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Priscilla's inquiring mind harmed her father, although she did not damage any physical object or learn anything that it harmed him for her to know. How come?
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Harmed him physically? (If so, was he killed? injured? sickened?) emotionally? financially?

Her inquiring mind got her accepted into Harvard, and then her father had to pay tuition?
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Judaism relevant? Nazi-ism? Any political party?

Did she harm her father by asking questions? repeating something? telling a story? a lie? telling a hypothetical situation that was believed to be about her father? writing something? typing something? giving a presentation?

Did she engage in a physical action that led to harming him - ie leaving a substance somewhere that it was mistaken for another substance, or where it would be exposed to conditions that would enable it to cause harm, such as emitting toxic gas or exploding?
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Is Priscilla H/A/F
And her father H/A/M?

Is mind her brain?
Is "she" and "her" pronouns of Priscilla?
Does "him" mean her father?
Is it her real biological father?
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Harmed him physically?possibly but not necessarily (If so, was he killed? injured? sickened? could be any of these) emotionally? yes financially? possibly but not necessarily

Her inquiring mind got her accepted into Harvard, and then her father had to pay tuition? no
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Judaism relevant? no Nazi-ism? no Any political party? no

Did she harm her father by asking questions?b{ yes
repeating something? no telling a story? noa lie? notelling a hypothetical situation that was believed to be about her father? yesish writing something? notyping something? no giving a presentation? no

Did she engage in a physical action that led to harming him - ie leaving a substance somewhere that it was mistaken for another substance, or where it would be exposed to conditions that would enable it to cause harm, such as emitting toxic gas or exploding? no
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Is Priscilla H yes/A no/F yes
And her father H/A/M? yes to all

Is mind her brain? yes
Is "she" and "her" pronouns of Priscilla? yes
Does "him" mean her father? yes
Is it her real biological father?real: yes, biological (as opposed to adoptive: irrel
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Was she reminding her father of something by asking him a question?
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Was she reminding her father of something by asking him a question?no
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Did she get her father in trouble? Are more people than her and her father involved? Her mother? Teachers? Friends? Bystanders?

Is this a singular event, or does it occur over a period of time? Is it a series of events?

Are the location or era relevant? If location is relevant, general (ie a store, home, on the street) or specific (ie at the White House, or London, or China)? If era is relevant, LTPF list of centuries, please

Is a scrund involved?

Is she curious about something it would be wiser for her not to know?

Are Priscilla and her father physically together at the time of the incident?
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Did she get her father in trouble? yes Are more people than her and her father involved? yes Her mother? no Teachers? yesFriends? no Bystanders? no

Is this a singular event, or does it occur over a period of time?closer to the latter Is it a series of events? yope

Are the location or era relevant? both are relevant If location is relevant, general (ie a store, home, on the street) or specific (ie at the White House, or London, or China)? If era is relevant, LTPF list of centuries, please It occurs in school in the USA & must be pretty recent (within the last 20-25 years or so

Is a scrund involved?no

Is she curious about something it would be wiser for her not to know? no

Are Priscilla and her father physically together at the time of the incident?not in the same room, but she's still as child living with her parents
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are computers relevant? the internet? pornography?
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are computers relevant? no the internet? no pornography? no
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Did Priscilla ask her teachers a question? Or ask a question in a teacher's hearing? Did her teachers misinterpret Priscilla's question? Or take it as a sign of something it wasn't? Anything to do with child abuse?
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Does the father land in legal trouble? Is he arrested? If so, is he guilty of the crime that he's suspected of? Is he guilty of some other crime?

Does Priscilla ask only one question? Does she ask something about an activity that she doesn't know to be illegal? Does she ask a question about her father specifically?
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Did Priscilla ask her teachers a question? yes Or ask a question in a teacher's hearing? see previous answer Did her teachers misinterpret Priscilla's question? see next answer Or take it as a sign of something it wasn't? yes Anything to do with child abuse? yes
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Does the father land in legal trouble yes Is he arrested? possiblyIf so, is he guilty of the crime that he's suspected of? no Is he guilty of some other crime? no

Does Priscilla ask only one question? yes Does she ask something about an activity that she doesn't know to be illegal? noDoes she ask a question about her father specifically? no
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HINT: Find out the exact context in which Priscilla asked the question.
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Does she ask a general question? something specific about her father? herself?

Is she at school?

Is it during a classroom talk about child abuse?
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Does she see an action take place and then ask something about it? Or hear someone say something and then ask a question regarding that?
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Does she ask a general question? yessomething specific about her father? no herself? no


Is she at school? yes

Is it during a classroom talk about child abuse? yes
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Does she see an action take place and then ask something about it? no Or hear someone say something and then ask a question regarding that? yes
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So she asked a question that made it seem like her father abused her? Did she ask how to report someone? Something related to actions a child would take after being abused? Whether a specific action was abuse? Something related to her father? Relevant that it's her father and not her mother who was indicated?
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So she asked a question that made it seem like her father abused her? yes Did she ask how to report someone? yesishSomething related to actions a child would take after being abused? yes Whether a specific action was abuse? no Something related to her father? no Relevant that it's her father and not her mother who was indicated? no
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Did she ask for the phone number/website of an abuse hotline? Did she ask something about what constitutes abuse? Or how to escape it?

