| Author | Message | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3614 Registered: 8-2001 |
Only a Chinese- American could make a certain joke. If anyone else made it, it would make no sense. How come?? | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2093 Registered: 8-2006 |
ABC? American-Born Chinese? If not, could the ABC (going to call it that instead of Chinese-American) only tel it because of the punchline? Was it a joke about himself/herself? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3617 Registered: 8-2001 |
Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig) New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 2093 Registered: 8-2006 Posted on Monday, August 18, 2008 - 8:55 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) ABC?The joke does not involve the phrase 'ABC' American-Born Chinese? The joke works a little better if the maker (call him ''Lloyd Wong') was born in China, but it could also work if he was born in the USA If not, could the ABC (going to call it that instead of Chinese-American) only tel it because of the punchline? yes Was it a joke about himself/herself? yes | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 263 Registered: 5-2003 |
Well, that last puzzle of yours has taught me to always ask whether other people are involved, so: Are other people besides Wong relevant to the joke (other than the listeners)? For example, is it about his friends, family, a group? Is the specific subject of the joke relevant? An in-joke of any sort? Is the joke told in Chinese? English? Is a knowledge of either or both languages required (for example, a pun)? Is the joke translatable? Do we need to work out what the joke itself is? If so, is it: Dirty? Ethnic? True story? A riddle? Assuming it is told by Wong, would the joke be comprehensible: Only to his friends or family? Only to other Chinese-Americans? To any Americans? To citizens of a different country? Would it be offensive to any of the above? Is the joke about Chinese-Americans? China? America? Both? Does it take the form of a story told by a Chinese-American? Does it focus on Chinese-American culture? Or culture shock? I am reminded of the following joke I read in an Isaac Asimov book: Bob's jokes always use the names Cohen and Levy. When someone objects, he changes the names to Chinese, and the joke starts, "Chow Yun Fat and Yao Ming were going to Chow Yun Fat's nephew's Bar Mitzvah..." Is the joke in any way similar? For example, does it start "When I was growing up in Beijing..." | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3620 Registered: 8-2001 |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo) New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 263 Registered: 5-2003 Posted on Monday, August 18, 2008 - 9:52 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Well, that last puzzle of yours has taught me to always ask whether other people are involved Good idea!!, so: Are other people besides Wong relevant to the joke (other than the listeners)? yes For example, is it about his friends{no}, family, no a group yesish? Is the specific subject of the joke relevant yes? An in-joke of any sortyope? Is the joke told in Chinese?probably but not necessarily not English?probably but not necessarily Is a knowledge of either or both languages required (for example, a pun)? no Is the joke translatable? yes Do we need to work out what the joke itself is? yesIf so, is it: Dirty? no Ethnic? no True story? no A riddle? no Assuming it is told by Wong, would the joke be comprehensible: Only to his friends or family? no Only to other Chinese-Americans? no To any Americans? To many, certainly To citizens of a different country? possibly Would it be offensive to any of the above? No--there's virtually no way this joke could offend anyone Is the joke about Chinese-Americans? noish China? yope America? yope Both? yesish Does it take the form of a story told by a Chinese-American?yope or noish Does it focus on Chinese-American culture? no Or culture shock? no I am reminded of the following joke I read in an Isaac Asimov book: Bob's jokes always use the names Cohen and Levy. When someone objects, he changes the names to Chinese, and the joke starts, "Chow Yun Fat and Yao Ming were going to Chow Yun Fat's nephew's Bar Mitzvah..." Nothing like that Is the joke in any way similar? no For example, does it start "When I was growing up in Beijing..." no | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 281 Registered: 5-2003 |
Is the joke about people? Animals? Technology? History? Is it brief, or in story form? Are the listeners relevant? For example, are they Wong's coworkers? Could the joke be changed to fit a different culture (as in the Isaac Asimov joke above)? If so, could it then be told comprehensibly by a non-Chinese-American? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3630 Registered: 8-2001 |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo) New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 281 Registered: 5-2003 Posted on Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 3:29 pm: Is the joke about people? Animals? Technology? History? Is it brief, or in story form? the former Are the listeners relevant? yes For example, are they Wong's coworkers? very unlikely Could the joke be changed to fit a different culture (as in the Isaac Asimov joke above)? noIf so, could it then be told comprehensibly by a non-Chinese-American? no | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2434 Registered: 2-2001 |
It has to be a Chinese-American because only such a person could appreciate the cultural differences? Are any of the following relevant about either country: Style of government? Population? Work habits? Trade balance? Cultural influences? Economic system? General affluence (or lack thereof) of the population? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3647 Registered: 8-2001 |
