| Author | Message | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1090 Registered: 12-2004 |
A gate opens. A man dies. Early $P01L3R$ please email. | ||
| Scood (Scood)
New member Username: Scood Post Number: 3 Registered: 11-2008 |
does the gate have anything to do with the mans death? does the man have any imparments. was there any criminal acts is the title relevent | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1157 Registered: 12-2004 |
Scood: does the gate have anything to do with the mans death? Indeed does the man have any imparments. Nothing unusual was there any criminal acts Nope is the title relevent Only inasmuch as I consider this to be a classic puzzle, yet I found no reference to it anywhere. | ||
| Scood (Scood)
New member Username: Scood Post Number: 7 Registered: 11-2008 |
did the gate cause something to happen to the man | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1159 Registered: 12-2004 |
Scood: did the gate cause something to happen to the man Indeed, it caused death to happen to the man. | ||
| Scood (Scood)
New member Username: Scood Post Number: 9 Registered: 11-2008 |
was the man reliant on the gate being closed? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1163 Registered: 12-2004 |
Scood: was the man reliant on the gate being closed? He was | ||
| Scood (Scood)
New member Username: Scood Post Number: 12 Registered: 11-2008 |
did the man touch the gate. was the gate blocking something was the gate outside. inside? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1166 Registered: 12-2004 |
Scood: did the man touch the gate. Almost certainly was the gate blocking something Yes was the gate outside. This inside? | ||
| Scood (Scood)
New member Username: Scood Post Number: 15 Registered: 11-2008 |
did the man know what it was blocking was the gate holding an animal | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1167 Registered: 12-2004 |
Scood: did the man know what it was blocking Yes was the gate holding an animal No | ||
| Scood (Scood)
New member Username: Scood Post Number: 18 Registered: 11-2008 |
did the man open the gate himself | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1172 Registered: 12-2004 |
Scood: did the man open the gate himself Most likely | ||
| Scood (Scood)
New member Username: Scood Post Number: 20 Registered: 11-2008 |
did the man need to get anything that was on the other side of the gate? is the gate a gate? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1178 Registered: 12-2004 |
Scood: did the man need to get anything that was on the other side of the gate? FA is the gate a gate? Strictly speaking, yes | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 241 Registered: 9-2008 |
Is the FA that the gate actually had an "other side"? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1216 Registered: 12-2004 |
Rcs: Is the FA that the gate actually had an "other side"? Not quite | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 244 Registered: 9-2008 |
Is the gate a computer logic gate? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1219 Registered: 12-2004 |
Rcs: Is the gate a computer logic gate? No, but you are in the right forest. (Don't Fear) this puzzle. It is nearly solved. | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 246 Registered: 9-2008 |
Airport gate? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1222 Registered: 12-2004 |
Rcs: Airport gate? Nope | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 247 Registered: 9-2008 |
Any of these definitions of "gate" apply (Courtesty of Dictionary.com)? 1. a movable barrier, usually on hinges, closing an opening in a fence, wall, or other enclosure. 2. an opening permitting passage through an enclosure. 3. a tower, architectural setting, etc., for defending or adorning such an opening or for providing a monumental entrance to a street, park, etc.: the gates of the walled city; the palace gate. 4. any means of access or entrance: The gate to stardom is talent. 5. a mountain pass. 6. any movable barrier, as at a tollbooth or a road or railroad crossing. 7. a gateway or passageway in a passenger terminal or pier that leads to a place for boarding a train, plane, or ship. 8. a sliding barrier for regulating the passage of water, steam, or the like, as in a dam or pipe; valve. 9. Skiing. a. an obstacle in a slalom race, consisting of two upright poles anchored in the snow a certain distance apart. b. the opening between these poles, through which a competitor in a slalom race must ski. 10. the total number of persons who pay for admission to an athletic contest, a performance, an exhibition, etc. 11. the total receipts from such admissions. 12. Cell Biology. a temporary channel in a cell membrane through which substances diffuse into or out of a cell. 13. Movies. film gate. 14. a sash or frame for a saw or gang of saws. 15. Metallurgy. a. Also called ingate. a channel or opening in a mold through which molten metal is poured into the mold cavity. b. the waste metal left in such a channel after hardening. 16. Electronics. a. a signal that makes an electronic circuit operative or inoperative either for a certain time interval or until another signal is received. b. Also called logic gate. a circuit with one output that is activated only by certain combinations of two or more inputs. | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1223 Registered: 12-2004 |
