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| Flemsneezy (Flemsneezy)
New member Username: Flemsneezy Post Number: 1 Registered: 5-2009 |
Well here we go, first time posting a puzzle (fist time posting on this forum in general). I've read through a lot of these and wanted to give it a shot. He Takes a swing and comes up two short. With one left to go, they lose. I really like giving yes/no answers so i may ask you to define or clarify so i don't give misleading responses. I also have not deciphered all the jargon used on this site, so if you could avoid abbreviations, or if you use them let me know what they are so i can learn them, it would be a big help. Enjoy! | ||
| Absinthe (Absinthe)
New member Username: Absinthe Post Number: 248 Registered: 3-2009 |
Welcome! Here's some of the most commonly used jargon: Yope = Both yes and no. Used when you can't decide how to answer a question, but giving a simple "yes" or "no" would be misleading. OTRT = On The Right Track. IRR = Short for irrelevant. H/A/M = Short for "Human? Adult? Male?" (Likewise, H/A/F for females.) FA = False Assumption. LTPF = Lateral Thinking Puzzles Forum. You'll occassionally see people say "LTPF list of X"; this is a quick way of listing all possible examples of X. He = H/A/M? Is he a member of "they"? Is he playing a sport? Fighting? Swing = to throw one's arm at a target with the intention of hitting it? A physical object found in playgrounds? Something else? If they lose, does that mean someone else wins? Do "two short" and "one left to go" refer to the same thing? Is it a tangible thing? A score? | ||
| Flemsneezy (Flemsneezy)
New member Username: Flemsneezy Post Number: 3 Registered: 5-2009 |
Awesome thanks for that He = H Yope/A Yes/M Yes? Is he a member of "they"? Yes Is he playing a sport? No Fighting? Yes Swing = to throw one's arm at a target with the intention of hitting it? yes A physical object found in playgrounds? Something else? If they lose, does that mean someone else wins? Yope Do "two short" and "one left to go" refer to the same thing? No Is it a tangible thing? A score? Because of the no on the previous questions i will suggest rephrasing | ||
| Absinthe (Absinthe)
New member Username: Absinthe Post Number: 249 Registered: 3-2009 |
Could a creature such as "he" exist in real life? Is he a fictional character? An avatar in a computer game? A supernatural humanoid, like a vampire? Is he fighting a human? Another creature such as himself? An animal? An object? Is he fighting "them"? Are they fighting along side him? Helping him in some regard? Is it relevant how many of "them" there are, and if so, one including "he"? Two? Three? More than 10? Are the "two short" things tangible? Does it refer to a score? Same questions for "one left to go"? | ||
| Flemsneezy (Flemsneezy)
New member Username: Flemsneezy Post Number: 4 Registered: 5-2009 |
Could a creature such as "he" exist in real life? Yope Is he a fictional character? Yope An avatar in a computer game? No A supernatural humanoid, like a vampire? Yes. Not a vampire however. Is he fighting a human? No Another creature such as himself? Yes An animal? No An object? No Is he fighting "them"? No Are they fighting along side him? Yes Helping him in some regard? No Is it relevant how many of "them" there are not really but since you ask, and if so, one including "he"? Two? Three? More than 10? 4 including "He" "two short" Are the things tangible? No Does it refer to a score? Define score "one left to go" Are the things tangible? Yes Does it refer to a score? Define score | ||
| Absinthe (Absinthe)
New member Username: Absinthe Post Number: 252 Registered: 3-2009 |
Do the yopes in "could he exist in real life" and "is he a fictional character" refer to the fact that as a supernatural creature, many people believe his kind exists, but there's no proof of it? Is he a: Ghost? Werewolf? Zombie? Goblin or troll? Angel? Devil? One left to go: another creature such as he? If so, one of his own? One of those he's fighting? Is it an object? A different kind of creature? Two short: Two points down in a scoring system related to the outcome of the fight? Related to the spoils of the fight? Is this fight a large-scale battle, or just a scrapple? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 1013 Registered: 5-2003 |
