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Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 794 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Friday, March 20, 2009 - 11:56 pm: |      |
He lost the instructions, so he died. |
Absinthe (Absinthe)
New member Username: Absinthe
Post Number: 14 Registered: 3-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 12:14 am: |      |
He1 = He2? Were the instructions for the operation of a machine? Or how to carry out a certain action? Did it involve tools? (To clarify: that's generic tool, not specifically hammers or wrenches.) |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 795 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 12:41 am: |      |
He1 = He2? Yes. Were the instructions for the operation of a machine? Several machines. Or how to carry out a certain action? Yes. Did it involve tools? (To clarify: that's generic tool, not specifically hammers or wrenches.)No. |
Absinthe (Absinthe)
New member Username: Absinthe
Post Number: 15 Registered: 3-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 12:54 am: |      |
Was he maimed by a machine? Or was the machine indirectly responsible for his death? Was his death caused because he failed to use the machine correctly, or for some reason not related to literally carrying out the instructions? (Say, he dropped them into a machine and got killed while trying to fish them out.) Are these machines industrial or household? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 797 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 3:05 pm: |      |
Was he maimed by a machine? No. Or was the machine indirectly responsible for his death? Yes. Was his death caused because he failed to use the machine correctly, Yes. or for some reason not related to literally carrying out the instructions? No. (Say, he dropped them into a machine and got killed while trying to fish them out.) No. Are these machines industrial or household? Neither. |
Absinthe (Absinthe)
New member Username: Absinthe
Post Number: 19 Registered: 3-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 4:33 pm: |      |
Neither industrial or household? Er... I'm not sure what else that leaves. A car or some other vehicle? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 798 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 5:59 pm: |      |
Neither industrial or household? Er... I'm not sure what else that leaves. Well, it's not in a factory or a house. How would you respond? A car or some other vehicle? Yes. |
Absinthe (Absinthe)
New member Username: Absinthe
Post Number: 26 Registered: 3-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 6:38 pm: |      |
Ah, I was thinking "something you'd find being used by companies" versus "something an individual would own". Cars and computers would be a bit of both. Are all of the machines involved cars, or are some of them different? If different, are they still all vehicles? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 800 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 10:00 pm: |      |
Ah, I was thinking "something you'd find being used by companies" versus "something an individual would own". Cars and computers would be a bit of both. Ah. Well, it's not owned by an individual. It is technically owned by a company. Are all of the machines involved cars, or are some of them different? If different, are they still all vehicles? How do I explain this... It is arguable that several machines are involved, but since they work together to perform a single task they could count as just one or two. In the sense that, say, a single engine or transmission is made up of many machines, and both are needed to make the vehicle move. There is only one vehicle involved. It is not a car. |
Absinthe (Absinthe)
New member Username: Absinthe
Post Number: 29 Registered: 3-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 10:26 pm: |      |
Ah, okay, I'm with you now. ^^ Is the vehicle a... Train? Tram? Small boat? Ship? Lorry? Van? Motorcycle? Bus? Plane? Hot air balloon? Is the date relevant? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 801 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 10:49 pm: |      |
Ah, okay, I'm with you now. ^^ Thanks for yer patience. :p Is the vehicle a... Train? Tram? Small boat? Ship? Lorry? Van? Motorcycle? Bus? Plane? This. Hot air balloon? Is the date relevant? No, but it could only occur post-1940 or so. |
Absinthe (Absinthe)
New member Username: Absinthe
Post Number: 31 Registered: 3-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 11:07 pm: |      |
I meant that the other way round, actually. Thank you for being patient with the noobie. >_> Was he a pilot who accidentally crashed the plane? And the "machines" in question are the engines? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 803 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 11:12 pm: |      |
Was he a pilot Yes. who accidentally crashed the plane? Yes, but the crash is irrelevant. And the "machines" in question are the engines? No. |
Absinthe (Absinthe)
New member Username: Absinthe
Post Number: 36 Registered: 3-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 11:38 pm: |      |
Are the machines part of the plane, or part or something he had with him in the plane? If the crash is irrelevant, then was he dead before the crash? Does this involve oxygen masks? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 808 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 11:41 pm: |      |
Are the machines part of the plane, This. or part or something he had with him in the plane? Arguably this as well. If the crash is irrelevant, then was he dead before the crash? No. Does this involve oxygen masks? No. Perhaps I should have said that while he died in the crash, that's not what you should focus on. |
Absinthe (Absinthe)
New member Username: Absinthe
