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Posted on Thursday, November 20, 2008 - 11:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have an alarm set to go off every morning (on weekdays) at 11:45 AM. However, I don't normally get up at 11:45, nor is there anything special I do or anywhere I go at that time that I would need a reminder of. In fact, when the alarm goes off every day, I simply shut it off and go back to doing whatever I was doing before it went off.

Why, then, do I set it?
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Is it for someone else? Anything particularly relevant about the alarm? Regular alarm clock?
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Does it scare away the albatrosses?
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Yah, but the penguins kinda like it...
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Is it for someone else? No, it's for me. Anything particularly relevant about the alarm? Just that it goes off at 11:45 AM every weekday. Regular alarm clock? Cell phone, actually, but I use it as an alarm clock.

Does it scare away the albatrosses? No.
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Are you doing an experiment where you record what you are doing at that time every weekday and then analyze the results later?

Are you always in the same place when the alarm goes off? always engaged in the same activity?

Could you potentially accomplish the same thing by setting the alarm to go off at another time, say at 1:15 PM, as long as it was consistently the same time every day?
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As another possibility I forgot to mention: Are you testing whether the alarm clock remains synchronized to some other clock, to see how well it keeps time?
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Are you doing an experiment where you record what you are doing at that time every weekday and then analyze the results later? No.

Are you always in the same place when the alarm goes off? No. always engaged in the same activity? No.

Could you potentially accomplish the same thing by setting the alarm to go off at another time, say at 1:15 PM, as long as it was consistently the same time every day? No. There IS something significant about 11:45 AM, despite the fact that I don't do anything other than turn the alarm off.

As another possibility I forgot to mention: Are you testing whether the alarm clock remains synchronized to some other clock, to see how well it keeps time? No.
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Did you set it yourself?
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Did you set it yourself? Yes.
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Did you set it for someone else?
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Did you set it for someone else? No, I set it for me.
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Do you need it to remind you of something?
Or for you to do something?

Do you do anything as a result of the alarm going off? If so, immediately? Or later? (Like: I am so absorbed in my work that I must set the alarm not to forget to have my lunch?)
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Do you need it to remind you of something? Yesish.
Or for you to do something? Yesish.

Do you do anything as a result of the alarm going off? Yes. If so, immediately? This one. Or later? (Like: I am so absorbed in my work that I must set the alarm not to forget to have my lunch?) But not this.
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I am a little confused. In the statement you say there is nothing special you do when the alarm goes off, then you say you do something as a result of the alarm going off. Which is it?
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I am a little confused. In the statement you say there is nothing special you do when the alarm goes off, then you say you do something as a result of the alarm going off. Which is it? There is something I do, but it's very subtle, and I do it as I turn the alarm off. I hope that doesn't give too much away. Sorry about the confusion.
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Do you take medicine?
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Do you take medicine? Not when the alarm goes off.
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Do you check the time?
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Do you check the time? No, I know what the time is (it's the same time every morning), but I do check something else.
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Do you check to see if you still have a pulse?
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do you confirm that something has happened? do you confirm that something hasn't happened?

do you do a physical activity? or something more mental?

does the act of stoping the alarm server to do something else? since the alrm is in your cell phone does it cause you to check your phone for calls? turn the volume down on your phone?

does this work just as well if the alarm wasn't on your cell?
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do you confirm that something has happened? do you confirm that something hasn't happened? This is closest.

do you do a physical activity? This is closest. or something more mental?

does the act of stoping the alarm server to do something else? Essentially since the alrm is in your cell phone does it cause you to check your phone for calls? No, but somewhat OTRT. Explore. turn the volume down on your phone? No.

does this work just as well if the alarm wasn't on your cell? It would work on some regular alarm clocks, but only ones with a certain feature that my cell phone alarm also has.
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Would it have to be audible to serve this purpose? Or could you have it vibrate, assuming you would be able to feel it?
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Would it have to be audible to serve this purpose? Or could you have it vibrate, assuming you would be able to feel it? If I could feel it, it could work, but in the situation where I would actually use the alarm, I wouldn't want to keep a phone in my pocket.
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Would this be for comfort? Because you would be coming into contact with flammable fluids? Would there risk of damage to the phone? Are you usually streaking at the time?

The certain feature is...
(checks own alarm clock for features)
The ability to have it repeat each weekday at the same time?
The ability to choose what style of alarm you would like?
The ability to have a buzzer? or some radio station?
Snooze?
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Would this be for comfort? Essentially. Because you would be coming into contact with flammable fluids? Would there risk of damage to the phone? Are you usually streaking at the time? No to rest.

