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A girl wakes up suddenly during the night. She walks downstairs and looks at her refrigerator. She then becomes very worried and sad. Why?
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This reminds me of a joke: Unmarried women come home, look in the fridge, and go to bed. Married women come home, look in the bed, and go to the fridge.

Is the fridge working? Had she been keeping something specific inside the fridge, and was worried/sad because it was no longer being kept chilled?

Is it a fridge/freezer unit, or pure fridge? Relevant? If so, was she worried because of the fridge section or the freezer section?

Had the fridge fallen over? Squashed a pet?
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Is the fridge working? Irrelevant.
Had she been keeping something specific inside the fridge, and was worried/sad because it was no longer being kept chilled? No.

Is it a fridge/freezer unit, or pure fridge? Irrelevant.
Relevant? No. If so, was she worried because of the fridge section or the freezer section? N/A

Had the fridge fallen over? No. Squashed a pet? No.
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Had someone affixed a message to the fridge using magnets?

Are the physical attributes of the fridge relevant? Was the fridge vertical (door opens like a, well, door) or horizontal (door opens like a book on a table)?

Are the contents of the fridge relevant? Did she become saddened upon looking at the fridge itself, or did she need to open it first? Is the fridge the only relevant object? Is she the only relevant person?

Was she worried for the same reason she was sad? Did she wake up suddenly because of whatever had happened to the fridge? Was she woken by: A noise? A physical feeling (e.g. a breeze)? A strong smell or taste? A bad dream? Something supernatural?
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Had someone affixed a message to the fridge using magnets? No.

Are the physical attributes of the fridge relevant? Noish. Was the fridge vertical (door opens like a, well, door) or horizontal (door opens like a book on a table)? The former.

Are the contents of the fridge relevant? No. Did she become saddened upon looking at the fridge itself, or did she need to open it first? She did not have to open it. Is the fridge the only relevant object? No. Is she the only relevant person? Yes.

Was she worried for the same reason she was sad? Yes. Did she wake up suddenly because of whatever had happened to the fridge? No. Was she woken by: A noise? A physical feeling (e.g. a breeze)? This. A strong smell or taste? A bad dream? Something supernatural?
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To clarify: her waking was a coincidence that was totally unrelated to whatever was wrong with the fridge/saddened her? If no, was it indirectly responsible for waking her?

Is the fact she was asleep important, or merely the fact that she was away from the fridge? Would the sad-making thing have occoured/been present if she'd been awake in the room with the fridge the whole time?

Was the fridge in the kitchen, cellar or garage? Somewhere else? Relevant?

The fridge isn't the only relevant object, so: was it an animal? A corpse? Food? An electronic device? Paper? Was it large (the size of or bigger than the fridge), medium (fridge-sized to dog-sized), small (she could easily pick it up), or tiny (she could hide it in her fist)? If there's more than one non-fridge relevant object, same questions for each.
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Oops, forgot some questions:

Was the physical sensation that woke her up: a change in temperature? A light switching on? Something brushing against her skin? If this, was it an animal? A person? Bedsheets? Water?

Is her age relevant? Was she an adult, teenager, child or preschooler? Was she prompted to go downstairs because she suspected something had happened, or was she going downstairs for some other reason? If some other reason, is it relevant?
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She looks at the fridge, as opposed to inside the fridge, right?
She does not (need to) open the fridge door in order to become worried, right?
Would the puzzle work if it were her TV instead of the fridge?
Must it be an electrical appliance?
A heavy appliance?
A big appliance (as opposed to an electric toothbrush, a mixmaster etc)?
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To clarify: her waking was a coincidence that was totally unrelated to whatever was wrong with the fridge/saddened her? If no, was it indirectly responsible for waking her? Her waking was related to the reason she was saddened, but the fridge itself was not at all responsible for her waking.

Is the fact she was asleep important, or merely the fact that she was away from the fridge? Both. Would the sad-making thing have occoured/been present if she'd been awake in the room with the fridge the whole time? Probably not.

Was the fridge in the kitchen, cellar or garage? Somewhere else? Relevant? Not very relevant.

The fridge isn't the only relevant object, so: was it an animal? Yes. A corpse? Food? An electronic device? Paper? Was it large (the size of or bigger than the fridge), medium (fridge-sized to dog-sized), small (she could easily pick it up), or tiny (she could hide it in her fist)? Small to tiny. If there's more than one non-fridge relevant object, same questions for each. For the second non-fridge relevant object: small.