Is he a real figure about whom legends have sprung up so that he is "larger than life?" George Washington would count, for example. Or is he a figure who may have existed, but perhaps under another name or not in the circumstances we normally imagine? Robin Hood is an example of this type. Is he swinging his fist? A weapon? | ||
| Flemsneezy (Flemsneezy)
New member Username: Flemsneezy Post Number: 7 Registered: 5-2009 |
Do the yopes in "could he exist in real life" and "is he a fictional character" refer to the fact that as a supernatural creature, many people believe his kind exists, but there's no proof of it? No. But it may be of interest to investigate the reasoning behind mys use of yope further. Is he a: Ghost? Werewolf? Zombie? Goblin or troll? Angel? Devil? None of these. One left to go: another creature such as he? Yes. If so, one of his own? No. One of those he's fighting? Yes. Is it an object? No. A different kind of creature? Yes. Two short: Two points down in a scoring system related to the outcome of the fight? Not so much a scoring system, but it is related to the fight. Related to the spoils of the fight? No. Is this fight a large-scale battle, or just a scrapple? I like that word...Scrapple, <--this. Earlier with the question about the avatar in a video game i said no because of the video game, but an avatar of sorts is involved. | ||
| Flemsneezy (Flemsneezy)
New member Username: Flemsneezy Post Number: 8 Registered: 5-2009 |
Is he a real figure about whom legends have sprung up so that he is "larger than life?" George Washington would count, for example. Or is he a figure who may have existed, but perhaps under another name or not in the circumstances we normally imagine? Robin Hood is an example of this type. None of these and not really relevant. Is he swinging his fist? A weapon? <--This. | ||
| Pikachizzle (Pikachizzle)
New member Username: Pikachizzle Post Number: 141 Registered: 5-2009 |
Is he a centaur? A minotaur? A god? A demigod? Mythological creature? Is his weapon a: bat? bow & arrow? crossbow? sword? club? axe? | ||
| Flemsneezy (Flemsneezy)
New member Username: Flemsneezy Post Number: 10 Registered: 5-2009 |
Is he a centaur? A minotaur? A god? A demigod? Mythological creature? Mythological yes, but none of these. Is his weapon a: bat? bow & arrow? crossbow? sword? club? axe? <--This. | ||
| Pikachizzle (Pikachizzle)
New member Username: Pikachizzle Post Number: 145 Registered: 5-2009 |
Is the mythological creature well known? Is he based on Greek mythology? Norse? Roman? Theseus Slaying the Minotaur relevant? | ||
| Flemsneezy (Flemsneezy)
New member Username: Flemsneezy Post Number: 11 Registered: 5-2009 |
Is the mythological creature well known? Yes Is he based on Greek mythology? Norse? Roman? I don't know, but its not important. Theseus Slaying the Minotaur relevant? Nope | ||
| Pikachizzle (Pikachizzle)
New member Username: Pikachizzle Post Number: 153 Registered: 5-2009 |
So, lemme see if I have this image right: We have creature A, fighting alongside Team A, against Team B. Creature A is wielding an axe, and I'm assuming the rest of team A is also wielding axes. Creature A swings at creature B. Is Warcraft relevant? | ||
| Flemsneezy (Flemsneezy)
New member Username: Flemsneezy Post Number: 12 Registered: 5-2009 |
So, lemme see if I have this image right: We have creature A, Yes. fighting alongside Team A, Yes. against Team B. Yes. Creature A is wielding an axe, Yes. and I'm assuming the rest of team A is also wielding axes. No. Creature A swings at creature B. Yes. Is Warcraft relevant? No. | ||
| Pikachizzle (Pikachizzle)
New member Username: Pikachizzle Post Number: 155 Registered: 5-2009 |
Would it help to figure out what Creature A is? Or Team A? Creature B? Team B? | ||
| Flemsneezy (Flemsneezy)
New member Username: Flemsneezy Post Number: 14 Registered: 5-2009 |
Would it help to figure out what Creature A is? Or Team A? Creature B? Team B? It may be very helpful or not helpful at all depending on the person and how they go about solving these puzzles, but it is not necessary to solve the puzzle. | ||
| Flemsneezy (Flemsneezy)
New member Username: Flemsneezy Post Number: 15 Registered: 5-2009 |
That answer was intended for all questions in that last post | ||
| Caesarachilles (Caesarachilles)
