? had they been in the room?

Did Bob know which particular room the man was in?
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Were the other relevant parties in the room? No had they been in the room? No

Did Bob know which particular room the man was in? No with a tiny ish. Careful of FA though
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Did the room have a specific quality we have to find out?
But as I remember, the man could have been at any window .. so did any room in the hotel have this quality? any room with a window on this side of the building?
Could the location from where Bob sees Harry described as: street? square? park? beach? yard? cemetery?
Did Bob think somebody deceived him? was lying to him? played tricks on him?
Is Bob's profession relevant?
Is the profession of the other 2-3 men relevant? do they work at the hotel? are they guests in the hotel?
Were they (or some of them) together with Bob when he saw Harry?
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Did the room have a specific quality we have to find out? Yope
But as I remember, the man could have been at any window .. so did any room in the hotel have this quality? Yesish any room with a window on this side of the building? This is closer
Could the location from where Bob sees Harry described as: street? This, but irrel square? park? beach? yard? cemetery?
Did Bob think somebody deceived him? was lying to him? played tricks on him? Yes to all
Is Bob's profession relevant? Noish
Is the profession of the other 2-3 men relevant? Yesish do they work at the hotel? Yope, bit of an FA are they guests in the hotel? No
Were they (or some of them) together with Bob when he saw Harry? No
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Oh, I missed this:
But as I remember, the man could have been at any window.. Not exactly. It was any hotel room!
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If Bob had seen harry at a window on the other side of the hotel would he have still been filled with dread?
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If Bob had seen harry at a window on the other side of the hotel would he have still been filled with dread? He might!
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Did Bob know any of the other men involved?
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Did Bob know any of the other men involved? Yes
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Were the others involved related to him? his friends? rivals?
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Were the others involved related to him? Yope his friends? rivals? No to both
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Did Harry know the other men involved?
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Did Harry know the other men involved? No and irrel
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I'm assuming that the window was shut and Bob saw Harry through a glass pane. Is this assumption correct? Is it essential to the riddle itself?

What I'm imagining is that on seeing Harry through the pane, Bob realised that the windows of the hotel were not tinted or mirrored from the outside as he earlier thought. Which means that anyone could have seen him doing (???) from the outside... Brrr

Ignore if this is balderdash :D

Hmm, is a crime involved?
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I'm assuming that the window was shut and Bob saw Harry through a glass pane. Yup! Is this assumption correct? Yes Is it essential to the riddle itself? Very much so

What I'm imagining is that on seeing Harry through the pane, Bob realised that the windows of the hotel were not tinted or mirrored from the outside as he earlier thought. Yes!! Which means that anyone could have seen him doing (???) from the outside... Brrr Yes!(ish) What was he doing and why?

Ignore if this is balderdash :D Not at all!! =)

Hmm, is a crime involved? No..ish
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Was he having an affair?
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Okay so when he was doing w/e he was doing:

Was he alone in the room? Or were the other 2-3 individuals with him inside the room at the time?

Was what he was doing objectionable? illegal? illegal only in some places? sexual? deceitful? immoral? gambling / betting oriented? embarassing?

Was he nude at the time?
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Afterthought:

Was it ritualistic? religious? racist? extremist? conspiracies involved?
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Was he having an affair? No

Okay so when he was doing w/e he was doing:

Was he alone in the room? Yes Or were the other 2-3 individuals with him inside the room at the time? No

Was what he was doing objectionable? Yesish illegal? Yope illegal only in some places? I guess it's illegal in most, but.. sexual? Yesish deceitful? immoral? gambling / betting oriented? embarassing? And this

Was he nude at the time? Yes

Afterthought:

Was it ritualistic? religious? racist? extremist? conspiracies involved? No to all
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I don't want to get too raunchy with a list of objectionabishly sexualish things but I think the clues might point to some "self-satisfying" while watching something "naughty" on television. If this is wrong, err, now I'm embarassed :S
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Was he more embarassed than horrified?
Had he done this before?
Was he watching tv?
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Noobdogg:
I don't want to get too raunchy with a list of objectionabishly sexualish things but I think the clues might point to some "self-satisfying" while watching something "naughty" on television. Nope =) If this is wrong, err, now I'm embarassed :S Lol!

Martin:
Was he more embarassed than horrified? Hmm, that's hard to say. Perhaps he felt both in equal measure.
Had he done this before? Well I wouldn't know for sure, but I doubt it!
Was he watching tv? No
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So he was nude?
Alone?
Doing something objectonable?
If the police had seen him would they arrest him?
If his wife had seen him would she leave him?
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So he was nude? Yes
Alone? Yes
Doing something objectonable? Yes(ish)-a little ish because he was unaware that he could be seen
If the police had seen him would they arrest him? Yes, but...
If his wife had seen him would she leave him? Probably not. She would most likely be shocked at first, but might find it amusing later.
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Could he have done the same act with his clothes on?
Was he exercising?
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Could he have done the same act with his clothes on? Yes, technically speaking
Was he exercising? No
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Was he embarassed purely because he thought he had been seen naked?