Rcs: Any of these definitions of "gate" apply (Courtesty of Dictionary.com)? 1. a movable barrier, usually on hinges, closing an opening in a fence, wall, or other enclosure. 2. an opening permitting passage through an enclosure. 3. a tower, architectural setting, etc., for defending or adorning such an opening or for providing a monumental entrance to a street, park, etc.: the gates of the walled city; the palace gate. 4. any means of access or entrance: The gate to stardom is talent. 5. a mountain pass. 6. any movable barrier, as at a tollbooth or a road or railroad crossing. This is probably closest 7. a gateway or passageway in a passenger terminal or pier that leads to a place for boarding a train, plane, or ship. 8. a sliding barrier for regulating the passage of water, steam, or the like, as in a dam or pipe; valve. 9. Skiing. a. an obstacle in a slalom race, consisting of two upright poles anchored in the snow a certain distance apart. b. the opening between these poles, through which a competitor in a slalom race must ski. 10. the total number of persons who pay for admission to an athletic contest, a performance, an exhibition, etc. 11. the total receipts from such admissions. 12. Cell Biology. a temporary channel in a cell membrane through which substances diffuse into or out of a cell. 13. Movies. film gate. 14. a sash or frame for a saw or gang of saws. 15. Metallurgy. a. Also called ingate. a channel or opening in a mold through which molten metal is poured into the mold cavity. b. the waste metal left in such a channel after hardening. 16. Electronics. a. a signal that makes an electronic circuit operative or inoperative either for a certain time interval or until another signal is received. b. Also called logic gate. a circuit with one output that is activated only by certain combinations of two or more inputs. | ||
| D_gordon (D_gordon)
New member Username: D_gordon Post Number: 13 Registered: 11-2008 |
Are tollbooths relevant? Roads? Railroad crossings? Albatrosses? Was the gate keeping the man out? Keeping the man in? Keeping something else out? Keeping something else in? I don't think there's an LTPF cause of death list, but with the frequency of death in these puzzles, there really should be. So did the man die by... Poison? Blood loss? Physical (not chemical, as with poison) organ damage? Suffocation? Infection? Heart attack/failure? Decapitation? Electrocution? Suicide? Murder? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1233 Registered: 12-2004 |
D_gordon: Are tollbooths relevant? No Roads? No Railroad crossings? No Albatrosses? Not in a way significant enough to consider the answer to this question to be anything but "no", but good question Was the gate keeping the man out? No Keeping the man in? No Keeping something else out? No Keeping something else in? Yes I don't think there's an LTPF cause of death list, but with the frequency of death in these puzzles, there really should be. There was a general one at one point... So did the man die by... Poison? No Blood loss? No Physical (not chemical, as with poison) organ damage? Possibly Suffocation? No Infection? No Heart attack/failure? No Decapitation? Probably not Electrocution? No Suicide? No Murder? No | ||
| D_gordon (D_gordon)
New member Username: D_gordon Post Number: 18 Registered: 11-2008 |
We've already established that the gate was not keeping an animal in. Was the gate keeping a machine in? Was the gate keeping water in? Was a dam involved? Did the man intend to open the gate? Did whatever the gate was keeping in directly cause the man's death? | ||
| Vagary (Vagary)
New member Username: Vagary Post Number: 114 Registered: 11-2008 |
Did he commit seppuku, opening the gate that was his midsection (using a sharp, clean tool, for safety's sake) and allowing the warm and slimy innards to spew forth? Is that how he died? Did he open a wrought-iron rusted gate, cut his finger, get tetanus and die? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1237 Registered: 12-2004 |
D_Gordon: We've already established that the gate was not keeping an animal in. Was the gate keeping a machine in? What's a machine? Was the gate keeping water in? No Was a dam involved? No Did the man intend to open the gate? No Did whatever the gate was keeping in directly cause the man's death? Noish Vagary: Did he commit seppuku, opening the gate that was his midsection (using a sharp, clean tool, for safety's sake) and allowing the warm and slimy innards to spew forth? Nope Is that how he died? Nope Did he open a wrought-iron rusted gate, cut his finger, get tetanus and die? No HINT: You might want to consider what he was doing at the time. | ||
| Vagary (Vagary)
New member Username: Vagary Post Number: 119 Registered: 11-2008 |
Location relevant? Occupation? Man's age relevant? True story? Fictional puzzle? Was the man alone? Is the gate an actual gate along the lines of, say, a gate to a fenced-off area? ...is it an actual doorway? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1240 Registered: 12-2004 |