New member Username: Caesarachilles Post Number: 1 Registered: 5-2009 |
More about the scrapple: Is it a contest of honor? Personal vendetta? Raging angst-fueled kill-a-thon? To the death? First blood? About the involvement of an avatar: Is it an avatar of a deity? A person? Of a concept, such as Love, Hate, War, Justice, other? | ||
| Flemsneezy (Flemsneezy)
New member Username: Flemsneezy Post Number: 19 Registered: 5-2009 |
I like how this guy thinks. More about the scrapple: Is it a contest of honor? No. Personal vendetta? No. Raging angst-fueled kill-a-thon? Awesome...but No. To the death? <-This First blood? No. About the involvement of an avatar: Is it an avatar of a deity? No. A person? Yes. Of a concept, such as Love, Hate, War, Justice, other? Nope. | ||
| Grima (Grima)
New member Username: Grima Post Number: 1 Registered: 5-2009 |
Is it a fight to death trying to obtain satisfaction? Try to gain rank? Try to prove something? If it is an avatar of a person, is this person an avatar of themselves or something that belongs to them? | ||
| Grima (Grima)
New member Username: Grima Post Number: 2 Registered: 5-2009 |
Is it a fight to death trying to obtain satisfaction? Try to gain rank? Try to prove something? If it is an avatar of a person, is this person an avatar of themselves or something that belongs to them? | ||
| Flemsneezy (Flemsneezy)
New member Username: Flemsneezy Post Number: 33 Registered: 5-2009 |
Is it a fight to death trying to obtain satisfaction? Possibly, but for this case, No. Try to gain rank? This would be the closest. Try to prove something? However could in some cases also be doing this, but again for this, No. If it is an avatar of a person, is this person an avatar of themselves In a sense this one. or something that belongs to them? No. | ||
| Pikachizzle (Pikachizzle)
New member Username: Pikachizzle Post Number: 166 Registered: 5-2009 |
Are Team A and Team B at war? Is creature A seeking revenge? | ||
| Flemsneezy (Flemsneezy)
New member Username: Flemsneezy Post Number: 34 Registered: 5-2009 |
Are Team A and Team B at war? Not sure what your trying to get at so i won't answer because it may be misleading and irrelevant. They are fighting, but I'm not sure what you mean by "war". Is creature A seeking revenge? Not initially, but Yes. | ||
| Absinthe (Absinthe)
New member Username: Absinthe Post Number: 280 Registered: 3-2009 |
Is the fight an organised one, or is it spur-of-the moment? If the former, did one team hunt down the other with the intention of attacking, or did both teams agree to meet at X and duel? Would one expect teams A and B to be fighting each other? Even if one was unaware of the specific circumstances which led to this particular fight? The "one left to go" refers to a member of team B, correct? Is there "one left" because the others are all dead? | ||
| Flemsneezy (Flemsneezy)
New member Username: Flemsneezy Post Number: 37 Registered: 5-2009 |
Is the fight an organised one, <-This. or is it spur-of-the moment? No. If the former, did one team hunt down the other with the intention of attacking, No. or did both teams agree to meet at X and duel? Close. Try again. Would one expect teams A and B to be fighting each other? Under these circumstances, Yes. Even if one was unaware of the specific circumstances which led to this particular fight? So not particularly, if not in these circumstances team A and B may or may not fight each other. The "one left to go" refers to a member of team B, correct? Yes. Is there "one left" because the others are all dead? In the great words of Strongbad, VERY YES! | ||
| Absinthe (Absinthe)
New member Username: Absinthe Post Number: 283 Registered: 3-2009 |
So there being one survivor in team B caused team A to lose? Is B this survivor? Does losing mean your team is all dead? Does it mean the enemy team are all dead? Are teams A and B being forced to fight each other by party C? Are they in an arena? | ||
| Flemsneezy (Flemsneezy)
New member Username: Flemsneezy Post Number: 39 Registered: 5-2009 |
So there being one survivor in team B caused team A to lose? Yes. Is B this survivor? Sure. Does losing mean your team is all dead? Yes. Does it mean the enemy team are all dead? No. Are teams A and B being forced to fight each other by party C? Yes. Are they in an arena? Yes. | ||
