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The sign "WX or W: please yourself" is possibly trumped by another sign: "Y love Z".
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X, Y, W, Z = words? names? words or names?
WX = word1word2 (e.g. inlaw)? (or) = word1 word2 (e.g. in law)?
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X, Y, W, Z = words? yes: English words names? words or names? not names
WX = word1word2 (e.g. inlaw)? not this (or) = word1 word2 (e.g. in law)? this
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W is a noun? pronoun? adjective? verb? adverb? preposition? conjunction? interjection?
X is a noun? pronoun? adjective? verb? adverb? preposition? conjunction? interjection?
Y is a noun? pronoun? adjective? verb? adverb? preposition? conjunction? interjection?
Z is a noun? pronoun? adjective? verb? adverb? preposition? conjunction? interjection?
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W is a noun? no pronoun? no adjective? yope verb? no adverb? yope preposition? no conjunction? no interjection? no

X is a noun? pronoun? adjective? this verb? adverb? preposition? conjunction? interjection? no to rest

Y is a noun? this pronoun? adjective? verb? adverb? preposition? conjunction? interjection? no to rest

Z is a noun? this pronoun? adjective? verb? adverb? preposition? conjunction? interjection? no to rest

Got to admire your systematic approach!
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W(1)=W(2)?

Are the letters representing the words the first letters of the words? contained within the words?

Is there a "code" or is the assignment of the letters completely random?
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W(1)=W(2)? yes

Are the letters representing the words the first letters of the words? no, see below contained within the words?

Is there a "code" or is the assignment of the letters completely random? completely random: I could have used blanks, but the repeated word (W) should be a clue
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W(1) is used with the same meaning as W(2)?
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W(1) is used with the same meaning as W(2)? no
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You probably saw this coming:
W(1) = adjective? adverb?
W(2) = adjective? adverb?
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You probably saw this coming:
W(1) = adjective? adverb? <this one
W(2) = adjective? <this one adverb?

Good questions.
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Does W1 and thus W2 end in "ly?"
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Considers LTPF list of nouns...

lets go for a route less obvious;

Would/could these signs be used interchangably in the same situation?
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Does W1 and thus W2 end in "ly?" no, good q again

Considers LTPF list of nouns... LOL.

Would/could these signs be used interchangably in the same situation? they convey a similar, but not identical, message, and appear in comparable contexts
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How many syllables in word1&2? 1? 2? 3? 4? more?
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How many syllables in word1&2? 1? 2? 3? 4? more? W and X each have one syllable, while Y and Z each have four syllables. And no, I'm not going to spell the words out :-)
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sorry,,, i meant for it to read "W1&2"
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does Y=Z?
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Would a more original (and likely to have some kind of success) approach (than resorting to Hangman) be to discover the situation(s) in which one or both of these signs have context?

'sign'(1) = 'sign'(2) [in terms of meaning]
By 'sign' do you mean: a perceptible indication of something not immediately apparent? a public written message? a nonverbal action or gesture? sign language? speech?
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sorry,,, i meant for it to read "W1&2" Ah sorry 'bout that ... W is the same word in each case. One syllable.
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I am sorry if the questions I ask are too simple, will have no kind of success, and are too unoriginal.
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does Y=Z? nope

Would a more original (and likely to have some kind of success) approach (than resorting to Hangman) be to discover the situation(s) in which one or both of these signs have context? LOL! Yes indeed! I think the Hangman approach is rather original, but I'm an opponent of capital punishment, and so would probably not play along :P

