| Author | Message | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 672 Registered: 12-2007 |
He died. Alberto moved. | ||
| Howardwoman (Howardwoman)
New member Username: Howardwoman Post Number: 284 Registered: 1-2008 |
Moved as in changed position of his body? Moved as in left his residence? | ||
| Kalira (Kalira)
New member Username: Kalira Post Number: 22 Registered: 2-2009 |
He = Alberto? He = H? A? M? Alberto = H? A? M? Died as in ceased to breathe and have brain function? Anything to do with vision problems? Seeing into the future? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 673 Registered: 12-2007 |
Howardwoman: Moved as in changed position of his body? Moved as in left his residence? This. Kalira: He = Alberto? No. He = H? A? M? Yes, yes, yes. Alberto = H? A? M? Yes, yes, irrelevant. Died as in ceased to breathe and have brain function? Yep. Anything to do with vision problems? No. Seeing into the future? Rephrase this one, please. | ||
| Bolapara (Bolapara)
New member Username: Bolapara Post Number: 314 Registered: 12-2008 |
Alberto moved to his house? Moved because the decaying corpse made living in his residence unbearable? Moved because "he" was in charge of Alberto's residence - landlord, responsible for rent, etc? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 674 Registered: 12-2007 |
Alberto moved to his house? Moved because the decaying corpse made living in his residence unbearable? Moved because "he" was in charge of Alberto's residence - landlord, responsible for rent, etc? No to all. | ||
| Finno (Finno)
New member Username: Finno Post Number: 43 Registered: 2-2009 |
He and Alberto were living in the same house before? Was 'he' killed? How did 'he' die? Is than relevant? Poisoning? Natural death? How was 'he' related to alberto? Brother? Father? Son in law? Father in law? Uncle? Only a friend? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 677 Registered: 12-2007 |
He and Alberto were living in the same house before? No. Was 'he' killed? Irrelevant. How did 'he' die? Is than relevant? Poisoning? Natural death? Irrelevant. How was 'he' related to alberto? Brother? Father? Son in law? Father in law? Uncle? Only a friend? None of these. | ||
| Finno (Finno)
New member Username: Finno Post Number: 46 Registered: 2-2009 |
Were he and alberto neighbours? did alberto moved too far away? changed cities? countries? continents? | ||
| Kalira (Kalira)
New member Username: Kalira Post Number: 32 Registered: 2-2009 |
Hmm... Trying to rephrase correctly... Anything to do with being able to anticipate what's going to happen? Something to do with having good judgement? Legal system relevant? Is Alberto a judge? lawyer? Is "he" (can "he" be given a name?) a judge? lawyer? Did "he" and Alberto know each other? Were they (I'm trying to start a new LTPF list here [if there isn't one for interpersonal relationships already]) family? spouses? in a relationship? lovers? friends? coworkers? boss and employee? client and contractor? members of the same social group/club/organization? neighbors? acquaintances? total strangers? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 678 Registered: 12-2007 |
Finno: Were he and alberto neighbours? No, but... did alberto moved too far away? Too far with respect to what? changed cities? Yes. countries? No. continents? No. Kalira: Anything to do with being able to anticipate what's going to happen? Yes. Something to do with having good judgement? No-ish. Legal system relevant? No. Is Alberto a judge? lawyer? Irrelevant, actually. Is "he" (can "he" be given a name? Yope.) a judge? lawyer? No to both. Did "he" and Alberto know each other? Yope. Were they (I'm trying to start a new LTPF list here [if there isn't one for interpersonal relationships already]) family? spouses? in a relationship? lovers? friends? coworkers? boss and employee? client and contractor? members of the same social group/club/organization? Yope, for svv of social group. neighbors? acquaintances? total strangers? Yes-ish to this one, and no to rest. | ||
| Finno (Finno)
New member Username: Finno Post Number: 47 Registered: 2-2009 |
Was alberto sad about his death? Did he change cities because he wanted to get away from the memories? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 679 Registered: 12-2007 |
Was alberto sad about his death? Irrelevant. Did he change cities because he wanted to get away from the memories? No. | ||
| Howardwoman (Howardwoman)
New member Username: Howardwoman Post Number: 285 Registered: 1-2008 |
Did Alberto feel threatened in any way? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 680 Registered: 12-2007 |
