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Blackmagic (Blackmagic)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 09, 2009 - 7:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

She liked her best friend so much she killed her.
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Posted on Tuesday, June 09, 2009 - 7:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

She=she?
Best friend=her?
Both HAF?

Because they're both female and it could get confusing, can we call the main one Susan and the best friend Lily?

Did Susan specifically plan to murder Lily?
Was it a sudden impulse?
Or was it just an accident?
Did she actually physically kill Lily or just cause her death through her actions?
Did Susan kill Lily to protect her from something (a fate worse than death)?
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Posted on Tuesday, June 09, 2009 - 7:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

She=she?
Best friend=her?
Both HAF? yes to all

Because they're both female and it could get confusing, can we call the main one Susan and the best friend Lily? yes

Did Susan specifically plan to murder Lily?no
Was it a sudden impulse? yope
Or was it just an accident? yes
Did she actually physically kill Lily or just cause her death through her actions? that one
Did Susan kill Lily to protect her from something (a fate worse than death)? no
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Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 3:10 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did Susan want Lily dead? Injured? Hurt?
Are there any other relevant characters?
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Did Susan want Lily dead? Injured? Hurt?no to all
Are there any other relevant characters?yes
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Are the relevant character(s) H/M/F? One, two, or more? Friends? Relatives? Acquaintances? Coworkers? Strangers?

Is the location relevant? The time period?

Was Lily killed by piercing damage? Slashing? Blunt force?
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Posted on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 6:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are the relevant character(s) H/M/F?they're HAM One, two, or more?just 1 Friends? Relatives? Acquaintances? Coworkers? Strangers? this

Is the location relevant?yes The time period? no

Was Lily killed by piercing damage? Slashing? Blunt force?none of these
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Posted on Friday, June 26, 2009 - 10:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are all three in the same place at the time of Lily's death? Are all withing a mile of each other? Does she die in a building? Outside? In a car? Underwater?

So there's one adult man relevant? Does he directly kill Lily? Is he present at Lily's death?

Does Susan perform an act to cause Lily's death? Say something? Fail to do something?
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Posted on Saturday, June 27, 2009 - 4:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are all three in the same place at the time of Lily's death?pretty much Are all withing a mile of each other?yes Does she die in a building?this Outside? In a car? Underwater?

So there's one adult man relevant? doesn't take a genius to work that outDoes he directly kill Lily?no Is he present at Lily's death?yes

Does Susan perform an act to cause Lily's death?this Say something? Fail to do something?
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Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 6:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does the man present intend to do harm to Lily? Does Susan think he does? Is he trying to save her? Does Susan think he is? Is he a completely passive observer? Does his presence, regardless of his actions, cause Susan to kill Lily? If he had not been present, is there any way Lily would have died in this way?
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Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 7:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does the man present intend to do harm to Lily? Does Susan think he does? Is he trying to save her? Does Susan think he is?no to all of those
Is he a completely passive observer? pretty muchDoes his presence, regardless of his actions, cause Susan to kill Lily?it's mainly his acions If he had not been present, is there any way Lily would have died in this way?yes
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Posted on Monday, June 29, 2009 - 7:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Killed= directly took away Lily's life through violent means, poison, or some other method, beyond any hope of recovery such as cryogenics, CPR, or electric shock?

Liked= Susan enjoyed Lily's company, thought she was a worthwhile person, and under normal circumstances would rather she was alive than dead?

If Susan had liked Lily less, would Lily be alive? Would Lily have agreed with Susan's motives in killing her? Would she have been grateful to be killed? Did Susan believe Lily would have agreed with her motives/been grateful?
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Posted on Monday, June 29, 2009 - 7:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Also, did Lily have any idea that Susan was going to kill her? Was this a contingency plan they made together in advance? Did she ask Susan to kill her a la Dumbledore and Snape?
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Posted on Monday, June 29, 2009 - 8:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Killed= directly took away Lily's life through violent means, poison, or some other method, beyond any hope of recovery such as cryogenics, CPR, or electric shock? yesish

Liked= Susan enjoyed Lily's company, thought she was a worthwhile person, and under normal circumstances would rather she was alive than dead? yes

