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Yabblesmacker (Yabblesmacker)
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This is very like an old puzzle, but I've changed the situation.

The laws of physics got the best of her.
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In this context, laws of physics = gravity? Magnetic field? Friction? Momentum?

Does she die?
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In this context, laws of physics = gravity? this Magnetic field? Friction? Momentum?

Does she die? yes
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Did she try to be, I dunno, Wonder Woman? And jump off a cliff to fly? But, oh so unfortunately, gravity had no choice but to spoil the party?

Oh, and I don't know how else to do this, so - people, please do have a look at my puzzle a few titles above this one. You won't have any trouble spotting it - it's nameless as of now.
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The law of gravity caused the most outstanding aspect of her physique to sag?

(Given the polite and erudite company that frequents this forum, I will not be so crass as to use the expression "bodacious ta-ta's")

She had a skydiving accident?
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Does she fall?
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Did she try to be, I dunno, Wonder Woman? And jump off a cliff to fly? But, oh so unfortunately, gravity had no choice but to spoil the party? lol, no

The law of gravity caused the most outstanding aspect of her physique to sag? again, lol, but no

She had a skydiving accident? no

Does she fall? yes

Now that I think of it, although gravity is relevant in more ways than one (one being that she falls) this isn't exactly the 'law of physics' I am referring to. It's definitely none of the others that Logician mentioned though.
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Relevant laws of physics:
Newton's Laws of Motion?
Newton's first Law a/k/a Law of Inertia (object in motion/at rest will remain in motion/at rest until acted upon by a force)?
Newton's second Law?
Newton's third Law (for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction)?
Conservation of mass-energy?
Laws of thermodynamics?
E=mc2?

Would it be more accurate to say she trips (e.g. she's at ground level, missteps, and face plants)? Does she fall from a relatively small height (say, from a ladder)? from a height of more than 20 feet? more than 50 feet? more than 100 feet?

Does the fall kill her? directly? indirectly? Or does the fall cause her to be in a situation where something/someone else kills her (e.g. she falls and finds herself in the middle of a drug deal gone bad, and the dealer shoots her)?

Is the fall basically a vertical change in her position (e.g. fall from a plane, cliff, or ladder)? Or is there a significant horizontal change in her position as well (e.g. fall down a mountain slope)?
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Relevant laws of physics:
Newton's Laws of Motion?
Newton's first Law a/k/a Law of Inertia (object in motion/at rest will remain in motion/at rest until acted upon by a force)?
Newton's second Law?
Newton's third Law (for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction)? THIS.
Conservation of mass-energy?
Laws of thermodynamics?
E=mc2?

Would it be more accurate to say she trips (e.g. she's at ground level, missteps, and face plants)? Does she fall from a relatively small height (say, from a ladder)? from a height of more than 20 feet? more than 50 feet? more than 100 feet? This. Not relevant exactly how far.

Does the fall kill her? yes directly? yes indirectly? Or does the fall cause her to be in a situation where something/someone else kills her (e.g. she falls and finds herself in the middle of a drug deal gone bad, and the dealer shoots her)? no

Is the fall basically a vertical change in her position (e.g. fall from a plane, cliff, or ladder)? this Or is there a significant horizontal change in her position as well (e.g. fall down a mountain slope)?
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Is this fall from an airplane? Helicopter? Hot air balloon? Bird? Something else that flies? Tall building?

Does she jump from whatever-it-is and then discover that the laws of physics prevent her from landing safely? Does she fall as a result of some misjudgment of the laws of physics? Is she having a physics lesson in an airplane, misses an obvious question about Newton's third law, and her teacher is so frustrated he pushes her out of the plane to prove that in fact, her movement is an equal and opposite reaction to his push? Is there any other relevant person?
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Is this fall from an airplane? Helicopter? Hot air balloon? Bird? Something else that flies? Tall building? no to all