The certain feature is...
(checks own alarm clock for features)
The ability to have it repeat each weekday at the same time? This is one such feature, although not the one I was thinking of when I wrote that clue.
The ability to choose what style of alarm you would like?
The ability to have a buzzer? or some radio station?
Snooze? No to rest. There's another significant feature that you haven't mentioned yet.
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Hmmm... I guess my alarm doesn't have it?

Is there a significant reason why you only do this on weekdays? Are weekends not "gangstah" enough?
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Hmmm... I guess my alarm doesn't have it? Most cell phone alarms do. Keep trying.

Is there a significant reason why you only do this on weekdays? Semi-significant, yes. Are weekends not "gangstah" enough? No, that's not it.
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Hmm... I guess I'll have to check my ghetto "cell phone".
Select? Back? New Entry? Datebook? Go to Today? Setup? Event detail? Start time? Duration? Date? Repeat? Alarm? 1 hour before? Custom? Calculator? Exchange rate? Stop watch? (I don't even think these are related to the alarm anymore. Oh well...) Lantern? Fixed dial? Service dial? Wallpaper? Screen saver? Ring styles? alert? Loud ring? Soft ring? Vibrate? Vibrate then ring? Silent?
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Hmm... I guess I'll have to check my ghetto "cell phone".
Select? Back? New Entry? Datebook? Go to Today? Setup? Event detail? Start time? Duration? Date? Repeat? Alarm? 1 hour before? Custom? Calculator? Exchange rate? Stop watch? (I don't even think these are related to the alarm anymore. Oh well...) Lantern? Fixed dial? Service dial? Wallpaper? Screen saver? Ring styles? alert? Loud ring? Soft ring? Vibrate? Vibrate then ring? Silent? I'm sorry to say, it's none of these. It's not really a "feature" in that sense. It's actually something very simple--probably something that many people would take for granted on a cell phone with an alarm. Some regular alarm clocks have it as well, although there are many that don't.
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Synchronization with an atomic clock?
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Synchronization with an atomic clock? No. The feature specifically has to do with the ALARM part of the phone.
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Using a variable pitch? Volume? Automatically adjusting to the frequency of any sound waves currently in the vicinity in order to cancel the waves out with inverse waves? Different frequency waves?
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Do you utilize this feature? Before the alarm goes off? When it goes off? When you turn it off? Afterwards? Does my alarm clock have this feature? Would this feature be the key selling point in an alarm clock? If it didn't have this feature, it would not fulfill the purpose that is currently fulfilled by your cell phone alarm now? Does a Swiss Army Knife have this feature?
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Using a variable pitch? Volume? Automatically adjusting to the frequency of any sound waves currently in the vicinity in order to cancel the waves out with inverse waves? Different frequency waves? None of these. It's MUCH simpler than this.

Do you utilize this feature? Yes. Before the alarm goes off? This one. When it goes off? When you turn it off? Afterwards? Does my alarm clock have this feature? I'd have to see your alarm clock to know. Would this feature be the key selling point in an alarm clock? No. It's not even that special, really. If it didn't have this feature, it would not fulfill the purpose that is currently fulfilled by your cell phone alarm now? I could still use it for MOST of what I do with the phone alarm, but there are certain things I couldn't do, and I WOULDN'T set the 11:45 alarm as referenced in the puzzle statement. Does a Swiss Army Knife have this feature? No.
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If it didn't have this feature, would you set it for 1:15 PM?
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If it didn't have this feature, would you set it for 1:15 PM? I would set it for any of various other times, depending on the day of the week. But I would do that anyway.
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anyway?
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anyway? I would have an alarm set for the other time AND one set for 11:45 AM (this is the crucial feature, by the way: the ability to have multiple alarms set simultaneously).
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HINT: Now you know multiple alarms are involved. Try and figure out WHY I would have more than one alarm set and how that relates to the 11:45 AM alarm.
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are you diabetic and check your blood sugar?
another medical condition?
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are you diabetic and check your blood sugar? No.
another medical condition? Nothing like that.
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So the other alarms are related to this puzzle as well?

I guess I was assuming just that you had one alarm for the "normal" purpose of waking you up, and then the 11:45 alarm for the puzzle-worthy purpose, and that the relevance of the multi-alarm feature was just to spare you the inconvenience of changing the alarm setting twice a day.
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So the other alarms are related to this puzzle as well? Yes.