Is the type of abuse being discussed relevant? Did her question seem to indicate that a certain type of abuse was taking place (physical, verbal, sexual, neglect, etc.)?
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Did she ask for the phone number/website of an abuse hotline? noDid she ask something about what constitutes abuse? no Or how to escape it? no

Is the type of abuse being discussed relevant? yesish Did her question seem to indicate that a certain type of abuse was taking place (physical, verbal, sexual, neglect, etc.)? The whole discussion was about sexual abuse. Is "verbal abuse" (i.e., saying mean things) a crime? I hope America's First Amendment doesn't apply only to people who say nice things!)
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was she sexually abused? by her dad? did she not remember her? had her dad ever been sexually? was her dad guilt-strucken?
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was she sexually abused? by her dad? no did she not remember her? n/ahad her dad ever been sexually? no was her dad guilt-strucken? no
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was she sexually abused? no by her dad? no did she not remember her? n/ahad her dad ever been sexually? no was her dad guilt-strucken? no
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so no abuse ever took place? the teachers falsely assumed that sexual abuse was happening to her by her father specificly and reported him? did she mention her father in the question? did someone find out of this and harm him or try to harm him? the mother? is the mother relevant?
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so no abuse ever took place? correct the teachers falsely assumed that sexual abuse was happening to her by her father specificly and reported him? yes did she mention her father in the question? nodid someone find out of this and harm him or try to harm him? possibly the mother? no is the mother relevant? no
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Did she ask, "My dad makes me (do something). Is that wrong?" And we have to figure out what "something" is?

Did Priscilla ask a sexual question? If not, did she ask something with a double entendre? Without realizing it?

Does Priscilla's father have sex with anyone? Or with himself? And Priscilla catches him?

Has Priscilla's father had "the talk" about sex with P already? About boys?

Does the teacher accuse him of physical sexual abuse? Or something nonphysical, like voyeurism?

Is dirty talk relevant? S/M toys?

Is she in preschool? Kindergarten? 1st grade? etc.
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Did she ask, "My dad makes me (do something). Is that wrong?no And we have to figure out what "something" is? no

Did Priscilla ask a sexual question? noIf not, did she ask something with a double entendre? yesish Without realizing it? yes

Does Priscilla's father have sex with anyone? Well, presumably with his wife, but that's irrel Or with himself? irrel And Priscilla catches him? no

Has Priscilla's father had "the talk" about sex with P already? irrel About boys? irrel

Does the teacher accuse him of physical sexual abuse? yes Or something nonphysical, like voyeurism? no

Is dirty talk relevant? noS/M toys? no

Is she in preschool? Kindergarten? 1st grade? etc. She's probably in first or second grade
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I'm not sure about the legality of verbal abuse, but I'm pretty sure that to qualify, it has to be more than just "saying mean things." If someone has a child and constantly goes out of his way to make that child feel small and worthless, that could be a lot more psychologically damaging than physical abuse. Free speech is one thing, but parents need to be held responsible for their children's psychological as well as physical well-being. We now return you to your regularly scheduled puzzle.

So this is during a classroom talk about sexual abuse, but is her question (as she intends it) about sexual abuse? Is it about her particular situation? Is it a hypothetical? Does it relate to someone she knows?

In the talk, are they using euphemisms (e.g. "private parts")? Does she misunderstand the meaning of something that is said? Does she then ask about it in the context in which she understands it, but it's interpreted in the context it was meant? Is she deceived by one of the many lies we tell children (e.g. babies are delivered by storks)?
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I'm not sure about the legality of verbal abuse, but I'm pretty sure that to qualify, it has to be more than just "saying mean things." If someone has a child and constantly goes out of his way to make that child feel small and worthless, that could be a lot more psychologically damaging than physical abuse. Free speech is one thing, but parents need to be held responsible for their children's psychological as well as physical well-being. We now return you to your regularly scheduled puzzle. I'm not sure about the legality here either, but I'd hate to have parents' speech policed to make sure that it is conducive to children's "psychological well-being."Do you really want the government telling parents how to talk to their children & punishing those who don't conform? It is bad to make children feel worthless, but only a totalitarian society can criminalize all immoral behavior

So this is during a classroom talk about sexual abuse, but is her question (as she intends it) about sexual abuse?yes Is it about her particular situation? noIs it a hypothetical? yesDoes it relate to someone she knows? no

In the talk, are they using euphemisms (e.g. "private parts")? irrel Does she misunderstand the meaning of something that is said? no Does she then ask about it in the context in which she understands it, but it's interpreted in the context it was meant? noIs she deceived by one of the many lies we tell children (e.g. babies are delivered by storks)? no
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I mean, this probably isn't something to argue about here, so I'm going to say one more thing, and then if you want we can take it into the discussion forum. I'm not advocating the thought police here. Parents' conduct isn't policed as such either, but if a child shows up at school with a black eye that he/she can't explain, that's a problem, and maybe the police step in. Verbal abuse has less visible effects, but if at the first sign of conflict the kid curls up into a fetal position, that's also a problem that needs to be addressed, by the police or family counselors or somebody. At the same time, a lot of it's up to the kids themselves to report, which makes it really subjective and difficult to deal with effectively.