Did Alberto feel threatened in any way? Yes-ish. | ||
| Howardwoman (Howardwoman)
New member Username: Howardwoman Post Number: 286 Registered: 1-2008 |
Ghosts/spirits relevant? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 681 Registered: 12-2007 |
Ghosts/spirits relevant? No. | ||
| Liquizt (Liquizt)
New member Username: Liquizt Post Number: 640 Registered: 5-2008 |
Alberto knew him when he was alive? Was Alberto moving specifically TO somewhere? or AWAY from somewhere? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 682 Registered: 12-2007 |
Alberto knew him when he was alive? Yes-ish, but... Was Alberto moving specifically TO somewhere? or AWAY from somewhere? This one, good question. | ||
| Finno (Finno)
New member Username: Finno Post Number: 52 Registered: 2-2009 |
Were Alberto and he part of a gang/group? He was a criminal? Alberto was a criminal? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 683 Registered: 12-2007 |
Were Alberto and he part of a gang/group? He was a criminal? Alberto was a criminal? No to all. | ||
| Kalira (Kalira)
New member Username: Kalira Post Number: 41 Registered: 2-2009 |
Did Alberto think that he was going to be suspected in "he"'s death? Did he think the police would want to question him in the matter? Were they both members of an Anonymous group (Alcoholics Anonymous, Narcotics Anonymous, etc.)? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 685 Registered: 12-2007 |
Did Alberto think that he was going to be suspected in "he"'s death? Did he think the police would want to question him in the matter? Were they both members of an Anonymous group (Alcoholics Anonymous, Narcotics Anonymous, etc.)? No to all. | ||
| Lporter229 (Lporter229)
New member Username: Lporter229 Post Number: 349 Registered: 11-2007 |
Did Alberto move because he feared for his safety? For financial reasons? employment? Race/ethnicity relevant? religion? Is Alberto's occupation relevant? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 688 Registered: 12-2007 |
Did Alberto move because he feared for his safety? Yes. For financial reasons? Yes-ish. employment? Yope. Race/ethnicity relevant? No. religion? Yes. Is Alberto's occupation relevant? No. | ||
| Lporter229 (Lporter229)
New member Username: Lporter229 Post Number: 351 Registered: 11-2007 |
Was "he" Christian? Jewish? Muslim? Buddhist? Hindu? other? Was Alberto Christian? Jewish? Muslim? Buddhist? Hindu? other? Was "he" a religious leader? was Alberto? Was "he" famous? on a local level? larger level?was Alberto? Is the city where he moved from relevant? the city where he moved to? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 690 Registered: 12-2007 |
Was "he" Christian? This one. Jewish? Muslim? Buddhist? Hindu? other? Was Alberto Christian? This one too. Jewish? Muslim? Buddhist? Hindu? other? Was "he" a religious leader? Yes. was Alberto? No. Was "he" famous? Yes. on a local level? larger level? This. was Alberto? No. Is the city where he moved from relevant? Yes. the city where he moved to? No. Superb Q's. | ||
| Lporter229 (Lporter229)
New member Username: Lporter229 Post Number: 353 Registered: 11-2007 |
Were they Catholic? Was "he" a priest? Bishop? Cardinal? Pope? Century during which this took place relevant? pre-15th? 15th? 16th? 17th? 18th? 19th? 20th? 21st? Any relation to a historical event? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 698 Registered: 12-2007 |
Were they Catholic? Yes. Was "he" a priest? Bishop? Cardinal? Pope? This. Century during which this took place relevant? Yes. pre-15th? 15th? 16th? 17th? 18th? 19th? 20th? 21st? This. Any relation to a historical event? Yes, for svv of history. | ||
| Lporter229 (Lporter229)
New member Username: Lporter229 Post Number: 355 Registered: 11-2007 |
So, is "he" Pope John Paul II? Is the city from which Alberto moved in Europe? Asia? N. America? S. America? other? Did the death of the Pope lead to political changes in the city where Alberto lived? was there an uprising? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 699 Registered: 12-2007 |
So, is "he" Pope John Paul II? Nope. Is the city from which Alberto moved in Europe? This. Asia? N. America? S. America? other? Did the death of the Pope lead to political changes in the city where Alberto lived? No. was there an uprising? No. | ||
| Lporter229 (Lporter229)
New member Username: Lporter229 Post Number: 356 Registered: 11-2007 |
Did Alberto move immediately following his death? Did "he" (mind if we call him "Pope"?) live in the Vatican when he died? at any time during his life? (please excuse this obvious line of questioning...just a little confused and trying to eliminate some possibilities!) | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 700 Registered: 12-2007 |