Or was he embarassed because of what he was doing?
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So the only 'illegalish' thing he was doing was exhibitionism? And it was only 'sexualish' coz he was nude?

Was he playing a game? Was he using a computer or watching a television? Was he on the telephone? (I'm trying to figure out where these other 2 or 3 people come in)

Maybe he was playing online strip poker :-S If he wasn't I'm embarassed again and I shall consider refraining from guessing altogether! (Maybe I can blackmail you into changing the solution to my proposition mwahhaahahahaaa)
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Was there someone in particular that he thought had seen him? If so, the police? A friend? Reletive? Spouse? Are the people who he now realises could have seen him the other relevant people?
Had there been someone outside when he was doing the act, and he had thought at the time that they would be unable to see him? Or is he just worried that somebody (nobody in particular) could have come along and seen him?
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Martin:
Was he embarassed purely because he thought he had been seen naked? No

Or was he embarassed because of what he was doing? Yes

It was more than just embarrassment though.

Noobdogg:
So the only 'illegalish' thing he was doing was exhibitionism? Yes And it was only 'sexualish' coz he was nude? Not really

Was he playing a game? No Was he using a computer or watching a television? No Was he on the telephone? No (I'm trying to figure out where these other 2 or 3 people come in)

Maybe he was playing online strip poker :-S If he wasn't I'm embarassed again and I shall consider refraining from guessing altogether! Alas, he wasn't! (Maybe I can blackmail you into changing the solution to my proposition mwahhaahahahaaa) Gasp! This is no way to behave in the lateral puzzles forum! I am appalled! =P

Enjay:
Was there someone in particular that he thought had seen him? Yes If so, the police? No A friend? Reletive? Spouse? No to all Are the people who he now realises could have seen him the other relevant people? Yope, FA!
Had there been someone outside when he was doing the act, and he had thought at the time that they would be unable to see him? Yes Or is he just worried that somebody (nobody in particular) could have come along and seen him? No
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So: Bob did something naked in a hotel room?
He knew? Or thought? That somebody was outside? Looking up at the window?
Did he think at the time that he could be seen? Did he think that he could be seen, but what he was doing wouldn't be clear? Maybe he thought that he could only be seen from the waist up?
Later, he was outside the hotel?
And saw somebody at the window?
And realised that it would have been possible to have seen him?
Was he now certain that he had been seen in the act? Did he just think that he might have been?
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So: Bob did something naked in a hotel room? Yes
He knew? Yes Or thought? That somebody was outside? Yes Looking up at the window? Yes
Did he think at the time that he could be seen? No Did he think that he could be seen, but what he was doing wouldn't be clear? No Maybe he thought that he could only be seen from the waist up? No
Later, he was outside the hotel? Yes
And saw somebody at the window? Yes, although not at the exact same window, of course.
And realised that it would have been possible to have seen him? Yes
Was he now certain that he had been seen in the act? Yes Did he just think that he might have been? He was pretty certain.
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Did he do the act purely because he was in a hotel?

Is it something he did regularly?

Is it considered a normal act to carry out behind closed doors?
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Did he do the act purely because he was in a hotel? No

Is it something he did regularly? No

Is it considered a normal act to carry out behind closed doors? Possibly, although not so much in this context
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Was there anyone else in the room when Bob did what he did?

The people that Bob realised saw what he did - were they out on the street looking up? or dangling outside (window cleaners perhaps)

Was he dancing? exercising? flashing people for fun though he thought they couldn't see him? cross-dressing? Was it something you might do if you thought no-one was watching?

Would he have felt cheated because the other relevant men told him the window was tinted? or maybe on seeing him they acted as if they couldn't, deceiving Bob into continuing his antics?
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Was there anyone else in the room when Bob did what he did? No

The people that Bob realised saw what he did - were they out on the street looking up? Yes; small FA or dangling outside (window cleaners perhaps)No

Was he dancing? Kind of exercising? Not really flashing people for fun though he thought they couldn't see him? YesISH cross-dressing? No Was it something you might do if you thought no-one was watching? No

Would he have felt cheated because the other relevant men told him the window was tinted? Yes, he was told it was a one-way mirror. or maybe on seeing him they acted as if they couldn't, Yes deceiving Bob into continuing his antics? Yes, although this was not the intention.

There's a little FA in the last 2 questions!
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Weird feeling - were they blind? Bob was certain they had 'seen' him but they in fact hadn't?

Was he stripping?
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Weird feeling - were they blind? No Bob was certain they had 'seen' him but they in fact hadn't? No

Was he stripping? No, he was already nude before he began.
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OK, so it's fair to say that we can dismiss Harry as irrelevant, as he simply provides Bob with the evidence that the window is not a one-way job?

Would it be better to focus on the other males? Some other people told Bob that hotel windows were one-way (ie you can see out but not in)? And he then performed Act Z at some unspecified time before the Harry-seeing day, yes?

Do we really need to know exactly what Act Z is? Or would it work for, say, naked noodle-making? Did he speak while performing Act Z? Was someone outside when he performed it (I assume so)? Is it relevant to find out who? Was it the man/men who led him to believe the lie about one-way hotel windows?