| Pikachizzle (Pikachizzle)
New member Username: Pikachizzle Post Number: 172 Registered: 5-2009 |
Did Survivor B single handed-ly kill the rest of team A? Had Survivor B been someone else, would Team A still have lost? If Team A had "one left", would Team B lose? | ||
| Absinthe (Absinthe)
New member Username: Absinthe Post Number: 287 Registered: 3-2009 |
Did being "two short" result in A's demise? Provide an oppourtunity for B to kill him? I'm presuming A died shortly after swinging? | ||
| Flemsneezy (Flemsneezy)
New member Username: Flemsneezy Post Number: 42 Registered: 5-2009 |
Pikachizzle Did Survivor B single handed-ly kill the rest of team A? No. Had Survivor B been someone else, would Team A still have lost? Maybe, but Irrelevant. If Team A had "one left", would Team B lose? If the roles of Team A and B were switched, Yes, Team A would have won.} Absinthe Did being "two short" result in A's demise? In a way, Yes. Provide an opportunity for B to kill him? <-This. I'm presuming A died shortly after swinging? Yes. | ||
| Absinthe (Absinthe)
New member Username: Absinthe Post Number: 294 Registered: 3-2009 |
Was the fight subject to rules imposed by party C, or was it a chaotic "anything goes" type fight? | ||
| Flemsneezy (Flemsneezy)
New member Username: Flemsneezy Post Number: 47 Registered: 5-2009 |
Was the fight subject to rules imposed by party C, or was it a chaotic "anything goes" type fight? Anything goes. | ||
| Caesarachilles (Caesarachilles)
New member Username: Caesarachilles Post Number: 2 Registered: 5-2009 |
Was party B waiting at some location and party A found them and fought? Vice versa? Is some sort of entity officiating the scrapple? Are the "two short" some sort of quantification of chance/the ability of A to successfully attack B? Is A: Dwarf? Elf? Half-Elf? Halfling? Half-Orc? Orc? Other? | ||
| Anneja (Anneja)
New member Username: Anneja Post Number: 29 Registered: 5-2009 |
did team A lose or just creature A? did team Alose because all their people died? were there more than 1oo people on a team? 50? 25? 10? | ||
| Flemsneezy (Flemsneezy)
New member Username: Flemsneezy Post Number: 50 Registered: 5-2009 |
Caesarachillies Was party B waiting at some location and party A found them and fought? Vice versa? No. Is some sort of entity officiating the scrapple? Yes. Are the "two short" some sort of quantification of chance/the ability of A to successfully attack B? Yes. Is A: Dwarf? <-This. Elf? Half-Elf? Halfling? Half-Orc? Orc? Other? Anneja did team A lose or just creature A? Team A lost. did team Alose because all their people died? Yes. were there more than 1oo people on a team? Team A had 4, said already but quite some time ago, Team B has around 10. 50? 25? 10? | ||
| Caesarachilles (Caesarachilles)
New member Username: Caesarachilles Post Number: 5 Registered: 5-2009 |
Is the quantification represented by a die or dice? Is it D20(s)? Does this scrapple take place within the realm of a role-playing game of some sort? Is it D&D? Is the officiating entity the DM/GM? Is Team A the PCs and Team B a random encounter? Vice versa? I think this might have been asked already by Absinthe, but to clarify: Is Team A all the same race/species/whatever? Is Team B all the same race/species/whatever? | ||
| Caesarachilles (Caesarachilles)
New member Username: Caesarachilles Post Number: 6 Registered: 5-2009 |
Does each member of the scrapple have their own avatar? Is the avatar a miniature representing the PC on a battle map/grid? | ||
| Pikachizzle (Pikachizzle)
New member Username: Pikachizzle Post Number: 187 Registered: 5-2009 |
Does having one left result in winning? By "Team A losing", does it mean that: Team B Won? or Team A Lost? [There is a slight difference.] | ||
| Pikachizzle (Pikachizzle)
New member Username: Pikachizzle Post Number: 188 Registered: 5-2009 |
Also, this sounds like a kind of game. Is a board game relevant? Computer game? Card game? | ||
| Flemsneezy (Flemsneezy)
New member Username: Flemsneezy Post Number: 51 Registered: 5-2009 |
