/Alhucema/ Thank you, Sunshine! Log Out | Topics | Search
Moderators | Register | Edit Profile

Lateral Puzzles » Solved Lateral Thinking Puzzles » Solved Puzzles - August 2009 » /Alhucema/ Thank you, Sunshine! « Previous Next »

Author Message
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member
Username: Alhucema

Post Number: 497
Registered: 11-2008
Posted on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 7:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Anna is sitting in an expensive London restaurant with her boss. They are just having a heated discussion - the boss wants to fire Anna, she argues why she should continue to work for his company.

Suddenly a man enters the restaurant, and is seated at a table nearby. Anna rises, goes towards him, they have a short conversation, the man smiles and gives Anna a flower from the vase on the table.

Anna then returns to her boss. He asks her several questions, which she answers. Technically, she is not lying.

When Anna calls some time later to the head office of the company, she is told she is NOT fired.

How come?
Indianforce (Indianforce)
New member
Username: Indianforce

Post Number: 108
Registered: 4-2009
Posted on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 8:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Boss is M? F? Relevant?

(I'm assuming they're all humans and not cyborgs on another galaxy, so I won't go through the HAM stuff.)

Anna's profession relevant? If so, LTPF list of professions.

Relevant that the restaurant is expensive? Perhaps to indicate that Anna earns a substantial amount of money?

Does Anna know the man? Does her boss? Is the man famous?

Is Anna justified in arguing (initially) that she wants to continue working? Is the boss (initially) justified in wanting to fire her? Is he justified in not wanting to do so later?

Does the boss ask Anna questions related to her rendezvous with the man?

Is the fact that it's in London relevant?
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member
Username: Alhucema

Post Number: 499
Registered: 11-2008
Posted on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 8:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Boss is M? F? Relevant? Male, not relevant

(I'm assuming they're all humans and not cyborgs on another galaxy, so I won't go through the HAM stuff.) :-))

Anna's profession relevant? Not really If so, LTPF list of professions.

Relevant that the restaurant is expensive? Only slightly Perhaps to indicate that Anna earns a substantial amount of money? Probably this, and also you are likely to meet certain people there; however, it could basically work in any restaurant

Does Anna know the man? Yesish Does her boss? Yesish Is the man famous? Yes

Is Anna justified in arguing (initially) that she wants to continue working? Irrelevant Is the boss (initially) justified in wanting to fire her? I do not know Is he justified in not wanting to do so later? From his own point of view, yes

Does the boss ask Anna questions related to her rendezvous with the man? Yes

Is the fact that it's in London relevant? Only because it is more likely that they should coincide in one restaurant; basically, it would work in any other location
Indianforce (Indianforce)
New member
Username: Indianforce

Post Number: 111
Registered: 4-2009
Posted on Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 10:39 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

When you say that Anna and her boss know the man, does that mean that they know who he is by virtue of his being famous, or have the actually met him personally and talked to him a few times?

Is the man an actor? A musician? Sportsperson? Public Figure? Politician?

When Anna talks to this famous guy,
- does she say anything about her company?
- about her job?
- about her boss?
- about herself (in relation to her job)?
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member
Username: Alhucema

Post Number: 516
Registered: 11-2008
Posted on Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 10:42 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

When you say that Anna and her boss know the man, does that mean that they know who he is by virtue of his being famous,This one or have the actually met him personally and talked to him a few times? No

Is the man an actor? Yes A musician? Sportsperson? Public Figure? Politician?

When Anna talks to this famous guy,
- does she say anything about her company?
- about her job?
- about her boss?
- about herself (in relation to her job)? No to all
Gourami (Gourami)
Moderator
Username: Gourami

Post Number: 411
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 6:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does Anna imply that she knows the actor personally? Does the boss keep her simply because of her connections? Because he suddenly sees her as an advantage to the company? As an advantage to him personally? Does she prove her skills in business by talking to the actor?

Does the actor give her the flower flirtaciously? Out of thanks? Because she asaked for it?
Natanz (Natanz)
New member
Username: Natanz

Post Number: 17
Registered: 8-2009
Posted on Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 6:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the title "thank you, sunshine" relevant?