If Susan had liked Lily less, would Lily be alive?this is correct Would Lily have agreed with Susan's motives in killing her? Would she have been grateful to be killed? Did Susan believe Lily would have agreed with her motives/been grateful?the rest is a big FA!
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Posted on Monday, June 29, 2009 - 10:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Okay, so is the FA that Susan had a motive for killing Lily? Was Susan mentally ill? Hypnotized? Tricked? Was she trying to do something else, and Lily's death was the unintended result? Does she make a false assumption based on the man's actions that causes her to accidentally kill Lily?
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Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2009 - 5:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Okay, so is the FA that Susan had a motive for killing Lily?yes Was Susan mentally ill? Hypnotized? Tricked? Was she trying to do something else, and Lily's death was the unintended result? yes
Does she make a false assumption based on the man's actions that causes her to accidentally kill Lily? no, but OTRT
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Posted on Sunday, July 05, 2009 - 7:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was she trying to save Lily? Did she think that Lily was in danger, try to save her, and end up causing her death instead? Anything to do with prophecies?
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Posted on Monday, July 06, 2009 - 5:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was she trying to save Lily? Did she think that Lily was in danger, try to save her, and end up causing her death instead? Anything to do with prophecies?no to all. I thought this was easy!
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Posted on Monday, July 06, 2009 - 5:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Just found the wiki page with the LTPF lists. Fun!
Was Lily already dying? Was the man a doctor? Is the man's profession relevant? Is Lily's exact cause of death relevant? If so...
impact
electric shock
the other kind of shock
something piercing her
suffocation or asphyxiation
burning
freezing
heart attack
allergies
drowning
explosion
radiation
poison
a psionic death ray
laughing to death
other
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Posted on Monday, July 06, 2009 - 5:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Just found the wiki page with the LTPF lists. Fun!
Was Lily already dying?no Was the man a doctor?no Is the man's profession relevant?yes Is Lily's exact cause of death relevant?yes If so...
impact
electric shock
the other kind of shock
something piercing her
suffocation or asphyxiation
burning
freezing
heart attack
allergies
drowning
explosion
radiation
poison
a psionic death ray
laughing to death
otherthis
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Posted on Monday, July 06, 2009 - 6:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

oooooookay, so was the man's profession in the field of:
Artistic / musical / writer
Banking / financial / real estate
Clerical / Administrative
Computer related / Hardware
Construction / Craftsman
Criminal / Questionable Repute
Education / Academic Research
Entertainment / Media
Environmental / Outdoors / Nature
Executive / Management
Hospitality / Travel
Legal Services
Manufacturing / Distributions
Medical / Health Services
Politics / Government / Military
Sales / Marketing
Technical / Science / Engineering
Teaching / Child care
Transportation
Food Service
Other

Was Lily bleeding when she died? Did some major bodily system fail? Was she unable to do something essential for the maintenance of life (e.g. eat, drink, breathe)? Prior to dying, was there anything unusual about her? If you were Susan's best friend, would you have died in this same situation? Could this happen in real life?
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Posted on Tuesday, July 07, 2009 - 8:35 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

oooooookay, so was the man's profession in the field of:
Artistic / musical / writer
Banking / financial / real estate
Clerical / Administrative
Computer related / Hardware
Construction / Craftsman
Criminal / Questionable Repute
Education / Academic Research
Entertainment / Mediathis one
Environmental / Outdoors / Nature
Executive / Management
Hospitality / Travel
Legal Services
Manufacturing / Distributions
Medical / Health Services
Politics / Government / Military
Sales / Marketing
Technical / Science / Engineering
Teaching / Child care
Transportation
Food Service
Other

Was Lily bleeding when she died?no Did some major bodily system fail? noWas she unable to do something essential for the maintenance of life (e.g. eat, drink, breathe)?yes Prior to dying, was there anything unusual about her? noIf you were Susan's best friend, would you have died in this same situation?maybe Could this happen in real life?yes
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Posted on Tuesday, July 07, 2009 - 5:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did Lily starve? Die of thirst? Oxygen deprivation?

These all seem to be relatively slow deaths. Did Susan isolate Lily somewhere without the necessities of life? If so, did she originally intend to release her before she died? If not, did she actively deprive her of food or water? Some kind of extreme dieting? Disable her in some way that didn't allow her to eat, drink, or breathe? Life support systems relevant?