Is this a practical joke? Is someone trying to incriminate Bob in some way? When the people saw Bob naked, were they:

satisfied that their plan had worked?
snapping photos to send to the papers?
amused?
shocked/horrified?
tempted to call the police?

Were they, in fact, the police?

On seeing him naked, they didn't tell Bob, I assume (as he only realised his mistake much later, in albatross fashion)? Did they simply move on? Or did they perform any other relevant action?
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OK, so it's fair to say that we can dismiss Harry as irrelevant, as he simply provides Bob with the evidence that the window is not a one-way job? Yes

Would it be better to focus on the other males? Much better! Some other people told Bob that hotel windows were one-way (ie you can see out but not in)? Yes And he then performed Act Z at some unspecified time before the Harry-seeing day, yes? It was the same day, in fact, but it doesn't make a difference.

Do we really need to know exactly what Act Z is? So far it has been found that he did some kind of naked, lewd dance, which is close enough. There's just one important element missing though! Or would it work for, say, naked noodle-making? Not in the same way Did he speak while performing Act Z? No Was someone outside when he performed it (I assume so)? Yes Is it relevant to find out who? Very Was it the man/men who led him to believe the lie about one-way hotel windows? No

Is this a practical joke? Yes, but careful of FA Is someone trying to incriminate Bob in some way? Not really When the people saw Bob naked, were they:

satisfied that their plan had worked? No
snapping photos to send to the papers? No
amused? Possibly
shocked/horrified? Possibly
tempted to call the police? Maybe, irrel

Were they, in fact, the police? No

On seeing him naked, they didn't tell Bob, I assume (as he only realised his mistake much later, in albatross fashion)? Correct Did they simply move on? Yes Or did they perform any other relevant action? No

There is a small FA in the second half of the post.
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So the small FA: is this the assumption that there is more than one person seeing Bob perform the lewd act? So the person who sees him do the lewd act is:

his wife?
his girlfriend?
his mother?
the vicar?
a local dignitary?
his boss?
the postman?
Jehova's Witnesses?
his children?
a rabbi?
carol singers?

Does he perform some sort of gesture during the dance? Does he mouth something directed at a person or persons?

How many pranksters do we have in all: 1? 2? 3? 4? Are the pranksters watching the spectacle from an unseen vantage point?
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A little confused...were there two separate occasions when Bob was seen through the window? Once when the people watching pretended to be unable to see him, and once when the relevant people saw him naked? Or are they both the same time?

Were the people who saw him naked different from the people who told him the windows were one-way? Were the people/person who told him this playing a joke on him?

Was he doing the dance purely for the thrill of knowing nobody could see him? Is it relevant exactly why he was doing it?
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Woodworm:
So the small FA: is this the assumption that there is more than one person seeing Bob perform the lewd act? Correct So the person who sees him do the lewd act is:

his wife?
his girlfriend?
his mother?
the vicar?
a local dignitary?
his boss? This
the postman?
Jehova's Witnesses?
his children?
a rabbi?
carol singers?

Does he perform some sort of gesture during the dance? Just general rude, sexual ones. Does he mouth something directed at a person or persons? No

How many pranksters do we have in all: 1? Yes 2? 3? 4? Are the pranksters watching the spectacle from an unseen vantage point? No

Enjay:
A little confused...were there two separate occasions when Bob was seen through the window? Once when the people watching pretended to be unable to see him, and once when the relevant people saw him naked? Or are they both the same time?
Just once. (See above)

Were the people who saw him naked different from the people who told him the windows were one-way? Yes Were the people/person who told him this playing a joke on him? Yes

Was he doing the dance purely for the thrill of knowing nobody could see him? See above; he directed it to his boss, and it thrilled him as he thought his boss was unable to see him. Is it relevant exactly why he was doing it?

I think all the main bits have been solved now! Time for the:

*************************SPOILER**********************
Bob went out of town to attend a business meeting. After checking into the hotel, he discovered an enormous window in the bathroom, looking out onto the street below. Later, while going down in the elevator, he struck up a conversation with a bellboy, and mentioned the window.
"Just imagine what would happen if I forgot to draw the curtains during my bath!" he joked. The bellboy, feeling cheeky, told him that it wouldn't matter; that the window was one way and so as long as it was day, no one on the street would be able to look in.
Thus, when Bob was having his shower the next morning, he decided to stand at the window, in the buff, for the thrill of it. As luck would have it, his boss was passing just below! Bob had never liked his boss, so he broke into an impromptu dance, complete with hand gestures and hip-thrusting. Appalled, his boss turned away in disgust and hurried on down the street, but since he did not react openly to Bob's actions, Bob remained blissfully unaware of the fact that he was far from invisible.
It was only later on in the day, when Bob himself was walking down the street and chanced to glance up at Harry (who was clothed, by the way), that the awful truth dawned on him.


And that's it! Thanks everyone!! =)
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That's funny!:D I'm sorry i missed the puzzle... How bout some more?
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Thanks! I'll come up with more soon! =)

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