Did Alberto move immediately following his death? Let's say within months. Did "he" (mind if we call him "Pope"? 'course not.) live in the Vatican when he died? at any time during his life? Yes to both. (please excuse this obvious line of questioning...just a little confused and trying to eliminate some possibilities!) No worries. Mind my "for svv of history". | ||
| Lporter229 (Lporter229)
New member Username: Lporter229 Post Number: 357 Registered: 11-2007 |
Is the historical event just that he was a Pope and he died? or is it something more than that? Did Alberto move because of his death? because of something that happened following his death? Did Alberto know that he would be moving following Pope's death, even before Pope died? Did Pope know Alberto? know of Alberto? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 723 Registered: 12-2007 |
Is the historical event just that he was a Pope and he died? That's part of it, but at this point I should probably flag a FA about the use of "historical". If you can't sort out its nature within a few posts, don't worry, I'll give it to you. or is it something more than that? Yes. Did Alberto move because of his death? Indirectly. because of something that happened following his death? Agh. Tough one. Yes-ish to yope. Did Alberto know that he would be moving following Pope's death, even before Pope died? Yes. Did Pope know Alberto? know of Alberto? No to both or irrelevant. | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 581 Registered: 5-2007 |
Are these actual events? or fictional events? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 726 Registered: 12-2007 |
Are these actual events? No. or fictional events? Yes, but... | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 879 Registered: 5-2003 |
Is this a fictional story about a fictional Pope's death? Shoes of the Fisherman? Angels and Demons? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 733 Registered: 12-2007 |
Is this a fictional story Yes... about a fictional Pope's death? ..but no to this bit. Shoes of the Fisherman? Angels and Demons? Haven't read either... assume "no" as an answer if the question is "is this puzzle inspired by X?", and "don't know" if the question is "is any part of X's plot relevant for this puzzle?". | ||
| Spackspartan (Spackspartan)
New member Username: Spackspartan Post Number: 16 Registered: 4-2009 |
Is it based on an urban legend? A work of literature? If Alberto hadn't moved, would he have died? Is Alberto's name relevant? Is it relevant that Alberto is a Hispanic name? Would another hispanic name work? Would Albert? Jack? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 734 Registered: 12-2007 |
Is it based on an urban legend? A work of literature? No to both, but explore. If Alberto hadn't moved, would he have died? Possibly. Is Alberto's name relevant? No. Is it relevant that Alberto is a Hispanic name? Would another hispanic name work? Would Albert? Jack? What's in a name? The form I chose ("Alberto" rather than "Albert", for example) is a clue, but it is not the hispanic variant (although it is identical to it). The exact name is irrelevant. Oh, and "Alberto" is actually Germanic in origin. | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 753 Registered: 12-2007 |
***** RECAP ***** 21st century. The Pope dies. As a consequence, Catholic Alberto feels somehow threatened/in danger and moves (as in relocates) away from the European city he was living in. Why? The last two-three question posts contain some smart insights. | ||
| Sundowner (Sundowner)
New member Username: Sundowner Post Number: 512 Registered: 6-2003 |
Is specifically Alberto in danger? or a particular group to which Alberto belongs? any Catholic in that town? Is the danger real? or just an imagination of Alberto? Are other people involved in this danger? Is Alberto's town in a mainly Catholic country? mainly Protestant? mainly Orthodox? mainly Muslim? mainly atheist? Is it the capital of a country? Do we have to find out the exact town? Is something about the new Pope relevant? Would Alberto have been in the same danger when the Pope would not have died but resigned from office? Is any of the following triggering the danger in a relevant way: the burial of the Pope? the intermediary rule of the Apostolic Chamberlain? the Conclave? the election of the new Pope? the mere fact that soon there will be a different Pope? Is there something more to be found out about the Pope's death? when he died? (in a Holy Year, possibly?) where he died? what the reason of his death was? Was Alberto involved in some (possibly illegal?) business that will haven to end when a new Pope takes office in Rome? Alberto's profession relevant? Is Alberto a relative of the old Pope? of the new Pope? | ||