Was the media guy a paparazzi? Was Lily famous? Was Susan? Was he covering some action on their part? Did he write? Take pictures? Video? Radio? Multimedia? Or was he just a bigwig at a media company? Did he actively intervene in whatever they were doing? Threaten one or both? Blackmail one or both? Or just stand by and maintain journalistic objectivity?
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Posted on Tuesday, July 07, 2009 - 7:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did Lily starve? Die of thirst? Oxygen deprivation?this, she couldn't breathe

These all seem to be relatively slow deaths. Did Susan isolate Lily somewhere without the necessities of life?no If so, did she originally intend to release her before she died?no If not, did she actively deprive her of food or water?no Some kind of extreme dieting?no Disable her in some way that didn't allow her to eat, drink, or breathe?no Life support systems relevant? no

Was the media guy a paparazzi?FA Was Lily famous?no Was Susan?no

Was he covering some action on their part? Did he write? Take pictures? Video? Radio? Multimedia? Or was he just a bigwig at a media company? Did he actively intervene in whatever they were doing? Threaten one or both? Blackmail one or both? Or just stand by and maintain journalistic objectivity?ALL OF THE ABOVE IS FA
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Posted on Tuesday, July 07, 2009 - 8:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So she couldn't breathe, but it wasn't suffocation, asphyxiation, or drowning? I'm confused. Did she die of an asthma attack? Did the air become unbreathable? Were they in outer space? Was something obstructing her mouth, nose or airway?

And you said that the man's profession was in the field of entertainment/media. So apparently he's not any kind of reporter... does he work a desk job? Is he some kind of actor? Entertainer?
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Posted on Wednesday, July 08, 2009 - 8:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So she couldn't breathe, but it wasn't suffocation, asphyxiation, or drowning? I'm confused. Did she die of an asthma attack? Did the air become unbreathable? Were they in outer space? Was something obstructing her mouth, nose or airway? this, you can ignore the rest

And you said that the man's profession was in the field of entertainment/media. So apparently he's not any kind of reporter... does he work a desk job? Is he some kind of actor? Entertainer?this
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Does the entertainer do something you would see at a circus? on a cruise boat? in Vegas? at a restaurant? on TV? in a public area? Are any of these the actual location where this takes place? Were Lily and Susan part of an audience? Is he a magician/illusionist, by any chance?

Does Susan choke on something? Something she is eating? Does she inhale something that subsequently obstructs her breathing? Is she smothered? Does someone hold her mouth and nose closed?
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Posted on Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 7:33 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does the entertainer do something you would see at a circus? on a cruise boat? in Vegas? at a restaurant? on TV? in a public area?it could be any, but most likely theatre Are any of these the actual location where this takes place?the one I mentioned Were Lily and Susan part of an audience?yes Is he a magician/illusionist, by any chance?no

Does Susan choke on something?yes, but you're thinking of Lily Something she is eating?yes Does she inhale something that subsequently obstructs her breathing?no Is she smothered?no Does someone hold her mouth and nose closed?no
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Posted on Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 4:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

For future reference, choking=asphyxiation ;-)
Alright, was he a juggler? gymnast/acrobat? singer/musician? comedian? plate spinner? dancer? death-defying stunt performer? ribbon twirler? any kind of one-man show? Did his act involve audience participation at all? Were either of them called upon to participate? Susan? Lily?

Was Lily eating something along the lines of popcorn, a pretzel, nachos, candy, etc. while watching the act? Is that what she choked on? Was it dinner theater? Did Susan lend her gum that she choked on? Did Susan directly cause her to choke? Indirectly, as with lending her gum? Or was the choking accidental, like if Lily was just unexpectedly laughing at the performer and started to choke, and then Susan killed her while trying to give her the heimlich? Or did she stop someone else from saving her?

Did anyone try to rescucitate or heimlich Lily? Did anyone realize she was choking? Anyone other than Susan? Did she die the standard period of time after she began choking? Faster? Slower?
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anything to do with mouth to mouth resuscitation? or being allergic to anything?
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Posted on Monday, July 13, 2009 - 1:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

************SPOILER******************
Yes, Lily chokes on the popcorn Susan's bought her. Someone else tries to help her, but Susan pushes them off, thinking that they are trying to kill her.

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