Lots to cover. Caesarachilles Is the quantification represented by a die or dice? Yes. Is it D20(s)? Yes. Does this scrapple take place within the realm of a role-playing game of some sort? Yes. Is it D&D? Yes. Is the officiating entity the DM/GM? DM. Is Team A the PCs Yes. and Team B a random encounter? No. Vice versa? I think this might have been asked already by Absinthe, but to clarify: Is Team A all the same race/species/whatever? No. Is Team B all the same race/species/whatever? Yes. Does each member of the scrapple have their own avatar? Yope. Is the avatar a miniature representing the PC on a battle map/grid? Yes. Pikachizzle Does having one left result in winning? Yes. By "Team A losing", does it mean that: Team B Won? Yes. or Team A Lost? [There is a slight difference.] Also, this sounds like a kind of game. Correct. Is a board game relevant? Computer game? Card game? None of these but look above at my response to Caesar's questions. Anyone ready to take a swing...? | ||
| Pikachizzle (Pikachizzle)
New member Username: Pikachizzle Post Number: 191 Registered: 5-2009 |
So Team A and Team B are two sides in Dungeons and Dragons. I'm assuming the object of the game is to end the game with one character? So the axe-wielding dwarf hit too many? IDK. :[ | ||
| Absinthe (Absinthe)
New member Username: Absinthe Post Number: 310 Registered: 3-2009 |
I'll take a guess, though I'm not sure this is the complete solution: A and B each roll a die to determine the outcome of their encounter. A's roll is 2 points below B's role, enabling B to make a killing blow. | ||
| Absinthe (Absinthe)
New member Username: Absinthe Post Number: 311 Registered: 3-2009 |
Ooh, ouch. I spelt "roll" as "role". I do apologise. | ||
| Caesarachilles (Caesarachilles)
New member Username: Caesarachilles Post Number: 12 Registered: 5-2009 |
In a game of D&D, the PCs (player characters, represented by miniatures), consisting of at least one axe-wielding dwarf and three other non-dwarves, encounters a group of ten creatures. A scrapple ensues, in which all the PCs except the dwarf are killed, and only one of the other side remains alive. The dwarf attacks B, but his die roll comes up two short of a hit. On B's subsequent turn, B attacks and kills the dwarf, thus ending the fight, as the PCs have no more members, and B has one left. | ||
| Flemsneezy (Flemsneezy)
New member Username: Flemsneezy Post Number: 54 Registered: 5-2009 |
I love your guts there Pikachizzle but i knew from the start that specific knowledge of the inter-workings of a Table Top Role Playing Game were going to be very helpful and possibly even essential. Due to the fact that spoilers are coming I'm not going to bother answering the questions you posted. Absinthe I'll take a guess, though I'm not sure this is the complete solution: A and B each roll a die to determine the outcome of their encounter. A's roll is 2 points below B's role, enabling B to make a killing blow. This, for the purpose of this puzzle, is close enough for me to give you the win. Which means...*drum roll*... ---+++***SpOiLeRz***+++--- *fire-works* A party of 4 player characters consisting of a Dwarf, Elf, Halfling, and Half-Orc had entered into a tournament style contest where they faced off against opposing teams in Colosseum battles. These four were pitted against a team of 10 well trained and organized NPC (non-player characters) Gnomes. The battle was gruesome, with both teams losing all their members but one. The person playing the dwarf chose to attack the final gnome but his attack role came up 2 short of meeting the gnomes armor class. The gnome then retaliated and killed the dwarf. Thus with one last enemy to go the party of 4 lost the battle. Thanks to all who played! And although Absinthe beat him to it we should all give Caesar a pat on the back for being basically exactly right. And for any who were wondering this puzzle was based off of a story thread i read in an RPG forum. | ||
| Pikachizzle (Pikachizzle)
New member Username: Pikachizzle Post Number: 202 Registered: 5-2009 |
-claps- Very creative. | ||
| Absinthe (Absinthe)
New member Username: Absinthe Post Number: 316 Registered: 3-2009 |
Haha. I'm pleased to get that win, since I've never played D&D. :p Nice puzzle. | ||
| Caesarachilles (Caesarachilles)
New member Username: Caesarachilles Post Number: 13 Registered: 5-2009 |
Noooooo!!! I was so close! Curses! But congratulations to the victor, especially for getting the right answer without knowing D&D like I do! Good job everyone! :D |