Does she jump from whatever-it-is no and then discover that the laws of physics prevent her from landing safely? no Does she fall as a result of some misjudgment of the laws of physics? yesish Is she having a physics lesson in an airplane, misses an obvious question about Newton's third law, and her teacher is so frustrated he pushes her out of the plane to prove that in fact, her movement is an equal and opposite reaction to his push? lol I kinda wish this was the answer but no Is there any other relevant person? no
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Did she throw or move a object, such that the reaction pushed her in the opposite direction? Leading to her fall?
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Did she throw this or move a object, such that the reaction pushed her in the opposite direction? yes Leading to her fall? yesish but not directly
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rope involved? a gun? is she attached to anything? did she throw an object and it came back and hit her causing her to fall? on a bridge? on a mountain? location relevant? profession? boomerang relevant? ball?
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rope involved? no a gun? no is she attached to anything? no did she throw an object and it came back and hit her causing her to fall? no on a bridge? yes! on a mountain? no location relevant? yesish profession? no boomerang relevant? no ball? no
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is what she threw relevant? was it heavy? when she fell, did she fall backwards? any other people relevant? did she jump at any point? did she trip? she wasn't bungee jumping was she? don't remember if that had been asked already.
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is what she threw relevant? yes was it heavy? yes when she fell, did she fall backwards? noish any other people relevant? no did she jump at any point? no did she trip? yope she wasn't bungee jumping was she? no
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did she fall intentionally thinking she would somehow survive? did whatever she through weigh more than she did? was it a body that she threw? was she a criminal? was she hoping to get rid of evidence by throwing this thing off the bridge?
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did she fall intentionally thinking she would somehow survive? no did whatever she through weigh more than she did? no was it a body that she threw? no was she a criminal? yes was she hoping to get rid of evidence by throwing this thing off the bridge? no and maybe FA
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is her being a criminal relevant? she didn't commit suicide? so, she threw this object off the bridge, or attempted to? and the reaction pushed her the opp. direction causing her to fall? did she commit a crime on the bridge and fall attempting to cover up the crime?
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is her being a criminal relevant? yes she didn't commit suicide? no so, she threw this object off the bridge no, or attempted to? no and the reaction pushed her the opp. direction causing her to fall? noish did she commit a crime on the bridge and fall attempting to cover up the crime? no
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is this statement true, she threw an object while on a bridge? she threw an object onto a bridge? was she trying to climb up to the bridge? was she on the bridge when she threw the object? at any point was she hanging from anything?
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is this statement true, she threw an object while on a bridge? yes she threw an object onto a bridge? no was she trying to climb up to the bridge? no was she on the bridge when she threw the object? yes at any point was she hanging from anything? possibly but irrelevant
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did she fall on the bridge from somewhere else, or did she fall from the bridge? was she injured in anyway before she fell? were there witnesses? were the cops present? did she throw a bag of money? is it relevant where she was throwing the money?
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did she fall on the bridge from somewhere else no, or did she fall from the bridge? yesish to this but also something else was she injured in anyway before she fell? no were there witnesses? no were the cops present? no did she throw a bag of money? no is it relevant where she was throwing the money? FA (for money and for 'where')
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Was she throwing something with the purpose of getting rid of it? Did she throw the object(s) over the side of the bridge? Did she ever want to see it/them again? Was she throwing evidence? Was the throwing the crime she committed (like littering or throwing a rock off a bridge onto cars on a highway below)?

Did she die from impact injuries (i.e. hitting the ground after "leaving" the bridge)? Was there anything relevant physically between the bridge and where she ended up? Did she end up on the ground directly-ish below the bridge? Did something relevant happen to her between her yesishly falling from the bridge and her landing? Did she actually eventually land/hit bottom?
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Was she throwing something with the purpose of getting rid of it? no Did she throw the object(s) over the side of the bridge? no Did she ever want to see it/them (this) again? yes Was she throwing evidence? yope Was the throwing the crime she committed (like littering or throwing a rock off a bridge onto cars on a highway below)? no

Did she die from impact injuries (i.e. hitting the ground after "leaving" the bridge)? yes Was there anything relevant physically between the bridge and where she ended up? no Did she end up on the ground directly-ish below the bridge? yes Did something relevant happen to her between her yesishly falling from the bridge and her landing? no Did she actually eventually land/hit bottom? yes
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did she have a vehicle on the bridge? car? bike? truck? other vehicle? relevant?was she broke down? was she throwing something in or to her vehicle? was there construction on the bridge? was she throwing up as in vomiting? did she intend on stopping on the bridge? was she trying to get onto another vehicle like a helicopter and failed to reach it? is there a machine envolved? a crane?
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Is any aspect of her throwing related to her crime? Had she not been on the bridge at this time, throwing what she did, would she still have been a criminal?