| Yabblesmacker (Yabblesmacker)
New member Username: Yabblesmacker Post Number: 101 Registered: 4-2009 |
Was Alberto justified in feeling threatened when Pope died? Did any other Catholics living in the same city move away for the same reasons? If not, was it because they weren't in danger? Or because they didn't realise they were? Prophecies relevant? Alberto predicts that after the Pope dies something will endanger him, correct? Does he think it will endanger anyone else? Other Catholics in the city? Everyone in the city? Can Alberto see into the future? Does he think he can? Or would anyone be able to make this prediction if they had enough information? Does this take place in the future? In an alternate reality? Is the Pope Benedict XVI? Does the danger Alberto thinks he is in arise from whoever is going to be the next Pope? Does the next Pope know him? | ||
| Kalira (Kalira)
New member Username: Kalira Post Number: 184 Registered: 2-2009 |
Is Alberto Italian? Living in Rome? Vatican City? Is he actually one of the Catholic clergy? A cardinal? Does he work for the Catholic church in any capacity? Barring that, is his occupation relevant? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 755 Registered: 12-2007 |
Sundowner: Is specifically Alberto in danger? or a particular group to which Alberto belongs? This. any Catholic in that town? Everyone in town, see below. Is the danger real? No-ish. or just an imagination of Alberto? Yes, for svv of imagination. Are other people involved in this danger? Yes. Is Alberto's town in a mainly Catholic country? This one. mainly Protestant? mainly Orthodox? mainly Muslim? mainly atheist? Is it the capital of a country? Yes. Do we have to find out the exact town? Yes, see below. Is something about the new Pope relevant? Yes. Would Alberto have been in the same danger when the Pope would not have died but resigned from office? Yes. Is any of the following triggering the danger in a relevant way: the burial of the Pope? the intermediary rule of the Apostolic Chamberlain? the Conclave? the election of the new Pope? the mere fact that soon there will be a different Pope? This one, no to rest. Is there something more to be found out about the Pope's death? No. when he died? (in a Holy Year, possibly?) where he died? what the reason of his death was? Was Alberto involved in some (possibly illegal?) business that will haven to end when a new Pope takes office in Rome? No. Alberto's profession relevant? No. Is Alberto a relative of the old Pope? of the new Pope? No to both. Yabblesmacker: Was Alberto justified in feeling threatened when Pope died? Question of point of view, but let's say no. Did any other Catholics living in the same city move away for the same reasons? Possibly. If not, was it because they weren't in danger? Or because they didn't realise they were? This one. Prophecies relevant? Very much so! Alberto predicts that after the Pope dies something will endanger him, correct? Yope. Does he think it will endanger anyone else? Yes. Other Catholics in the city? Everyone in the city? This. Can Alberto see into the future? No. Does he think he can? No. Or would anyone be able to make this prediction if they had enough information? No. Does this take place in the future? Yes. In an alternate reality? No. Is the Pope Benedict XVI? The dead one? Yes. Does the danger Alberto thinks he is in arise from whoever is going to be the next Pope? Yes, indirectly. Does the next Pope know him? Irrelevant. Kalira: Is Alberto Italian? Yes. Living in Rome? Yes. Vatican City? No. Is he actually one of the Catholic clergy? A cardinal? Does he work for the Catholic church in any capacity? Barring that, is his occupation relevant? No to all. Some very good progress there. | ||
| Yabblesmacker (Yabblesmacker)
New member Username: Yabblesmacker Post Number: 102 Registered: 4-2009 |
Is there a prophecy that after Benedict XVI dies or leaves his position as Pope, the city of Rome will be destroyed, or something similar? | ||
| Kalira (Kalira)
New member Username: Kalira Post Number: 185 Registered: 2-2009 |
Oh wait, that sounds familiar... Isn't there somebody who prophesied a series of popes until the end of the world? or something like that? Nostradamus, maybe? Is Benedict XVI the last one on that list? | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 757 Registered: 12-2007 |
******* SPOILER ******* Exactly so -- it was St. Malachy. More details here. We will see what happens when Benedict XVI dies :-) |