Was the physical sensation that woke her up: a change in temperature? Yes. A light switching on? Something brushing against her skin? If this, was it an animal? A person? Bedsheets? Water?

Is her age relevant? No. Was she an adult, teenager, child or preschooler? Was she prompted to go downstairs because she suspected something had happened, or was she going downstairs for some other reason? If some other reason, is it relevant? Not relevant.
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She looks at the fridge, as opposed to inside the fridge, right? Correct.
She does not (need to) open the fridge door in order to become worried, right? Right.
Would the puzzle work if it were her TV instead of the fridge? Yes.
Must it be an electrical appliance? No.
A heavy appliance? No.
A big appliance (as opposed to an electric toothbrush, a mixmaster etc)? No.
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Was it anything about the fridge itself that worried her?
Something attached to the fridge that shouldn't have been there? Or the opposite?
Something written or drawn on the fridge which shouldn't have been there? Or the opposite?
The position of the fridge?
Had the looks of anything about the fridge changed since she saw it last? And she hoped it wouldn't have?
Or the opposite?
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Was it anything about the fridge itself that worried her?
Something attached to the fridge that shouldn't have been there? Or the opposite?
Something written or drawn on the fridge which shouldn't have been there? Or the opposite?
The position of the fridge?
Had the looks of anything about the fridge changed since she saw it last? And she hoped it wouldn't have?
Or the opposite?

No to all of the above.
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Did she gain any information at all by looking at the fridge?
Does this work if the room is absolutely naked and empty, apart from her, the light fixture in the ceiling and the fridge itself?
Was she worried by the fact that the fridge was there at all?
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Did she gain any information at all by looking at the fridge? Yes, after a fashion.
Does this work if the room is absolutely naked and empty, apart from her, the light fixture in the ceiling and the fridge itself? No.
Was she worried by the fact that the fridge was there at all? No.
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So, some item or person is relevant apart from the fridge, then?
Item?
Person?
Did she see a mirror image on some reflecting surface of the fridge?
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So, some item or person is relevant apart from the fridge, then? Yes.
Item? One is this. The other...yesish, I'd have to say.
Person? No.
Did she see a mirror image on some reflecting surface of the fridge? No.
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So, if we call the certain item A, and the "yesish" item B...
Is B an animal?
A phenomenon?
Something that cannot be counted (water, air etc)?
Can it be touched?
Picked up?
For both items:
Does she see it during the time she is looking at the fridge?
Is it something one would usually find in the same room as a fridge?
Is she worried about her own security?
About her finances? Or fiancee, for that matter?
About some other person?
About her belongings?
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So, if we call the certain item A, and the "yesish" item B...
Is B an animal? Yes.
A phenomenon?
Something that cannot be counted (water, air etc)?
Can it be touched?
Picked up?
For both items:
Does she see it during the time she is looking at the fridge? Item A: Yes; item B: No.
Is it something one would usually find in the same room as a fridge? Quite often, I would think. But not always/necessarily.
Is she worried about her own security? No.
About her finances? Or fiancee, for that matter?
About some other person? No.
About her belongings? A bit closer...
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Relevant what type of animal? Dog? Cat? Camel?
Item A...
Something fixed (bench, cupboard etc.)?
Piece of furniture?
Is she worried that item B might have done something undesireable to item A? To the fridge?
Does the fridge look any different now as compared to last time she saw it?
Is it open? Relevant?
Is she worried about any food that might have been sampled or downright eaten by item B?
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So, there was a change in temperature - in her bedroom?
She was sleeping indoors, right?
Temperature change caused by...
Window or door opening?
Oven not operating properly?
Drop of outside temperature?
Winds?
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Relevant what type of animal? Yes, it's relevant. Dog? No. Cat? No. Camel? No.
Item A...
Something fixed (bench, cupboard etc.)? No.
Piece of furniture? No.
Is she worried that item B might have done something undesirable to item A? No. To the fridge? No.
Does the fridge look any different now as compared to last time she saw it? No.
Is it open? Relevant? Irrelevant.
Is she worried about any food that might have been sampled or downright eaten by item B? No.

