| Author | Message | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 355 Registered: 5-2003 |
Shortly after his ship suffered an electrical surge (for irrelevant reasons), a captain ordered several hundred gallons of gray paint. Why? (Note: Like my previous 'Oops' puzzle, this is a humorous story that did not, and probably could not, actually happen.) | ||
| Travis (Travis)
New member Username: Travis Post Number: 163 Registered: 12-2007 |
Ship = sailing vessel? Captain = commander of the ship? Was the paint for his ship? Would a different color paint (say, red) have worked just as well for his purpose? Can we assume that no ducks with bricks, dwarves, or blocks of ice are involved in this puzzle? (: | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 357 Registered: 5-2003 |
Ship = sailing vessel? Yes. Captain = commander of the ship? Yes. Was the paint for his ship? Yes. Would a different color paint (say, red) have worked just as well for his purpose? No. Can we assume that no ducks with bricks, dwarves, or blocks of ice are involved in this puzzle? (: Yes, you may. Do I want to know what this one is about? :p | ||
| Rubberduck (Rubberduck)
New member Username: Rubberduck Post Number: 100 Registered: 3-2006 |
Was the ship a navy vessel? Private ship? Motorized ship? Sails? Was the ship already painted? Gray? Another color? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 358 Registered: 5-2003 |
Was the ship a navy vessel? This. Private ship? Motorized ship? This. Sails? Was the ship already painted? Yes. Gray? Yes. Another color? Yope. | ||
| Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg Post Number: 593 Registered: 8-2005 |
Did the electrical surge cause the paint on the ship to flake of? | ||
| Travis (Travis)
New member Username: Travis Post Number: 165 Registered: 12-2007 |
All of the things I listed are parts of scenarios from Admin's books... just some of the bizarre ones. | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 359 Registered: 5-2003 |
Did the electrical surge cause the paint on the ship to flake off? No. | ||
| Bigpurple (Bigpurple)
New member Username: Bigpurple Post Number: 64 Registered: 8-2008 |
Is the yope to another color due too letters on the ship's sides? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 360 Registered: 5-2003 |
Is the yope to another color due too letters on the ship's sides? No. | ||
| Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd Post Number: 193 Registered: 6-2008 |
Is the yope because some of the paint was chipped off? the ship was partly rusted? there was something (e.g. algae) growing on it? there was actually another color of paint used somewhere on the ship? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 361 Registered: 5-2003 |
Is the yope because some of the paint was chipped off? No. the ship was partly rusted? No. there was something (e.g. algae) growing on it? No. there was actually another color of paint used somewhere on the ship? No. | ||
| Rubberduck (Rubberduck)
New member Username: Rubberduck Post Number: 103 Registered: 3-2006 |
Yope have anything to do with the captain being colorblind? Did the electric surge affect the captain's brain? So that he saw the wrong color? And thought the ship was no longer gray? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 362 Registered: 5-2003 |
Yope have anything to do with the captain being colorblind? Did the electric surge affect the captain's brain? So that he saw the wrong color? And thought the ship was no longer gray? No to all. None of the crew were injured by the surge. | ||
| Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg Post Number: 595 Registered: 8-2005 |
After the surge was the ship the same colour as it was before the surge? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 363 Registered: 5-2003 |
After the surge was the ship the same colour as it was before the surge? No. | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 364 Registered: 5-2003 |
Partly, anyway. Most of it was still gray, but part had to be repainted. | ||
| Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg Post Number: 596 Registered: 8-2005 |
Did some of the paint come off because of the surge? change colour? become coated with something? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 365 Registered: 5-2003 |
Did some of the paint come off because of the surge? No. change colour? No. become coated with something? Yes. | ||
| Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg Post Number: 597 Registered: 8-2005 |
The thing it was coated with could it be removed? Painted over? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 366 Registered: 5-2003 |
The thing it was coated with could it be removed? Painted over? Either, assume the latter. | ||
| Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg Post Number: 598 Registered: 8-2005 |
Did the ship become magnetised? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 368 Registered: 5-2003 |
Did the ship become magnetised? No. | ||
| Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg Post Number: 599 Registered: 8-2005 |
Did the electrical surge cause the ship to be covered with something? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 369 Registered: 5-2003 |
Did the electrical surge cause the ship to be covered with something? Yes. | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 1 Registered: 9-2008 |
Did the electrical surge cause a black, charred pattern over the paint? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 370 Registered: 5-2003 |
Did the electrical surge cause a black, charred pattern over the paint? No. | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 2 Registered: 9-2008 |
Hm-m... Did the surge cause another substance to melt over the ship's paint? Such as Plastic? or Rubber? or Tar? Is there anything else about the story we need to explore? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 371 Registered: 5-2003 |