Vagary: Location relevant? Yes Occupation? No Man's age relevant? No True story? I don't believe so Fictional puzzle? Yes Was the man alone? Yes Is the gate an actual gate along the lines of, say, a gate to a fenced-off area? No, see above post 1223 posted on Sunday, November 23, 2008 - 5:12 pm ...is it an actual doorway? No | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1241 Registered: 12-2004 |
Actually, definition 2 could apply, for SVV of "enclosure". | ||
| Vagary (Vagary)
New member Username: Vagary Post Number: 120 Registered: 11-2008 |
is the gate part of the man's body? more of an intangible concept of a gate? example: Fred took LSD and opened his gate to higher awareness and consciousness | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1243 Registered: 12-2004 |
Vagary: is the gate part of the man's body? No more of an intangible concept of a gate? No example: Fred took LSD and opened his gate to higher awareness and consciousness Nope | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1244 Registered: 12-2004 |
Try to consider this puzzle like the kind on the classics thread. | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 251 Registered: 9-2008 |
What is the weight (mass) of this gate? Nothing? less than a microgram? a gram? a kilogram? a ton? a hundred tons? more than that? | ||
| D_gordon (D_gordon)
New member Username: D_gordon Post Number: 42 Registered: 11-2008 |
Did what the gate was keeping in directly cause the man's death? Was it something manmade? Is radioactivity relevant? Was this man the only one to die because of the opening of the gate? | ||
| Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg Post Number: 629 Registered: 8-2005 |
Was the man driving at any time during the events of this puzzle? | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 255 Registered: 9-2008 |
Is the man anywhere near the gate? Can he see it? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1257 Registered: 12-2004 |
Rcs: What is the weight (mass) of this gate? Shh! It's a secret! Nothing? Nope less than a microgram? Nope a gram? Not quite a kilogram? Probably somewhere between a gram and a kilogram a ton? Not a ton a hundred tons? Not a hundred tons, either more than that? Nope D_gordon: Did what the gate was keeping in directly cause the man's death? Noish Was it something manmade? Yes Is radioactivity relevant? No Was this man the only one to die because of the opening of the gate? Yes Martinfg: Was the man driving at any time during the events of this puzzle? No Rcs: Is the man anywhere near the gate? Yes Can he see it? Yes | ||
| Vagary (Vagary)
New member Username: Vagary Post Number: 139 Registered: 11-2008 |
Was the man burned to death? (steam/fire) | ||
| Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg Post Number: 633 Registered: 8-2005 |
Was he playing a game? | ||
| Erinye (Erinye)
New member Username: Erinye Post Number: 25 Registered: 11-2008 |
Is the cake a lie? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1263 Registered: 12-2004 |
Vagary: Was the man burned to death? (steam/fire) Nope Martinfg: Was he playing a game? Nope Erinye Is the cake a lie? I'm not sure to what cake you are referring. There is no dessert relevant to this puzzle. | ||
| Vagary (Vagary)
New member Username: Vagary Post Number: 142 Registered: 11-2008 |
Erinye, the cake is always a lie. ;) Is the gate larger than a loaf of bread? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1281 Registered: 12-2004 |
Vagary: Erinye, the cake is always a lie. ;) Why has no one told me about this cake?! :-] Is the gate larger than a loaf of bread? Nope, probably not | ||
| D_gordon (D_gordon)
New member Username: D_gordon Post Number: 59 Registered: 11-2008 |
Because it's a lie. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal_(video_game) Is the gate larger than a slice of bread? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1283 Registered: 12-2004 |
D_gordon: Is the gate larger than a slice of bread? Eh, probably not. I don't care enough to find out for sure. Does this mean I don't really get a cake? | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 261 Registered: 9-2008 |
Is the gate used to restrain an animal? An electric fence for a dog? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1359 Registered: 12-2004 |
Rcs: Is the gate used to restrain an animal? No An electric fence for a dog? Nope. You're still on the wrong track. | ||
| Vagary (Vagary)
New member Username: Vagary Post Number: 171 Registered: 11-2008 |
Is the gate holding back a liquid? Something solid? Inanimate? Did whatever the gate is holding back kill the man? ..or the opening of the gate itself? Was the man doing something dangerous before opening the gate? Was he enjoying himself? Was he doing his job? Does (did) he open the gate with his hands? With a tool? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1448 Registered: 12-2004 |
Vagary: Is the gate holding back a liquid? No Something solid? Yes Inanimate? Yes Did whatever the gate is holding back kill the man? No ..or the opening of the gate itself? Yesish Was the man doing something dangerous before opening the gate? Yes Was he enjoying himself? Yes Was he doing his job? No Does (did) he open the gate with his hands? Probably With a tool? Probably not | ||