Was it a single throw? Of a single item?
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did she have a vehicle on the bridge? no car? bike? truck? other vehicle? relevant?was she broke down? was she throwing something in or to her vehicle? was there construction on the bridge? no was she throwing up as in vomiting? no did she intend on stopping on the bridge? no was she trying to get onto another vehicle like a helicopter and failed to reach it? no is there a machine envolved? no a crane? no

Is any aspect of her throwing related to her crime? no Had she not been on the bridge at this time, throwing what she did, would she still have been a criminal? yes

Was it a single throw? yes Of a single item? yes, but multiple items are involved in the puzzle.
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so was she walking across the bridge? running? did the item she throw hit something before it hit the ground and came back and hit her? any animal/bird involved? she threw muliple items? rocks? balls? metal objects? plastic? paper? wood? is the bridge relevant other that she ended up falling off it?
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Single throw, single item, but multiple items are involved... Does she throw a bag of items? or some other container containing the multiple items?

Just to check, is the bridge we are discussing a multi-lane one used by cars? a one-lane one intended for cars? a pedestrian bridge? a rope bridge? a railway bridge?

Is she in a vehicle of some kind while she is on the bridge?
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Were her feet on the ground when she threw the thing?
She was a criminal even before coming to the bridge?
Is her being a criminal relevant?
Is the thing that she threw relevant?
Is momentum conservation or any other laws of physics relevant direcly?
Did she have a gun?
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so was she walking across the bridge? running? this did the item she throw hit something before it hit the ground and came back and hit her? no and FA any animal/bird involved? no she threw muliple items? no rocks? balls? metal objects? this plastic? paper? wood? is the bridge relevant other that she ended up falling off it? yes

Single throw, single item, but multiple items are involved... Does she throw a bag of items? or some other container containing the multiple items? no to all. She only throws one single item (no multiple items within a single), but multiple items are involved in the puzzle.

Just to check, is the bridge we are discussing a multi-lane one used by cars? a one-lane one intended for cars? a pedestrian bridge? a rope bridge? this! a railway bridge?

Is she in a vehicle of some kind while she is on the bridge? no

Were her feet on the ground when she threw the thing? do you mean on the ground or the bridge?
She was a criminal even before coming to the bridge? yes
Is her being a criminal relevant? yesish, just to make the situation more believable. The puzzle could work if she wasn't though.
Is the thing that she threw relevant? same as previous answer.
Is momentum conservation or any other laws of physics relevant direcly? none other than already specified
Did she have a gun? irr
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i rope bridge eh? i thought i had asked if rope was involved and you said no. oh well...did the rope bridge break? did whatever she throw hit the ground? fall to the bridge? get swooped up by something? is why she is running relevant? is she running from something/someone? towards?did she cut the rope bridge? the metal object that she threw-a knife? something that cut the bridge? attached to her? was she trying to throw it to the other side of the bridge? other object(s) involved? weapon of any kind? shoes? tree?
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Did she throw the metal object upwards? downwards? laterally?
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i rope bridge eh? i thought i had asked if rope was involved and you said no. oh sorry! I suppose I was thinking of a piece of rope, which isn't involved. Sorry for the confusion! oh well...did the rope bridge break? yes! did whatever she throw hit the ground? yes, eventually fall to the bridge? no get swooped up by something? no is why she is running relevant? not really is she running from something/someone? towards? did she cut the rope bridge? no the metal object that she threw-a knife? no something that cut the bridge? no attached to her? no was she trying to throw it to the other side of the bridge? no other object(s) involved? one other object is involved. weapon of any kind? shoes? tree? no to these

Did she throw the metal object upwards? yes! downwards? laterally?
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Okay, so if she threw it upwards, it came back to her, and it didn't hit the bridge, that kind of limits the possibilities. Did she catch it? Did it come down to one side of the bridge? Did it hit her? If this, did it injure her prior to her fall? Was she knocked unconscious?

Did the bridge give out from the force she exerted on it in throwing the object? Meaning that by the time the object came down, the bridge had already given out and she was falling? Or did it give out at the time of the object's impact?