Post Number: 38 Registered: 3-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 11:58 pm: |      |
Hmm. Was he alone, or were there other pilots with him? If there were others, was he the pilot, copilot, or navigator? Was he a learner, or even completely untrained at flying? Was he in the air at the time of his mistake, or did it occour on the ground? Are the machines the controls? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 810 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 12:13 am: |      |
Hmm. Was he alone, or were there other pilots with him? Alone, but irrelevant. If there were others, was he the pilot, copilot, or navigator? Was he a learner, or even completely untrained at flying? Hm. This incident probably would never happen, because if it did, the pilot would be, by virtue of experience, competent enough to work around the problem. If he was uncompetent, in which case losing the instructions would get him killed, he probably wouldn't be in the plane in the first place. In other words, this never happened; but it could have. Was he in the air at the time of his mistake, or did it occour on the ground? Irrelevant, depending on the nature of the equipment with which he had a problem. Assume in the air. However, note that he did not, technically, make a mistake. Are the machines the controls? Yope. |
Absinthe (Absinthe)
New member Username: Absinthe
Post Number: 42 Registered: 3-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 12:46 am: |      |
He didn't technically make a mistake because: he simply didn't know how to use the equipment, or because it broke/behaved strangely and he didn't know how to fix it/realise it was broken? Was it the autopilot? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 814 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 1:34 am: |      |
He didn't technically make a mistake because: he simply didn't know how to use the equipment, or because it broke/behaved strangely and he didn't know how to fix it/realise it was broken? Neither. Was it the autopilot? No. |
Finno (Finno)
New member Username: Finno
Post Number: 88 Registered: 2-2009
| | Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 9:08 am: |      |
Was the machine a usual part of a plane? {Usual means something you will find in any kind of plane} Or something that he took along with him in the cockpit? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 819 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 11:27 am: |      |
Was the machine a usual part of a plane? {Usual means something you will find in any kind of plane} No, only found in certain types of planes. Or something that he took along with him in the cockpit? No, built in. |
Finno (Finno)
New member Username: Finno
Post Number: 89 Registered: 2-2009
| | Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 12:18 pm: |      |
Is it: night vision? Weather report machine? something to do with altitude? speed? wind direction? ATC communicator? |
Kalira (Kalira)
New member Username: Kalira
Post Number: 70 Registered: 2-2009
| | Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 1:15 pm: |      |
Okay, you win the prize for best combination title and puzzle statement... Anything to do with propellers? ejector seats? Did the machines in question malfunction? by themselves? or through human means (i.e. did somebody screw them up?)? Did the instructions pertain to how to fix? turn back on? the machines? Or did they pertain to how to deploy emergency measures of some sort? Was the pilot attempting to fix the plane? or evacuate it? You said he is alone. Does that mean there are no passengers (other than, technically, him)? or just that he is alone in the cockpit? Relevant? Is the plane in question a commercial airliner? A cargo plane? A military jet? A plane used for some other kind of general aviation? Is how he lost the directions relevant? Did he leave them at the airport? Did they get sucked out of the plane? through the toilet? through an open emergency hatch? Hmm... Just to clear something up. Was the pilot in the plane at the time of the crash? Was the plane remote-controlled? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 820 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 5:40 pm: |      |
Okay, you win the prize for best combination title and puzzle statement... Thanks! Anything to do with propellers? ejector seats? This. Did the machines in question malfunction? No. by themselves? or through human means (i.e. did somebody screw them up?)? Did the instructions pertain to how to fix? turn back on? the machines? Or did they pertain to how to deploy emergency measures of some sort? This. Was the pilot attempting to fix the plane? or evacuate it? This. You said he is alone. Does that mean there are no passengers (other than, technically, him)? Yes. or just that he is alone in the cockpit? Yes. Relevant? No. Assume a crew of one, and no passengers. Is the plane in question a commercial airliner? A cargo plane? A military jet? This. A plane used for some other kind of general aviation? Is how he lost the directions relevant? Yes. Did he leave them at the airport? No. Did they get sucked out of the plane? No. through the toilet? through an open emergency hatch? No. Hmm... Just to clear something up. Was the pilot in the plane at the time of the crash? Yes. Was the plane remote-controlled? No. |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 821 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 5:42 pm: |      |
Is it: night vision? Weather report machine? something to do with altitude? speed? wind direction? ATC communicator? None of the above. |
Absinthe (Absinthe)
New member Username: Absinthe
Post Number: 80 Registered: 3-2009
| | Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 8:20 pm: |      |