When Anna returns from the celeb, does her boss ask questions about the celeb?
About the flower?

her boss = head of the company?
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member
Username: Alhucema

Post Number: 520
Registered: 11-2008
Posted on Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 7:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does Anna imply that she knows the actor personally? Not actively Does the boss keep her simply because of her connections? Yes, that is the point Because he suddenly sees her as an advantage to the company? Probably As an advantage to him personally? No Does she prove her skills in business by talking to the actor? No

Does the actor give her the flower flirtaciously? Noish Out of thanks? Very probably so Because she asaked for it? No

Is the title "thank you, sunshine" relevant? Only that it might give a hint who the actor was; however, his identity is not so much relevant for the puzzle as it might work for many other actors

When Anna returns from the celeb, does her boss ask questions about the celeb? Yes
About the flower? No

Very good questions, keep on going!

her boss = head of the company? Irrelevant; however his position is high enough to decide that she can stay with the company
Indianforce (Indianforce)
New member
Username: Indianforce

Post Number: 115
Registered: 4-2009
Posted on Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 8:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Anna and her boss's profession is not relevant, as you said. So even if these guys are tax lawyers, the boss likes subordinates with connections to actors and the like? So much so that he changes his mind about firing her?

Does the boss want the connections for a purpose?

Do they work in advertising?
Gourami (Gourami)
Moderator
Username: Gourami

Post Number: 418
Registered: 10-2008
Posted on Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 9:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So does Anna intentionally get the actor to thank her, so it will appear that she knows him? Does she tell him something about his career? Something about hers? Something about the restaurant? The food? Her boss?
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member
Username: Alhucema

Post Number: 522
Registered: 11-2008
Posted on Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 10:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Anna and her boss's profession is not relevant, as you said. So even if these guys are tax lawyers, the boss likes subordinates with connections to actors and the like? So much so that he changes his mind about firing her? Hahahaha, now you've got me. I have come across a few tax lawyers, and you're right that they are very unlikely to do anything outside the box.

I do not know what type of company Anna worked for, and it is not really relevant for the puzzle. Let us say that Anna's performance with the company was not so bad to get her fired, and that her boss made a somehow irrational decision.

Does the boss want the connections for a purpose? Not really

Do they work in advertising? Possibly but irr.

So does Anna intentionally get the actor to thank her, so it will appear that she knows him? No - she is being sincere all the time Does she tell him something about his career? Something about hers? Something about the restaurant? The food? Her boss? None of the above
Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member
Username: Tobasi

Post Number: 984
Registered: 8-2006
Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 1:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does Anna go to the actor with the intention to get her job back?
Is the actor alone? relevant?
Would this work with an actress?
Do Anna and the actor talk about: something concerning the actor? a film?
Does the boss hear anything of the conversation between Anna and the actor? Does the actor hear anything of the conversation between Anna and the boss?
Does Anna keep quiet about something relevant the actor told her? Does her boss misinterpret the situation and Anna doesn't clarify?
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member
Username: Alhucema

Post Number: 539
Registered: 11-2008
Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 1:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does Anna go to the actor with the intention to get her job back? No
Is the actor alone? Yes relevant? Somehow
Would this work with an actress? No
Do Anna and the actor talk about: something concerning the actor? Yes a film? Yesish
Does the boss hear anything of the conversation between Anna and the actor? No Does the actor hear anything of the conversation between Anna and the boss? Irrelevant
Does Anna keep quiet about something relevant the actor told her? Please clarify, possible FA lurking Does her boss misinterpret the situation and Anna doesn't clarify? Exactly so. Good point
Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member
Username: Tobasi

Post Number: 986
Registered: 8-2006
Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 2:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does Anna say something to the actor in the lines of: I admire your work?
Does the boss assume that Anna and the actor know each other well? that they have a relationship?
Does the boss fear that if he fires Anna this may get attention in the medias?
Does Anna not clarify the situation to her boss because she hopes that she will be able to get her job back?
Does the actor give Anna any relevant information?
Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member
Username: Dropofahat

Post Number: 8
Registered: 8-2009
Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 3:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does Anna present herself to the actor exactly as who she is?
Does she pretend to be: a waitress? Some other employee of the resturant? An actress?

When she speaks to the actor, is she quoting a line from a movie he was in? Is he?

Is the actor aware that what he is saying could be misinterpreted by someone, like the boss?

Is the actor playing along with an acting exercise?