| Vagary (Vagary)
New member Username: Vagary Post Number: 176 Registered: 11-2008 |
Did opening the gate cause him to lose his balance and fall from something? A ladder, perhaps? Was he doing some sort of leisure activity when this happened? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1455 Registered: 12-2004 |
Vagary: Did opening the gate cause him to lose his balance and fall from something? Strictly speaking, no A ladder, perhaps? No Was he doing some sort of leisure activity when this happened? You might call it that. | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 275 Registered: 9-2008 |
Is the gate made of metal? wood? plastic? glass? something else? Is that something animal? vegetable? mineral? none of these? Is the gate even made of ordinary matter? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1490 Registered: 12-2004 |
Rcs: Is the gate made of metal? This one, probably an alloy of aluminum. wood? plastic? glass? something else? No to rest Is that something What something? animal? vegetable? mineral? none of these? Is the gate even made of ordinary matter? Yep | ||
| D_gordon (D_gordon)
New member Username: D_gordon Post Number: 87 Registered: 11-2008 |
I think "something" referred to the thing the gate was keeping in. Is the man a pilot? Did he die by plane crash? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1502 Registered: 12-2004 |
D_gordon: I think "something" referred to the thing the gate was keeping in. O RLY? Is the man a pilot? No Did he die by plane crash? Nope | ||
| D_gordon (D_gordon)
New member Username: D_gordon Post Number: 90 Registered: 11-2008 |
Did the man fall to his death? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1503 Registered: 12-2004 |
D_gordon: Did the man fall to his death? Yes | ||
| D_gordon (D_gordon)
New member Username: D_gordon Post Number: 92 Registered: 11-2008 |
Is skydiving or a similar sport relevant? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1504 Registered: 12-2004 |
D_gordon: Is skydiving or a similar sport relevant? Sky diving is not relevant, nor is another other sport in which one parachutes. | ||
| D_gordon (D_gordon)
New member Username: D_gordon Post Number: 94 Registered: 11-2008 |
About what distance did the man (who stunningly is still unnamed...let's say Joe) fall? Less than 10 feet? 30 feet? 50 feet? 100 feet? 1000 feet? 10000 feet? More than that? Was Joe in an airplane at any time during the events of the puzzle? Are high-rise buildings relevant? Mountains? Volcanoes? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1505 Registered: 12-2004 |
D_gordon: About what distance did the man (who stunningly is still unnamed...let's say Joe) fall? Less than 10 feet? 30 feet? 50 feet? 100 feet? 1000 feet? 10000 feet? More than that? Far enough that the impact would surely kill him, but most likely less than 29,029 ft. Was Joe in an airplane at any time during the events of the puzzle? No Are high-rise buildings relevant? No Mountains? Yes Volcanoes? Whether or not volcanoes are relevant is irrelevant, if that makes any sense. | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 281 Registered: 9-2008 |
29,029 ft? That's the height of Mt. Everest, isn't it? Was he trying to climb Mt. Everest? And somehow he fell? Did something go wrong with his climbing gear/equipment? | ||
| D_gordon (D_gordon)
New member Username: D_gordon Post Number: 95 Registered: 11-2008 |
Actually, Peppa, people have fallen at terminal velocity and lived -- though usually this involves them falling into trees. I think Rcs has it, except that whether it's Everest or not is probably irrelevant -- it's just that Everest is the highest mountain on Earth, so he couldn't have fallen from higher than that. So -- did Joe open the thing (I don't know the word for it) that kept a rope supporting him attached to the face he was climbing? Then fail to reattach it where he wanted to put it and fall to his death? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 1510 Registered: 12-2004 |
Rcs: 29,029 ft? That's the height of Mt. Everest, isn't it? I don't know. Was he trying to climb Mt. Everest? I don't know. And somehow he fell? I don't know. Did something go wrong with his climbing gear/equipment? I don't know. D_gordon: Actually, Peppa, people have fallen at terminal velocity and lived -- though usually this involves them falling into trees. Well, not this guy. I think Rcs has it, except that whether it's Everest or not is probably irrelevant -- it's just that Everest is the highest mountain on Earth, so he couldn't have fallen from higher than that. That works. So -- did Joe open the thing (I don't know the word for it) that kept a rope supporting him attached to the face he was climbing? I don't know. Then fail to reattach it where he wanted to put it and fall to his death? I don't know. ******************SPOILER***************** The man was rock climbing. The gate (the moving barrier on a hinge) on the carabiner that was holding whatever it was holding opened, and he fell. |