'sign'(1) = 'sign'(2) [in terms of meaning]
By 'sign' do you mean: a perceptible indication of something not immediately apparent? a public written message? this one a nonverbal action or gesture? sign language? speech? no to rest
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I am sorry if the questions I ask are too simple, will have no kind of success, and are too unoriginal. I love all questions on my puzzles! My puzzles are only a bit of fun & idle frippery, of an evening. :-)
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Is either sign written by/the property of: government? a small business? a large business? a charity? a group? an individual?
Is either sign written on: metal (e.g. with plastic: roadsigns)? card (e.g. help wanted)? cardboard (e.g. feed me I'm homeless) paper (e.g. back in 5)?
Was either sign written impromptu?
Does either sign have more than one purpose (e.g to attract attention to something else by first attracting attention to itself by being humourous)?
Is either sign humourous?
sign(2) possibly trumps sign(1) because it's possibly more humourous? successful in its aims? a concise and/or powerful way to deliver a common message?
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Is either sign written by/the property of: government? this one a small business? a large business? a charity? a group? an individual?

Is either sign written on: metal (e.g. with plastic: roadsigns)? they are both road signs, probably made of metal but irrel card (e.g. help wanted)? cardboard (e.g. feed me I'm homeless) paper (e.g. back in 5)?
Was either sign written impromptu? no

Does either sign have more than one purpose (e.g to attract attention to something else by first attracting attention to itself by being humourous)? hmmm .... sort of

Is either sign humourous? yes, I'd say so
sign(2) possibly trumps sign(1) because it's possibly more humourous? this one successful in its aims? rather than this one a concise and/or powerful way to deliver a common message? this would apply to both signs
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Are the signs warnings to drivers? instructions? suggestions? informing?
Would the signs make sense/be relevant if seen in any other location (e.g. when walking through a park)?
In your opinion, would you say the humour was intended in both signs?
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Are the signs warnings to drivers? this one instructions? suggestions? informing?

Would the signs make sense/be relevant if seen in any other location (e.g. when walking through a park)? no

In your opinion, would you say the humour was intended in both signs? yes
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warning them about: the road ahead? speed? tiredness? braking distances? under/overtaking? something else?
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warning them about: the road ahead? speed? <specifically this tiredness? braking distances?

under/overtaking? <and this something else?
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undertaking? overtaking?

Now just trying to think of some four syllable nouns...
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undertaking? overtaking? no, but ...

Now just trying to think of some four syllable nouns... ... think ever so slightly to the side
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Are the signs aimed at specific kinds of vehicle/driver? (or) are they aimed at all road users?
If specific kinds of vehicle are relevant do these include: motorcycles? cars? vans/trucks? HGVs?
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Are the signs aimed at specific kinds of vehicle/driver? (or) are they aimed at all road users? all vehicles
If specific kinds of vehicle are relevant do these include: motorcycles? cars? vans/trucks? HGVs?
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In India, where I live, almost all trucks have the quaint words "Horn Ok Please" painted colourfully behind them. Probably irrelevant but if you're interested in this strange sign check this out:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horn_OK_Please
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In India, where I live, almost all trucks have the quaint words "Horn Ok Please" painted colourfully behind them. Probably irrelevant but if you're interested in this strange sign check this out: Hehe, that's great. I didn't know that. I'm still saving up to visit India.

Actually, the two signs in this puzzle are from Nigeria and the Bahamas.
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Y = undertakers?
Z = overtakers?
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Y = undertakers?
Z = overtakers? Yes! "Undertakers love overtakers". Nice job. Still the first sign to solve.
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By "trumped", do you mean that the first sign suggests you should overtake, but is overruled by the second? Or that they both involve clever wordplay, but the second is possibly even better?
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By "trumped", do you mean that the first sign suggests you should overtake, but is overruled by the second? no

Or that they both involve clever wordplay, but the second is possibly even better? simply this one, at least in the opinion of the writer I took it from
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Dead slow or Dead: Please Yourself? (Judging from the undertaker bit :-) )
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Dead slow or Dead: Please Yourself? (Judging from the undertaker bit :-) ) Congrats!

*** SPOILER ***

A letter to The Times on Thursday morning:

The road sign "Dead Slow or Dead: Please Yourself" spotted in Nigeria is perhaps trumped by one in the Bahamas, which reads "Undertakers Love Overtakers".

Well done and thanks for playing :-)

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