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Gourami (Gourami)
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Why did so many pirates wear eyepatches?

Note: this is an honest and straightforward question, and the answer, as far as I know, is true. If you happen to know, please don't give it away!
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Any work of art relevant?

Is the puzzle statement true? Ie. do you really want us to find out why pirates wore eyepatches? And do you really mean the note in italics?
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The joke is that they had an itch and forgot which hand had the hook...
but I'm guessing that's not it since not that many pirates actually had hooks. Correct?
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Alhucema (Alhucema)

Any work of art relevant? No.

Is the puzzle statement true? Ie. do you really want us to find out why pirates wore eyepatches? Yes. And do you really mean the note in italics? I do indeed.

Noel (Noel)

The joke is that they had an itch and forgot which hand had the hook...
but I'm guessing that's not it since not that many pirates actually had hooks. Correct? Correct. Funny though.
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Are any/all of the seven deadly sins relevant?

If so, is the relevant one:

-lust?
- gluttony?
-greed?
- sloth
-wrath?
- envy?
- pride?

other?
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Is injury relevant? Sunshine? Other light sources?
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Alhucema (Alhucema)

Are any/all of the seven deadly sins relevant? No. Just a good pirate song.

If so, is the relevant one:

-lust?
- gluttony?
-greed? This...
- sloth
-wrath? and this are vaguely related, but might not help you.
- envy?
- pride?

other?

Noel (Noel)

Is injury relevant? No. Sunshine? Yes! Other light sources? No.
Alhucema (Alhucema)
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Sunglasses relevant?

Did they actually wear patches only if their eyes were damaged? Or did they wear them on good eyes as well?
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Alhucema (Alhucema)

Sunglasses relevant? No.

Did they actually wear patches only if their eyes were damaged? No. Or did they wear them on good eyes as well? YES.
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I realized that I've heard this before, so I'm bowing out. Good idea for a puzzle.
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Thank you, Noel.
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To protect them from sunshine? Perhaps to give one eye a little rest while he was looking with the other?

Would they wear the patch always on the same eye?
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Alhucema (Alhucema)

To protect them from sunshine? Yesish, explore. Perhaps to give one eye a little rest while he was looking with the other? Noish.

Would they wear the patch always on the same eye? No.
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This really is a great idea for a puzzle, truly educational! I don't see a connection yet with the title of the puzzle, so it will be interesting to see if that emerges during the questioning.
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So they would wear the patch alternatively on both eyes?

Three-dimensional vision relevant?

Were the patches transparent?

Were they worn to protect the eye(s)?
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Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)

This really is a great idea for a puzzle, truly educational! I'm glad other people have heard it, because I wasn't sure if it was true. I don't see a connection yet with the title of the puzzle, so it will be interesting to see if that emerges during the questioning. No real connection, just the title of a great song about pirates.

Alhucema (Alhucema)

So they would wear the patch alternatively on both eyes? At certain times, yes.

Three-dimensional vision relevant? No.

Were the patches transparent? No.

Were they worn to protect the eye(s)? Not really.
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Were the pirates wearing the patches for the effect the patches were likely to cause
- on themselves
- on other people

Was the purpose they were wearing them real? Imaginary? A superstition?
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Alhucema (Alhucema)

Were the pirates wearing the patches for the effect the patches were likely to cause
- on themselves This.
- on other people

Was the purpose they were wearing them real? Yes. Imaginary? A superstition? No.
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Did they want to protect themselves?

Would it work on land as well (as opposed ot the sea?) Would it work as well on me? You?
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Alhucema (Alhucema)

Did they want to protect themselves? Yope.

Would it work on land as well (as opposed ot the sea?) No. Would it work as well on me? You? If we were in their situation, yes.
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Would it work on land as well (as opposed ot the sea?) No. Are you sure it would not work on land in similar circumatances?
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Sun reflection on water relevant?
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Would it work on land as well (as opposed ot the sea?) No. Are you sure it would not work on land in similar circumatances? Similar circumstances would not occur on land. It could be useful for the same reason on land, yes, but probably less often.

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Sun reflection on water relevant? No.
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Are they assumed to be IN water at any relevant point of time?
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Are they assumed to be IN water at any relevant point of time? Nope.
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Are any characteristics of water relevant? The fact they are afloat?

Would it be similarly useful in the open sea as close to land?

Would it be useful just for pirates? Or for ordinary sailors, too?
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Alhucema (Alhucema)

Are any characteristics of water relevant? No. The fact they are afloat? Noish.

Would it be similarly useful in the open sea as close to land? Yes.