Bodo (Bodo) New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2434 Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 7:53 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) It has to be a Chinese-American because only such a person could appreciate the cultural differences? no Are any of the following relevant about either country: Style of government no? Population? no Work habits? noTrade balance? noCultural influences? no Economic system? noGeneral affluence (or lack thereof) of the population? no | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3661 Registered: 8-2001 |
HINT: The previous round of questions tells you many things that are NOT relevant. Think about what's left! | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3662 Registered: 8-2001 |
HINT: The previous round of questions tells you many things that are NOT relevant. Think about what's left! | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 468 Registered: 9-2007 |
Is the phrase "Made in China" relevant? Food relevant? | ||
| Liquizt (Liquizt)
New member Username: Liquizt Post Number: 323 Registered: 5-2008 |
There is something about one or both countries? of relevance? Iff so: china? america? both? Iff both: the same thing, different things? Is the joke teller-referential? Would it work if he was a half chinese, half american, living in australia? I think Noobdogg may have hit on it with the "Made in China" :P - which I think fits perfectly with all the previous answers. | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3667 Registered: 8-2001 |
Noobdogg (Noobdogg) New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 468 Registered: 9-2007 Posted on Sunday, August 31, 2008 - 6:46 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is the phrase "Made in China" relevant? no Food relevant? no Liquizt (Liquizt) New member Username: Liquizt Post Number: 323 Registered: 5-2008 Posted on Monday, September 01, 2008 - 4:34 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) There is something about one or both countries? yes of relevance? yesIff so: china? yes america? yes both? yes Iff both: the same thing, different things? same Is the joke teller-referential?yes Would it work if he was a half chinese, half american, living in australia? no I think Noobdogg may have hit on it with the "Made in China" He didn't!!!! :P - which I think fits perfectly with all the previous answers.How would such a joke be about America? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 1375 Registered: 1-2007 |
Anything to do with notion that if you dug down deep enough in America you would end up in China? Any accent or way of speaking relevant? Flied Lice or that sort of thing? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 492 Registered: 9-2007 |
China as in porcelain relevant? Towns / communities in the US named China relevant (eg. China, Maine or China, Texas) Is a stereotype about Chinese people relevant? Sorry if these attempts seem inane / cliche, hope I come up with something more soon. | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3672 Registered: 8-2001 |
Peter365 (Peter365) New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 1375 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2008 - 1:08 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Anything to do with notion that if you dug down deep enough in America you would end up in China? yes Any accent or way of speaking relevant? no Flied Lice or that sort of thing? no Noobdogg (Noobdogg) New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 492 Registered: 9-2007 Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2008 - 3:47 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) China as in porcelain relevant? no Towns / communities in the US named China relevant (eg. China, Maine or China, Texas) no Is a stereotype about Chinese people relevant? no Sorry if these attempts seem inane / cliche, hope I come up with something more soon. | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 1392 Registered: 1-2007 |
Hmm not sure how to proceed Was the joke of the "I say I say I say what do you call a...." variety or was it more of a witty remark in reaction to a particular situation. Is actual phsical digging relevant to the solution? or is it digging as in getting to the crux of a topic (as i'm trying to do with this puzzle) Did someone say if you dig deep enough you'll find the solution and Wong said If i dig deep enough i'll get home. Is the expression digging your own grave relevant? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3682 Registered: 8-2001 |
Peter365 (Peter365) New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 1392 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Tuesday, September 09, 2008 - 3:48 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Hmm not sure how to proceed Was the joke of the "I say I say I say what do you call a...." variety or was it more of a witty remark in reaction to a particular situation. the latter Is actual phsical digging relevant to the solution? or is it digging as in getting to the crux of a topic (as i'm trying to do with this puzzle) the former Did someone say if you dig deep enough you'll find the solution no and Wong said If i dig deep enough i'll get home.You're very ORT (on the right track) Is the expression digging your own grave relevant? no Actually, you're close enough for me to declare a *********** SPOILER ****************** One day Lucretia Jones sees her neighbor, Lloyd Wong, digging a deep hole in his garden."What are you doing?" Lucretia asks. "I'm going home," Lloyd replies. Thus is from a joke I once read. Please check out my new puzzle at the bottom of. . .well, you know. | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 1393 Registered: 1-2007 |
yahoo. This is the first solve of a Nimue for me after much trying. | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 3689 Registered: 8-2001 |
So you should now be well-equipped to solve my others!! |
