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Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2009 - 1:02 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Naming them for cartoon characters is one thing, but "Snowcone" and "Haystack" just wouldn't be appropriate!

(possibly a quickie.)
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Are they animals? Animals associated with majesty and pride?
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Are they animals? No. Animals associated with majesty and pride? No. The title is mildly relevant, but you don't need to find its relevance to solve this puzzle.
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Are they machines? people? places? food items? hair styles?
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Are they machines? This, no others. people? places? food items? hair styles?
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cars? airplanes?
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cars? airplanes? No to both.
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Is sex, drugs, violence, and/or rock and roll relevant?
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Is sex, drugs, violence, and/or rock and roll relevant? None of the above.
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Are the names inappropriate because of the machine's shape? purpose? size? creator?
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Are the names inappropriate because of the machine's shape? purpose? This. size? creator?
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Are the machines electricity-operated?

Is the purpose medical? transportation-related?
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Are the machines electricity-operated? Yes.

Is the purpose medical? A bit, but not much. transportation-related? Yes.
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Is "Haystack" inappropriate because you would want to put (or find? or use?) a needle in it?
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Is "Haystack" inappropriate because you would want to put (or find? or use?) a needle in it? No.
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Electric wheelchairs? Stairclimbers? Ambulances?
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Electric wheelchairs? Stairclimbers? Ambulances? None of the above.
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Possible FA there, in fact; the medical purpose exists, but is secondary. It can safely be ignored for purposes of solving the puzzle.
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Do they transport people? or cargo?
Transport on land? water? air?

Did the one named Snowcone differ from the one named Haystack in any way? Significant?
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Rescue craft of sorts?
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Do they transport people? This. or cargo?
Transport on land? water? air? None of the above.

Did the one named Snowcone differ from the one named Haystack in any way? Significant? Yes to both.
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Do they transport people into outer space?
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Do they transport people into outer space? Yes.
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Do extreme temperatures (hot and cold) have any relevance to the chosen names?
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Is the puzzle statement sarcastic?
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Do extreme temperatures (hot and cold) have any relevance to the chosen names? Probably not; irrelevant.

Is the puzzle statement sarcastic? Not intentionally. But now that I think of it, the names actually chosen are majestic enough to be proud of, and Snowcone and Haystack definitely aren't.
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So this is to do with names of space shuttles? And the names Snowcone and Haystack were proposed, which would hardly be appropriate (like naming a racehorse of high breeding "Black Beauty")?
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So this is to do with names of space shuttles? No, but you're OTRT.And the names Snowcone and Haystack were proposed, which would hardly be appropriate (like naming a racehorse of high breeding "Black Beauty")? Correct, but then why would cartoon names be all right?
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Snowcone and Haystack were the "original" names of Eagle and Columbia, the modules of Apollo 11 that first put a man on the moon. I suppose saying "The Snowcone has landed" would sound a trifle ridiculous, but I am not sure whether this is helpful in terms of solving the puzzle. I offer it here in case it may assist a keener mind than mine.
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Snowcone and Haystack were the "original" names of Eagle and Columbia, the modules of Apollo 11 that first put a man on the moon. I suppose saying "The Snowcone has landed" would sound a trifle ridiculous, but I am not sure whether this is helpful in terms of solving the puzzle. I offer it here in case it may assist a keener mind than mine.

No point in a spoiler; that's the answer. On Apollo 9, the command module Gumdrop and lunar module Spider were named for what they physically resembled. On Apollo 10, the LM was named Snoopy because it "snooped" around Apollo 11's landing site, and the CM was named Charlie Brown to match.

After that, the government cracked down and insisted on patriotic and literary names. During the initial planning stage, Snowcone and Haystack were used as placeholder names but were hastily changed when the rule came down.

The title is drawn from a Civil War song:

"The eagle of Columbia, in majesty and pride,
Still soars aloft in glory, though traitors have defied
The flag we dearly cherish, the emblem of our will,
Baptized in blood of heroes, way down on Bunker Hill."

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