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Zephyr14 (Zephyr14)
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Posted on Monday, September 15, 2008 - 4:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

He finally got a good night's sleep. In the morning, however, he realised he lost a lot of money, and needed to spend some more, too.
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He = H? A? M?
All the he's in the statement refering to the same individual?

Title relevant? Is gambling involved? Lottery? Sweepstakes? Raffle tickets? Online ads? Scams?

He got a good night's sleep because he finally thought that he had financial security of some sort?
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He = H? A? M? Yes
All the he's in the statement refering to the same individual? Yes

Title relevant? Yes Is gambling involved? Lottery? Sweepstakes? Raffle tickets? Online ads? This Scams?

He got a good night's sleep because he finally thought that he had financial security of some sort? No
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Did he click on an advert for beds? Pillows? Any sleeping aids?
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Did he click on an advert for beds?No Pillows?No Any sleeping aids?No
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Did he lose money because he overslept? Missed some sort of appointment?
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Did he lose money because he overslept?No Missed some sort of appointment?No
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Had he failed to hear something during the night that a light sleeper would have heard e.g. a burglar?
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Had he failed to hear something during the nightYou can say that that a light sleeper would have heard e.g. a burglar?It's not like this, but you're OTRT, take a little lateral step in order to find the right point of view

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Was he trying to stay awake so he did not miss something?
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Did he intend to fall asleep when he did? Did he fall asleep at his computer? Did he unintentionally purchase something online?
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Did he fall asleep on his computer keyboard?
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Was he trying to stay awake so he did not miss something?No
Did he intend to fall asleep when he did?Yes Did he fall asleep at his computer?No, but it's the question closest to the right track Did he unintentionally purchase something online?No
Did he fall asleep on his computer keyboard?No
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Was his computer "active" while he was sleeping? Did he forget to close an application? Did a pet or child touch his computer while he was sleeping?
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Was his computer "active" while he was sleeping?YOPE, good question Did he forget to close an application?No Did a pet or child touch his computer while he was sleeping?No
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Did he lose money because he...
...was linked to a fee based website (e.g. $1/minute kind of thing)?
...was on a long distance phone call via his computer?
...was linked to a 900 number?
...accidentally downloaded something?
...was addicted to porn?
...was careless?
...was impatient?
...was confused?
...was ignorant?
...was drunk?

Was he going to spend more money because he would need to hire a lawyer? would need to buy a new computer? would need to pay for a divorce?
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Did he lose money because he...
...was linked to a fee based website (e.g. $1/minute kind of thing)? No
...was on a long distance phone call via his computer? No
...was linked to a 900 number? No
...accidentally downloaded something? No
...was addicted to porn? IRR :P
...was careless? Noish
...was impatient? No
...was confused? No
...was ignorant? Kind of, though in the situation given, there was little he could do
...was drunk? No
HINT: there's more than one meaning to losing money

Was he going to spend more money because he would need to hire a lawyer?No would need to buy a new computer?YESish would need to pay for a divorce?No
A little computer knowledge could be needed but not the technical kind, more the anyone-has-observed-this kind. And figuring out the sleep part will elucidate it completely
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So his computer was powered on? On sleep mode?

He would only need to replace certain parts of his computer?

Was he an insomniac? Did he lose consciousness rather than fall asleep?

Was he supposed to be observing something, that he found a way to bypass (so he could sleep and not have to stare waiting for w/e to happen on the screen), but he forgot to disable the automatic hibernation/sleep mode on his pc which also effectively disabled this "trick"?

Was the title part of the relevant online ad?
Did he click on the ad? Was it for a contest? If so: Follow through with w/e contest it was for? Did he believe that he could win money if he took part in it? When he went to sleep did he think he had finally won the contest?

More than one meaning to losing money: was it fake money? virtual money like in an online game?
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So his computer was powered on?Yes On sleep mode?No, good questions.

He would only need to replace certain parts of his computer? Yes

Was he an insomniac?No, he just slept badly Did he lose consciousness rather than fall asleep?No, and a bit of a FA

Was he supposed to be observing something, that he found a way to bypass (so he could sleep and not have to stare waiting for w/e to happen on the screen), but he forgot to disable the automatic hibernation/sleep mode on his pc which also effectively disabled this "trick"? No, but a bit on the right track regarding the money

Was the title part of the relevant online ad? No, FA: There is not one certain ad that is relevant.
Did he click on the ad?No, FA Was it for a contest?Irrelevant If so: Follow through with w/e contest it was for? Did he believe that he could win money if he took part in it?No When he went to sleep did he think he had finally won the contest?No

More than one meaning to losing money: was it fake money? virtual money like in an online game?Real money, but there are more points of view to losing.
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Ok here's what I'm thinking:

