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Okay... here is my first puzzle; I hope it is okay....

What a unique word!
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Unique in meaning? In spelling? In the content of its letters? An English word? Is any extraneous story attached, or can we guess the word simply from its properties?

Anything to do with the vowels and consonants?

Is the meaning of the word "unique" relevant?
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Unique in meaning? no In spelling? no In the content of its letters? no, but... An English word? yes Is any extraneous story attached no, or can we guess the word simply from its properties? yes

Anything to do with the vowels and consonants? yes

Is the meaning of the word "unique" relevant? no
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Wild guess, does the word have every vowel in the English language listed in the word in order?

Is the word one letter long?
Two?
Three?
Four?
Five?
Six?
Seven?
Eight?
Nine?
Ten?
More?

Does the word describe itself? As in, the word, "word?" Or something along those lines?
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Is the word unique unique?
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Wild guess, does the word have every vowel in the English language listed in the word in order? no

Is the word one letter long?
Two?
Three?
Four?
Five? this one
Six?
Seven?
Eight?
Nine?
Ten?
More?

Does the word describe itself? no
As in, the word, "word?" no Or something along those lines? no


Is the word unique unique? no
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Euouae?

Sjamboks? [actually this probably isn't strictly unique but it's prettier than the others with this property]

Mvule? Mridang? Sbirro?
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Ooops! Cross-posted. Ignore all my guesses with more than five letters, then. Sorry about that :-)
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Euouae? Sjamboks? [actually this probably isn't strictly unique but it's prettier than the others with this property] Mvule? Mridang? Sbirro? no to all
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Xerox?
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Woodworm:

Xerox? no
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Hmmm, maybe wild guesses are not the way to go. :-)

Is it a palindrome? Composed of symmetrical letters? Is it the same in a mirror? Viewed upside down? Are scrabble values relevant? Other languages relevant? Are its letters in alphabetical order? Is the QWERTY keyboard relevant at all?
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Another thought: it isn't "WHATA", is it? (Just thinking of your statement).
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Hmmm, maybe wild guesses are not the way to go. :-) :o)

Is it a palindrome? no Composed of symmetrical letters? no Is it the same in a mirror? no Viewed upside down? no Are scrabble values relevant? no Other languages relevant? no Are its letters in alphabetical order? yes Is the QWERTY keyboard relevant at all? no

Another thought: it isn't "WHATA", is it? (Just thinking of your statement). no
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Is it unique because it is the longets word with all letters in alphabetical order?

Other reason?
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Is it unique because it is the longest word with all letters in alphabetical order? no, but OTRT...

Other reason? yes
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Piggy-backing off Woodworm, is it a palindrome?
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Whoops sorry, please ignore my previous post
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Whoops sorry, please ignore my previous post. no problem! :o)
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Is the order of the letters (alphabetical) the crucial thing?
Yet there is another reason for it's uniqueness?
Is there some other pattern in the letters?
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Is the order of the letters (alphabetical) the crucial thing? yes
Yet there is another reason for it's uniqueness? yesish
Is there some other pattern in the letters? no
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Is it a commonly known word?
Or is it obscure?
Do the 5 letters run concurrently one after the other in the alphabet?
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Is it a commonly known word? yes
Or is it obscure? no
Do the 5 letters run concurrently one after the other in the alphabet? no
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ghoti?
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ghoti? no
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Shame - we'd have had three fish puzzles in a row!
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hmm this is a poser.
Is it a noun / verb / adjective?
Englsih word?
Is it rooted in another language like latin?
Is it an americanism?
modern word - coined in the last 100 years?
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Shame - we'd have had three fish puzzles in a row! - a fish that sounds like a beard!?
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Beroean - not quite sure whether you're joking :-), but for anyone who doesn't 'get it', lookee here
http://tinyurl.com/3gonle

And so as not to threadjack for too long

Is it a word that we would use everyday? Is it a verb, noun, adjective?
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Sorry!! Ignore previous thread, didn't read Beroen's!! I'll try and thik of something else
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Is it a noun / verb / adjective? adjective and noun
Englsih word? yes
Is it rooted in another language like latin? not sure, but irr
Is it an americanism? no
modern word - coined in the last 100 years? no