So, there was a change in temperature - in her bedroom? Yes.
She was sleeping indoors, right? Yes.
Temperature change caused by...
Window or door opening?
Oven not operating properly? Noish.
Drop of outside temperature?
Winds?
None of the others...
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Did the temperature rise? Sink?
Item B...
Mammal?
The size of a USB stick? Computer mouse? Small printer? 15" CRT? 21" CRT? Tower PC? Even bigger?
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Did the temperature rise? Sink? It sank.
Item B...
Mammal? No.
The size of a USB stick? Around this size, yes. Computer mouse? Small printer? 15" CRT? 21" CRT? Tower PC? Even bigger?
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Was there a power outage?
Number of legs for item B...
4?
6?
8?
More than 8?
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Was there a power outage? Yes, something like this.

Number of legs for item B...
4?
6?
8?
More than 8?
None of the above.
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0?
1?
2?
3?
5?
7?
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Is the animal a pet? Is it a bird in a cage? Is it dead?
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0? This.
1?
2?
3?
5?
7?

Is the animal a pet? Yes. Is it a bird in a cage? No. Is it dead? Yes.
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A goldfish?
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A goldfish? Not exactly. But this could work with a goldfish, possibly (I think).
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Is item B a pet?
Fish of any kind?
Lizard?
Snake?
Did the temperature drop below freezing?
Or could it be expected to?
Relevant?
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Is item B a pet? Yes
Fish of any kind? Yes
Lizard?
Snake?
Did the temperature drop below freezing? Possibly
Or could it be expected to?
Relevant? Yes.
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Relevant how cold the water in the fish tank got? Would the fish be tropical and require warm water to survive?
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Is it relevant whether the fridge was running or not?
Item A -
Kitchen utensil?
Manufactured item?
Made of steel? Partially?
Made of plastic? Partially?
Made of wood? Partially?
Made of glass? Partially?
Does it consist of more than one (separable or movable) part?
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Relevant how cold the water in the fish tank got? Yes! Would the fish be tropical and require warm water to survive? Yes!

Is it relevant whether the fridge was running or not? No.
Item A -
Kitchen utensil? No.
Manufactured item? Yes.
Made of steel? Partially?
Made of plastic? Partially? This--partially of plastic.
Made of wood? Partially?
Made of glass? Partially?
Does it consist of more than one (separable or movable) part? Yes.
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Item A size
The size of a USB stick? Computer mouse? Small printer? 15" CRT? 21" CRT? Tower PC? Even bigger?
Is the fish in an ordinary aquarium?
Is the fish tank on top of the fridge?
Is item A to do with the fish tank?
So Item A is made partly of a material that is neither steel, wood, plastic nor glass?
Metal other than steel?
Do you think it is likely that I have such an item in my home?
Does it have moving parts?
Separable parts?
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Item A size
The size of a USB stick? Computer mouse? This. Small printer? 15" CRT? 21" CRT? Tower PC? Even bigger?
Is the fish in an ordinary aquarium? Yes.
Is the fish tank on top of the fridge? No.
Is item A to do with the fish tank? Yes, kind of.
So Item A is made partly of a material that is neither steel, wood, plastic nor glass? Yes.
Metal other than steel? No.
Do you think it is likely that I have such an item in my home? You certainly could, but not necessarily.
Does it have moving parts? Not that move by themselves.
Separable parts? Two.
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Is item A a container of sorts?
A tool?
Does it run on electricity?
Made of rubber?
Paper?
Cardboard?
Cloth?
Styrofoam?
Some ceramic?
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Is item A a container of sorts? Yes!.
A tool?
Does it run on electricity?
Made of rubber?
Paper?
Cardboard?
Cloth?
Styrofoam?
Some ceramic?
None of the above.
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Is A intended to contain...
Foodstuff?
Drinkstuff?
Liquid?
Some manufactured item?
Some powdered or granulated solid?
Is its shape relevant?
Rectangular?
Cylindrical?
Elliptical/spherical?
Irregular form composed of planes and straight edges?
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Is A intended to contain...
Foodstuff? Yes.
Drinkstuff?
Liquid?
Some manufactured item?
Some powdered or granulated solid? This I'd think.
Is its shape relevant? Not really
Rectangular? Maybe this.
Cylindrical? Or this.
Elliptical/spherical?
Irregular form composed of planes and straight edges?
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Does it contain seasoning?
Fish food?
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Does it contain seasoning?
Fish food? Yes.
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Is it a box resembling a salt shaker, but containing fish food and with bigger holes, which one buys in pet stores?
Is the whereabouts of item A relevant?
Is the whereabouts of the fish tank relevant?
It is in the same room as the fridge, right?
But the fish tank isn't?
And consequently the fish isn't?
The fish is in the fish tank I suppose?
Did she somehow gain information as to whether or not the fish was sufficiently warm by looking at the fridge?
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Is it a box resembling a salt shaker, but containing fish food and with bigger holes, which one buys in pet stores? Yes.
Is the whereabouts of item A relevant? Yes.
Is the whereabouts of the fish tank relevant? No.
It is in the same room as the fridge, right? The fish food container is, yes..
But the fish tank isn't? Irrelevant.
And consequently the fish isn't? Irr
The fish is in the fish tank I suppose? Yep.
Did she somehow gain information as to whether or not the fish was sufficiently warm by looking at the fridge? Yes
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Does she gain information as to the duration of the power outage by looking at the fridge?
Is the duration of the outage relevant at all?
Is the whereabouts of the fish food as related to the fridge relevant?
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Does she gain information as to the duration of the power outage by looking at the fridge? No.
Is the duration of the outage relevant at all? Not really.
Is the whereabouts of the fish food as related to the fridge relevant? Yes.
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Did she have a relative or living object hooked up to a life support machine that went out with the power outage, and thus when she realized there was no power, that her relative died?
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Is the fish food on top of the fridge?
On the floor beside the fridge?
On a table or bench?
Attached to the fridge in some other way than standing on top of it?
Has the fish sneaked out of the fish tank during the night and helped itself to some of the fish food? But because it was weakened by hypothermia, it has not been able to replace the lid before limping back into the tank?
Is the fish-food-shaker standing upright? Lying on its side? Standing upside-down? Other position? Relevant? Is the lid on? Relevant?
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Did she have a relative or living object hooked up to a life support machine that went out with the power outage, and thus when she realized there was no power, that her relative died? No.
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Is the fish food on top of the fridge? Yes.
On the floor beside the fridge?
On a table or bench?
Attached to the fridge in some other way than standing on top of it?
Has the fish sneaked out of the fish tank during the night and helped itself to some of the fish food? But because it was weakened by hypothermia, it has not been able to replace the lid before limping back into the tank? No (lol).
Is the fish-food-shaker standing upright? Lying on its side? Standing upside-down? Other position? Relevant? Is the lid on? Relevant? All irrelevant.
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When she came down and looked into the fridge-room, does she see something that she had hoped not to see?
Not see something that she had hoped to see?
Does the fish food shaker remind her of the fish, which she wouldn't have thought about otherwise?
Does she get up and go down to the fridge room specifically to check up on that which now worries her?
Which is that her fish may be dead?
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When she came down and looked into the fridge-room, does she see something that she had hoped not to see?
Not see something that she had hoped to see?
Does the fish food shaker remind her of the fish, which she wouldn't have thought about otherwise? Yes!
Does she get up and go down to the fridge room specifically to check up on that which now worries her? No.
Which is that her fish may be dead?
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Did she remember that she hadn't fed her fish?
And, hence, was sad and worried that it might be dead?
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Did she remember that she hadn't fed her fish? No.
And, hence, was sad and worried that it might be dead? But yes to this.
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Is where or how she got the fish relevant - like her fiance gave them to her right before he was killed in some horrific accident and thats why their death saddens her, and maybe he also froze to death?

Was she planning on selling the fish for thousands of dollars on the black market?

Were the fish her pets? Or someone elses pets that she was caring for?
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Is it relevant why her reaction to the power outage is that she gets up and goes to the fridge room?
Does she want to see if a fuse is blown?

If this is not relevant, I cannot see what's left to find out. She goes into the fridge room, spots the fish food, and begins to worry about whether the low temperature may have killed her fish. End of story - or not?
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-------------**Spoiler**----------

She goes into the fridge room, spots the fish food, and begins to worry about whether the low temperature may have killed her fish. End of story - or not?
Yes, that's it. She was woken by the cold since the heater stopped working. She came downstairs, and her sight happened to fall on her fish's food bottle which was on top of the fridge. She then realized that her tropical fish was either dead or dying in such a cold temperature. The end.

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