Would it be useful just for pirates? Especially for them. Or for ordinary sailors, too? It might be helpful, but not as crucial.
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They wanted to yopishly protect themselves from:
A natural phenomenon?
People?
Animals?
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They wanted to yopishly protect themselves from:
A natural phenomenon?
People? This, though "natural phenomenon is more directly related to the eyepatches.
Animals?
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**********CLARIFICATION

Thank you, Dropofahat, for the e-mail. I see the confusion now.

For the question:

Would it work on land as well (as opposed ot the sea?) No.

The mechanism being employed is not dependant on being at sea rather than on land. It is simply that pirates would only use eyepatches for this purpose on the sea; there wouldn't be cause to use them (except under very unusual circumstances) on land.
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Does it have something to do with the glare of the sun reflecting off the water?

Maybe (just a guess) they would cover one eye with a patch while looking at a bright spot of water to prevent the pupil in that eye from constricting? thereby ensuring that they could switch to that eye if they had to suddenly look at something in the shade?
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Did only pirates do this? or more or less all sailors? was the eyepatch of thin cloth? so that it did not block vision completely but filtered out the very bright light? so it became easier to watch the horizon? and to locate the sun (when using a sextant)?
Did they wear the eyepatch alternatively on both eyes? was the reason simply to protect the eyes from the sunlight? (I've heard once that before the invention of sunglasses many sailors eventually got blind just from being exposed to tropical sunlight for many years.)
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Does it have something to do with the glare of the sun reflecting off the water? Not specifically.

Maybe (just a guess) they would cover one eye with a patch while looking at a bright spot of water to prevent the pupil in that eye from constricting? Not water specifically, but yes. thereby ensuring that they could switch to that eye if they had to suddenly look at something in the shade? Yes! And when would they do this?

Mimino (Mimino)

Did only pirates do this? I'm not sure. or more or less all sailors? For other sailors it wouldn't be such a necessity. was the eyepatch of thin cloth? No. so that it did not block vision completely but filtered out the very bright light? so it became easier to watch the horizon? and to locate the sun (when using a sextant)? No to rest.

Did they wear the eyepatch alternatively on both eyes? At times, yes. was the reason simply to protect the eyes from the sunlight? Yope.(I've heard once that before the invention of sunglasses many sailors eventually got blind just from being exposed to tropical sunlight for many years.)
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Do they wear the eyepatches all the time?

Do they do this to help them see differently/better?

To help them see distance better?

Does it have to do with any other people?

Does it relate not to their eyepatches, but to their eyes adjusting to light?

How long it takes?

Back and forth between light and dark?

Day and night?

Above deck and below deck?
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Do they wear the eyepatches all the time? Not necessarily.

Do they do this to help them see differently/better? Yes.

To help them see distance better? No.

Does it have to do with any other people? Yesish.

Does it relate not to their eyepatches, but to their eyes adjusting to light? Yes.

How long it takes? Yes.

Back and forth between light and dark? Yes!

Day and night?

Above deck and below deck? This!
Now all you need is how it works/why it's important for them.
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So I'm assuming (this is usually a mistake in these things!) they use it to adjust between above and below deck by switching which eye it's on, it that correct?

Is it so they can see land?
Navigate correctly?
People?
Enemies?
Animals?
Is it so they can shoot their guns with good aim?
Shooting birds?
Shooting at other pirates/people?
Any other kind of attacking/pillaging!?

Arggggg, I guess I'll have to wait another day for me ansrrr's!
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So I'm assuming (this is usually a mistake in these things!) they use it to adjust between above and below deck by switching which eye it's on, it that correct? Yes!

Is it so they can see land?
Navigate correctly?
People? Yes...
Enemies?
Animals?
Is it so they can shoot their guns with good aim?
Shooting birds?
Shooting at other pirates/people?
Any other kind of attacking/pillaging Definitely close enough for a spoilarrrr!!?

Arggggg, I guess I'll have to wait another day for me ansrrr's! Aye, I guess I was earrrrrly.

*********SPOILARRRRRR

Pirates would cover one eye so that that pupil would dilate completely, adjusting to low light. In other words, that eye would have perfect night vision. When attacking another ship, pirates would often have to go directly from the bright sunlight to the darkness below deck. While making this transition, they would switch which eye the eyepatch was on. This way, they didn't have to wait the full minute before their eyes adjusted to the dim light; if they did, someone could easily attack and kill them during this minute, when they would be practically blind.
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Awesome puzzle, I always dig yours! And also, nice title with your other puzzle "paperback writer" starring "Paul", I thought that was a nice touch. Haha. Check out mine if you get a chance called "It's good to be back!" I have been away from the forum for a few years and it certainly is good to be back! =)
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Thank you! All my puzzles are named after song lyrics, and I try to have the character names reflect 'em. Yours looks like a challenge; I'll do my best.
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Soldiers use a similar principal on check points. They close one eye as a car headlights approach to preserve their night vision.

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