Did the boss previously think she was: a lesbian? An old maid? Antisocial? Unfriendly?
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member
Username: Alhucema

Post Number: 541
Registered: 11-2008
Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 3:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does Anna say something to the actor in the lines of: I admire your work? Yes, and there is a little more to it
Does the boss assume that Anna and the actor know each other well? Yes that they have a relationship? Yes - or rather had than have
Does the boss fear that if he fires Anna this may get attention in the medias? No
Does Anna not clarify the situation to her boss because she hopes that she will be able to get her job back? It is true that she does not clarify it, but that's not the reason
Does the actor give Anna any relevant information? Not really

Does Anna present herself to the actor exactly as who she is? Yes
Does she pretend to be: a waitress? Some other employee of the resturant? An actress? She does not pretend to be anyone else

When she speaks to the actor, is she quoting a line from a movie he was in? No Is he? No

Is the actor aware that what he is saying could be misinterpreted by someone, like the boss? FA

Is the actor playing along with an acting exercise? No

Did the boss previously think she was: a lesbian? No An old maid? No Antisocial? Unfriendly? No for the latter two, but you're OTRT
Natanz (Natanz)
New member
Username: Natanz

Post Number: 23
Registered: 8-2009
Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 4:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

When Anna returns and after her boss asked her the questions, what has changed about the boss:

his opinion on Anna's skill(s)
his opinion on Anna's personality
his feelings towards Anna

Was the reason he would fire Anna because he didn't like her personality? Behavior?
Did he find out something about her past?
Did he find out something bad about her present?

Would Anna still have her job if the actor wasn't famous? If it was a famous celebrity that wasn't an actor?

Did the actor work for a company related to Anna's company?
Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member
Username: Dropofahat

Post Number: 13
Registered: 8-2009
Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 4:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does she say something like "I loved you in {name of a movie the actor was in that is also the name of a place or time}" (like "Philadephia" if it was Tom Hanks) and the boss takes it literally, thinking that she was actually in love with him in the city of Philadelphia?

Is Anna a single mother? If yes, does the boss think that the actor might be the child's father?
If not, does the boss end up thinking she slept with the actor?

Is the boss's original reason for firing her because he thinks she doesn't take enough risks?
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member
Username: Alhucema

Post Number: 548
Registered: 11-2008
Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 5:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

When Anna returns and after her boss asked her the questions, what has changed about the boss:

his opinion on Anna's skill(s) No
his opinion on Anna's personality Yes
his feelings towards Anna Yes

Was the reason he would fire Anna because he didn't like her personality? Basically, yes Behavior? Noish
Did he find out something about her past? Yope
Did he find out something bad about her present? No

Would Anna still have her job if the actor wasn't famous? Probably not If it was a famous celebrity that wasn't an actor? Probably yes

Did the actor work for a company related to Anna's company? No

Does she say something like "I loved you in {name of a movie the actor was in that is also the name of a place or time}" (like "Philadephia" if it was Tom Hanks) and the boss takes it literally, thinking that she was actually in love with him in the city of Philadelphia? Not exactly this, but you are very much OTRT; beware a FA

Is Anna a single mother? NoIf yes, does the boss think that the actor might be the child's father? No
If not, does the boss end up thinking she slept with the actor? Yes

Is the boss's original reason for firing her because he thinks she doesn't take enough risks? No

Very good questions!
Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member
Username: Dropofahat

Post Number: 18
Registered: 8-2009
Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 5:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did Anna and the boss sleep together at some point?

Did the boss want to sleep with her, and was rejected?

Was she accused of sleeping with someone who also works at the company?
Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member
Username: Dropofahat

Post Number: 26
Registered: 8-2009
Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 8:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Just to re-establish - the boss thinks Anna slept with the movie star, and this makes him change his mind about her personality and decide to keep her on?

Does he think he now has a chance to sleep with Anna? He previously thought she was a cold fish? or a virgin?
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member
Username: Alhucema

Post Number: 550
Registered: 11-2008
Posted on Friday, August 14, 2009 - 7:53 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did Anna and the boss sleep together at some point? No

Did the boss want to sleep with her, and was rejected? No

Was she accused of sleeping with someone who also works at the company? No

Just to re-establish - the boss thinks Anna slept with the movie star, and this makes him change his mind about her personality and decide to keep her on? Exactly so. As to this point, you established everything to be established - the boss thinks that if Anna was able to attract a star of this size, there must be something about her he has not noticed and that might be worth giving her another chance. It is not a very rational decision but we have already established he probably wasn't a tax lawyer ;-))

Does he think he now has a chance to sleep with Anna? No He previously thought she was a cold fish? or a virgin? See above

Yet there remains to be established what happened between the actor and Anna, and then between the boss and Anna. Keep in mind that everything Anna said was sincere, she was not lying, she just did not sufficiently clarify everything.
Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member
Username: Tobasi