Did the surge cause another substance to melt over the ship's paint? No. Such as Plastic? or Rubber? or Tar? None of the above. Is there anything else about the story we need to explore? Oh, yes. | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 3 Registered: 9-2008 |
The several hundred gallons of gray paint - this is to be used to repaint the outside of the ship? Inside the ship? or Other? Does "navel vessel" mean the official Gov't sponsored Navy? Is is relevant to determine which country's government? If this is a Navy vessel, was the paint supplied by the Navy? Is the captain trying to avoid punishment from his superiors? or shame from the general public or media? Is the damage caused by the electrical surge relevant? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 372 Registered: 5-2003 |
The several hundred gallons of gray paint - this is to be used to repaint the outside of the ship? This. Inside the ship? or Other? Does "navel vessel" mean the official Gov't sponsored Navy? Yes. Is is relevant to determine which country's government? No, assume Western. If this is a Navy vessel, was the paint supplied by the Navy? Irr. Is the captain trying to avoid punishment from his superiors? No. or shame from the general public or media? Possibly, but irr. Is the damage caused by the electrical surge relevant? Yes, but watch out for an FA. | ||
| Rubberduck (Rubberduck)
New member Username: Rubberduck Post Number: 104 Registered: 3-2006 |
Did the surge cause birds on the ship to loose their loads? Thereby coating parts of the outside of the ship with bird droppings? Which the captain decided to paint over? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 373 Registered: 5-2003 |
Did the surge cause birds on the ship to loose their loads? Thereby coating parts of the outside of the ship with bird droppings? Which the captain decided to paint over? No to all. | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 4 Registered: 9-2008 |
Was the paint coated with some substance at the exact time of the surge? Within several minutes after the surge? Several hours or days after the surge? Is it relevant to determine what substance covered the paint? And how it got there? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 375 Registered: 5-2003 |
Was the paint coated with some substance at the exact time of the surge? Not immediately, but within seconds. Within several minutes after the surge? Several hours or days after the surge? Is it relevant to determine what substance covered the paint? And how it got there? Yes to both. | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 6 Registered: 9-2008 |
Was it a fire retardant? Crew members doused the flames with a fire extinguisher? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 376 Registered: 5-2003 |
Was it a fire retardant? No. Crew members doused the flames with a fire extinguisher? No. | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 15 Registered: 9-2008 |
Is the FA = the surge caused some type of damage? Was the electrical surge an unexpected event? Was the electrical surge used to repair some type of damage? Am I going the right direction, now? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 381 Registered: 5-2003 |
Is the FA = the surge caused some type of damage? Correct -- the ship was essentially undamaged. While some electronics might have been burned out by the surge, this is irrelevant to solving the puzzle. Was the electrical surge an unexpected event? Yes. Was the electrical surge used to repair some type of damage? No. | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 23 Registered: 9-2008 |
Oh man! There goes my idea that the electrical surge was really a welding torch that was used to attach replacement panels to the side of the ship. And it sounded so good at the time! Back to the drawing board: Something covered the ship's paint: was it put there by person(s) on the ship? By person(s) on the land? By person(s) on another vessel? By accident? On purpose? Was this the result of a chain reaction of events? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 382 Registered: 5-2003 |
Something covered the ship's paint: was it put there by person(s) on the ship? No. By person(s) on the land? No. By person(s) on another vessel? No. By accident? Yes. On purpose? No. Was this the result of a chain reaction of events? A short one, but yes. | ||
| Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd Post Number: 208 Registered: 6-2008 |
The substance coating the ship--did it come from within the ship? from the water? from the air? created by a chemical reaction? Is it naturally occurring? man-made? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 617 Registered: 9-2007 |
Did the surge cause a particular electrical or electronic machine/instrument/tool to malfunction? prematurely activate or deactivate? fail? overheat? something along these lines? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 383 Registered: 5-2003 |
The substance coating the ship--did it come from within the ship? from the water? from the air? This. created by a chemical reaction? Technically... not created right then by a chem reaction, though. Is it naturally occurring? This. man-made? Did the surge cause a particular electrical or electronic machine/instrument/tool to malfunction? Yes. prematurely activate or deactivate? Yes. fail? overheat? something along these lines? | ||
| Liquizt (Liquizt)
New member Username: Liquizt Post Number: 530 Registered: 5-2008 |
Sounds like a case of electroplating to me, is this it? Just trying to figure with what substance and where the ions could have come from orignally... Did the foreign substance rise from the sea originally? come from the ship? from land? from the clouds i.e. as or in rain? (or) was always present in the air? | ||
| Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
New member Username: Noobdogg Post Number: 629 Registered: 9-2007 |
Thought - was there an electro-magnetic crane on the ship? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 385 Registered: 5-2003 |
Sounds like a case of electroplating to me, is this it? No. Just trying to figure with what substance and where the ions could have come from orignally... Did the foreign substance rise from the sea originally? come from the ship? No. from land? from the clouds i.e. as or in rain? No. The substance could be said to have rained onto the ship, but was not water. (or) was always present in the air? It was present in the air at the time, but can also be found on land and in the water. There is an FA here, and it's a bit difficult to answer. As a hint, I'll say that no relevant chemical reactions occurred during the incident. | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 386 Registered: 5-2003 |
Thought - was there an electro-magnetic crane on the ship? Irrelevant. | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 387 Registered: 5-2003 |
Blooper: Chemical reactions are really irrelevant to the whole thing. | ||
| Dlcygnet (Dlcygnet)
New member Username: Dlcygnet Post Number: 1408 Registered: 6-2005 |
Did the surge cause the paint to change color in just the wrong place, so that now the "name" of the ship read something completely different? Something Obscene? I.e. HMS Assassin now read aloud reads HMS Ass? | ||
| Haenlomal (Haenlomal)
New member Username: Haenlomal Post Number: 862 Registered: 9-2003 |
Was the ship in the water at the time of the surge? Relevant? Would the change have been immediately visible to the naked eye? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 388 Registered: 5-2003 |
Did the surge cause the paint to change color in just the wrong place, so that now the "name" of the ship read something completely different? Something Obscene? I.e. HMS Assassin now read aloud reads HMS Ass? No, irrelevant. Was the ship in the water at the time of the surge? Yes. Relevant? Mostly, yes. This could've happened in dry-dock, but would require incompetence. Would the change have been immediately visible to the naked eye? Yes. | ||
| Haenlomal (Haenlomal)
New member Username: Haenlomal Post Number: 864 Registered: 9-2003 |
If the ship was painted shocking pink, would this puzzle still have worked? If the ship was made of wood, would this puzzle have worked? (Is the ship made of wood? Of metal?) Are there events happening outside the ship that is relevant to the puzzle? Gunpowder relevant? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 390 Registered: 5-2003 |
If the ship was painted shocking pink, would this puzzle still have worked? Yes. If the ship was made of wood, would this puzzle have worked? Probably not. (Is the ship made of wood? Of metal?) Metal. Are there events happening outside the ship that is relevant to the puzzle? I wouldn't call it an event, but something outside the ship IS relevant. Gunpowder relevant? Yes. | ||
| Haenlomal (Haenlomal)
New member Username: Haenlomal Post Number: 867 Registered: 9-2003 |
Hmmm...is the material coated on the ship potassium carbonate? Potassium sulfate? (I've forgotten most of my high school chemistry, so I hope I have the right stuff here...) | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 391 Registered: 5-2003 |
Hmmm...is the material coated on the ship potassium carbonate? Potassium sulfate? (I've forgotten most of my high school chemistry, so I hope I have the right stuff here...) No to both. | ||
| Rubberduck (Rubberduck)
New member Username: Rubberduck Post Number: 106 Registered: 3-2006 |
Did the surge cause an explosion of some kind? Gunpowder to explode? Anything to do with weapons? Was the ship coated with gunpowder? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 392 Registered: 5-2003 |
Did the surge cause an explosion of some kind? Yes. Gunpowder to explode? Yes. Anything to do with weapons? Yes. Was the ship coated with gunpowder? No. | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 28 Registered: 9-2008 |
Oh goody – new info! Playing catch up.... The chain reaction started with an electrical surge that caused an explosion involving weapons and gunpowder, right? After that, there was one or more “event(s)” that happened where the result was that the ship was coated with something? The stuff that coated the ship was a naturally occurring substance, something that is found both on land and in water, and it “rained” down from the air, correct? Would these weapons typically be called the “big guns”? For example cannons or torpedos. Was there an island or land mass near the ship at the time? Was there another ship/vessel nearby at the time? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 393 Registered: 5-2003 |
The chain reaction started with an electrical surge that caused an explosion involving weapons and gunpowder, right? Yope, look out for an FA here. After that, there was one or more “event(s)” that happened where the result was that the ship was coated with something? Something like that. The stuff that coated the ship was a naturally occurring substance, something that is found both on land and in water, and it “rained” down from the air, correct? Yup. Would these weapons typically be called the “big guns”? For example cannons or torpedos. No, secondary armament. Was there an island or land mass near the ship at the time? Yes. It's irrelevant which one. Was there another ship/vessel nearby at the time? Irr. | ||
| Haenlomal (Haenlomal)
New member Username: Haenlomal Post Number: 871 Registered: 9-2003 |
