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Blackmagic (Blackmagic)
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Posted on Thursday, June 18, 2009 - 9:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it death, or divorce?
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Posted on Friday, June 19, 2009 - 10:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is someone (besides those trying to solve the lateral) asking himself this question? Asking the question to another person?

Has someone died? Got a divorce? Is going to die soon? A situation where the outcome is either a death or a divorce?

Probate, Divorce and Admiralty Division relevant?
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Posted on Sunday, June 21, 2009 - 3:33 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Anything to do with Star Trek?

Are humans involved? Adults? Male? Female?

One person involved? Two? More?

Location relevant? Time period?
Blackmagic (Blackmagic)
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Posted on Sunday, June 21, 2009 - 4:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is someone (besides those trying to solve the lateral) asking himself this question?this Asking the question to another person?

Has someone died? Got a divorce? Is going to die soon? A situation where the outcome is either a death or a divorce?

Probate, Divorce and Admiralty Division relevant? none to all

Anything to do with Star Trek? no

Are humans involved? Adults? Male? Female? yes to all

One person involved? Two? thisMore?

Location relevant?only this Time period?
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Posted on Sunday, June 21, 2009 - 8:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is someone thinking about getting a divorce? Asking himself/herself whether he/she should get divorced? Someone else should get divorced? Thinking about whether someone has died? Someone will die?

Any kind of fortune telling involved?

"death" means "the end of someone's/something's life"?

"divorce" means "termination of a marriage with both partners staying alife"?
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Posted on Sunday, June 21, 2009 - 8:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is someone thinking about getting a divorce? Asking himself/herself whether he/she should get divorced? Someone else should get divorced? Thinking about whether someone has died?yes Someone will die?

Any kind of fortune telling involved? no

"death" means "the end of someone's/something's life"? yes

"divorce" means "termination of a marriage with both partners staying alife"? yes




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Posted on Sunday, June 21, 2009 - 8:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Someone is thinking about whether someone has died. Let's call this person X.

Is X H/A/M?

Is X also thinking about whether someone was divorced? If so, is "someone" the same person in both cases? Is "someone" a certain person at all?

Does X ask himself the question(s) out of personal interest? professional interest?
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Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 9:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Someone is thinking about whether someone has died. Let's call this person X. nice name

Is X H/A/M? yyn

Is X also thinking about whether someone was divorced? If so, is "someone" the same person in both cases?yes to both Is "someone" a certain person at all? no

Does X ask himself the question(s) out of personal interest? professional interest?this
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Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 11:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ok, now we know X is female we can call her Maria.

So Maria thinks someone must either have died or got divorced? Is she right?

Does Maria assume that the death or divorce took place less than a minute ago? Less than an hour? Less than a day? A week? A month? A year? A century? More than a century?

Does Maria expect to be able to find out whether it was death or divorce? Does she actually do anything (besides asking herself the question) to find out?
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Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 8:15 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is Maria a doctor? Psychologist? Would knowing her profession help to solve this puzzle?
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Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 6:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ok, now we know X is female we can call her Maria.

So Maria thinks someone must either have died or got divorced?yes Is she right? there's no real answer to the question so for simplicity's sake no

Does Maria assume that the death or divorce took place less than a minute ago? Less than an hour? Less than a day? A week? A month? A year?this A century? More than a century?

Does Maria expect to be able to find out whether it was death or divorce? Does she actually do anything (besides asking herself the question) to find out?no to all

Is Maria a doctor? Psychologist?no to both Would knowing her profession help to solve this puzzle?yes
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Posted on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 9:44 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is Maria trying to contact someone? But unable to do so?

Which ist her field of profession? Commerce? Accounting? Law? Public administration? Technology? Research? Education? Artisanry? Publishing/Journalism?
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Posted on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 6:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is Maria trying to contact someone? But unable to do so? irrel

Which ist her field of profession? Commerce? Accounting? Law? Public administration? Technology? Research? Education? Artisanry? Publishing/Journalism?none of these I think
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Is Maria involved in law enforcement? A writer?
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Is Maria involved in law enforcement? A writer?no
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Posted on Thursday, July 02, 2009 - 4:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is Maria's field of profession industry? Tourism? Transport? Gastronomy? Medicine?
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Posted on Saturday, July 04, 2009 - 7:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Which ist her field of profession? Commerce? Accounting? Law? Public administration? Technology? Research? Education? Artisanry? Publishing/Journalism?none of these I think
BLOOPER! BLOOPER!
In the field of artisanry
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Posted on Saturday, July 04, 2009 - 11:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Artisanry. Are jewels relevant?
Blackmagic (Blackmagic)
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Posted on Sunday, July 05, 2009 - 6:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ARGH!
I read that as Artistry.
So to make up for the confusion, she's a singer.
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Posted on Monday, July 06, 2009 - 2:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You said earlier there were two people involved and that the characters are male and female so I assume there is only one other character involved, who is H/A/M? Let's call him Toby.

Is Toby also a singer? Toby is not the person who has either died or got divorced, correct? Do Toby and Maria know each other? Is Toby related to Maria? Married? Is Toby alive?
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Posted on Monday, July 06, 2009 - 5:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You said earlier there were two people involved and that the characters are male and female so I assume there is only one other character involved, who is H/A/M?yes Let's call him Toby.

Is Toby also a singer?yes Toby is not the person who has either died or got divorced, correct?correct Do Toby and Maria know each other? yesIs Toby related to Maria?no Married?no Is Toby alive?yes
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Posted on Monday, July 06, 2009 - 5:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So as a singer, she has a professional interest in whether this person died or got divorced? Is this because she might be hired to sing at his funeral? Does she sing solo? in a choir? freelance? live? on the radio? is she famous? Same questions for Toby.

Does she sing duets with Toby? Compete with him? Are they both members of the same choir? Does their relationship have anything to do with their shared profession? Is Toby the spouse of the person who died or got divorced? Does he care whether the person died or got divorced?
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Posted on Monday, July 06, 2009 - 5:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So as a singer, she has a professional interest in whether this person died or got divorced?pretty much Is this because she might be hired to sing at his funeral? noDoes she sing solo? in a choir? freelance? live? on the radio? is she famous?irrel Same questions for Toby.everything about Toby apart from his job is irrelevant

Does she sing duets with Toby? yesCompete with him?no Are they both members of the same choir?no Does their relationship have anything to do with their shared profession?no Is Toby the spouse of the person who died or got divorced?no Does he care whether the person died or got divorced?no
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Posted on Monday, July 06, 2009 - 6:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is Maria asking herself this question about a real person? Someone with whom she is acquainted? A theoretical person? A fictional person, perhaps described in the lyrics of a song she's singing with Toby? Do we need to know more about Toby besides the fact that he is her duet partner? Is it relevant whether Maria is married?
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Posted on Tuesday, July 07, 2009 - 8:30 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is Maria asking herself this question about a real person? Someone with whom she is acquainted? A theoretical person? A fictional person, perhaps described in the lyrics of a song she's singing with Toby?yes! spoiler coming up! I'll ignore the other questions. Do we need to know more about Toby besides the fact that he is her duet partner? Is it relevant whether Maria is married?
******SPOILER!*************
Maria is Idina Menzel.
Toby is Rhydian Roberts.
This story is set in the mind of Idina. They are singing 'What If'. The lyrics are very unclear whether people are divorcing, or if the man is mourning for his girlfriend who he left dangling off a cliff. Idina, as she's practising, thinks
"Is it death, or divorce?"

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