For some reason he has to sleep with the computer on. He sleeps badly, usually, because a lot of spyware has gotten into his system, and keeps popping up annoying ads (maybe with sounds?). So he purchases a pop-up blocker or antispyware software and installs it on his PC. It apparently stops the issue of the popups and he sleeps well (I still don't have an exact idea as to why the ads kept him up), but when he checks his PC the next morning, he finds out that the software he purchased was either corrupted or was a virus and it had caused his pc to cash - leading him to have to spend more. So he 'lost' money because the money he had spent for a particular purpose was wasted.
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For some reason he has to sleep with the computer onYES, explore the reason. He sleeps badly, usually, because a lot of spyware has gotten into his systemNot this, but he does sleep badly because of the PC, and keeps popping up annoying ads (maybe with sounds?). So he purchases a pop-up blocker or antispyware software and installs it on his PC. It apparently stops the issue of the popups and he sleeps well (I still don't have an exact idea as to why the ads kept him up), but when he checks his PC the next morning, he finds out that the software he purchased was either corrupted or was a virus and it had caused his pc to cash - leading him to have to spend more. So he 'lost' money because the money he had spent for a particular purpose was wasted. The rest is wrong, but you are closing in on it.
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Does he usually sleep poorly because of some noise associated with his PC? visual activity? anxiety?

Does he make money by doing something online? selling something?

Did his computer malfunction? Is his computer usually connected to the internet while he sleeps?Did he lose his internet connection?

Was his loss of money in the form of money that he would have made if things had not gotten screwed up? (Am I correct to assume that something did not go according to plan in this little scenerio?)
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Does he usually sleep poorly because of some noise associated with his PC? YES visual activity? anxiety?

Does he make money by doing something online?YES selling something? Yope... not the best way to put it

Did his computer malfunction?Something like that Is his computer usually connected to the internet while he sleeps?YESDid he lose his internet connection? YES!!

Was his loss of money in the form of money that he would have made if things had not gotten screwed up? (Am I correct to assume that something did not go according to plan in this little scenerio?)YES YES AND YES. great, great, great questions! Just put it all together now
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Did he create some sort of web robot for online gambling (e.g. poker)? provide some phone/communication service for other online customers?

Is the reason he lost his internet connection relevant? or is it only relevant that the connection somehow was interrupted, and we need to put together the consequences?
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Did he create some sort of web robot for online gambling (e.g. poker)? No provide some phone/communication service for other online customers? I don't really understand. Is this related to the previous question? If not, I could say yope

Is the reason he lost his internet connection relevant? or is it only relevant that the connection somehow was interrupted, and we need to put together the consequences?The reason is relevant, and you can figure it out by putting together all the parts of this puzzle.
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Is his computer a server that other computers connect to? Is his job to oversee a company's server at night? Was he SUPPOSED to be sleeping at this time at all? Does this all take place at his home? work? someplace else?
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Is his computer a server that other computers connect to?BINGO! Is his job to oversee a company'sno server at night?no Was he SUPPOSED to be sleeping at this time at all?certainly Does this all take place at his home?here work? someplace else?
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Is the server used for file sharing of some kind? for a multiplayer game? for hosting a web page?
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Is the server used for file sharing of some kind? no/irrfor a multiplayer game?nofor hosting a web page?yes
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Does his server host online ads somehow?
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Does his server host online ads somehow?Yesish, not specifically but yes
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So, is it correct that the money he lost was the ad revenue from his web site during the period that it was down?

And if he had been awake, he would have realized that his web site had gone down and fixed it before he lost too much money? Or was his going to sleep somehow the cause of the failure of his connection?

Did he lose the connection because...

...he didn't pay his web site hosting fees/ISP fees?
...the cable was physically disconnected?
...a software failure/virus/computer crash?
...he accidentally did something to his computer (like turn off the connection)?
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Was the server fried by a power surge caused by a storm? Was that why he would need to spend more money? If he'd been awake, could he have taken the server offline when the storm started and prevented the equipment from being damaged?
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So, is it correct that the money he lost was the ad revenue from his web site during the period that it was down? Precisely

And if he had been awake, he would have realized that his web site had gone down and fixed it before he lost too much money?Yes, but irrel. I said he was supposed to be sleeping anyway. He just slept much better thanks to a certain factor. Or was his going to sleep somehow the cause of the failure of his connection? Yope! Not the cause, but...

Did he lose the connection because...

...he didn't pay his web site hosting fees/ISP fees?
...the cable was physically disconnected?
...a software failure/virus/computer crash?
...he accidentally did something to his computer (like turn off the connection)?
Neither, you forgot the other kind of possible failure
Was the server fried by a power surge caused by a storm? noWas that why he would need to spend more money?If by that, you mean that he will need to spend some cash replacing certain components, then yes If he'd been awake, could he have taken the server offline when the storm started and prevented the equipment from being damaged?It's not this
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Denial of Service attack? Popularity of website relevant?