Is it a word that we would use everyday? yesish Is it a verb, noun, adjective?
see above
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The word comes from Middle English and Old English.... I looked it up.
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Is it a word that a child would learn very early on?
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Is it a word that a child would learn very early on? yesish
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Does it look like an old fashioned word? Is it used as a name?
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Does it look like an old fashioned word? Is it used as a name? no to both
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If I were to use a simple A=1, B=2 ... cipher, would the letters of the word form a logical sequence? An arithmetic sequence?
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If I were to use a simple A=1, B=2 ... cipher, would the letters of the word form a logical sequence? no sequence other than the one that has already been determined in a previous post

An arithmetic sequence? see previous answer
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Is there a clue in the puzzle statement?

Is it FIRST? (This would fit the bill in all respects but I can't quite figure out why it's unique: maybe the only five-letter-word with three consecutive letters of the alphabet and all letters alphabetical?)
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Is there a clue in the puzzle statement? no

Is it FIRST? no (This would fit the bill in all respects but I can't quite figure out why it's unique: maybe the only five-letter-word with three consecutive letters of the alphabet and all letters alphabetical?) the word 'first' fits the reason why the word I chose is unique in that all of the letters are in alphabetical order... what you need to do now is find the category my word fits in, and then discover the word itself.....
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Is the category a matter of language? e.g. nouns/adjectives?

Or is the category something outside of langauage? e.g. names of animals / countries etc?
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Is the category a matter of language? e.g. nouns/adjectives? no

Or is the category something outside of language? yes.... e.g. names of animals / countries etc? but neither of these
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Could I find the category that this word fits in by looking at groups of nouns?

For example:
tangible items? living things? man-made things?
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Could I find the category that this word fits in by looking at groups of nouns? yes

For example:
tangible items? yesish living things? no man-made things? yesish
I hope the 'yesish' answers are not misleading.
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Are they a type of geographic location? cities? counties?

Are they items a person could (realistically) own? that could fit in a room?
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Are they a type of geographic location? cities? counties? no to all

Are they items a person could (realistically) own? that could fit in a room? they, in and of themselves, are not tangible; examples of them can be tangible or non-tangible, so it would depend on how you wish to make them tangible; i realize this seems bizarre, so if you want to look, here is a hint: we first start learning about these either at home before we begin school, or if not, in school at our entrance level
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Well, I tried to hide the hint... it didn't work... lol! :o)
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The reason it didn't work was because it happened to be posted in a gray strip - the white always shows up in a gray strip! Next time, if you post in a white strip it will be invisible!

So are "they" more conceptual than tangible?
Are they akin to:
emotions?
manners?
facts of life?
academic knowledge?
academic skills?
examinations?
medical issues?
stages of development?
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The reason it didn't work was because it happened to be posted in a gray strip - the white always shows up in a gray strip! Next time, if you post in a white strip it will be invisible! I suspected that had something to do with it. Thanks! :o)

So are "they" more conceptual than tangible? yes
Are they akin to:
emotions?
manners?
facts of life?
academic knowledge? yes
academic skills?
examinations?
medical issues?
stages of development?
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Letters? Numbers? Colors?
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The suggestion of numbers gave me a hint: How about the number "forty", it seems like it must be the highest number to have all its letters in alphabetical order when written in words. Fifty, sixty, etc. don't work, and anything with "hundred", "thousand", or "million" in it won't work either.
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You are almost exactly right, so I will post a

************$p0i1er************
"Forty' is not the highest number, it is the ONLY number where all letters are in alphabetical order.
Thanks to all who participated in my first puzzle! :o)
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Fantastic. I just turned 40 this year and still didn't get it. Must be in denial.

Actually, "first" is the only ordinal number with letters in alphabetical order, so a consolation prize there. I was convinced that was it, because it was your first puzzle.

The simplest puzzles are the best, aren't they?

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