Post Number: 989
Registered: 8-2006
Posted on Friday, August 14, 2009 - 12:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is any of the following films relevant: Little Miss Sunshine? Eternal sunshine of the spotless mind?
So Anna told the actor that she admired his work but also: that she admired him? that she found him attractive?
The actor gave her the flower as a reaction of something Anna said? a joke? something touching? because he liked her? because he found her attractive?
After she came back the boss posed Anna questions about: the actor? what the actor had said? what Anna had said? Annas personal life? the relationship between her and the actor? the flower? her work? her dismissal?
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member
Username: Alhucema

Post Number: 555
Registered: 11-2008
Posted on Friday, August 14, 2009 - 2:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is any of the following films relevant: Little Miss Sunshine? Eternal sunshine of the spotless mind? Neither; see the text in bold italics below
So Anna told the actor that she admired his work Yesbut also: that she admired him? Yes that she found him attractive? Yesish, there is more to find about this
The actor gave her the flower as a reaction of something Anna said? Yes a joke? No something touching? Might have touched him, yes because he liked her? Noish because he found her attractive? No
After she came back the boss posed Anna questions about: the actor? Yes what the actor had said? No what Anna had said? No Annas personal life? Yesishthe relationship between her and the actor? Yes the flower? No her work? Noher dismissal? No

Although I said the actor's identity is not relevant for the puzzle as such, I think it might be interesting at this point to make a little puzzle-in-the-puzzle lateral bonus and make you guess who the actor was. From now on, I will give away a little hint as to his identity in each my answer. You may join in if you feel like it, but you don't have to. I will tell you in the end, anyway.

In order not to interfere with the main part of the puzzle, I will deal with this in bold italics.

Actually, the title "sunshine" was often used by the actor in one of his pieces of work which made him famous. He was called "sunshine" by someone, and called someone "sunshine" quite often.
Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member
Username: Dropofahat

Post Number: 32
Registered: 8-2009
Posted on Friday, August 14, 2009 - 3:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did she tell him that she fell in love with him in a certain role? that he broke her heart?
Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member
Username: Dropofahat

Post Number: 33
Registered: 8-2009
Posted on Friday, August 14, 2009 - 3:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did she say something like she "spent the night" watching his movies, and ended up crying?
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member
Username: Alhucema

Post Number: 556
Registered: 11-2008
Posted on Friday, August 14, 2009 - 4:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did she tell him that she fell in love with him in a certain role? Yes that he broke her heart? Yes

Did she say something like she "spent the night" watching his movies, Something very much along the line, yes and ended up crying? but not this

Mind that there are two potential "him's" she can be talking to

We have established that she told the actor that she had fallen in love with him in a certain role. The role was in a famous British crime-action television series, filmed in late seventies and early eighties. In this series, the Actor was a member of a special intelligence department, had an inseparable partner, and an older man as their boss.
Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member
Username: Dropofahat

Post Number: 37
Registered: 8-2009
Posted on Friday, August 14, 2009 - 4:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"The Professionals"? Martin Shaw?
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member
Username: Alhucema

Post Number: 559
Registered: 11-2008
Posted on Friday, August 14, 2009 - 4:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"The Professionals"? Martin Shaw? Exactly so.
Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member
Username: Dropofahat

Post Number: 39
Registered: 8-2009
Posted on Friday, August 14, 2009 - 4:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Do I need to know something about the show, or him, to figure out exactly what she said and he said that was misinterpreted by the boss?
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member
Username: Alhucema

Post Number: 560
Registered: 11-2008
Posted on Friday, August 14, 2009 - 5:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Do I need to know something about the show, or him, to figure out exactly what she said and he said that was misinterpreted by the boss?

Not really - as I said, the actor's identity is not essential for the purposes of the puzzle and it could have worked for many other actors. I included it only as an interesting aspect of the puzzle as I heard it as a true story.
Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member
Username: Dropofahat

Post Number: 40
Registered: 8-2009
Posted on Friday, August 14, 2009 - 5:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the boss ask "why did he give you that rose"? Did she answer something like "because he broke my heart"?