Does the other relevant object have to do with a way of catching the object? The reason why she threw it in the first place? Did she intend for it to come back down to her? to the bridge? to whatever was underneath the bridge? Or did she intend for it to remain in the air, perhaps caught by a flying accomplice?
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Okay, so if she threw it upwards, it came back to her, and it didn't hit the bridge, that kind of limits the possibilities. Did she catch it? Did it come down to one side of the bridge? Did it hit her? If this, did it injure her prior to her fall? Was she knocked unconscious? see below

Did the bridge give out from the force she exerted on it in throwing the object? yes! Meaning that by the time the object came down, the bridge had already given out and she was falling? yes Or did it give out at the time of the object's impact?

Does the other relevant object have to do with a way of catching the object? no The reason why she threw it in the first place? yope Did she intend for it to come back down to her? this to the bridge? to whatever was underneath the bridge? Or did she intend for it to remain in the air, perhaps caught by a flying accomplice?
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Alright, well, I guess the laws of physics part is pretty much solved, and we just have to figure out why she was running across a rope bridge throwing a metal object in the air. Seems like silly behavior.

Was she concerned about her ability to cross the bridge while carrying this object? Was it heavy enough to be notably difficult to carry while running? Was it... tiny (staple)? quite small (paper clip)? small (stapler)? smallish (handgun)? medium (bowling ball)? largish (computer)? large (barrel)? larger than a barrel?

Were either of the relevant objects stolen? Was her crime larceny? murder? manslaughter? kidnapping? white collar? sabotage? some kind of misdemeanor? In running across the bridge, was she trying to get to a specific place? Or just running away from something or someone?
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Alright, well, I guess the laws of physics part is pretty much solved, and we just have to figure out why she was running across a rope bridge throwing a metal object in the air. Seems like silly behavior.

Was she concerned about her ability to cross the bridge while carrying this object? YES. Was it heavy enough to be notably difficult to carry while running? no Was it... tiny (staple)? quite small (paper clip)? small (stapler)? smallish (handgun)? probably this, doesn't matter too much medium (bowling ball)? largish (computer)? large (barrel)? larger than a barrel?

Were either of the relevant objects stolen? yes Was her crime larceny? yes murder? manslaughter? kidnapping? white collar? sabotage? some kind of misdemeanor? In running across the bridge, was she trying to get to a specific place? Or just running away from something or someone? irrelevant, probably both
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was the shape of the object relevant? did she in some way cause the bridge to break? did either of the objects cause it to break? did she throw the object after the bridge broke? there are two relevant objects, right? did she steal both of them? was she trying to throw the object up, while the bridge was breaking hoping to recover it? did one side of the rope bridge break there for the other side was still connected and she tried to climb up? did when she threw the object up, the opposite force cause her do lose grip of the rope bridge? otrt?? did either of the items cause the bridge to break? did her weight cause the bridge to break
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Posted on Saturday, July 11, 2009 - 7:42 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If only one of the objects was stolen, was it the one she threw? the other one? Is/are the stolen object(s) valuable in terms of money? sentimental value? easily breakable?

Was there a weight limit on the bridge that she would exceed if she got to the middle holding the object? And so (stupidly) she threw it, hoping to catch it after crossing the bridge? Did she need both hands to hold onto the ropes? Does it matter what kind of metal it's made out of? Magnetism relevant? It's not any kind of weapon? Is it a small safe? Is its primary function a container? an entertainment object? something to wear? something valuable and nobody knows why, like a stamp collection? a decoration? something to perform a necessary function to daily life? something useful?
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was the shape of the object relevant? yesish did she in some way cause the bridge to break? did either of the objects cause it to break? did she throw the object after the bridge broke? Assume as ohlala said she throws the object up and the reaction of her throwing it down into the bridge causes it to break. there are two relevant objects, right? yes did she steal both of them? yes was she trying to throw the object up, while the bridge was breaking hoping to recover it? no did one side of the rope bridge break there for the other side was still connected and she tried to climb up? irrelevant did when she threw the object up, the opposite force cause her do lose grip of the rope bridge? no otrt?? did either of the items cause the bridge to break? did her weight cause the bridge to break? not just her weight