Do we need to figure out the specific words she uses? Is the problem that she's asking a hypothetical question and her phrasing is ambiguous enough that they think she's asking about herself? Do they think that she's asking it as a hypothetical because she's afraid to admit that it's about her (like when people say "my friend has this problem...")? Or are they aware that it's a hypothetical? Since it related to how a child might report abuse, did she ask the question and then say or do something that suggested she was applying the recommended method? Is the response to her question relevant? Anything that was said before she asked the question relevant? Or is the story basically "Roxanne's class was having a talk about sexual abuse. Roxanne, a curious child, asked "question, question, question," which the teachers interpreted to mean that she was being abused by her father. He then got in trouble."?
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I mean, this probably isn't something to argue about here, so I'm going to say one more thing, and then if you want we can take it into the discussion forum. I'm not advocating the thought police here. Parents' conduct isn't policed as such either, but if a child shows up at school with a black eye that he/she can't explain, that's a problem, and maybe the police step in. Verbal abuse has less visible effects, but if at the first sign of conflict the kid curls up into a fetal position, that's also a problem that needs to be addressed, by the police or family counselors or somebody. At the same time, a lot of it's up to the kids themselves to report, which makes it really subjective and difficult to deal with effectively. We probably shouldn't go into this here, but willpower has never been my strong point. I think that physical violence is & ought to be illegal, but mean & vicious speech should not be. That sort of distinction is what underlies the First Amendment, although I've admitted I don't know the actual legal status of "emotional abuse."

Do we need to figure out the specific words she uses? noIs the problem that she's asking a hypothetical question and her phrasing is ambiguous enough that they think she's asking about herself? yes Do they think that she's asking it as a hypothetical because she's afraid to admit that it's about her (like when people say "my friend has this problem...")? yes Or are they aware that it's a hypothetical? no Since it related to how a child might report abuse, did she ask the question and then say or do something that suggested she was applying the recommended method? no Is the response to her question relevant? yope Anything that was said before she asked the question relevant?yes Or is the story basically "Roxanne's class was having a talk about sexual abuse. Roxanne, a curious child, asked "question, question, question," which the teachers interpreted to mean that she was being abused by her father. He then got in trouble."?No, you should find out just what the teacher said right before Roxanne asked the question & just what question R then asked. That should be easy.
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See the chatroom.
In other news... right before Roxanne asked the question, was the teacher defining sexual abuse? Saying that if the children felt something wasn't right they should tell someone? Encouraging them to come to her if they felt they couldn't tell anyone else? Describing the procedures that authorities will take if they suspect sexual abuse? Telling the children that it's not their fault? Was her main intent at this point in the talk to reassure? to inform? or to encourage report?
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did the teacher ask a question? or give a piece of information(before the question R asks)? did R's question involve any of these words? sleep? touch? bed? pet? feel?
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See the chatroom. Thanks--I did. See my response there.
In other news... right before Roxanne asked the question, was the teacher defining sexual abuse? noSaying that if the children felt something wasn't right they should tell someone? yesishEncouraging them to come to her if they felt they couldn't tell anyone else? no Describing the procedures that authorities will take if they suspect sexual abuse? no Telling the children that it's not their fault? no Was her main intent at this point in the talk to reassure? see next answer bit one to inform? see next answer or to encourage report? yes
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did the teacher ask a question? no or give a piece of information(before the question R asks)? no did R's question involve any of these words? sleep? touch? bed? pet? feel? none
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Was the teacher telling them how to report abuse? telling them that they should report abuse by telling their parents about it? And then R asked what to do if the parents are the ones doing the abusing?
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(I mean P, not R. R is in the other puzzle.)
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Was the teacher telling them how to report abuse? yes telling them that they should report abuse by telling their parents about it? yes And then R asked what to do if the parents are the ones doing the abusing? yes

**** SPOILER ****************
When an elementary school teacher told first graders to tell their parents if someone touched them the wrong way, Roxanne felt very clever when she asked, "What if it's your parents who are doing the bad touching?" She just thought she was scoring points off the teacher. Little did she suspect that this would set off an investigation of her totally harmless father. This is adapted from a "Law & Order SVA " episode where a schoolchild asked this question, But her father, unlike Roxanne's, was abusive. Please check out my brand-new replacement puzzle!
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Ah, that does seem like such a likely thing for a kid to say. Good puzzle!

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