Ok...maybe potassium carbonate and sulfate aren't gunpowder residue...best make sure I thoroughly eliminate this possibility. Was the ship coated with some sort of residue that can be derived from the combustion of gunpowder? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 394 Registered: 5-2003 |
Was the ship coated with some sort of residue that can be derived from the combustion of gunpowder? No. | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 34 Registered: 9-2008 |
Yeah, I had that same FA earlier...sorry! The surge affected the equipment that controls the weapons? Thereby causing the weapons to discharge? Were the weapons loaded with live ammunition at the time? Were the weapons pointed toward the land during this event? Was the substance that coated the ship previously located on the land? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 395 Registered: 5-2003 |
The surge affected the equipment that controls the weapons? Yes. Thereby causing the weapons to discharge? Yes. Were the weapons loaded with live ammunition at the time? Yes. Were the weapons pointed toward the land during this event? Irrelevant. Was the substance that coated the ship previously located on the land? You could say that, but look out for an FA. | ||
| Haenlomal (Haenlomal)
New member Username: Haenlomal Post Number: 882 Registered: 9-2003 |
Is "coated" perhaps not the most accurate of terms with regards to the substance's nature of physical contact with the ship? | ||
| Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd Post Number: 217 Registered: 6-2008 |
If the weapons had been loaded with blank ammunition, such that an explosion occurred but no object was propelled away from the ship, could the ship still have been covered in the same way? Was the substance salt? That's about the only natural substance I can think of that can be found in , on land, and in the air over the ocean (in water droplets) | ||
| Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd Post Number: 218 Registered: 6-2008 |
Sorry, that last part should read "in water, on land, and in the air..." | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 396 Registered: 5-2003 |
Is "coated" perhaps not the most accurate of terms with regards to the substance's nature of physical contact with the ship? No, it works fine. There are other terms that would work just as well. If the weapons had been loaded with blank ammunition, such that an explosion occurred but no object was propelled away from the ship, could the ship still have been covered in the same way? No. Was the substance salt? That's about the only natural substance I can think of that can be found in , on land, and in the air over the ocean (in water droplets) You have an FA, then. I had to say yes, no, or yope, and they're all a touch misleading. Perhaps I should say that this substance is not normally found in isolation (ie, something else is involved along with the substance.) It is not salt. | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1533 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is it guano? Did the surge cause an explosion, thus shocking the local albatrosses into "redecorating" the vessel? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 398 Registered: 5-2003 |
Is it guano? Did the surge cause an explosion, thus shocking the local albatrosses into "redecorating" the vessel? Explosions were caused, but birds did not piss their feathers in fright. So, no guano. | ||
| Haenlomal (Haenlomal)
New member Username: Haenlomal Post Number: 888 Registered: 9-2003 |
Is the colour of the substance that coated the ship white? black? green? blue? red? brown? purple? yellow? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 400 Registered: 5-2003 |
Is the colour of the substance that coated the ship white? black? green? blue? red? This. brown? purple? yellow? | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 37 Registered: 9-2008 |
Did the weapons strike something when they fired? If so: Fish? Birds? Other sea life? something on the land? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 401 Registered: 5-2003 |
Did the weapons strike something when they fired? Yes. If so: Fish? Birds? This. Other sea life? something on the land? No. | ||
| Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee Post Number: 38 Registered: 9-2008 |
Ick. Blood from injured birds? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 402 Registered: 5-2003 |
Ick. Blood from injured birds? Yup. **************** Spoiler ***************** Close-In-Weapons-Systems (CIWS) are commonly used today to defend ships against incoming missiles by throwing a hail of bullets or chaff in their way. Unlike, say, the Patriot missile, they are robotic and fire at airborne targets without prompting. The Dutch "Goalkeeper," used by the Royal Navy, can take on eighteen targets simultaneously. In this case, the ship was in or near a harbor. The surge activated the CIWS, which autonomously engaged the entire bird population within 500 yards. Afterwards, the ship was colored pink (with frilly patches). (Borrowed from a comedy-of-errors story on the Royal Naval Communications Association website.) Now go do my "Grit and Endurance" puzzle! | ||
| Haenlomal (Haenlomal)
New member Username: Haenlomal Post Number: 891 Registered: 9-2003 |
I'm curious...couldn't the captain have just washed off the blood instead of painting it over? Or is there a special property in the blood of birds that makes this infeasible? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 403 Registered: 5-2003 |
I dunno, maybe it stained too badly to wash off. Anyway, saying he ordered several hundred gallons of ship-washing liquid didn't sound like the best way to put the puzzle... :p | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1534 Registered: 3-2006 |
Hahahah! Great puzzle. My daft guess was so close! I live near the sea, so the gulls give my car regular resprays. :-) |