Aha, so he was trying to use the ejector seat, but because he lost the instructions, he couldn't make it eject? Did this failure injure him, or was he unharmed until the crash? Did he fail to open the roof? Did the mechanism backfire somehow because he used it incorrectly -- say, it exploded, damaging the seat instead of ejecting it? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 822 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 8:48 pm: |      |
Aha, so he was trying to use the ejector seat, but because he lost the instructions, he couldn't make it eject? Correct. Did this failure injure him, or was he unharmed until the crash? The latter. Did he fail to open the roof? No. Did the mechanism backfire somehow because he used it incorrectly -- say, it exploded, damaging the seat instead of ejecting it? No, he arguably made no mistakes. |
Absinthe (Absinthe)
New member Username: Absinthe
Post Number: 84 Registered: 3-2009
| | Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 9:17 pm: |      |
Was he directly responsible for losing the instructions, or did the problem (I'm not entirely sure what word to use to describe "the problem that prevented him from ejecting") somehow cause the instructions to be "lost"? If the latter, were they printed on a flap, or screen? Did said flap break or become obscured, preventing him from reading it? If they weren't printed on a part of the mechanism itself, were they printed on paper? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 823 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 12:02 am: |      |
Was he directly responsible for losing the instructions, or did the problem (I'm not entirely sure what word to use to describe "the problem that prevented him from ejecting") somehow cause the instructions to be "lost"? Both, really, but much more tilted towards the latter. While he was technically directly responsible for the loss, it was not his fault and no one could blame him. This is not a case of pilot error. If the latter, were they printed on a flap No, or screen {elaborate, please?}? Did said flap break or become obscured, preventing him from reading it? No. If they weren't printed on a part of the mechanism itself They were, were they printed on paper? No. |
Absinthe (Absinthe)
New member Username: Absinthe
Post Number: 92 Registered: 3-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 1:11 am: |      |
Ah, by screen I meant a transparent cover. A window, a safety screen, a box to cover the button, etc. Would he have been able to see the instructions from his seat had they not been "lost"? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 825 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 2:01 am: |      |
Ah, by screen I meant a transparent cover. A window, a safety screen, a box to cover the button, etc. Ah. No, the instructions were not covered or specifically protected. Would he have been able to see the instructions from his seat had they not been "lost"? Yes, but explore this. |
Absinthe (Absinthe)
New member Username: Absinthe
Post Number: 93 Registered: 3-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 5:22 am: |      |
Hmm. You confirmed that the instructions were printed on the mechanism itself -- does this refer to the seat as a whole? Parts of the plane its attached to? The actual rocket that propels the seat? Would he have been able to read them without turning his head? Since the instructions were printed on a part of the mechanism, does this mean that in losing them, the device was rendered physically unusable? Is the reason he needed to eject relevant? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 826 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 6:44 am: |      |
Hmm. You confirmed that the instructions were printed on the mechanism itself -- does this refer to the seat as a whole? Parts of the plane its attached to? This. The actual rocket that propels the seat? Would he have been able to read them without turning his head? Unknown, but assume no. Since the instructions were printed on a part of the mechanism, does this mean that in losing them, the device was rendered physically unusable? If by "device" you mean the ejection seat, no. Is the reason he needed to eject relevant? No. |
Haenlomal (Haenlomal)
New member Username: Haenlomal
Post Number: 975 Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 12:23 am: |      |
Were the instructions printed on the canopy? And was step one telling the pilot how to get rid of the canopy? |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo
Post Number: 827 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 1:29 am: |      |
Were the instructions printed on the canopy? And was step one telling the pilot how to get rid of the canopy? Yup. ******************************* Spoiler ******************************* One jet fighter delivered to Edwards AFB for testing in the '60s had the instructions for ejecting imprinted on the inside of the cockpit canopy. Step one was "Jettison canopy." |
Haenlomal (Haenlomal)
New member Username: Haenlomal
Post Number: 979 Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 3:09 am: |      |
Wow...I didn't really expect that to be the solution. The USAF really printed the instructions on the canopy in the 60's? Absolutely amazing. And Absinthe, sorry for the swoop! You did all the hard work, and I just merely laid the last straw on the camel's back... |
Absinthe (Absinthe)
New member Username: Absinthe
Post Number: 100 Registered: 3-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 4:22 am: |      |
I don't mind! I did the exact same thing in another one of Jen's puzzles, so I got what I deserved. ^^ I was stuck on this one, anyway. Nice solution, by the way, haha. |
Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
Moderator Username: Noobdogg
Post Number: 72 Registered: 3-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 2:19 pm: |      |
Lol poor dude. Good one! |