Did she have a doll or picture of him with her in bed?
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member
Username: Alhucema

Post Number: 561
Registered: 11-2008
Posted on Friday, August 14, 2009 - 5:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the boss ask "why did he give you that rose"? No; he did ask her a question but not exactly this one; however this might have worked as well. Did she answer something like "because he broke my heart"? Yes, what she answered was something very similar

Did she have a doll or picture of him with her in bed? Irr but very much OTRT
Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member
Username: Dropofahat

Post Number: 41
Registered: 8-2009
Posted on Friday, August 14, 2009 - 6:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So are we trying to figure out the exact phrasing of the two conversations (Anna/Martin, Boss/Anna)?

Did Anna used to kiss his picture, or say goodnight to it?

Did she "outgrow" him?
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member
Username: Alhucema

Post Number: 563
Registered: 11-2008
Posted on Friday, August 14, 2009 - 7:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So are we trying to figure out the exact phrasing of the two conversations (Anna/Martin, Boss/Anna)? Not exactly, but approximately.

Did Anna used to kiss his picture, or say goodnight to it? Very probably. She also used to collect his photographs, watched every episode of The Professionals, wrote a diary with transcripts of his dialogues, and could not sleep at night thinking of him

Did she "outgrow" him? You mean - whether she is not in love with him anymore? If so, let us say that she still likes him very much but is not that head-over-heels feeling as it used to be.
Dropofahat (Dropofahat)
New member
Username: Dropofahat

Post Number: 44
Registered: 8-2009
Posted on Friday, August 14, 2009 - 8:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did she tell Martin that she used to be infatuated with him?

Did the boss ask how she knew him, and she said something like "he was my life for awhile"?


I'm game to keep guessing, but I feel like it's going to be very difficult to even approximate the two conversations. Is there wordplay involved?
Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member
Username: Alhucema

Post Number: 564
Registered: 11-2008
Posted on Friday, August 14, 2009 - 9:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did she tell Martin that she used to be infatuated with him? Yes

Did the boss ask how she knew him, and she said something like "he was my life for awhile"? This is basically the idea, yes


I'm game to keep guessing, but I feel like it's going to be very difficult to even approximate the two conversations. There's no need, you already have it! Is there wordplay involved?


*******SPOILER*************

Anna sits with her boss arguing about her dismissal, while Martin Shaw walks in, is seated at a table nearby, and starts reading a newspaper.

Anna recognizes him immediately, although he is a little bit older than when she, as a teenager, used to watch The Professionals and fell deeply in love with him - or rather with Doyle, the character MS was playing. It was a typical first teenage crush – posters and photographs all over her bed, a diary with dialogue transcripts, nights spent staring at the ceiling and thinking of him...

She hesitates a while, then rises and goes to his table. MS looks up, surprised. Anna mutters something like: „I do apologize, I know that this is not appropriate, I just wanted to tell you I saw you in The Professionals as a kid and I was head over heels in love with you. And, as coincidence brings us together, I would never forgive myself if I didn’t tell you.“

He could have done a lot of things. Sneer at her, ignore her, become angry. Instead, he rises, bows to her slightly, hands her a fresia from the vase on his table, and says with a smile: „It is a pity you know me just from the series. We are playing Shakespeare right now in London, why don’t you come and see us.“

Anna explains she can’t as she is leaving London the same day, and MS makes a „what-a-pity“ gesture.

Anna then goes back to her table to her boss (who couldn’t overhear their conversation but saw their expressions.) The boss is stunned.

„You know him?“ Anna nods. „How... where did you meet him?“ „Well, I... in fact, he was my first big love.“ „You... had an affair with Martin Shaw? asks the boss, his mouth falling open. „Well.... I wouldn’t call it an affair . Just a few sleepless nights.“

The boss is deeply impressed. Anna does not feel like explaining to him the details – she does not think it relevant to what they had been previously discussing and, moreover, how could he understand the platonic love of a girl who is able to fall for a guy from the TV screen and spend many a night crying over him?

At the end of the month. Anna calls to the head office of the company to discuss the details of her dismissal. She is put through to her boss, who says: „As I saw you talking to Mr. Shaw in the restaurant, I must say I was deeply impressed. There must be something about you if a man like him was interested in you. If you want you can stay with our company.“

I read this as a true story and, as I am a Pros fan myself, I wanted to share it. Although I slightly preferred Bodie, it was pleasant to hear that „Doyle“ is such a nice man in real life.

Thank you all for your clever and meticulous work in this puzzle, and chapeau to Dropofahat for the final solution.

Add Your Message Here
Post:
Username: Posting Information:
This is a private posting area. Only registered users and moderators may post messages here.
Password:
Options: Enable HTML code in message
Automatically activate URLs in message
Action: