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Markobr (Markobr)
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Only the thief survived.
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Were there others in his party? Did they die? Because they were more honest?

Indiana Jones involved? Dungeons and Dragons?

Was death violent?

Thief - H/A/M?
His companions - H/A/M?
Anyone else involved - H/A/M?

True story? Fiction? From your own imagination?

Was he stealing something? If so, is it relevant what he was stealing? Who or what he was stealing it from?

Are the location or time period of the incident relevant?
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Were there others in his party? Yes. Did they die? Yes. Because they were more honest? No, maybe with a little -ish.

Indiana Jones involved? No. Dungeons and Dragons? No.

Was death violent? No, but...

Thief - H/A/M? H and M, but not A.
His companions - H/A/M? All H, otherwise mixed.
Anyone else involved - H/A/M? No.

True story? Fiction? This one. From your own imagination?

Was he stealing something? Yes. If so, is it relevant what he was stealing? Yope. Who or what he was stealing it from? No.

Are the location or time period of the incident relevant? Somewhat.
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LTPF list of continents and centuries.

Did the boy survive because he was a thief? If there had been no thief in the party, would everyone have died?

Adults and humans are mixed... is this a family? A school or camp group? Is it relevant exactly how everyone died? Did they all die in the same way?
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LTPF list of continents and centuries.

Europe, but might happen in most other continents, too, maybe with slight modifications. 19th and 20th century are most plausible.

Did the boy survive because he was a thief? Yes. If there had been no thief in the party, would everyone have died? Yes.

Adults and humans are mixed... is this a family? Yes. A school or camp group? No. Is it relevant exactly how everyone died? Yes. Did they all die in the same way? Yes.
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Were they all murdered? If so, by theives? Were they killed accidentally? If so, through natural disaster? Starvation? Through the fault of one of the people?

Did the boy only steal once? Or does he make a living out of thievery? Is it relevant what he stole?
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Were they all murdered? No. If so, by theives? FA. Were they killed accidentally? Yes. If so, through natural disaster? No. Starvation? No. Through the fault of one of the people? Yes.

Did the boy only steal once? Possibly. Or does he make a living out of thievery? No. Is it relevant what he stole? Not really.
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was this a game, or was it real life?
was the boy stealing because he knew he would live if he did?
could this happpen in real life?
was everybody who died in the same area?
was the boy not there because he was stealing
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was this a game, or was it real life? In the fictional setting it was real life.
was the boy stealing because he knew he would live if he did? No.
could this happpen in real life? Yes.
was everybody who died in the same area? Yes.
was the boy not there because he was stealing No.
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Was the boy the cause of their deaths? If so, directly or indirectly? Does it matter from what or whom he was stealing? Is any person besides the family relevant? Did his family die instantly? Did they see their deaths coming? Did the boy?

Do we need to know the composition of the family? Do we need to know more about the family?
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Was the boy the cause of their deaths? No. If so, directly or indirectly? FA. Does it matter from what or whom he was stealing? No. Is any person besides the family relevant? No. Did his family die instantly? No. Did they see their deaths coming? Before they actually died? Yes. Did the boy? Before they actually died? Yes.

Do we need to know the composition of the family? Do we need to know more about the family? Not really, but some details may help to get the picture.
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did they drown?
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did they drown? No.
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was he a baby, toddler, infant, not born yet, teen, or child?
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was he a baby, toddler, infant, not born yet, teen, or child This.?
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was it a holiday?
did the boy steal anything of value?
was it important?
was the stealing justifyable?
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was it a holiday? Irrelevant.
did the boy steal anything of value? Probably not.
was it important? What? The thing he stole? Probably not really.
was the stealing justifyable? No.
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did something collapse?
did they die of,
blood loss?
electric shock?
starvation?
dehydration?
disease?
poison?
suffacation?
old age?
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did something collapse? No.
did they die of,
blood loss?
electric shock?
starvation?
dehydration?
disease?
poison? This.
suffacation?
old age?
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was it food poisining?
did the boy steal someone elses food?
did he not die because his wasn't poisened?
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was it food poisining? Yope.
did the boy steal someone elses food? No.
did he not die because his wasn't poisened? Yes.
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Would it be more accurate to say that their food was poisoned?
Did the boy steal other food that was not poisoned?
Did his theiving activities indirectly allow him to avoid the poisoned food? Or was theft directly involved?
Do we need to know the story behind how and why they were poisoned? Or just that they were poisoned?
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Is the title relevant?
Is honesty exhibited by the family only that they were not also thieves?
Is the danger just that they were poisoned? Or was there other danger?
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Would it be more accurate to say that their food was poisoned? No.
Did the boy steal other food that was not poisoned? No.
Did his theiving activities indirectly allow him to avoid the poisoned food? Yesish. Or was theft directly involved? No.
Do we need to know the story behind how and why they were poisoned? Yes. Or just that they were poisoned?

Is the title relevant? Not really.
Is honesty exhibited by the family only that they were not also thieves? Yesish.
Is the danger just that they were poisoned? Yes. Or was there other danger? No.
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Botulism, or some kind of accidental food-borne poison relevant?

Connection between food and poison -- was the poison in their food? Did they ingest poison while eating? Was the poison separate and distinct from their food?

Was the poison man-made? Naturally occurring? There as a result of other peoples action?
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Botulism, or some kind of accidental food-borne poison relevant? No.

Connection between food and poison -- was the poison in their food? Yes. Did they ingest poison while eating? Yes. Was the poison separate and distinct from their food? No.

Was the poison man-made? No. Naturally occurring? Yes. There as a result of other peoples action? No.
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Was the food poisonous, like poison mushrooms? Or was the poison separate? Could the food normally be eaten with no problem? If separate, was this naturally occuring poison something that would be transferred to the food after it was toxic (anthrax?)? Or did the poison form on the food? Is the poison organic like anthrax? Or inorganic like arsenic?

Does the story involve tolerance to poison? In other words did the thief eat the same thing as everybody else but was unaffected due to his tolerance of it (arsenic works this way, right)? Or does the story involve toxic build-up, such that people who ingest poison over a period of time will eventually reach a toxic threshold (mercury?)?

If the thief did not eat the same thing, did he eat something different that he had stolen? Or the opposite, did he steal food that happened to be poisonous and provide it to the family?

Stepping back -- was it food that he had stolen?

Everybody died due to the action of one person, right? Was it the child? A parent? One of his siblings? Someone outside the family? Was the action related to the delivery of the food or poison?

Did the child not eat?

Possible solution: The child was caught shoplifting, sent to bed without dinner, while the rest of the family dined on food that turned out to be poisoned.
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************* SPOILER **************

Was the food poisonous, Yes. like poison mushrooms? Exactly that. Or was the poison separate? No. Could the food normally be eaten with no problem? No. If separate, was this naturally occuring poison something that would be transferred to the food after it was toxic (anthrax?)? Or did the poison form on the food? Is the poison organic like anthrax? So, this. Or inorganic like arsenic?

Does the story involve tolerance to poison? No. In other words did the thief eat the same thing as everybody else but was unaffected due to his tolerance of it (arsenic works this way, right)? No. Or does the story involve toxic build-up, such that people who ingest poison over a period of time will eventually reach a toxic threshold (mercury?)? No.

If the thief did not eat the same thing, did he eat something different that he had stolen? No. Or the opposite, did he steal food that happened to be poisonous and provide it to the family? No.

Stepping back -- was it food that he had stolen? Irrelevant.

Everybody died due to the action of one person, right? Yes. Was it the child? A parent? One of his siblings? Someone in the family. Someone outside the family? Was the action related to the delivery of the food or poison? Yes.

Did the child not eat? Yes.

Possible solution: The child was caught shoplifting, sent to bed without dinner, while the rest of the family dined on food that turned out to be poisoned. EXACTLY. You have it.

The story is set in rural France, I'm not sure about the time but probably the early 20th century. A boy has stolen something (the story doesn't tell what - probably one of the usual things for little boys to steal) and is sent to bed without dinner. The dinner contains mushrooms some family member has collected this day - unfortunately, some of the "mushrooms" are in fact death caps. The doctors can do nothing to save the lives of the family, as the story plays before the discovery of penicilline and silibinin as remedies for the poisoning. Only the boy who didn't eat anything survived. In the story he later becomes a fraudster and explains this with an early lesson about the fruits of honesty...

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