Would he have been able to prevent the cause of the connection loss from actually causing the loss had he been awake?
Would he have been woken by the cause otherwise (if it were not for the factor that made him sleep better)?
Would he have been woken by something (if it were not for the factor that made him sleep better)? and been able to prevent the loss of connection? save the problem from getting worse? fix it sooner?

Did he somehow stop the noise of the computer? stop the noise from disturbing him?
By: moving it to another room? installing a cooling-system? wearing earplugs?

Did physical damage occur to the server? permanent loss of data? that was preventable?

Was there any loss involved other than the connection? Would this loss have occured if his computer was not a server?
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Denial of Service attack?No Popularity of website relevant? Just that he would have had visitors and thus earn ad money

Would he have been able to prevent the cause of the connection loss from actually causing the loss had he been awake? Not really. I said earlier that he might have fixed it earlier but I'm not that sure about that either... This is besides the point anyway, but it might help figure out the component that failed.
Would he have been woken by the cause otherwise (if it were not for the factor that made him sleep better)? no
Would he have been woken by something (if it were not for the factor that made him sleep better)?no and been able to prevent the loss of connection?no save the problem from getting worse? fix it sooner? see above... not really

Did he somehow stop the noise of the computer? Yope stop the noise from disturbing him? Yope
By: moving it to another room?No installing a cooling-system?Yope wearing earplugs? No

Did physical damage occur to the server?yes permanent loss of data?no that was preventable? let's just stick with no. Maybe if he had a backup component ready and he would have changed it immediately, he would only have like 10 min of downtime. This is not really relevant. The questions that eared yopes above are very very close, but they miss the point

Was there any loss involved other than the connection? Yes Would this loss have occured if his computer was not a server? As long as it was on, yes

This is getting close now, a little recap: He finally got a good night's sleep. It was night and he was supposed to be sleeping, but this time he finally slept better than usual. He was a bit stressed during his sleep because of the constant noise made by his PC, but this noise must be further explored. In the morning, however, he realised he lost the ad revenue he would have recieved during the night, and needed to spend some more, too, to fix the computer and change the broken stuff.
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So he's a webmaster with a big noisy server? With a noisy cooling fan? And he invests in some sound insulation so that he can sleep better? But the sound insulation is so effective that he can't tell when the fan malfunctions and blows the motherboard, thus losing him revenue during his downtime? Is this all correct?

But there's more to it, because the server is making a constant noise, yes? Even while he is asleep? And this noise is substantially different from the usual noise that keeps him awake?

Is the new noise some sort of system sound? The sound of the fan? The sound of something malfunctioning inside the PC? Something coming through the PC's speakers? The sound of a modem or something similar? Same questions for the previous noise.


Is there a wasps' nest inside the PC?
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So he's a webmaster with a big noisy server?Just a small noisy one. It's a regular PC hosting a web page. With a noisy cooling fan?Indeed And he invests in some sound insulation so that he can sleep better?No But the sound insulation is so effective that he can't tell when the fan malfunctions and blows the motherboard, thus losing him revenue during his downtime?You overcomplicated it Is this all correct?

But there's more to it, because the server is making a constant noise, yes?Well, it does, but that doesn't mean there's more to it Even while he is asleep?He obviously doesn't turn off the server while he is asleep And this noise is substantially different from the usual noise that keeps him awake? Where did you get this idea?

You flew right by the solution. I'll give you another chance, since I hope it's more fun, rather than if I spoil it now

Is the new noise some sort of system sound? The sound of the fan?No new noise. Just the sound of the fan. One noise, that's all. The sound of something malfunctioning inside the PC? Something coming through the PC's speakers? The sound of a modem or something similar? Same questions for the previous noise.

Is there a wasps' nest inside the PC?... as much as I love this disturbing image, no.
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Ok, is it simply that the fan grew quieter as it started to malfunction, so that he fell asleep as the fan fizzled out?
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* * * SPOILER * * *
OK, I think it's time :D

So this guy ran a website from his PC, which was in his bedroom. The fan on the CPU usually made an awful noise which he had grown accustomed to, but his sleep was a bit more uneasy.
However during one night, the fan stopped working, and thus the noise stopped. The fan was simply old and the dust accumulating had gotten to it, so it simply didn't spin anymore, not making any noise either.
He slept really well withouth knowing the reason, but in the morning he saw his PC crashed.
Not only had he lost the ad revenue, but he also would have to spend money on a new cooler (the CPUs usually have thermal sensors and they shut down before going that hot)

This is somehow based on what happened to me, which eventually led to changing my username.
I don't have any ads on my website, but, to compensate, I tried to change my cooler after drinking 2 beers, and I thought that while I'm at it, I could do the pencil trick (google it) on my Duron CPU to unlock its frequencies and be able to overclock it.
I may not have lost ad revenue cash, but I had to spend money on a new mainboard, CPU, and RAM too.

Thaks everyone for playing, this has been my first puzzle which lasted more than a couple messages.
Cheers!

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