I guess I was assuming just that you had one alarm for the "normal" purpose of waking you up, and then the 11:45 alarm for the puzzle-worthy purpose, and that the relevance of the multi-alarm feature was just to spare you the inconvenience of changing the alarm setting twice a day. Yope. I would not set the 11:45 alarm AT ALL if I could not have it and the other alarm set simultaneously. I would have no reason to.
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Do both the alarms sound at the same time? Is the noise they make relevant?
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Do both the alarms sound at the same time? No. Is the noise they make relevant? No.
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Is it relevant what time the other alarm is set for?
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Is it relevant what time the other alarm is set for? Yesish.
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Is the other alarm set for a time before this one? After?
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Is the other alarm set for a time before this one? Sometimes. After? Sometimes, but this is the one that's significant.
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Do you perform a relevant action for the duration of time between the first and second alarms? avoid performing an action?

Is the second alarm always at the same time of day?
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Do you perform a relevant action for the duration of time between the first and second alarms? Yope. avoid performing an action? Noish.

Is the second alarm always at the same time of day? No, but the first alarm is only useful when the second alarm is later than the first.
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HINT: Look back at my post made on November 21 at 11:10 AM, and think about what my answers in that post could mean in light of what you now know about the multiple alarms.
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Could you accomplish whatever you do when you turn the 11:45 AM alarm off without actually turning the alarm off? Or is turning the alarm off a necessary prerequisite?
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Could you accomplish whatever you do when you turn the 11:45 AM alarm off without actually turning the alarm off? No. Or is turning the alarm off a necessary prerequisite? Yes it is, but don't jump to too many conclusions there.
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If one weekday your 11:45 AM malfunctioned and never sounded, would you be greatly upset? Would you lose a lot of money? Get injured? Die?
What if the 11:45 alarm actually sounded at 11:44? 11:46? 12:00 PM?
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If one weekday your 11:45 AM malfunctioned and never sounded, would you be greatly upset? Not unless another thing also went wrong. Would you lose a lot of money? No. Get injured? No. Die? No.
What if the 11:45 alarm actually sounded at 11:44? Exactly the same. 11:46? Likewise.12:00 PM? Ditto, but there's a reason I would prefer to set the alarm for 11:45 than for noon (but it's not hugely relevant to the puzzle, so don't get fixated on it.)
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Are you ensuring the battery is charged?
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Is snooze relevant?
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Is it relevant that the display also lights up?
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Are you ensuring the battery is charged? No, but good thinking.

Is snooze relevant? No.

Is it relevant that the display also lights up? No.

HINT: Figure out the reason why I have the OTHER alarm set.
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When the other alarm sounds, do you:
perform one or more momentary actions (e.g. check email, open a window)?
begin to perform an ongoing action (e.g. tune in to listen to a particular radio program)?
stop performing an ongoing action?

Is the fact that these are audible alarms relevant? In other words, would it work if you were at your computer and you had somehow set a window to pop up on the screen at 11:45 and the other time?
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When the other alarm sounds, do you:
perform one or more momentary actions (e.g. check email, open a window) Yes, but not one of the ones you listed.
begin to perform an ongoing action (e.g. tune in to listen to a particular radio program)? Yope. Normally, I resume doing whatever ongoing action I was doing before the alarm went off, as soon as I've finished my momentary action.
stop performing an ongoing action? No.

Is the fact that these are audible alarms relevant? Yes. In other words, would it work if you were at your computer and you had somehow set a window to pop up on the screen at 11:45 and the other time? No. I wouldn't BE at my computer, so this wouldn't work.
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Do you perform the same momentary action at each alarm?

Is the action at the later alarm physical? purely mental (e.g. taking note of something about your surroundings)?
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Do you perform the same momentary action at each alarm? Only if the second alarm is LATER than the first.

Is the action at the later alarm physical? This one, but see above: The second alarm is not ALWAYS later than 11:45; usually it's earlier. purely mental (e.g. taking note of something about your surroundings)? No.
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When the second alarm is later, is it because you intentionally set it to be so? or is the second alarm set somehow to sound at random? (I ask because you always describe the time of the alarm passively, as if it just happens to be later on some days than on others).

Assuming you set the second alarm on purpose to be later on some days and earlier on others, does the 11:45 alarm serve ANY purpose on those days when you set the second alarm to be earlier?
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