If only one of the objects was stolen, was it the one she threw? the other one? both Is/are the stolen object(s) valuable in terms of money? this sentimental value? easily breakable? no

Was there a weight limit on the bridge yes! that she would exceed if she got to the middle holding the object? yesish And so (stupidly) she threw it, hoping to catch it after crossing the bridge? not quite but OTRT Did she need both hands to hold onto the ropes? no Does it matter what kind of metal it's made out of? yes there is definitely a certain metal, although actually it would work with any. Magnetism relevant? no It's not any kind of weapon? Is it a small safe? Is its primary function a container? an entertainment object? something to wear? something valuable and nobody knows why, like a stamp collection? a decoration? this, probably, no to rest something to perform a necessary function to daily life? something useful?
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Was it gold? Did the combined weight of the metal and herself exceed the bridge weight limit? Was she juggling? Did she think that by throwing the object up while she was crossing the bridge, she would avoid exceeding the weight limit?
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Posted on Saturday, July 11, 2009 - 9:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was it gold? yes Did the combined weight of the metal and herself exceed the bridge weight limit? yes Was she juggling? YES! Did she think that by throwing the object up while she was crossing the bridge, she would avoid exceeding the weight limit? yes!

Good questions, you're very close!
Sugarshane (Sugarshane)
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Posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 9:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

do we need to figure out what the other object is to solve? anyway, my guess....shes running across the bridge juggling the gold and the other object or objects when she trips and the items fall either on her or on the bridge exceeding the weight limit and the bridge breaks and she falls to her death? close? more to figure out? maybe she should have slowed down!!
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do we need to figure out what the other object is to solve? anyway, my guess....shes running across the bridge juggling the gold and the other object or objects when she trips and the items fall either on her or on the bridge exceeding the weight limit and the bridge breaks and she falls to her death? close? more to figure out? maybe she should have slowed down!! just the physics stuff is a bit out here. hint: the two objects are identical!
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Okay, so she stole two gold objects (gold bars, maybe?) and if she crossed the bridge carrying both of them, she would exceed the weight limit. So she tried to cross the bridge while juggling them, thinking that since she would never be holding both at once, she would be okay. Unfortunately, there are two major flaws in this plan. First of all, a falling object exerts more force when it lands than it does when stationary. Second of all, when you throw something upwards, you exert a proportional force downwards. Either of these additional forces on the bridge could have overwhelmed its weight limit. Is this enough? Or did something happen that upset her juggling?
Sugarshane (Sugarshane)
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good thinking ohlala8!
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Okay, so she stole two gold objects (gold bars, maybe?) and if she crossed the bridge carrying both of them, she would exceed the weight limit. So she tried to cross the bridge while juggling them, thinking that since she would never be holding both at once, she would be okay. Unfortunately, there are two major flaws in this plan. First of all, a falling object exerts more force when it lands than it does when stationary. Second of all, when you throw something upwards, you exert a proportional force downwards. Either of these additional forces on the bridge could have overwhelmed its weight limit. Is this enough? Or did something happen that upset her juggling? Nope, that's pretty much it!!!

***SPOILER***

This is adapted from a classic puzzle in which a woman is running through the jungle having just stolen two priceless solid gold balls. She comes to a rope bridge which has a weight limit. Holding both gold balls she exceeds the weight limit but holding only one she is ok. So she decides to juggle the balls as she crosses, because then she will only ever be holding one.
But what she doesn't realise is that in order to give one of the balls an acceleration upwards, the resultant force acting on the ball has to be acting upwards, and therefore she has to exert an upwards force on the ball greater than its own weight. According to Newton's third law of motion every action has an equal and opposite reaction, so as she throws the ball upwards she exerts an equal downwards force on the bridge. This causes the weight limit to be exceeded. The bridge breaks and she falls to her death.

Ohlala's point about falling objects exerting more force when they land than when stationary was not part of my solution but that is also true!!!

Thanks for playing everyone! Please check out my new puzzle at the bottom of the page!!!
Sugarshane (Sugarshane)
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Posted on Tuesday, July 14, 2009 - 9:23 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

this is one of my favorites that i've seen on here in my short time. nice puzzle yabblesmacker!

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